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as i told z_s at the time, "so many thanking u"

HOOS the master?? STEEN NUFF (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Tuesday, 15 February 2011 04:56 (thirteen years ago) link

I know there's no way of proving it, it's just a feeling, but in my heart I truly & sincerely believe that if Varg weren't, y'know, The Great And Terrible Varg, nobody but nobody outside of the deepest kvlt dudes would give half a shit about his stuff any more than they care about dozens of Russian BM bands making the exact same kinda music that Varg makes, year in & year out. Sure ok: he's the originator! Give that man a cigar and ask him to write something interesting.

If Slayer didn't look fucking evil and shocked the world with Mengele lyrics, or Lemmy didn't look like such as badass, or Venom didn't have the most rediculously satanic lyrics, or Iron Maiden didn't have Eddie none of them would have made it far out of their garages either. But they did, and Burzum is now one of the most infuential metal artists of the last twenty years. Look at ILM top 100, nearly everything there that is not built on pre-90s metal has a bit of Varg in it. So yeah, totally overrated.

Siegbran, Tuesday, 15 February 2011 22:05 (thirteen years ago) link

Is he considered more influential musically than Darkthrone and other first wave BM bands?

Inevitable stupid dubstep mix (chap), Wednesday, 16 February 2011 03:06 (thirteen years ago) link

First wave is 80s Hellhammer/Celtic Frost/Sodom/Bathory and but I don't think it's in any way controversial to consider Vikernes the major musical innovater of the "big 4" that were shaping the BM revival circa 90/91. In those days Darkthrone was 50% Celtic Frost/50% Bathory (just listen to A Blaze...), Immortal 100% Bathory worship and Mayhem had only just stopped being a Venom/Sodom clone. When the S/T came out nobody else was doing the combination of ambient soundscapes, hypnotic 10+ minute songs with one riff/motif or those typical open sting chords and arpeggios. Burzum was one of the first metal bands to succesfully focus on atmospherics and textures exclusively, and had nothing in common with the "riff salad" songwriting style in contemporary death/thrash/black. I think it's fair to consider Darkthrone, Mayhem and Immortal as reviving and building on the heritage of the first wave BM, and Burzum as changing it into something completely new altogether.

The only band with a comparable musical influence on BM was Mayhem (also those hypnotic 'nordic' riffs coupled with *very* fast playing) but even there Varg played on their debut. It's also no coincidence that Varg was asked to do the lyrics for Transilvanian Hunger, the point where Darkthrone went truly minimalist, and again on their most Burzumesque song, "Quintessence".

Siegbran, Wednesday, 16 February 2011 20:10 (thirteen years ago) link

Someone has a crush...

NYCNative, Wednesday, 16 February 2011 20:12 (thirteen years ago) link

yes, i have a crush on Siegbran

☠ (roxymuzak), Wednesday, 16 February 2011 21:45 (thirteen years ago) link

hahaha

HOOS the master?? STEEN NUFF (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Thursday, 17 February 2011 00:48 (thirteen years ago) link

two months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0oisc4CZeAI

The Burzums was the musical project by Charlie "Varg" Vikernes. It began during 1961 in Bergen, California and quickly became prominent within the early Californian surf scene. During 1962 and 1963, The Burzums recorded four albums; however, in 1964 Vikernes was convicted and imprisoned for using cuss words in public to describe guitarist Øystein "Euronymous" Aarseth, and the mild intimidation of the congregations of several milk bars and several churches. While imprisoned, Vikernes recorded two really poor albums in the dark ambient surf style.

Dunkelheit first featured on the Burzums' legendary surf LP Filosofem (literally "Surf's Up" in English) recorded on a low budget in the back of a surf shop in Bergen, California using an Edison Phonograph, the cheapest instruments available to Varg and other awesome gadgets to get that famously warm Trve Kvlt sound of sand, sun and surf.

am0n, Wednesday, 27 April 2011 15:17 (thirteen years ago) link

Charlie? From what I recal, his birth name was Christian, but he got rid of it (for understandable reasons, given his satanic faith...)

