On my copy, which Myonga sent me the Christmas before last, "Sock It to Me Santa" and "Ballad of the Yellow Berets" are tracks 6 and 7. The track order is otherwise the same as the one sleeve posted upthread.
I don't want to screw with Myonga's original tracklisting too badly, and endorse it over all others, but the version I made for myself has "Ballad of the Yellow Berets" and "Noah" out, with "UMC" coming before "Cross of Gold," and the whole thing ending with "20 Years From Now," which I love and prefer as a closer to this comp. But since this is—and correct me if I'm wrong—a more or less strict listing of Seger's singles in chronological order, that doesn't make much sense. And Myonga is the originator of this whole thing, so I defer judgment to his tracklisting. I also would love to see "Need Ya" in there, but it might have to be excised due to running time.
― talrose, Tuesday, 8 February 2011 22:16 (thirteen years ago) link
Feel free to mess with the tracklisting! I did so myself after sending the first few copies out (moved "Yellow Berets" to the end, just for m@tt!), and again after uploading it for the second or third time. And the version I play at home is different as well - I excised "Get Out Of Denver", which I've never really been crazy about.
― ilxor gets into jazz (Myonga Vön Bontee), Tuesday, 8 February 2011 22:50 (thirteen years ago) link
i realize i sounded ungrateful by talking bad about yellow berets...that's the only song i don't like or love...overall this is fucking great, so thanks again sir :)
― pajamagram sam (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 8 February 2011 22:55 (thirteen years ago) link
"Yellow Berets" fascinates me in a way...is this the first song to use the term "gay" as homosexual? First one I know of anyways...
― ilxor gets into jazz (Myonga Vön Bontee), Wednesday, 9 February 2011 01:49 (thirteen years ago) link
Yeah. I really like it just as a flip side to the protest songs of the time...historically, at least to me, its pretty intriguing
― VegemiteGrrl, Wednesday, 9 February 2011 01:52 (thirteen years ago) link
if this were a CD comp it'd best be a hidden bonus track. you can't really do without it, but you don't want it front and center, you know what i mean? best to begin with 'east side story'.
― by another name (amateurist), Wednesday, 9 February 2011 03:48 (thirteen years ago) link
incidentally "my" version of the CD comp is as follows
1. east side story2. sock it to me santa3. florida time4. persecution smith5. heavy music pt. 16. 2 + 2 = ?7. ramblin' gamblin' man8. ivory9. noah10. lucifer11. highway child12. teachin' blues13. lookin' back14. bo diddley/who do you love15. midnight rider16. so i wrote you a song17. rosalie18. turn the page19. back in '7220. 20 years from now21. long song comin'22. u.m.c. (upper middle class) -- i don't actually like this one much, but i didn't think i could fairly leave it out23. get out of dener[24. the ballad of the yellow beret]
btw that beautiful morning lp or whatever the acoustic one is called is HORRIBLE.
― by another name (amateurist), Wednesday, 9 February 2011 03:51 (thirteen years ago) link
Just got this and dug it. Thanks, Myonga!
― dr. phil, Wednesday, 9 February 2011 21:20 (thirteen years ago) link
I found lossless (flac) versions of all of Seger's early albums. It's amazing how they remain out of print. The versions sound really good -- I can't tell if they were ripped from vinyl or not. I like 'em in this order:
1970 Mongrel1973 Back In '721974 Seven1968 Ramblin' Gamblin' Man1975 Beautiful Loser1972 Smokin' O.P.'s1969 Noah1971 Brand New Morning
― Fastnbulbous, Thursday, 10 February 2011 17:41 (thirteen years ago) link
Did you find them on a blog or via torrent? If on a blog, please share!
― EZ Snappin, Thursday, 10 February 2011 17:52 (thirteen years ago) link
uh yeah, share please.
though brand new morning would suck in any format.
― by another name (amateurist), Thursday, 10 February 2011 18:52 (thirteen years ago) link
btw i think beautiful loser and smokin OPs are still in print.
Not blog nor torrent. I still use s...k.
― Fastnbulbous, Thursday, 10 February 2011 18:59 (thirteen years ago) link
smokin' o.p.'s is p easy to find on vinyl...so is ramblni' gamblin, hardly ever see mongrel which i want now
― pajamagram sam (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 10 February 2011 19:01 (thirteen years ago) link
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/SEALED-Bob-Seger-System-Mongrel-LP-NICE-COPY-/220737471795?pt=Music_on_Vinyl&hash=item3364fa8533#ht_587wt_1141
― just sayin, Thursday, 10 February 2011 19:46 (thirteen years ago) link
I love Mongrel, was excited to find a used copy of that, don't see it often.
