forget about the part where he referred to you
― fruit of the goon (k3vin k.), Thursday, 20 January 2011 03:03 (thirteen years ago) link
lol okay i get it now- tim f otm as per usual
― ilxor, Thursday, 20 January 2011 03:08 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah apologies ilxor for misrepresenting you. Of course these kinds of discussions will always founder on specific examples if it comes down to who liked what when (one would think for obvious reasons, but my constant surprise doesn't change the fact that the ilx modus operandi is for people to make sweeping assessments like "oh this album is like blah" and then ark up if any other person's explanation doesn't capture their own experience exactly).
my point was more trying to explain the relationship between the narrative of the-dream that underpins your assessment and the narrative that underpins mine - it's not just about liking "yamaha" versus liking "purple kisses" (esp. since most days "yamaha" is my favourite tune on LK) but rather goes to yr entire notion of what "overdone" versus "underdone" means in the context of the-dream's work.
― Tim F, Thursday, 20 January 2011 03:28 (thirteen years ago) link
kind of feel like nitpicking the differences between these albums is a little like trying to explain how the first 3 Ramones albums are so so different from each other or something
― some dude, Thursday, 20 January 2011 03:32 (thirteen years ago) link
in general, yeah, but I suspect the differences feel more meaningful for anyone who would name one of these albums their favourite album of x year etc, as a lot of people in this thread would.
If you've never thought of the-dream as rising above a solid 7 or 8 out of 10, then, sure, it'd be a pretty pointless conversation.
― Tim F, Thursday, 20 January 2011 03:37 (thirteen years ago) link
right
anyway i feel like love king is sort of a (lamer) update on love vs money more than either really builds on love/hate
― fruit of the goon (k3vin k.), Thursday, 20 January 2011 03:39 (thirteen years ago) link
got me dead to rights there
― some dude, Thursday, 20 January 2011 03:40 (thirteen years ago) link
ha dude what tim said isn't like an idictment of you or anything; you obv acknowledge that our terristannery is sort of outta control
― fruit of the goon (k3vin k.), Thursday, 20 January 2011 03:42 (thirteen years ago) link
indictment*
i wasn't being sarcastic or sassy or anything, i understand and agree. like i could nitpick minute details between Superchunk albums or something because i like some of them more than any The-Dream album.
― some dude, Thursday, 20 January 2011 03:46 (thirteen years ago) link
chorus of "She Needs My Love" is so massive
― jho'sh? "ice cr?m" jackson (The Reverend), Thursday, 19 May 2011 09:35 (twelve years ago) link
i have made this point before, apparently
― jho'sh? "ice cr?m" jackson (The Reverend), Thursday, 19 May 2011 09:41 (twelve years ago) link
fast car/ nikki, highlight of the-dreams career thus far
― prego, Tuesday, 13 September 2011 20:11 (twelve years ago) link
wait til you get to purple kisses and luv songs
― stalk me shithead (from the makers of tickle me elmo) (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 13 September 2011 20:19 (twelve years ago) link
It's grown on me a bit, but I always thought "Fast Car" was kind of silly and out of place on Love/Hate. It still doesn't seem as fleshed out as his subsequent Prince homages to me.
― Evan R, Tuesday, 13 September 2011 20:26 (twelve years ago) link
it's certainly the barest, which is why i probably love it most
― stalk me shithead (from the makers of tickle me elmo) (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 13 September 2011 20:27 (twelve years ago) link
Never got the overwhelming love for Fast Car. Vastly prefer Nikki (pretty sure i voted for it in this poll)
― Number None, Tuesday, 13 September 2011 20:28 (twelve years ago) link
'playin' in her hair' followed by 'purple kisses' is his pinnacle
― prolego, Tuesday, 13 September 2011 21:23 (twelve years ago) link
voted "nikki" but i sort of hate alex for pointing out what a bad line "springtime, summertime, falltime, winter" is in one of these threads. now it bothers me every time.
― horseshoe, Monday, September 7, 2009 2:02 PM (2 years ago) Bookmark
― horseshoe, Tuesday, 13 September 2011 21:25 (twelve years ago) link
I like that line! There's a beautiful asymmetry to it, the way it sets up a pattern of two-syllable seasons then stops cold with this abrupt dead-end. It perfectly parallels the relationship he's describing.
