IT'S POLITICAL CORRECTNESS GONE MAD!

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Because in the main it's left-liberal progressives who are trying to society's attitudes and (specifically) subscribe to poncey theories about language having a complext two-way relationship with society rather than it being a neutral "a spade's a spade" thing.

it's not clear-cut though, because anti-abortionists want to be called "pro-life" etc. That's a kind of political correctness, but people don't call it that.

Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 22 August 2006 17:11 (seventeen years ago) link

i.e. "free market" i.e. "tax relief" i.e. "homicide bombers" i.e. "freedom fighters"

Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Tuesday, 22 August 2006 19:22 (seventeen years ago) link

Turner then proposed to Ofcom it should edit out any scenes or references in Tom and Jerry in which smoking appeared to be condoned, acceptable or glamorised or where it might encourage imitation - such as in Texas Tom where Tom uses smoking to try to impress.

However, Turner believed that editing out all references to smoking might adversely affect the "value of the animation".

Ofcom's broadcast code states that smoking must not be featured in programmes made primarily for children unless there is strong editorial justification; and it must not be condoned, encouraged or glamorised before the watershed.

The regulator recognised the cartoons were made from the 1940s through to the 1960s when smoking was considered more acceptable.

Ofcom also noted that in Tom and Jerry, smoking usually appears "in a stylised manner and is frequently not condoned".

The regulator welcomed Turner's "precautionary approach" and review of the archive material.

However, the regulator said in future it would look at all such cases individually and that "the level of editorial justification required for the inclusion of smoking in such cartoons is necessarily high".

And to think, I grew up in an era where racist stereotypes were already edited out of Tom and Jerry and Loony Tunes episodes. Look at what I missed. Now kids don't even get smoking (well not all of it--they get to maintain the "value of the animation").

IT'S GONE MAD. MAD I TELL YOU!

Is it 2006, or is it NINETEEN EIGHTY-FOUR?!?!?!

Fluffy Bear (Fluffy Bear Hearts Rainbows), Tuesday, 22 August 2006 19:51 (seventeen years ago) link

well at the other end of the spectrum it's like 1945 never happened in mumbai

http://www.google.com/url?sa=U&start=2&q=http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060821/od_nm/india_hitler_dc&e=9797&sig=__zDXDL7G_OaorrS3e_UABJka4sFo=

The Real DG (D to thee G), Tuesday, 22 August 2006 19:57 (seventeen years ago) link

one year passes...

http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/s/1015/1015507_600_face_court_for_feet.html

probably more 'nanny state' but ech.

That one guy that hit it and quit it, Wednesday, 5 September 2007 09:45 (sixteen years ago) link

i saw some news bit where a school banned the game of tag

latebloomer, Wednesday, 5 September 2007 09:48 (sixteen years ago) link

On The One Show on BBC1 last night, there was an old woman who wants these signs banned:

http://www.highwaycode.gov.uk/images/signs106.gif

Because, basically, "just because we're old, doesn't mean we walk in single-file".

Jesus christ, some people need more important things to think about

nate woolls, Wednesday, 5 September 2007 09:58 (sixteen years ago) link

xpost
The Mail is all in a tiz about this.

It has nothing to do with political correctness though, does it?

Ned Trifle II, Wednesday, 5 September 2007 09:58 (sixteen years ago) link

xpost re: School banning tag.

It was one big bluff:

"No, no, it's banned. You can't. It doesn't count.......... IT!!!" (runs away)

Mark G, Wednesday, 5 September 2007 10:00 (sixteen years ago) link

So the mail is for zero tolearance except when you are middle class

Ed, Wednesday, 5 September 2007 10:02 (sixteen years ago) link

As for tag, well I know quite a few schools banned it in the US last year. Again, though, it's not really political correctness. I think it's more to do with vocal parents. If one parent complains about something at my children's school it'll generally lead to a comment on the school newsheet. And often the head teacher will ban something if he gets even just a couple of complaints. Sadly, I am a lone voice demanding that my kids should be allow to smoke on the playing fields (as I did in my day and my father before me...)

Ned Trifle II, Wednesday, 5 September 2007 10:03 (sixteen years ago) link

and "wearing flip-flops" and have a good set of photos available, now the A Level passing season is over.

Also:

Then, magistrates at Chester were presented with the case of a 19-year-old Cub Scout leader caught lolling in a train carriage with her feet (clad in flipflop sandals) resting on the seat in front of her.

So, watch out, you excelsiors!

Mark G, Wednesday, 5 September 2007 10:04 (sixteen years ago) link

So the mail is for zero tolearance except when you are middle class

Or a car driver.

Ned Trifle II, Wednesday, 5 September 2007 10:04 (sixteen years ago) link

From the comments on the feet article:

"I wonder precisely how young and pretty one has to be before one can break the rules with impunity."

