lil b (the based god)

Possibly, I was never into them.

I have a lot to say on this subject. Remind me when I'm on an actual computer

what a surprise lol

i supposed intersection of backpack rap & hipsters in the early 00s is like, this topic should be whiney's Ulysses

hahaha

haaa

:)

Anyone want to book him in the UK?

"Hello! We have just 1 date left now for the upcoming Lil B tour and that date is Thursday 10th March - please get in touch a.s.a.p to discuss booking a show, there's a LOT of excitement growing about these dates, probably the last of its kind before Lil B becomes huge, so don't miss out!

Contact Lee at NO-FI - nofil✧✧✧@gm✧✧✧.c✧✧

Lil B plays Kraak festival on March 5 and is then available in the UK for the following period:

March 9 GLASGOW
March 10 available
March 11 LONDON
March 12 MANCHESTER tbc"

Link for the email...

http://us1.campaign-archive1.com/?u=9cc4b85f7cac0b4ec69dd80a8&id=83061c91ed

can't go on the 11th so almost tempted to book him myself

basedgod is playing at my house

i still have my The Realness/True Meaning double cd

even after reading everything noz has written about lil b, this is still a great ass piece

http://www.npr.org/blogs/therecord/2011/01/27/133245953/lil-b-understanding-raps-new-rebel

plz forgive, what does backpacker mean?

it was a popular style to carry a backpack in the 90s and became associated with indie/underground/conscious/musically-traditionalist rap fans

it's kind of mega-outdated as a term so presume it's kind of tongue in cheek or symbolic when u see it

('conscious' meaning 'socially conscious')

right that's kind of what I thought, I'm not really sure what it refers to though...

that nos piece is gonna be immortal

d.a.m. huh?

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I'm curious what type of stuff wz indie/underground/conscious/musically-traditionalist? Is that stuff like Atmosphere?

well the / are either/or / it's a broad paintbrush, but yeah atmosphere and stuff that wld be acceptable as "real hip hop" or "true school", like that cld be street shit over dj premier beats in theory

but also def jux and "experimental" prog rap i guess?

when i think early backpacker i think of ish like fondle em, fat beats, & west coast stuff like hiero

& rawkus

that noz piece is really great!

right that's kind of what I thought, I'm not really sure what it refers to though...

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Most obvious examples are Talib and Mos Def. When Kanye first came out he was "the first nigga with a benz and a backpack" mainly because he was uncomfortable with being associated with drug dealing rap like Beanie Sigel and over Roc A Fella artists but still indulged in his wealth. It's just kind of a term for artists who made a conscious choice not to be gangsta rappers basically (different to rappers who just weren't gangsta). A lot of that Rawkus and Fondle 'Em style came about while Life After Death was this big gluttonous records of violence and money and the artist being murdered. Then over time it kind of evolved into dull 'omg everything needs to sound like '93 tribe' records like Little Brother and yeah all that Atmosphere and stuff. IMO stuff like Edan, Def Jux's more famous records and that Madlib/Dilla/Stones Throw/Lex type stuff isn't backpack mainly because they fit into the catagory of "rappers who just happen to not be gangsta rappers" instead of "rappers getting butthurt about gangsta rap" which is what backpack rap turn into over the past decade.

"rappers getting butthurt about gangsta rap [and changing styles, changing times and moving away from NY dominance]"*

ur kinda divorcing the acts from their audiences there but w/e it's a boring subject let's move on with me having the final word

tbrr i think you can. edan fans (people who liked inventive hip-hop, didn't care about these things) were not the same as def jux fans (lj types i guess?) who weren't the same as little brother fans (people who spend an hour a day arguing with people on youtube sections that soulja boy and lil wayne isn't real hip-hop, this random record by Hurricane G they've clicked on from the side bar is and that kids today suck and just listen to noise."

foiled again drat

fucking A i am really old if there are people here who don't know what "backpacker" means
next you'll say you never took ecstasy and jumped around all night with glowsticks

have never known where to get pills and glowsticks tbh

spencers gifts and behind the spencers gifts iirc

a word wrt to atmosphere and the whole mpls scene.