― Mark, Thursday, 10 February 2011 23:05 (thirteen years ago) link
early seger bootleg: http://www.guitars101.com/forums/f90/bob-seger-system-1970-a-110160.html
― tylerw, Monday, 7 March 2011 19:59 (thirteen years ago) link
effin' awesome!!! ty tylerw
― KC & the sunshine banned (outdoor_miner), Tuesday, 8 March 2011 01:22 (thirteen years ago) link
Seger says he's retiring, passing on the torch to the young'uns:
"I've been blessed. But it's time to go away and let the younger people take over, the Eminems and Kid Rocks of the world."
http://www.freep.com/article/20110323/ENT04/103240430/1318/SPORTS02/Will-Bob-Seger-retire-after-tour-He-contemplates-going-out-top?odyssey=mod|lateststories
― brio, Thursday, 24 March 2011 17:56 (thirteen years ago) link
I advise Bob to close his final show with a 45-minute long version of 2+2=??, followed by a scorching Ramblin Gamblin Man/Lucifer/Night Moves medley.
― brio, Thursday, 24 March 2011 18:00 (thirteen years ago) link
...in a caveman vest
― Trip Maker, Thursday, 24 March 2011 18:02 (thirteen years ago) link
wearing a necklace made of the shrunken skulls of berry gordy, ron asheton, rob tyner and sonic smith
― brio, Thursday, 24 March 2011 18:07 (thirteen years ago) link
Actually, Kid Rock is already older than Al Kaline was when he retired (if the age in that article is right.) And Eminem turns 40 next year, so he's Kaline's retirement age now. I still love how, outside of Sinatra, Seger's reference points in that article are all Detroit guys.
― xhuxk, Thursday, 24 March 2011 18:10 (thirteen years ago) link
I just got this book in the Borders clearance:
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51EvsZ%2By2jL._SL500_AA300_.jpg
It's pretty neat. Lots of pix & stories from the early days. Makes you wish there were a set of shiny reissues to go with it.
― Handjobs for a sport (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 13 May 2011 00:24 (twelve years ago) link
note to self: go to Borders
― VegemiteGrrl, Friday, 13 May 2011 01:37 (twelve years ago) link
I thought this would have been revived to post this, v. nice piece on the early stuff the Never Mind the Bullets:
http://www.chicagoreader.com/chicago/bob-seeger-bootleg-compilation/Content?oid=3770583
― Mark, Friday, 13 May 2011 03:27 (twelve years ago) link
awesome piece. does he post here? probably under some name like flopsy topsy or something. i'd never know who he was.
― scott seward, Friday, 13 May 2011 03:37 (twelve years ago) link
T@l's a terrific guy and a good writer. Another former Stylus alum.
― ginny thomas and tonic (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 13 May 2011 13:03 (twelve years ago) link
haaaa, that's awesome. tal had gotten in touch with me about the photo, and we were able to solve the mystery. hilarious that the pic is DURING bob's set! just takin' a break.
― tylerw, Friday, 13 May 2011 14:43 (twelve years ago) link
cranking this now. it really is great!
― tylerw, Friday, 13 May 2011 15:47 (twelve years ago) link
Great article, thanks for linking it, Mark! (And, obviously for WRITING it, if you're there, Talrose!)
I saw that Seger appeared in the most recent Rolling Stone, and had mad unrealistic hopes that either Bob or the writer would have been aware of Bullets and made mention of it, but no dice. Too bad - I would've bought five copies for my mother!
― a "goaty"-style beard (Myonga Vön Bontee), Sunday, 15 May 2011 05:43 (twelve years ago) link
dudes can we still has this comp file i would like to hear
― 7+ minute (jdchurchill), Monday, 16 May 2011 02:22 (twelve years ago) link
so now i know where kid koala got the riff for the opening track, 100% on his recent rock-n-roll based cut-n-paste mixtape the slew album.
[spoiler : tis a lift from the main riff from down home]
this a f*cking great compilation
― mark e, Monday, 16 May 2011 13:37 (twelve years ago) link
still available?
― curmudgeon, Monday, 16 May 2011 13:40 (twelve years ago) link
i can zip up what i got a while back, and repost if thats not breaking any rules ?
[nb : its over 100Mb so YSI aint good. other options ? ]
― mark e, Monday, 16 May 2011 13:49 (twelve years ago) link
this link still works...tags all cleaned up too: http://doomandgloomfromthetomb.tumblr.com/post/5450595340/never-mind-the-bullets-bob-seger-1966-1974-i
― tylerw, Monday, 16 May 2011 14:12 (twelve years ago) link
I was rocking Mongrel this weekend. People give me miles of shit when I say I like Seger. Fuckin tired of it.