It did cross my mind that the 250 people prosecuted before the pretty young white maths student cub scout leader who works with disabled children didn't warrant a news article about these "draconian" measures that have been in place for 6 months.

onimo, Wednesday, 5 September 2007 10:05 (sixteen years ago) link

I hate getting my pants dirty on train seats.

kingkongvsgodzilla, Wednesday, 5 September 2007 10:06 (sixteen years ago) link

put them on yr flip-flops then!

Mark G, Wednesday, 5 September 2007 10:07 (sixteen years ago) link

"I am a liberal by inclination"

pffft

Just got offed, Wednesday, 5 September 2007 10:07 (sixteen years ago) link

if i'm reading this right, a whole bunch of you think people should be in court for this trivial shit...?

That one guy that hit it and quit it, Wednesday, 5 September 2007 10:10 (sixteen years ago) link

It sort of breaks into Ben Elton's classic "doubleseat" routine as well.

Mark G, Wednesday, 5 September 2007 10:10 (sixteen years ago) link

I haven't seen anybody go one way or the other here. xpost

The article's main point is the targetting of 'non-threatening' people, but seeing as how 250 other people got summonsed too, how could they know? They might all have been asbo hoodied pikey asylum seekers for all they kno.

Mark G, Wednesday, 5 September 2007 10:12 (sixteen years ago) link

No, I don't think she should be in court for it, I'm just point out the double standard.

Ed, Wednesday, 5 September 2007 10:12 (sixteen years ago) link

Me also.

Ned Trifle II, Wednesday, 5 September 2007 10:19 (sixteen years ago) link

What this boils down to is that when someone puts their feet on the seats, SURE they ought to receive a ticking-off, but it SHOULDN'T result in a fine, or worse, a news article.

Just got offed, Wednesday, 5 September 2007 10:20 (sixteen years ago) link

but the MAIL was pointing out the double-standard. the mail was saying lock middle-class people too, for great justice.

That one guy that hit it and quit it, Wednesday, 5 September 2007 10:24 (sixteen years ago) link

So how should Merseyrail solve the problem of their dirty train seats?

kingkongvsgodzilla, Wednesday, 5 September 2007 10:30 (sixteen years ago) link

Remove all the seats and replace solid floors with grating.

Ed, Wednesday, 5 September 2007 10:31 (sixteen years ago) link

But that's not the Mail's usual stance of "stop picking on careless speeding drivers, not when there's real crimes going on". xxpost

Bocken Social Scene, Wednesday, 5 September 2007 10:32 (sixteen years ago) link

Ban students. Especially in the first few weeks of term when freshers can't shut the fuck up.

xp

onimo, Wednesday, 5 September 2007 10:33 (sixteen years ago) link

it's partly merseyrail's problem, partly everyone else who ride's the line's. the guardian woman who says "hey, we're all selfish cunts right?" is wrong.

xpost

yeah i know, but to be fair, it is pure revenue, the speeding fines thing. again an issue of stop being cunts, i guess, but fines for slightly breaking the limit? ech.

That one guy that hit it and quit it, Wednesday, 5 September 2007 10:34 (sixteen years ago) link

What fucks me off is used to travel on Merseyrail regularly in the late 90's and you always had to work out which seats had been pissed on before you sat down.

Lynskey, Wednesday, 5 September 2007 10:45 (sixteen years ago) link

You have to wear flip flops to avoid getting piss on your feet.

onimo, Wednesday, 5 September 2007 10:46 (sixteen years ago) link

I'll always treasure the old "but I don't wear those kinds of shoes" while pointing at the sign in protest when told to take feet off.

blueski, Wednesday, 5 September 2007 10:48 (sixteen years ago) link

two months pass...

Santas warned their "Ho ho ho" may be offensive to women

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20071115/wl_asia_afp/lifestyleaustraliachristmasoffbeat

StanM, Thursday, 15 November 2007 22:45 (sixteen years ago) link

Let a ho ho ho be a ho ho ho.

milo z, Thursday, 15 November 2007 22:47 (sixteen years ago) link

Score one for the batshit rightwing cartoonists

Slumpman, Thursday, 15 November 2007 23:18 (sixteen years ago) link

The idea of Santa saying "ha ha ha" IS fucking hysterical though for some reason

If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Friday, 16 November 2007 16:30 (sixteen years ago) link

That is typical telegraph bullshit. Even the company involved says they aren't doing it.

Ned Trifle II, Friday, 16 November 2007 16:44 (sixteen years ago) link

I love it when they run a whole story then smuggle a quote in at the end from the alleged perpetrator saying "yeah is this definitely not happening at all".