Hongroe (Geir Hongro), Wednesday, 27 April 2011 22:27 (thirteen years ago) link

wow, geir

gr8080, Wednesday, 27 April 2011 22:48 (thirteen years ago) link

dude knows his audience yall

total pro

cop a cute abdomen (gbx), Wednesday, 27 April 2011 22:54 (thirteen years ago) link

lol

del griffith, Thursday, 28 April 2011 01:46 (thirteen years ago) link

dark ambient surf style

Someone start a band like this...

Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Thursday, 28 April 2011 09:19 (thirteen years ago) link

^was just about to post this...

Dr. Suggestban, or How I Learned to Stop etc. (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 28 April 2011 23:58 (thirteen years ago) link

Check out Wilburn Burchette's stuff!

Telemachus Sneezed (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Friday, 29 April 2011 02:24 (thirteen years ago) link

had a dream (srsly) a couple years back about dark ambient surf. dream buddy suggested Earth may have gotten to it already

bear, bear, bear, Friday, 29 April 2011 02:29 (thirteen years ago) link

one year passes...

Having just started dipping into black metal earlier this year, the first band that really yanked me to attention was Darkthrone... Several on this board gently suggested to seek out the works of Varg, so I've started. So far all I've picked up is Det Som Engang Var, but I've got Filosofem on the way and I'm really curious about the two keyboard records. Det Som Engang Var is WAY different than I was expecting--there's a real, I don't know how exactly to say it, clarity of expression underlying the whole thing. I guess I was expecting more of that Darkthrone-y wash and rush, but this is pretty stately stuff. ("Key to the Gate" actually reminds me of Slint!) I have to admit, I was somewhat skeptical of the "dude's a scumbag but some of the stuff is undeniably great" line, but I'll be damned if the shit doesn't grab you. Sorry, mom.

Clarke B., Tuesday, 10 July 2012 14:57 (eleven years ago) link

one year passes...

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3kDk (dog latin), Tuesday, 8 July 2014 10:09 (nine years ago) link

Mayhem shirts too: http://www.sportsdirect.com/official-mayhem-t-shirt-mens-596600

john wahey (NickB), Tuesday, 8 July 2014 10:20 (nine years ago) link

what a time to be alive

john wahey (NickB), Tuesday, 8 July 2014 10:20 (nine years ago) link

i've been looking for something to wear to my next metal concert and these are CHEEAP. On a scale of 1-10 how false metal would I be for ordering one of these?

3kDk (dog latin), Tuesday, 8 July 2014 10:21 (nine years ago) link

i think if you soak it in a bucket of piss for a week you'll be alright

john wahey (NickB), Tuesday, 8 July 2014 10:23 (nine years ago) link

presumably SD ordered a big consignment of these from the same manufacturers that supply Blue Banana/HMV/countless eBay and Amazon shops, so I don't really figure it makes much difference where you buy it from

Kiss Screaming Seagull Her Seagull Her (DJ Mencap), Tuesday, 8 July 2014 10:40 (nine years ago) link

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paolo, Tuesday, 8 July 2014 11:39 (nine years ago) link

Colour: True Black

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3kDk (dog latin), Tuesday, 8 July 2014 11:45 (nine years ago) link

eight months pass...
two months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6A-XSRWSx8

linee, Friday, 29 May 2015 23:48 (eight years ago) link

He forgot the diesel truck toot at the start of the song. Riffs still sound great though.

Books I can read the titles of:
Eventyr (Fairytales)
Wheelock's Latin.
Race differences in intelligence

Dammit, Varg.

July retires into a shrubbery. (Øystein), Saturday, 30 May 2015 08:05 (eight years ago) link

one year passes...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJj5S_3jOJ4

am0n, Thursday, 12 January 2017 19:23 (seven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymGo2q-SSOw

Johan Lif, Thursday, 12 January 2017 20:28 (seven years ago) link


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