scientology & celebrities

Waiiit this is what Mormons say about their church! How many religions used alleged exponential functions as a sales point?

Temple of Underrated Aerosmith has 3x more chill vibes & good times than all other religions iirc

Brought back by Catholic bones, I see. Welcome.

no I came back to find out how Tuomas feels about suggest ban but now they've locked the thread so I'm feeling kind of adrift, can't live like this tbqf

lol hope you find harbor

I had to stop reading this mid-article to do some other reading up, after that throwaway sentence about Miscavige's wife not having been seen in two years.

Temple of Underrated Aerosmith

would join this church

not sure how reliable this is, but interesting nonetheless:

http://leavingscientology.wordpress.com/2009/09/29/david-miscavige-“the-adulterer”/

I link on that page leads to this:

She lamented how he would sometimes walk around mumbling, then periodically shouting, “Shelly, where is the gold buried?” She swore she had no idea what gold DM was referring to.

I had to stop reading this mid-article to do some other reading up, after that throwaway sentence about Miscavige's wife not having been seen in two years.

Yeah that's the bit I really wonder about.

If you really want to dig around, you'll find conspiracy theories that she's the natural mother of Tom Cruise and Nicole Kidman's adopted daughter.

missed ya underrated aerosmith

Of all of the media on this page:

http://www.xenu.net/archive/multimedia.html

This was always my favorite:

http://www.xenu.net/archive/media_vault/Helatrob.mp3

Or this one, where LRH predicts the coming of Mad Men:

http://www.xenu.net/archive/media_vault/Nochrist.mp3

This is full of interesting stuff, including an apparent quote from Hubbard: "When buildings get important to us, for God’s sake, some of you born revolutionists, will you please blow up central headquarters.”

so what will the church do now? maybe i overestimate the importance of the new yorker as opposed to the st. pete times, but this seems like kind of a big deal?

i guess standard procedure is to sue the shit out of conde nast, but between the new yorker's fact checkers and conde's lawyers no doubt having already picked it apart, that seems only slightly more feasible than dan snyder's lawsuit . . .

Well the FBI is already investigating so...

It doesn't say the FBI is actively investigating, does it? Just that the investigation is still open. Maybe that's splitting hairs. But I imagine there are hundreds of "open" investigations the FBI hasn't bothered with in years. Can't imagine this particular pile of crazy-pants is a priority.

Skimmed this thread (and I forgot I gave that St. Petersburgh Times piece upthread -- good reading, but did anyone link to the RollingStone article that came out about five years ago? One of my favorite RS articles ever (I'm sure it's old news to most, but maybe not to all):

http://www.rollingstone.com/culture/news/inside-scientology-20110208

And again, it's worth reposting that St. Pete Times series of articles for those who haven't read them:

http://www.tampabay.com/specials/2009/reports/project/

Woah 26 page article.

Normally I wouldn't feel like printing out an article to read on the way home was an abuse of office equipment, but this one took 48 sheets of paper. I punched holes in it and put it in a binder.

It's been said on this thread much before, but this is a fantastic article, and everyone should read it.

can someone link to it again? i'm too lazy to go into the 400+ other messages

Suck it up.

Or friend me on Facebook. It's on my profile recently.

what a sassmaster.

http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2011/02/14/110214fa_fact_wright

Well, I'd have had to look it up, too! Or reload the whole thread. I'm not going to do it just because he doesn't want to. That's free labor.

Or this one, where LRH predicts the coming of Mad Men:

http://www.xenu.net/archive/media_vault/Nochrist.mp3

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And because of that he put Elisabeth 'Peggy Olson' Moss in there? ;_;

(yes, only just now found out, rip etc.)

sorry kenan, didn't mean to make you cry

I read the whole thing and enjoyed it but sorta amazed I could read so much and not feel like I'd learned anything new. Maybe just read too many of these by now.

yeah, I feel that its main function is to lend further credence & exposure to what was already unearthed by the St. Petersburg Times piece(s). Absolutely nothing wrong w/ that though - very well written & assembled. The Tommy Davis quotes vs. contrary evidence/fact-checking is priceless stuff.

http://www.salon.com/news/politics/war_room/2011/02/10/scientology_friends_dc

greta van susteren? say it ain't so

she hid it and someone revealed it when she left cnn

The Tommy Davis quotes vs. contrary evidence/fact-checking is priceless stuff.

Definitely. The piece was well-edited with a nice big climax at the end. I think CoS's meeting with the New Yorker people was an uncharacteristically bad move for them, but the whole thing seems like a chess match where they're down to their last few moves and are hoping for stalemate at best.

i know! it would help their defense if it wasn't a bunch of creepy controlling thieving bullshit, but, there they are.

i bet if you talked to someone like your parents about these people, the answer would probably be "eh kinda creepy, really expensive, some pseudo psychological self-help crap, dumb celebrities are into it." but now all the wilder stories are being legitimized (maybe overselling the NYer's importance here, but their stuff resonates throughout the rest of the media). like, no really, tom cruise has custom motorcycles built by slave labor in the california desert. the dude's wife got disappeared.

http://www.npr.org/2011/02/08/133561256/the-church-of-scientology-fact-checked

Halfway through the print version and just wanted to ask, the online one doesn't have any additional content to the print one, does it?

I don't believe so.

Can't recall, are/were there any ilxors who have defended CoS?

too lazy to search but maybe a defend the indefensible?

I guess envisioning Isaac Hayes and Incredible String Band jamming together would give me ever-so-slight pause before GTFO.

the online one doesn't have any additional content to the print one, does it?

under "related links" there are links to an audio interview with the article's author, plus copies of documents such as lrh's military records

copies of documents such as lrh's military records

oh man. that's gotta burn Davis & co

I guess envisioning Isaac Hayes and Incredible String Band jamming together..

^ this reminds me: if you missed it at the time & you have a taste for CoS schadenfreude, you really should check out the skewering that South Park did a few years back & also the subsequent 'response' episode to Isaac Hayes leaving the show as a result of the ensuing controversy.

both eps are online in full:
http://www.southparkstudios.com/full-episodes/s09e12-trapped-in-the-closet
http://www.southparkstudios.com/full-episodes/s10e01-the-return-of-chef

I fuck with the first few post-CoS Incredible String Band records.

will never forgive these fuckers for essentially working isaac hayes into an early grave.

the musical chairs part freaked me out, except

According to Rathbun, Miscavige came to the Hole one evening and announced that everyone was going to play musical chairs. Only the last person standing would be allowed to stay on the base. He declared that people whose spouses “were not participants would have their marriages terminated.” The St. Petersburg Times noted that Miscavige played Queen’s “Bohemian Rhapsody” on a boom box as the church leaders fought over the chairs, punching each other and, in one case, ripping a chair apart.

surely the last person sitting would win a game of musical chairs? is this the most unfortunate misuse of a phrase ever? how did nobody sub this? not criticising just find it amusing.

last person physically able to stand up and walk to a chair

and sit down?

The weirdest thing is, of all the stories to confirm, the game of musical chairs is one thing Tommy Davis does confirm!

My favorite part of the South Park episodes was the THIS IS WHAT SCIENTOLOGISTS ACTUALLY BELIEVE text

I like the last line the best

did they get sued for that? and if not, how did they manage to avoid it?

They got threatened like crazy, Tom Cruise refused to do any press junkets on Comedy Central-related stations for War of the Worlds, iirc. I don't think they can sue because the episode really is what Scientologists believe, and the Tom Cruise / Travolta bits are satire.

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