The imaginary war on Christmas is my favourite political correctness gone mad gone mad

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=6804421078

That mong guy that's shit, Friday, 16 November 2007 18:01 (sixteen years ago) link

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/18/magazine/18wwln-medium-t.html

StanM, Monday, 19 November 2007 10:55 (sixteen years ago) link

LOL @ facebook M0RANS group:

ANYONE WHO JOINS THE GROUP AND DOESNT READ WHAT ITS BOUT BEFORE POSTING A COMMENT WHICH SAYS THAT THE GROUP IS BOLLOCKS, AND WE ARE ALL SUCKERS FOR BELIEVING IT BLAH FUCKING BLAH BLAH SHOULD GO AWAY AND NOT BOTHER JOINING, BLOODY HELL SORT YOUR LIVES OUT.

IE don't you dare tell us that the entire premise of our group & victim culture mission st8ment is based on total bollocks that somebody MADE UP!

NB the first posted item - b|\|p video, also one of the wall posts starts w/"im no racist but..."

Feh, delete humanity.

Pashmina, Monday, 19 November 2007 11:21 (sixteen years ago) link

we aren't going to make it, are we

That mong guy that's shit, Monday, 19 November 2007 11:32 (sixteen years ago) link

Someone on my Facebook friends list joined a group called "COMMON SENSE RIP", which was just a long string of awful e-mail round robin "BARMY BRUSSELLS BEAUCRATS WANT TO BAN TIPEX BECAUSE IT'S RACIST" shit. I then defriended her.

Dom Passantino, Monday, 19 November 2007 11:35 (sixteen years ago) link

Examples of political correctness gone too far.

Heave Ho, Monday, 19 November 2007 11:50 (sixteen years ago) link

well spotted, heave ho.

That one guy that hit it and quit it, Monday, 19 November 2007 11:51 (sixteen years ago) link

Examples please.
-- Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, June 9, 2004 1:56 PM (3 years ago) Bookmark Link

Examples of political correctness gone too far.
-- N. (nickdastoor), Wednesday, June 9, 2004 1:59 PM (3 years ago) Bookmark Link

That one guy that hit it and quit it, Monday, 19 November 2007 11:51 (sixteen years ago) link

According to a tiny column filler in the Times, the author Lindsey Gardiner has said that her publishing editors objected to a scene in one her books where a dragons toasted marshmallows by using the flames from its nose on the grounds that 'it looked dangerous and went against health and safety'.

Update: Also in the Telegraph.

Another of her novels, When Poppy and Max Grow Up, initially included a scene where a little boy climbed a ladder, but that too was changed. "They didn't allow Max to be on a ladder because they thought it was precarious. But when I changed it, I had him standing on a pile of three paint cans, which is much more dangerous, and they didn't have a problem with that," she said.

Matt DC, Monday, 19 November 2007 12:47 (sixteen years ago) link

That is some MPAA-level shit.

Abbott, Monday, 19 November 2007 18:29 (sixteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...

"Liberals" are a funny lot. Just read the Christmas letter my boss is sending out to people we work with Asia and Africa, where she is at pains to point out that Christmas is basically a Pagan festival, she actually says at one point "...there aren't that many practising Christians left in the UK". She is one of those mythical people you read about but imagine don't really exist, who actually think it will offend people of other religions or cultures if you imply that Christmas has anything to do with Christianity.

Tom D., Tuesday, 11 December 2007 15:54 (sixteen years ago) link

Life's too short really...

Tom D., Tuesday, 11 December 2007 15:56 (sixteen years ago) link

Oh I figured she'd been around forever, it's just that her appearance is some sorta antimatter intersectionality of online retrograde fuckheaded horribleness.

Delbert Gravy (kingfish), Friday, 6 February 2015 20:04 (nine years ago) link

lol yeah, no-one, before the right got hold of the term, ever used 'politically correct' in a sincere, approving sense. This is why all in-group humour should be forbidden.

― sanctimonious uncontextualized linkdumps as an enlightmenment (Bananaman Begins), Wednesday, January 28, 2015 6:06 AM (1 week ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

spoken like a true stalinist!

FWIW i think the term "left-correct" was around within the left at least as long as "politically correct." again, it has an ironic charge, as in, "well, this idea may not be 'left-correct' (hewing the party line) but it's a good idea."

I dunno. (amateurist), Friday, 6 February 2015 21:20 (nine years ago) link

ok I did a search in the NYT from 1851.

1st mention of the term "politically correct" is from 1956, specifically from "Text of Speech on Stalin by Khrushchev as Released by the State Department." basically it's a key document of de-Stalinization from the USSR, with Kruschchev critiquing the "cult of personality" that had developed around Stalin. a fascinating read, actually.

but this lends credence to the idea that the term, in its American sense, was a reference to, and likely a parodying of, habits of the Old Left.