― Trip Maker, Monday, 16 May 2011 14:17 (twelve years ago) link
meet different people
― mark e, Monday, 16 May 2011 14:19 (twelve years ago) link
Met enough people tbh
― Trip Maker, Monday, 16 May 2011 14:22 (twelve years ago) link
srsly if seger let someone like light in the attic release this comp (or something similar), dude would have instant cred with a lot of people who have written him off.
― tylerw, Monday, 16 May 2011 14:43 (twelve years ago) link
Thanks to Myonga for putting this together. I DL'ed it awhile back and love the hell out of it. Get outta Denver, baby!
― International Waters, Monday, 16 May 2011 14:47 (twelve years ago) link
^^^ surely someone here has connections with LITA to push this excellent suggestion through ?
[i agree, if they can sort out a reissue by a bloke who pressed up a handful of copies of his debut lp then got abducted by aliens, then they should be able to get this one on the shelf]
however, from this thread and other places, it seems that the block on such a thing happening is bob himself who is in denial as to the excellence of his earlier material.
― mark e, Monday, 16 May 2011 14:49 (twelve years ago) link
ok. who here wrote the letter to mojo re bob getting some love from the magazine ?
― mark e, Thursday, 7 July 2011 09:51 (twelve years ago) link
lol i tweeted at light in the attic about this today, got this response: "That's awesome! Pretty sure those vaults are locked up damn tight..." wheels (not) in motion!
― tylerw, Thursday, 7 July 2011 17:47 (twelve years ago) link
― mark e, Monday, May 16, 2011 9:49 AM (1 month ago) Bookmark
i've also heard that he just has bad feelings from the many labels that ripped him off early in his career (no royalties and suchlike) and doesn't want to delve into the legal complications sorting out rights might entail. it may have nothing to do with his assessment of the early singles' quality. that said, this doesn't explain why mongrel and other such albums are out of print as well (even though he allowed CD reissues of these once upon a time).
― by another name (amateurist), Thursday, 7 July 2011 23:12 (twelve years ago) link
But what legal issues would there be now? The biggest issue is that all his early Hideout singles were snapped up by Cameo-Parkway, and are now owned by Abkco. They let a few of the songs out on the Cameo box, and even licensed "Sock It To Me, Santa!" out to Little Steven for an Underground Garage X-mas album. Seger's first albums were on Capitol, whom he would return to in 75 and remain. He and Punch Andrews formed Palladium Records in '72, which released his next three albums. They were distributed by Reprise. I have heard WEA has been a stumbling block, but OTOH Capitol has officially reissued the first Palladium set (Smokin OP'S) and material from the last one (Seven) popped up on that Early Seger album.
I wonder how the folks at Capitol feel about this. One of their major artists--whose catalogue has been quite lucrative over the years--is sitting on 6 albums of material barely exploited in the digital realm. Given the proper attention, a reissue campaign of this stuff is about as close as you can get to a license to print money in these waning days of the industry.
And that's not counting the unreleased stuff. There was a piece on Seger's tour recently in Rolling Stone, and he mentioned that he'd been digging in his vault, finding numerous qualitiy unissued or incomplete tracks that he planned to tinker with (ala Springsteen's The Promise or the Stones new Exile... songs) and put on his upcoming album.
― Mucho! Macho! Honcho!: Turn Off The Dark (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 7 July 2011 23:41 (twelve years ago) link
Capitols catalogue is currently owned by EMI isn't it ? if so then there is a good chance that one of Cherry Reds reissue labels will have a chance to get those albums out as they seem to be scouring the Capitol/EMI archives for all sorts of decent stuff at the moment and releasing them via their multitude of sub-labels.It seems that EMI have moved away from reissuing albums themselves, but give permission to others to do the hard work.(isn't this the lucrative part of the current EMI business model ?)
― mark e, Friday, 8 July 2011 08:29 (twelve years ago) link
i'm sure that if seger were so inclined he could get any legal roadblocks removed -- dude is pretty wealthy, i assume. so i don't know, maybe a groundswell of interest would lead him to think it wouldn't be a terrible idea. i mean, if mojo magazine suddenly calls out for their release he might pay attention?
― tylerw, Friday, 8 July 2011 15:10 (twelve years ago) link
I was thinking something more along the lines of the Beatles reissue series (which EMI--or I guess Apple--oversaw).
BTW, ICYDK Live Bullet & Nine Tonight are getting remastered, expanded & (in the case of the latter I assume) restored in August. Amazon's also hawking "Exclusive Remasters" of The Distance, Like A Rock & The Fire Inside.
― Mucho! Macho! Honcho!: Turn Off The Dark (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 8 July 2011 18:46 (twelve years ago) link
I remember looking forward to Live Bullet and being disappointed when I finally had it in my mitts. Started good with "Nutbush" and then only above average rock with a couple more great moments and too much stuff like "Jody Girl" -- ick.
― Gorge, Friday, 8 July 2011 22:08 (twelve years ago) link