The Lex: C/D?

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But revelling in ignorance to the point of making it your schtick = dud in the extreme.

(ps I have met the Lex and he's a very nice chap and i really like him)

― ailsa (ailsa), Monday, 13 November 2006 13:10 (seventeen years ago) link

As Stevie admitted, some of us google when we notice an unfamiliar name. It's partially because I was quite insecure about my taste or writings. I always thought that I had to know as much as possible to justify my taste in music (or whatever else) (when I wrote about the subject). The Lex has taught me it isn't at all.

its never been about that insecurity for me - more a hunger to know and hear and understand more stuff.

― i am not a nugget (stevie), Monday, 13 November 2006 13:11 (seventeen years ago) link

Me too, I google when I don't know something and feel that I may like to, I don't go "I don't even know who you are therefore you are unimportant and quite probably rubbish" all over ILX whenever anyone from John Wayne to Peter Crouch to (pick indieboyswithguitarsofchoice) is mentioned.

― ailsa (ailsa), Monday, 13 November 2006 13:15 (seventeen years ago) link

I think to call "Paris Hilton is important" a meme is stretching a point at best

You haven't seen the plans I have for this exciting internet meme with massive viral potential!

― wordy rappaport (EstieButtez1), Monday, 13 November 2006 13:15 (seventeen years ago) link

PINELEX MORE LIKE

― 2 american 4 u (blueski), Monday, 13 November 2006 13:17 (seventeen years ago) link

But revelling in ignorance to the point of making it your schtick = dud in the extreme.
(ps I have met the Lex and he's a very nice chap and i really like him)
-- ailsa (ailsa.watso...),

Exactly how I feel. Well, I haven't met Lex, but he does seem to be a generally friendly person.

So i guess for me

Lex the individual = classic
Lex's "revelling in ignorance" = not so classic

― shorty (shorty), Monday, 13 November 2006 13:24 (seventeen years ago) link

Guys, berating somebody on the internet for supposedly being ignorant doesn't exactly make you yourself look like a genius.
I don't know The_Lex, I don't really notice him on ILX. I guess I post in different places. But I'm going to say he's CLASSIC so that this thread doesn't achieve what it seemingly set out to.

― teh_kit (g-kit), Monday, 13 November 2006 13:25 (seventeen years ago) link

Berating wasn't my intention. I apologize if that's how it came off.

I'd rather have a friend who I disagree with about pop culture but is a nice person, than one I agree with on everything under the sun but is an asshole.

― shorty (shorty), Monday, 13 November 2006 13:29 (seventeen years ago) link

Dude, pretending that 'on the internet' has a socially inept tinge to it hasn't been true any time this century.

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Monday, 13 November 2006 13:31 (seventeen years ago) link

That wasn't aimed at anyone in particular, just at the intentions of the thread in general.

Take out the "on the internet" part, my point still stands. I assure you I wasn't trying to imply social ineptitude. I just don't think threads that are entirely about "I think Poster X is an idiot, what do you think?" are particularly productive. The Lex is taking this very well, but if I were on the receiving end of something like this, I'd be rather upset.

― teh_kit (g-kit), Monday, 13 November 2006 13:36 (seventeen years ago) link

Me neither. And I qualified it by saying that I really like The Lex - he's intelligent and smart and could drink me under the table easily (no mean feat). I actually kind of admire his purist stance on "I haven't heard of you therefore I don't need to hear of you", but it can get a bit tiresome when pointed out all over the place. It's a schtick, and I'm almost convinced it lapsed into self-parody quite a while back, hence (sort of) fair game. Also, no-one actually dislikes him. No-one's actually being nasty except the thread-starter, and it seems to have stemmed from confusion as to Lex's role in the grand scheme of ILE. (The ironing of "I don't know who the Lex is, is he a troll" is great though)

― ailsa (ailsa), Monday, 13 November 2006 13:37 (seventeen years ago) link

I always wikipedia stuff I don't know, too - I don't think it's a generational thing, it's just a Lex thing. It annoys me when the lex-doesn't-know-stuff schtick gets in the way of any actual point he's making, though, cos it's dead easy to jump on the usual joke and ignore what might be a really interesting idea.

Obviously Lex is classic, but then why would I ever say otherwise?

― ampersand, hearts, semicolon (cis), Monday, 13 November 2006 13:41 (seventeen years ago) link

and I'm almost convinced it lapsed into self-parody quite a while back, hence (sort of) fair game.

Again Ailsa, exactly what I was trying to say but couldn't find the words (I need sleep).

― shorty (shorty), Monday, 13 November 2006 13:41 (seventeen years ago) link

xpost - Dude, in fairness there is rarely another point, it's quite common for him to disengage from argument by just saying "I don't know who that is".

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Monday, 13 November 2006 13:45 (seventeen years ago) link

its never been about that insecurity for me - more a hunger to know and hear and understand more stuff.

I wasn't implying this at all, just talking about myself. :-)

Who's to say it's self-parody? Maybe he's just consistent.

― Nathalie (stevie nixed), Monday, 13 November 2006 13:47 (seventeen years ago) link

Dude, pretending that 'on the internet' has a socially inept tinge to it hasn't been true any time this century.

