TS: Pavement / Smashing Pumpkins

Pretty sure Iha has a couple songwriting credits on Mellon Collie.

stephen malkmus is a babe

pavement

i am sorry for the infinite sadness of people who do not get why

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Pumpkins easily. I still listen to Mellon Collie and Siamese Dream a lot, and I'm even a fan of that Aeroplane cash-in boxset ("Cherry"! "Tribute to Johnny"! Prety much every song on the "Tonight Tonight" single!). I still find it amazing that Billy could write like forty amazing songs in the span of two years, and nothing even remotely resembling an amazing song whatsoever for the next sixteen.

Pavement were never really my thing. I like "Summer Babe," "Stop Breathin'," "Perfume V," "Texas Never Whispers," and "In the Mouth of a Desert," but that's about it.

my dad thought pavement were some band from school's demo tape i had, and was quite shocked that they were a proper signed act.

"your mate does a good american accent... v sloppy playing, tho."

For all the abuse Pavement get for "not properly playing" or whatever, to my ears they sound closer -- in songwriting and feel -- to the studio rock I love from the seventies than the Pumpkins.

no, true. i love them. there's a clip on a documentary were some german journalist basically tells them that. "you are brinking ze rock back!"

pavement had one song where you can actually feel something: "In the Mouth a Desert". smashing pumpkins has at the very least: "1979", "tonight" and "thirty-three". not even their rock songs but at least they are memorable

Pavement was a decent (if still overrated act) up to and sort of including S&E (which was still decent, but god knows nothing as special as it was made out to be). After that they basically sucked. The Smashing Pumpkins always sucked.

I think the people that like pavement somehow get something out of the guy's voice. Whether they can relate to it or whatever. I don't know what

but relating to a voice can be a big cause for liking something music-wise

You're forgetting something: Billy Corgan's reedy thin whine/yelp.

Whining is '30 Seconds to Mars' and a bunch of contemporary rock. Corgan's growl sounds more like holding out a long nasalized note than whining (or something to that effect).

and his shitty middle school journal lyrics

xp

"corgan's growl"??

ultimately pavement is bro music

the further i get out from when Smashing Pumpkins were at their peak, the more i appreciate how great their best stuff was. and with each passing year, i wonder more and more why the hell i ever liked Pavement enough to own all of their albums, shit just has no use to me outside of a handful of songs that only occasionally sound good.

xp

...bros that go to coffee shops to play scrabble

hahaha

bros who go home to fuck other bros

lol

TS: smugness vs megalomania

bro life is a kaleidescope of experiences: scrabble, gay sex, preston school of industry, alcoholism, horse racing

"corgan's growl"??

― mookieproof,

corgan's howl*

he growls like a ninny. awful

"corgan's howl"

^^if this was a broadway rock opera based on the ginsberg joint, now we'd be in business!

despite all my rage i am still just a bitchy bald dude

that doesn't rhyme :-/

despite all my gold soundz i am a neutered git

despite all my rage i will not come to terms with my age

despite how i squeal i am still just a mouse in a wheel

Intoxicated by the badness
I'm in love with my lameness

we need our balls balls balls balls balls balls back right now

I like where this thread is heading

http://www.pvusd.net/schools/central_zone/rolling_hills_middle_school/images/rollinghills-sign.jpg

what about the voice of billy c

i wonder if he speaks like an ordinary guy?

I fucked him and he doesn't.

you fucked him with your pussy

kool kids never had the whine

that's not fair. pavement don't have any memorable lyrics

their lyrics also make fun of smashing pumpkins

this thread took a turn for the awesome

I/it has no function.

lorax straight tearing holes in u dudes

i loved pumpkins as a kid, never got into pavement at all. went back to siamese dream once and other than disarm which is still goth power ballad 4eva it was really clunky leaden shit

I love this clip. The end where he apologizes for his shitty singing is quite a treat. btw there are endless amounts "Pavement Shreds" youtube clips.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDtZousQsME

real lols

Lorax just became one of my favourite posters

despite all my rage I am still just a latter-day saint