scientology & celebrities

what really intrigues me is the lingo and acronyms -- has a real 50's pentagon/bureaucratic feel. just normal words Capitalized and given this heavy significance.

ha just remembered this shit:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Process_Church_of_The_Final_Judgment

In the primordial past, thetans brought the material universe into being largely for their own pleasure. The universe has no independent reality, but derives its apparent reality from the fact that most thetans agree it exists. Thetans fell from grace when they began to identify with their creation, rather than their original state of spiritual purity. Eventually they lost their memory of their true nature, along with the associated spiritual and creative powers. As a result, thetans came to think of themselves as nothing but embodied beings.

I mean, you could more or less find this exact theory among late 19th century Orientalist/Spiritualists.

I totally agree, terminology seems to be very important. Note how much Tom Cruise talks about 'technology'.

I imagine that "auditing" does have immediate positive effects, since it's basically cognitive behavioral therapy. The trouble is the layers of bullshit they pile on top of that.

And also obviously the slave labor, the beatings, the bankrupting of members, etc etc etc.

"Oh, right, the beatings, I always forget."

http://www.skillecosystem.net/images/dr_zoidberg.jpg

Yeah auditing is basically psychotherapy, case closed. Good to have that cleared up

A certain person from here posted this and that is a fine and good thing:

http://gawker.com/#!5757676/the-best-scientology-video-youll-see-today

But never -- *ever* -- ignore the joy of:

http://www. ronthemusicmaker. org

(Spaces included to prevent those goofs from following us back here. But trust me.)

xp I can't tell if that's sarcasm or not.

"via minge"

As are we all.

It's so great that there appears to be no corner of human experience that old LRH left unexplored. The more you read, the more you get reminded of

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-mO_gGh3MA

Oh, shit, I smell an ILM poll a-comin'

For an insight into what made the Mission Earth album so special, rock legend Edgar Winter was to comment, “Up until my work on Mission Earth I had not been aware that Ron had a particular interest in rock music. But when I read his research I was amazed at what I found. Ron analyzed the history and development of rock music and came up with the exact formula of what makes a hit rock song. It was unlike anything I’d ever read before and made total sense to me.” The following, then, is Ron’s analysis and study of the “ins and outs” of rock, which formed the basis of the Mission Earth album. Written in February 1984, it is published here for the first time.

http://cdn2.iofferphoto.com/img/item/111/391/782/WbfU.jpg

I hate to keep posting but this motherfucker is on a total Hongro tip here!

One could go into a lengthy discussion of various rock stars but it would begin to lead back to the Beatles and Presley and their records are hot sellers even today.

But this point can be made concerning the beginning of careers of the real stars of rock. It has been observed that the real giant stars burst into huge, long-lasting fame at an exact point in their careers: They used orchestral backup. And the Beatles were actually playing and recording classical backed up by an orchestra even though you see the four of them out there in front. Their producer, George Martin, was a classical man, who also did most of the arranging. (He was called the “fifth Beatle.”) From this a point can be concluded: That rock stars and rock groups who back up with an orchestral have lasting duration. This is a new observation arrived at by somebody who is a student of this sort of thing and it seems to check out. Three or four electric guitars are not the background which make lasting rock stars. Thus one can conclude that successful rock employs not just a twanging gimmick or two but a whole, well-skilled orchestra as backup. This is true of singers and music in other fields: You should hear the orchestral backup in terms of numbers and arrangements of Rudy Vallee, Bing Crosby, Frank Sinatra, etc. Since the focal point of the public is on some star, this tends to get overlooked but it is not basically overlooked by the public.

The point here is that three or four guys with electric instruments get beat out every time by somebody with full orchestral backup.

Choral also enters into this scene. The Presley use of choral was amazing and today choral is extensively used in rock backup. This is, actually, the spiritual stream which seems to have entered into modern rock.

One can conclude that successful and lasting rock music has (a) heavy and numerous orchestral backup which sometimes includes choral and (b) is well arranged.
A study of the rock genre as it is modernly and even historically performed, shows that it lacks in the aggregate the following (with exceptions here and there which exceptions have actually made stars).

1. Melody,
2. Articulation,
3. Plan,
4. Arrangement (aside from a few spectacular pieces),
5. Message,
6. Trained voices and
7. Expert instrumentalists.

Where some pieces included one or more of these, it has been successful.

What rock has is:

a. Physiological impact,
b. Chords,
c. Beat, and
d. A feeling of excitement (or hysteria).

And it is to be commented on that current rock even lacks one or more of the (a) to (d).

Reviewing some of the more all-time successful pieces demonstrates that they did have some of 1 to 7 and had (a) to (d).

