What was the last classic album you got and weren't knocked out by?

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yeah that sux

but i guess i always figure -- to a point -- if ppl whose opinions i respect like stuff there must be something to it...even like non-canon stuff like the goons on ilx have made me check out way more no-nyc rap than i ever would have and a lot of it has been great

dj plain ole m@tt (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 18 January 2011 00:06 (thirteen years ago) link

for sure there's a few like that for me as well, but sometimes an album just won't ever click with me, too. I just dislike that someone won't accept that someone disliking an album is an invalid opinion!

xxpost -- lol dammit

five deadly venoms (San Te), Tuesday, 18 January 2011 00:06 (thirteen years ago) link

well rap IS a good example of where that has happened for me, 3 years ago I couldn't stand slow southern club rap, but it's more or less because I'd barely heard any of it and hadn't listened real closely.

compared with like the eagles, whom I know I'll never like, regardless of what you put in my baloney sandwich

five deadly venoms (San Te), Tuesday, 18 January 2011 00:07 (thirteen years ago) link

I didn't like so many of my favorite albums on first listen (Aeroplane included for same reasons, Magnum's whiny nasal yawlp was the worst). by now I figure if something really affects me it's at least worth further exploration.

but everyone's different

Mangrove Earthshoe (herb albert), Tuesday, 18 January 2011 00:15 (thirteen years ago) link

Pitchfork put in Aeroplane in the top ten of their Top Albums of the 1990s feature that they compiled in 2003. I have heard that Pitchfork are quite the tastemakers so maybe that had an impact in its seeming canoniztion in the 2000s? Along with Bee Thousand and I See a Darkness, it was one of the three albums in their 1990s top ten that I never really "got".

Kaolin Warrior (KMS), Tuesday, 18 January 2011 00:16 (thirteen years ago) link

bee thousand is just awesome catchy garage pop tunes, what's to get?

dj plain ole m@tt (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 18 January 2011 00:24 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah was gonna say I was like 30 when that album came out and it was immediately taken to by the indiesphere of the day.

sleeve, Tuesday, 18 January 2011 00:30 (thirteen years ago) link

oh wait I was 28, how the time flies

sleeve, Tuesday, 18 January 2011 00:30 (thirteen years ago) link

Ummm, Night Beat by Sam Cooke.

I LOVE Live at the Harlem Square Club, and I by no means think Night Beat is in any way 'bad' - but aside from the killer guitar playing and "Lost and Lookin,'" this just sounds like a pretty good soul album - not the life changing 40 minutes I was told it would be.

also, Slowdive in general. I like 'em just OK. What's the big deal?

If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Tuesday, 18 January 2011 00:42 (thirteen years ago) link

i'm usually always knocked out by classic records when i hear them

i respect the canon more than anyone i think

I'm pretty into the canon too, but the more expanded view--where there's like 100 canonical albums from 1972 and you're not required to love all of them.

President Keyes, Tuesday, 18 January 2011 00:43 (thirteen years ago) link

bee thousand is just awesome catchy garage pop tunes, what's to get?

I guess it weren't that catchy to me. Chacun à son goût and all that.

Kaolin Warrior (KMS), Tuesday, 18 January 2011 00:49 (thirteen years ago) link

Bee Thousand is much easier to grasp as a bunch of catchy mini-songs, than as a work of genius of whatever.

President Keyes, Tuesday, 18 January 2011 00:54 (thirteen years ago) link

Jeff Buckley's Grace. I still think, to this day, that a large part of the album's success is purely because of the guy's ravishing good looks.

The previous message has been brought to you by (kelpolaris), Tuesday, 18 January 2011 02:22 (thirteen years ago) link

i think jeff buckley had a beautiful voice and people forgive him for having never ever written an interesting song because there was always the potential that he might have done something great eventually just because of his voice. and also maybe he has that martyr's aura surrounding him, though i suppose classic rock types were enthralled even when he was alive so maybe i am wrong.

keythhtyek, Tuesday, 18 January 2011 03:27 (thirteen years ago) link

Grace is amazing. idk hwo one can think he didn't write anything interesting, the songs are gorgeous!

five deadly venoms (San Te), Tuesday, 18 January 2011 03:31 (thirteen years ago) link

Bonnie Raitt - Give It Up

Gus Van Sotosyn (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 18 January 2011 03:32 (thirteen years ago) link

Live at Leeds.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Tuesday, 18 January 2011 05:03 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah, WTF at Jeff Buckley criticism - there are some fantastic self-penned songs on Grace; "Last Goodbye" being a good example. The only reason I could see people hating on it is because of its ostensible "classic-rockness", which is a foregone dismissal as there's quite more to the record than AOR hoariness. And yes, his voice is pretty special.

Bernard V. O'Hare (dog latin), Tuesday, 18 January 2011 11:53 (thirteen years ago) link

i feel like woody allen in manhattan, and you are all diane keaton after the trip to the museum, talking about yr academy of the overrated.

chev rivera (stevie), Tuesday, 18 January 2011 13:11 (thirteen years ago) link

oh, bloody Astral Weeks. don't get it.

sometimes all it takes is a healthy dose of continental indiepop (tomofthenest), Tuesday, 18 January 2011 13:23 (thirteen years ago) link

stevie: isn't that the point?

Gus Van Sotosyn (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 18 January 2011 13:36 (thirteen years ago) link

This thread is just a ruse to isolate those who are not one with the canon and ridicule them...I'm onto it!

five deadly venoms (San Te), Tuesday, 18 January 2011 13:39 (thirteen years ago) link

Roni Size - New Forms — Don't get it at all.