― Evan R, Tuesday, 13 September 2011 21:45 (twelve years ago) link
i think 'fast car' is a way better prince homage than 'yamaha', which is way overrated imo
― prego, Tuesday, 13 September 2011 21:47 (twelve years ago) link
yeah i dont think its a bad line either
― prego, Tuesday, 13 September 2011 21:48 (twelve years ago) link
and schoolin' life is better than both xp
― prolego, Tuesday, 13 September 2011 21:48 (twelve years ago) link
no it's not
getting the two of you mixed up
― stalk me shithead (from the makers of tickle me elmo) (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 13 September 2011 22:01 (twelve years ago) link
it really isnt, both dream songs are way better
― prego, Tuesday, 13 September 2011 22:04 (twelve years ago) link
lol we always seem to post right after each other aswell
― prego, Tuesday, 13 September 2011 22:05 (twelve years ago) link
I hadn't even realized you were different posters til now.
― The Reverend, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 01:27 (twelve years ago) link
where's "ol"
― some dude, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 01:30 (twelve years ago) link
― prolego, Tuesday, September 13, 2011 5:23 PM (4 hours ago) Bookmark
i could buy this
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 14 September 2011 01:33 (twelve years ago) link
purple kissesfast carshe needs my loveluv songsfalsettoshawty is da shit!playin in her hairmamalivin a lienikkiI luv your girlditch that...
― k3vin k., Saturday, November 14, 2009 7:27 PM (seven years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
besides the first two and the last one, that's a reallll fluid ranking
― k3vin k., Saturday, November 14, 2009 7:28 PM (seven years ago)
i think i stand by this
― k3vin k., Saturday, 14 January 2017 23:58 (seven years ago) link
― k3vin k., Saturday, November 14, 2009 7:27 PM (3 months ago)
bump "she needs my love" down a couple, slide "shawty is the shit" above "falsetto". theyre all so close besides "ditch that..." tho for me
ha xp
― vag gangsta (k3vin k.), Thursday, February 18, 2010 11:05 PM (six years ago
actually this
― k3vin k., Sunday, 15 January 2017 00:00 (seven years ago) link
not sure if i've listened to this album this decade
― r|t|c, Sunday, 15 January 2017 00:15 (seven years ago) link
hey it's been 5 years cut me a little slack
― k3vin k., Sunday, 15 January 2017 00:16 (seven years ago) link
this opinion holds up
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 15 January 2017 00:22 (seven years ago) link
tbh i considered doing so recently after seeing the dance troupe that deej recently posted on rolling raps did a routine to 'i luv your girl'... but then i looked at it and i could still play all the songs in my head just fine
― r|t|c, Sunday, 15 January 2017 00:23 (seven years ago) link
'livin a lie' is sounding great in my head right now. alfred always was right on that one
― r|t|c, Sunday, 15 January 2017 00:25 (seven years ago) link
Livin a Lie seems poignant now, like remember when r&b playing with housey beats seemed fun?
― Tim F, Sunday, 15 January 2017 00:55 (seven years ago) link
This may seem like heresy, but I could never get into this one. Probably because I heard the second LP first, and then when I came back to LP 1 it just seemed a bit too flat and not quite self-aware enough.
― Crazy Eddie & Jesus the Kid (Raymond Cummings), Sunday, 15 January 2017 04:21 (seven years ago) link
i always felt like that too, like i can't not be thinking 'i cd be listenin to love vs money'. i love fast car tho
― schlump, Sunday, 15 January 2017 04:57 (seven years ago) link
that is wrong, just fyi
― horseshoe, Sunday, 15 January 2017 13:32 (seven years ago) link
― r|t|c, Saturday, January 14, 2017 7:25 PM (
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― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 15 January 2017 13:37 (seven years ago) link
i luv your girl shd be #1 i now think
― johnny crunch, Sunday, 15 January 2017 14:08 (seven years ago) link
falsetto is also just a perfect song
― johnny crunch, Sunday, 15 January 2017 16:48 (seven years ago) link
xpost "and I pray that y'all ain't serious/cos seriously, she's on my dick" still a good zing
― Neanderthal, Sunday, 15 January 2017 20:02 (seven years ago) link
ty also sry horseshoe, i kno. when i was younger i didn't like tomatoes + i knew that was wrong also
― schlump, Sunday, 15 January 2017 20:19 (seven years ago) link