i guess atmosphere has long passed into strawman territory on ILX, so i won't try to change ppl's opinions (tho i do think they've made some great music over the years, though the later stuff doesn't do much for me)

but anyway, i guess it kinda bums me out that they have become synonymous with this sorta "upper class college kid" thing when -- as i play with dudes that came up alongside atmosphere and part of the same scene -- the dudes themselves aren't that at all. pretty much all of the mpls dudes that i know of or have met or whatever were generally north and south minneapolis lower and working class kids...a lot of them raising in not great circumstance, like ant from atmosphere is a native american from south mpls and in general that community has it VERY hard.

basically dudes my age that came up as the first generation of ppl that grew up liking rap....and they liked gangster shit and all that coming up, like mike who i play with was talking with brother ali on twitter a while back about some old storytelling joint he had found on cassette where him and ali were doing a bunch of ill stuff at a school dance and then pulled all these bitches and stuff...

i also think -- while dudes were gangsters or anything -- there was a hell of a lot more street life around the periphery of the mpls scene in the early days than you'd expect, not to get into specifics but it's true

i think the mpls scene basically came from the fact that mpls was always a huge indie rock town so those guys couldn't help but get exposed to that stuff and they basically just wanted to represent how things were in minneapolis, like they basically embraced living in 1 bedroom apts in uptown and tried to kinda make the underdog thing their calling card, like we don't have money we don't pull bitches, we're just dudes trying to make music and live...

obv atmosphere blew up way beyond what anyone could have expected and it changed things in ways they couldn't anticipate...but largely i think they were just trying to make the music they wanted to make and always considered themselves part of hip hop...even now Freeway is bros with all those guys obv

the other missing link is the midwest battle scene which was pretty big back then, dudes like eyedea....one dude told me that Eminem basically started to rap more about his childhood and mother stuff after battling slug and hearing some of the stuff atmosphere was doing, which seems illogical now, but Em being a freestyler from detroit and the same age they would have crossed paths a lot.

also: keep in mind that -- at the time all this was starting -- being a rapper from minneapolis was kinda of ridiculous, they literally felt like they had ZERO chance of every making an impact on anyone except the local scene....

^^ cool post

otm

yeah cool post. but even so, and no matter how much it bums you out, you must totally be able to understand how that scene took the college kid indie boy market by storm?

yeah i mean they are super popular, and it's all different now. those guys went out and toured and made their own audience, i think that was one thing that they learned from the punk/indie scene in mpls is they approached it like a rock band, the work of touring, etc

so they got popular with a bunch of ppl that are considered lame and stuff so i think it distorts the perspective of where they really fit in with hip hop.

(and i'm really of the opinion that atmosphere in partic hasn't done anything really great for quite some time)

anyway just thought it might be interesting for peeps to have some perspective on one of the great goon strawmen idk ymmv etc

they seem like chill dudes and i have the odd 12" with slug or whoever on it doing their thing which makes me feel bad for just not liking their music

also "slug" is like the worst rapper name

i feel bad for Beyond, he was in the group at first, then just disappeared.

but yeah they weren't really that far from tons of fondle 'em rawkus stuff, they weren't even really emo at first, this one features beyond:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dyfq3orZRPw

he changed his name to Musab later, had a great song called "actin' rich" i can't find on youtube

still doin stuff i guess i think he moved to las vegas tho

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghbNrM8LBf4

this is one of the old school headshots mixtapes (which kinda put rhymesayers on the map)...it had casual and saafir on it too

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pf50Hn8P3QM&feature=related

also obv Life Sucks Die mag was huge in mpls hip hop

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=URJ-5drmCZQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=URJ-5drmCZQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=URJ-5drmCZQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=URJ-5drmCZQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=URJ-5drmCZQ

LOL

guy at the drop at 0:30 is so classic