=(^ • ‿‿ • ^)= (corey), Tuesday, 18 January 2011 13:40 (thirteen years ago) link

this is the only jeff buckley song i know. but i don't know his version. i've always liked it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0BThMWI25qg

scott seward, Tuesday, 18 January 2011 13:40 (thirteen years ago) link

i figure if he's okay with katatonia he's okay with me.

scott seward, Tuesday, 18 January 2011 13:42 (thirteen years ago) link

alf: i'm guessing, but that's still my response. i guess i feel that way about other records too. i just find that whole "can't believe the TASTEMAKERS and HIPSTERS think this is cool lol" undercurrent to, say, kids building a cult around ITAOTS.

chev rivera (stevie), Tuesday, 18 January 2011 13:44 (thirteen years ago) link

i find it tiresome, is what i mean. i am horrifically jetlagged right now.

but tbh i probs feel the same way about radiohead, etc. narcicism of small differences, etc.

chev rivera (stevie), Tuesday, 18 January 2011 13:45 (thirteen years ago) link

Scott - look up Everybody Here Wants You! That's one of my favs of his

five deadly venoms (San Te), Tuesday, 18 January 2011 13:49 (thirteen years ago) link

i like plenty of 'classic rock' canon fodder - van morrison, the band, bob dylan, scott walker blahdiblah - and have always thought that jeff buckley was the most ghastly rub - pretentious, overwrought, ugly-sounding. his dad ain't all that, either.

Ward Fowler, Tuesday, 18 January 2011 14:13 (thirteen years ago) link

i like pretentious music. i'm a big beethoven fan. scott walker is classic rock can fodder?

scott seward, Tuesday, 18 January 2011 14:53 (thirteen years ago) link

er, "canon"

scott seward, Tuesday, 18 January 2011 14:54 (thirteen years ago) link

Scott 4 is canon, definitely.

Bernard V. O'Hare (dog latin), Tuesday, 18 January 2011 14:56 (thirteen years ago) link

Live at Leeds.

― Guayaquil (eephus!), Tuesday, January 18, 2011 12:03 AM (9 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Wow. Hard to see that and Maggot Brain on here, but each to his/her own.

The Curse of Dennis Stratton (Bill Magill), Tuesday, 18 January 2011 14:58 (thirteen years ago) link

maybe in the u.k. or japan, i guess.

x-post

scott seward, Tuesday, 18 January 2011 14:59 (thirteen years ago) link

99.3% of the u.s.a. has never heard a note of scott walker. and only 5% remember the walker brothers. if that.

scott seward, Tuesday, 18 January 2011 15:00 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah scott walker prob isn't v 'rock' tho he is def canonical (maybe esp in britain/europe?) was just kinda reaching for someone good w a big voice and big ideas.

i like pretentious music too, maybe i just don't like the things that jeff buckley is pretending to be, or wanted to be, or was.

x-post!!

Ward Fowler, Tuesday, 18 January 2011 15:00 (thirteen years ago) link

"Wow. Hard to see that and Maggot Brain on here, but each to his/her own."

says the guy who hates led zeppelin.

scott seward, Tuesday, 18 January 2011 15:03 (thirteen years ago) link

wait you are the guy that hates led zep right?

scott seward, Tuesday, 18 January 2011 15:03 (thirteen years ago) link

oh, bloody Astral Weeks. don't get it.

I don't if it hits as immediately hard as some of Van's other albums, but "Madame George", the title track, "Sweet Thing" and "Cyprus Avenue" have a smoldering intensity to them that grows on repeated listens for me.

Kaolin Warrior (KMS), Tuesday, 18 January 2011 15:19 (thirteen years ago) link

i couldn't stand bitches brew by miles when i heard it in college, just didn't get it at all

Yeah, this is such a good example of something that took me some time to grow into. I checked it out from the local library in high school because I'd been reading about how innovative Miles was, and I completely hated it. Just despised it. Came back to it about 8 years later and now I can't imagine living without it. Its one of the few albums that is ALWAYS on my iPod, no matter how much I reshuffle whats on it.

one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 18 January 2011 15:26 (thirteen years ago) link

I've never actually listened to Astral Weeks, but I do like Sweet Thing (only know it from Best Of)

a fucking stove just fell on my foot. (Colonel Poo), Tuesday, 18 January 2011 15:28 (thirteen years ago) link

I've listened to that album (AW) 20 times, and I couldn't tell you which of those songs are which.

All I hear is "BRAAA- LA LAA LAAA LA". I mean, it's beautiful in its own way, but that's it.

Pleasant Plains, Tuesday, 18 January 2011 15:30 (thirteen years ago) link

You better not be a Scott Walker fan, then...

Kaolin Warrior (KMS), Tuesday, 18 January 2011 15:43 (thirteen years ago) link

Who's he?

Pleasant Plains, Tuesday, 18 January 2011 15:45 (thirteen years ago) link

:-D

Pleasant Plains, Tuesday, 18 January 2011 15:45 (thirteen years ago) link

He's this lounge singer from Las Vegas who went to England and got crazy famous.

Kaolin Warrior (KMS), Tuesday, 18 January 2011 15:51 (thirteen years ago) link

Then forgot to go home, and now punches beef.

Mark G, Tuesday, 18 January 2011 15:58 (thirteen years ago) link

"pretentious" implies undeserved — i wouldn't say that about scott walker

=(^ • ‿‿ • ^)= (corey), Tuesday, 18 January 2011 16:10 (thirteen years ago) link

Black Monk Time

busytits (rip van wanko), Tuesday, 18 January 2011 16:15 (thirteen years ago) link

the thing that irritates me about jeff buckley is that his dad is 10X more amazing and no one really rates him

dj plain ole m@tt (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 18 January 2011 16:16 (thirteen years ago) link


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