scientology & celebrities

And again, it's worth reposting that St. Pete Times series of articles for those who haven't read them:

http://www.tampabay.com/specials/2009/reports/project/

Woah 26 page article.

Normally I wouldn't feel like printing out an article to read on the way home was an abuse of office equipment, but this one took 48 sheets of paper. I punched holes in it and put it in a binder.

It's been said on this thread much before, but this is a fantastic article, and everyone should read it.

can someone link to it again? i'm too lazy to go into the 400+ other messages

Suck it up.

Or friend me on Facebook. It's on my profile recently.

what a sassmaster.

http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2011/02/14/110214fa_fact_wright

Well, I'd have had to look it up, too! Or reload the whole thread. I'm not going to do it just because he doesn't want to. That's free labor.

Or this one, where LRH predicts the coming of Mad Men:

http://www.xenu.net/archive/media_vault/Nochrist.mp3

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And because of that he put Elisabeth 'Peggy Olson' Moss in there? ;_;

(yes, only just now found out, rip etc.)

sorry kenan, didn't mean to make you cry

I read the whole thing and enjoyed it but sorta amazed I could read so much and not feel like I'd learned anything new. Maybe just read too many of these by now.

yeah, I feel that its main function is to lend further credence & exposure to what was already unearthed by the St. Petersburg Times piece(s). Absolutely nothing wrong w/ that though - very well written & assembled. The Tommy Davis quotes vs. contrary evidence/fact-checking is priceless stuff.

http://www.salon.com/news/politics/war_room/2011/02/10/scientology_friends_dc

greta van susteren? say it ain't so

she hid it and someone revealed it when she left cnn

The Tommy Davis quotes vs. contrary evidence/fact-checking is priceless stuff.

Definitely. The piece was well-edited with a nice big climax at the end. I think CoS's meeting with the New Yorker people was an uncharacteristically bad move for them, but the whole thing seems like a chess match where they're down to their last few moves and are hoping for stalemate at best.

i know! it would help their defense if it wasn't a bunch of creepy controlling thieving bullshit, but, there they are.

i bet if you talked to someone like your parents about these people, the answer would probably be "eh kinda creepy, really expensive, some pseudo psychological self-help crap, dumb celebrities are into it." but now all the wilder stories are being legitimized (maybe overselling the NYer's importance here, but their stuff resonates throughout the rest of the media). like, no really, tom cruise has custom motorcycles built by slave labor in the california desert. the dude's wife got disappeared.

http://www.npr.org/2011/02/08/133561256/the-church-of-scientology-fact-checked

Halfway through the print version and just wanted to ask, the online one doesn't have any additional content to the print one, does it?

I don't believe so.

Can't recall, are/were there any ilxors who have defended CoS?

too lazy to search but maybe a defend the indefensible?

I guess envisioning Isaac Hayes and Incredible String Band jamming together would give me ever-so-slight pause before GTFO.

the online one doesn't have any additional content to the print one, does it?

under "related links" there are links to an audio interview with the article's author, plus copies of documents such as lrh's military records

copies of documents such as lrh's military records

oh man. that's gotta burn Davis & co

I guess envisioning Isaac Hayes and Incredible String Band jamming together..

^ this reminds me: if you missed it at the time & you have a taste for CoS schadenfreude, you really should check out the skewering that South Park did a few years back & also the subsequent 'response' episode to Isaac Hayes leaving the show as a result of the ensuing controversy.

both eps are online in full:
http://www.southparkstudios.com/full-episodes/s09e12-trapped-in-the-closet
http://www.southparkstudios.com/full-episodes/s10e01-the-return-of-chef

I fuck with the first few post-CoS Incredible String Band records.

will never forgive these fuckers for essentially working isaac hayes into an early grave.

the musical chairs part freaked me out, except

According to Rathbun, Miscavige came to the Hole one evening and announced that everyone was going to play musical chairs. Only the last person standing would be allowed to stay on the base. He declared that people whose spouses “were not participants would have their marriages terminated.” The St. Petersburg Times noted that Miscavige played Queen’s “Bohemian Rhapsody” on a boom box as the church leaders fought over the chairs, punching each other and, in one case, ripping a chair apart.

surely the last person sitting would win a game of musical chairs? is this the most unfortunate misuse of a phrase ever? how did nobody sub this? not criticising just find it amusing.

last person physically able to stand up and walk to a chair

and sit down?