I dunno. (amateurist), Friday, 6 February 2015 21:26 (nine years ago) link

btw until 1990 the other uses of the term are all from the Cold War/Eastern Bloc context.

I dunno. (amateurist), Friday, 6 February 2015 21:27 (nine years ago) link

if the university social justice club ever gets stalin-like power i reserve the right to get worried

Mordy, Friday, 6 February 2015 21:30 (nine years ago) link

correction

that was the 1st mention of the phrase "political correctness"

the phrase 'politically correct" appears in a few stray places starting in the 1860s, but it's fairly random. it starts appearing more frequently in the mid-1950s, again, in the context of discussions of Russia and the Eastern Bloc countries.

I dunno. (amateurist), Friday, 6 February 2015 21:30 (nine years ago) link

what's the 1860 context?

Mordy, Friday, 6 February 2015 21:31 (nine years ago) link

stalin.gif

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 6 February 2015 21:31 (nine years ago) link

use of both terms EXPLODES in the 1990s btw, where it is suddenly being applied much more frequently to the American context..

I dunno. (amateurist), Friday, 6 February 2015 21:31 (nine years ago) link

"i need stalinism bc it triggers me when the kulaks get to keep their grain seed."

Mordy, Friday, 6 February 2015 21:32 (nine years ago) link

what's the 1860 context?

― Mordy, Friday, February 6, 2015 3:31 PM (36 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

actually, it's 1875.

headline: "FROM THE PACIFIC COAST.: SAN FRANCISCO INTERESTS, A SPECIALLY FAVORABLE SEASON--THE FEELING AGAINST CAPT. WADDELL AND THE PACIFIC MAIL DIRECTORY--STEINBERGER'S POPULARITY AMONG HIS HEATHEN SUBJECTS."

don't have time ATM to read entire article sorry, but here's the terrific opening lines:

After five weeks' rain, with scarcely one clear day, we have once more our glorious Winter weather, bright, sunny, clear, and an atmosphere just bracing enough to require a thin Fall overcoat, and that not needed if you are walking. Already the hill-sides are clothed in emerald hues, and the grateful bovine nippeth the tender grass and the festive dairyman sees signs of a fall in butter.

I dunno. (amateurist), Friday, 6 February 2015 21:33 (nine years ago) link

you make a lot of trigger jokes mordy what's up with that

Οὖτις, Friday, 6 February 2015 21:34 (nine years ago) link

the grateful bovine nippeth the tender grass and the festive dairyman sees signs of a fall in butter

journalism standards really have declined, I gotta say

Οὖτις, Friday, 6 February 2015 21:35 (nine years ago) link

xxp amateurist what's the line w/ the "pc" quote?

Mordy, Friday, 6 February 2015 21:38 (nine years ago) link

don't worry about it shakes

Mordy, Friday, 6 February 2015 21:40 (nine years ago) link

mordy, i'd have to read through the whole thing to find out! it's not text-searchable.

I dunno. (amateurist), Friday, 6 February 2015 21:43 (nine years ago) link

the grateful bovine nippeth the tender grass and the festive dairyman sees signs of a fall in butter

journalism standards really have declined, I gotta say

― Οὖτις, Friday, February 6, 2015 4:35 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

otm. I can't imagine any current reporting being mistaken for Jethro Tull lyrics.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 6 February 2015 21:44 (nine years ago) link

apparently i have access; i found it:

http://i57.tinypic.com/15pmvpe.png

also this gem:

http://i60.tinypic.com/2eg8kls.png

Mordy, Friday, 6 February 2015 21:47 (nine years ago) link

emoluments, he don't got any any

Οὖτις, Friday, 6 February 2015 21:52 (nine years ago) link

"He continued to destroy ships long after he was aware that the war was over. 'Like a boss,' our correspondent added."

I dunno. (amateurist), Friday, 6 February 2015 22:08 (nine years ago) link

lol

Οὖτις, Friday, 6 February 2015 22:09 (nine years ago) link

"Once again, it's the tail wagging the dog."

oi listen mate, shut up (dog latin), Friday, 13 February 2015 16:20 (nine years ago) link

Waddell was obv a bad loser.

Aimless, Friday, 13 February 2015 18:55 (nine years ago) link

So the idea is that if someone is derisively called "politically correct" presumably because they are unnecessarily touchy about things. This displays a lack of self-awareness because if you are upset about someone being PC then you are being unnecessarily touchy imo.

©Oz Quiz© (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 13 February 2015 19:02 (nine years ago) link

two years pass...

like ta shoot someone out of a Western canon, right into a busy intersectionality

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 8 August 2017 03:06 (six years ago) link

four years pass...

lol Morbs ^

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 24 August 2021 17:32 (two years ago) link


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