What was the last classic album you got and weren't knocked out by?

i'm not like hugely crazy about the album but "can you get to that" is top ten songs ever.

― difficult listening hour, Monday, January 17, 2011 11:34 AM (31 minutes ago) Bookmark

^yes.

Tom Waits though. Still haven't managed to get to that.

I don't want to derail the thread (as mentioning this album often does) but I don't see what seperates In the Aeroplane over the Sea from like a dozen other indie/folk/pop/whatever albums. To me it's a solid album with some great tracks ("Holland 1945", "Ghost", and "Untitled") but as a whole I don't get the whole aethestic of acoustic guitar over VERY LOUD SINGING.

dude i know aerosmith is banned but have a heart

i don't get My Bloody Valentine, Neutral Milk Hotel, or Pavement -- basically the 90s indie canon is totally unremarkable to me

Whoa, aerosmith is banned? How come?

The Geffen Records years

self-banned iirc

Ah.

And major lolz at that x-post.

You can add me to the NMH-not-getters tbh. I even like a few other E6 bands, but not them.

is there a 'What happened to ________?' thread?

Count me in the not getting the NMH cult camp too. I mean, both albums are pretty solid (though I think the first one is slightly better), but I don't understand how especially that second record garners all this "OMG Jeff Mangum is a GENIUS and AEROPLANE is the BEST RECORD EVER" gushing.

i'm usually always knocked out by classic records when i hear them

i respect the canon more than anyone i think

xpost in my experience, once you accept the love for Jesus K.Rist it's all gold

and Tom Waits - Rain Dogs ftw imo

PS im Nick Canon too. totally respect the context/history along with the sound and feel like it's a personal challenge to expand my taste if I don't 'get' something that's considered classic. not so much w/ other mediums but def music

what I hate is the moment you admit you don't like an album in the canon to someone who is a huge fan, and they go "wtf? you need to listen to it again!"

thanks, never considered that was the problem all along, not listening to an album I don't like enough.

I like NMH but I am curious as to how Aeroplane took off into this massive cult classic 5+ years after release - I know it was pretty well thought of among US indie fans in the late 90s but they were never even the most known E6 band in my gang of UK indie friends (Olivia Tremor Control and Apples In Stereo got a lot more press over here, by which I mean "still not that much really")

so I was pretty baffled in around 2006 when I was at a festival and they played it over the PA in one of the smaller tents and a big group of people younger than me were making a big show of singing and swaying along, because I had apparently totally missed it becoming canonised while OTC were gently forgotten about

there's shit i totally love that took me, jeez, probably 10 years to like...

i couldn't stand bitches brew by miles when i heard it in college, just didn't get it at all, tons of stuff i love now...actually jazz in general, so glad i have some sorta weird sense of obligation cuz i would have just given up and missed so much beauty

I just don't like it when people take it as a personal challenge to MAKE you like their canonical favorite.
Because if history is any indicator, I'll come around to liking it on my own, eventually. Or not.

yeah that sux

but i guess i always figure -- to a point -- if ppl whose opinions i respect like stuff there must be something to it...even like non-canon stuff like the goons on ilx have made me check out way more no-nyc rap than i ever would have and a lot of it has been great

for sure there's a few like that for me as well, but sometimes an album just won't ever click with me, too. I just dislike that someone won't accept that someone disliking an album is an invalid opinion!

xxpost -- lol dammit

well rap IS a good example of where that has happened for me, 3 years ago I couldn't stand slow southern club rap, but it's more or less because I'd barely heard any of it and hadn't listened real closely.

compared with like the eagles, whom I know I'll never like, regardless of what you put in my baloney sandwich

I didn't like so many of my favorite albums on first listen (Aeroplane included for same reasons, Magnum's whiny nasal yawlp was the worst). by now I figure if something really affects me it's at least worth further exploration.

but everyone's different

Pitchfork put in Aeroplane in the top ten of their Top Albums of the 1990s feature that they compiled in 2003. I have heard that Pitchfork are quite the tastemakers so maybe that had an impact in its seeming canoniztion in the 2000s? Along with Bee Thousand and I See a Darkness, it was one of the three albums in their 1990s top ten that I never really "got".

bee thousand is just awesome catchy garage pop tunes, what's to get?

yeah was gonna say I was like 30 when that album came out and it was immediately taken to by the indiesphere of the day.

oh wait I was 28, how the time flies

Ummm, Night Beat by Sam Cooke.

I LOVE Live at the Harlem Square Club, and I by no means think Night Beat is in any way 'bad' - but aside from the killer guitar playing and "Lost and Lookin,'" this just sounds like a pretty good soul album - not the life changing 40 minutes I was told it would be.

also, Slowdive in general. I like 'em just OK. What's the big deal?

i'm usually always knocked out by classic records when i hear them

i respect the canon more than anyone i think

I'm pretty into the canon too, but the more expanded view--where there's like 100 canonical albums from 1972 and you're not required to love all of them.

bee thousand is just awesome catchy garage pop tunes, what's to get?

I guess it weren't that catchy to me. Chacun à son goût and all that.

Bee Thousand is much easier to grasp as a bunch of catchy mini-songs, than as a work of genius of whatever.

Jeff Buckley's Grace. I still think, to this day, that a large part of the album's success is purely because of the guy's ravishing good looks.

i think jeff buckley had a beautiful voice and people forgive him for having never ever written an interesting song because there was always the potential that he might have done something great eventually just because of his voice. and also maybe he has that martyr's aura surrounding him, though i suppose classic rock types were enthralled even when he was alive so maybe i am wrong.

Grace is amazing. idk hwo one can think he didn't write anything interesting, the songs are gorgeous!

Bonnie Raitt - Give It Up

Live at Leeds.

Yeah, WTF at Jeff Buckley criticism - there are some fantastic self-penned songs on Grace; "Last Goodbye" being a good example. The only reason I could see people hating on it is because of its ostensible "classic-rockness", which is a foregone dismissal as there's quite more to the record than AOR hoariness. And yes, his voice is pretty special.

i feel like woody allen in manhattan, and you are all diane keaton after the trip to the museum, talking about yr academy of the overrated.

oh, bloody Astral Weeks. don't get it.

stevie: isn't that the point?

This thread is just a ruse to isolate those who are not one with the canon and ridicule them...I'm onto it!

Roni Size - New Forms — Don't get it at all.

this is the only jeff buckley song i know. but i don't know his version. i've always liked it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0BThMWI25qg

i figure if he's okay with katatonia he's okay with me.

alf: i'm guessing, but that's still my response. i guess i feel that way about other records too. i just find that whole "can't believe the TASTEMAKERS and HIPSTERS think this is cool lol" undercurrent to, say, kids building a cult around ITAOTS.

i find it tiresome, is what i mean. i am horrifically jetlagged right now.

but tbh i probs feel the same way about radiohead, etc. narcicism of small differences, etc.

Scott - look up Everybody Here Wants You! That's one of my favs of his

i like plenty of 'classic rock' canon fodder - van morrison, the band, bob dylan, scott walker blahdiblah - and have always thought that jeff buckley was the most ghastly rub - pretentious, overwrought, ugly-sounding. his dad ain't all that, either.

i like pretentious music. i'm a big beethoven fan. scott walker is classic rock can fodder?

er, "canon"

Scott 4 is canon, definitely.

Live at Leeds.

― Guayaquil (eephus!), Tuesday, January 18, 2011 12:03 AM (9 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Wow. Hard to see that and Maggot Brain on here, but each to his/her own.