The weirdest thing is, of all the stories to confirm, the game of musical chairs is one thing Tommy Davis does confirm!

My favorite part of the South Park episodes was the THIS IS WHAT SCIENTOLOGISTS ACTUALLY BELIEVE text

I like the last line the best

did they get sued for that? and if not, how did they manage to avoid it?

They got threatened like crazy, Tom Cruise refused to do any press junkets on Comedy Central-related stations for War of the Worlds, iirc. I don't think they can sue because the episode really is what Scientologists believe, and the Tom Cruise / Travolta bits are satire.

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Furthermore, says Wright, the notice of separation that the church provided was signed by a man who never existed.

never existed on earth perhaps, but elsewhere ........

there are lies, there are damn lies, and then there are statistics

Won't scroll through the thread to see if it's been posted, but The New Yorker just published an article about Paul Haggis' adventures in Scientology.

lol

A few years ago i dl'ed some Scientology video on The Reactive Mind and becoming a Clear and it was about some guy in a car accident being affected by the things people were saying around him, even though he was unconscious. There's another video that leaked, which is basically just a really generic sales pitch with a few famous faces at the very end. Has any truly crazy Scientology insider videos leaked in the past few years? And no, I mean beside Battlefield Earth ;-)

there's a pretty famous video of Cruise speaking at a Scieno event

Cannot recommend it enough:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMvAXpq7Xj4

Being a Scientologist, when you drive past an accident.. you know you have to do something about it because you know you are the only one that can really help. Being a Scientologist, when you drive past an accident.. you know you have to do something about it because you know you are the only one that can really help. Being a Scientologist, when you drive past an accident.. you know you have to do something about it because you know you are the only one that can really help. Being a Scientologist, when you drive past an accident.. you know you have to do something about it because you know you are the only one that can really help. Being a Scientologist, when you drive past an accident.. you know you have to do something about it because you know you are the only one that can really help. Being a Scientologist, when you drive past an accident.. you know you have to do something about it because you know you are the only one that can really help.

holy shit that tom cruise youtube totally comes off as a parody

too surreal to be parody imo

Make sure you get to the part in the third part of the video wherein they heal 9/11 workers by extracting purple fluid from them.

An aside from this conversation: interesting how Tony Robbins has gone from, in his 1980s infomercial incarnation, being cult-ish and mysterious-to-all-but-those-who-pay to being more of a performance self-help guru. He still has similar intense energy as these guys, but without the e-meter.

(from the yahoo piece)

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---------How do these freaks keep their tax exempt status as a religion?
They protect all related literature as a Corportation.. which pretty much nullifies the entire concept of Non-Profit, and they raise their followers in tiers based on how much MONEY they've put into the "church."

Their entire "religion" is from SCIENCE FICTION literature. There is no Faith or Religion to it, only a pyramid scheme.

Cross your fingers!

http://www.firstshowing.net/2011/p-t-anderson-may-have-funding-for-inherent-vice-the-master/

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http://valleywag.gawker.com/#!337723/megan-ellison-loves-the-ladies-just-like-dad

Their entire "religion" is from SCIENCE FICTION literature. There is no Faith or Religion to it, only a pyramid scheme.

Yes, but repeatedly during that long Tom Cruise thing he alludes to things he 'knows' about the real nature of reality, things only Scientologists know. Makes me wonder if once you get to OT III or whatever it is, they drug you up and take you to a room where you experience some serious planet-hopping shit like from the end of "They Live!"

There certainly seems to be faith in something -- faith in the LRH technologies, faith in the idea that psychiatry is a massive $$$-farming conspiracy, faith in the idea that you have a duty to help others. Certainly no more absurd than weekly cannibalistic rituals and thinking if you believe in Jesus right before you die (not the abstract concept of love & eternity, mind you, only a physical person), you go to heaven.

The conviction in his voice is very convincing. Tho yeah he's 'the greatest actor in the world' so maybe that should be expected. Btw it is pretty bizarre to think according to Scientology rating system Tom Cruise is essentially more spiritually evolved than Jesus or Buddha.

..Tom Cruise is essentially more spiritually evolved than Jesus or Buddha.

shhh don't tell Keanu

http://www.corporate-aliens.com/quotes/siddhartha.jpg

xp that was the thing about though... he doesn't sound at all authentic in that video, he sounds like he's just another character from one of his movies.