The above however, as an analysis, gives you a key to what could become very successful rock. All you have to do is combine 1 to 7 with (a) to (d) and you should have it made.

has this already been posted? dang
http://www.ronthemusicmaker.org/music/listen.htm

1. THE ROAD TO FREEDOM performed by John Travolta, Leif Garrett, Frank Stallone, Lee Purcell.
2. THE WAY TO HAPPINESS performed by Leif Garrett, Gayle Moran, Nicky Hopkins.

3. THE WORRIED BEING performed by Amanda Ambrose.

4. THE EVIL PURPOSE performed by Frank Stallone.

5. LAUGH A LITTLE performed by Michael Roberts, Pam Roberts, Margie Nelson.

6. THE GOOD GO FREE performed by David Pomerantz.

7. WHY WORSHIP DEATH? performed by Chick Corea, Julia Migenes.

8. MAKE IT GO RIGHT performed by David Pomerantz.

9. THE ARC SONG performed by John Travolta, Karen Black, Jeff Pomerantz, Frank Stallone, Lee Purcell, Gloria Rusch.

10. L’ENVOI, THANK YOU FOR LISTENING performed by L. Ron Hubbard

Haha I actually think I might have posted it way the hell upthread -- but it's always the right time to be reminded of it.

oh oops sorry ned, missed your post

Get down!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMPYEZnClho

feel like ILM should do their own version of that album, just going off of the song titles

I call Why Worship Death

obviously needs a black metal treatment

A certain person from here posted this and that is a fine and good thing:

http://gawker.com/#!5757676/the-best-scientology-video-youll-see-today

scientology obv did *wonders* for the careers of frank stallone and leif garrett.

"Why worship death? Because DEATH RUUUUUULES!!!"
http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcS2aoj_p-oR84-PxRjDpUdhgx_Zqk8oqNJ1mBSC1v7yO3RpgVeP&t=1

The Evil Purpose sounds like an 80s Dio song title, could definitely go with a NWOBHM style there

no lie, that "road to freedom" song on the video is pretty rockin.

^^^brainwashed

heyyy wait it IS pretty rockin! maybe there's more to this scientology thing than i thought. brb

"maybe you've been brainwashed too" (via new radicals)

1. THE ROAD TO FREEDOM
2. THE WAY TO HAPPINESS
3. THE WORRIED BEING
4. THE EVIL PURPOSE
5. LAUGH A LITTLE
6. THE GOOD GO FREE
7. WHY WORSHIP DEATH?
8. MAKE IT GO RIGHT
9. THE ARC SONG
10. L’ENVOI, THANK YOU FOR LISTENING

ilx comp v. five - this is not the music of l. ron hubbard, music maker

"Arc Song" should be the 20-minute ambient piece imo

are the Road to Freedom and the Way to Happiness the same street or what

i want in to this comp thing

"laugh a little, with grannykart"

Someone go ahead and start the thread.

i used to live kinda at the midpoint between the dianetics center and the celebrity centre! this comp was made for me.

I'm also in on the comp.

very well then, i call "laugh a little." the possibilities are many.

i really really wonder about all the successful ppl in the entertainment biz who have nothing to do w/ these people at all, what are their interactions like. there must be tons of stories. of course stories of tom cruise with his proselytizing tent at a shoot get out, but that kind of thing must happen in miniature all the time, right?

As noted above, it's really pretty interesting how Scientology has integrated a cult of celebrity, Protestant ethic (if you believe you'll become successful), and your common ponzi scheme with stuff like Christian Gnosticism. Reading a book on "American Gnosticism" and can't help but feel Scientology is some sort of great and terrible apotheosis of some deep religious currents in America. Has it taken hold in many other countries?

no

One of the most interesting/wtf scenes in the book of Christane F. is when she visits some drug rehab clinic run by scientologists in Germany. They made her sit in a room silently all day and touch a football periodically, look at it from different angles, etc.

mind reeeling from frank stallone/leif duet

They made her sit in a room silently all day and touch a football periodically, look at it from different angles, etc.

an american football? or a soccerball?

american football would be more perverse, i guess?

Ha, I was imagining an American football, but I have no idea! Probably a German one!

Do scientologists allow soccer?

Are you sure they weren't just... German?

german gov't hates the scientologists iirc.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientology_in_Germany

When it became known that Microsoft's Windows 2000 operating system included a disk defragmenter developed by Executive Software International (a company headed by a Scientologist), this caused concern among German government officials and clergy over data security and the potential for espionage.[3][65][69] To assuage these concerns, Microsoft Germany agreed to provide a means to disable the utility.[65][69] Following letters of complaint about discrimination from Scientology lawyers, some American companies such as General Electric, IBM and Ford Motor Company instructed their German subsidiaries to cease the use of protective declarations.[70]

just O_O