-- Andrew Farrell (afarrel...), November 13th, 2006 1:31 PM. (afarrell) (link)

haha you've gotta be kidding

― ken c (ken c), Monday, 13 November 2006 13:48 (seventeen years ago) link

The Lex in person = classic. His schtick and reactions to it aren't that bad on ILX - I find its occasional* derailings of threads to be quite enjoyable/avoidable. There was a time when it was rendering every relevant discussion on LJ unreadable, though, which was a shame.

* NB I don't read ILM.

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Monday, 13 November 2006 13:50 (seventeen years ago) link

he's intelligent and smart and could drink me under the table easily (no mean feat).

Anyone care to bet on that?

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Monday, 13 November 2006 13:51 (seventeen years ago) link

The fact that he can still stand/move/speak/get home after several bottles of wine is more than I can do, usually.

(As explained, I have met him once. He was very drunk and still charming. I was very drunk and, erm, probably incoherent and gibbering).

― ailsa (ailsa), Monday, 13 November 2006 13:53 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, he's the ten drunkest people I've ever seen, no contest.

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Monday, 13 November 2006 13:55 (seventeen years ago) link

The fact that he can still stand/move/speak/get home after several bottles of wine

personal experience LOL

most threads ABOUT ILXors (there are many, esp. from the Olden Days, so Lex isn't really a special case in this regard) are overly positive.

― 2 american 4 u (blueski), Monday, 13 November 2006 13:56 (seventeen years ago) link

but i thought you don't drink..

xpost

― ken c (ken c), Monday, 13 November 2006 13:57 (seventeen years ago) link

maybe Matt DC is querying the "intelligent and smart" bit not the drinking bit

― Bidfurd (Bidfurd), Monday, 13 November 2006 13:58 (seventeen years ago) link

seems like a rad dude to me!

― i've dreamt of rubies! (Mandee), Monday, 13 November 2006 13:58 (seventeen years ago) link

stand/move/speak/get to steve's house/hork on the sofa

That's what makes me God's Own Umpire in this thing, Ken!

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Monday, 13 November 2006 13:59 (seventeen years ago) link

yeah but i mean like if anything YOU shouldn't be the one seeing TEN of the lex! :

Yeah, he's the ten drunkest people I've ever seen, no contest.

― ken c (ken c), Monday, 13 November 2006 14:06 (seventeen years ago) link

Sorry that this was seen as "nasty" in intent. Obviously I don't know the d00d personally, so I was only referring to the dude's itnernet (read:ILX) persona which it seems generally accepted here even amongst personal friends is "unproductive" and obtuse. Plus, that jackie chan line is pretty absurd, he's gotta be taking the piss there.

― richardk (Richard K), Monday, 13 November 2006 14:52 (seventeen years ago) link

This whole site is unproductive.

― Tom (Groke), Monday, 13 November 2006 15:04 (seventeen years ago) link

Damn right.

― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Monday, 13 November 2006 15:06 (seventeen years ago) link

it's better than yours

― The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 13 November 2006 15:08 (seventeen years ago) link

i could teach you but i'd have to charge

― The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 13 November 2006 15:08 (seventeen years ago) link

Tom still hungers for ILX's firstborn!

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Monday, 13 November 2006 15:12 (seventeen years ago) link

Mmm, sacrifice.

Anyway, the Lex = the classic, v. friendly online and in person and correctly dismissive of a lot of rubbish to boot. Together we will slay the dread shambling beast that is Chris Martin.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 13 November 2006 15:45 (seventeen years ago) link

who is chris martin?

― ken c (ken c), Monday, 13 November 2006 15:48 (seventeen years ago) link

# Dear ILX, please help The Lex stay off the computer (18578 new answers)

― hstencil (hstencil), Monday, 13 November 2006 15:49 (seventeen years ago) link

Richard, it seems to me that you've made a classic boyfriend mistake here, and slagged off some member of your girlfriend's family who she's always slagging off. Dangerous.

PS Teh Lex= v.good person. And now I know he's a bit of a fall down drinker, I can't wait to meet him.

― accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Monday, 13 November 2006 15:50 (seventeen years ago) link

/\ biggest noise board thread ever? (xpost)

― 2 american 4 u (blueski), Monday, 13 November 2006 15:51 (seventeen years ago) link

Yes, accentmonkey is one of the few who understand the seriousness of my above claim!

PS Also come to London anyway, accentmonkey!

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Monday, 13 November 2006 15:54 (seventeen years ago) link

YMOF finally OTM on this thread with that PS there.

― Tim (Tim), Monday, 13 November 2006 16:02 (seventeen years ago) link

AOK

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 13 November 2006 16:02 (seventeen years ago) link

I may have said this before, but posters on the Chicago thread know that I sometimes cultivate a Lex-like persona, which usually takes the form of the question, "Why would *I* know about such-and-such?" It's borne out of the same insecurity that Nathalie mentions above: when, in my desire to be conversant about all sorts of things, I confront a gaping hole in my knowledge, I often get frustrated and defensive.

If I also take The Lex to task for asking similar questions, though, it's because the people he's unfamiliar with are vastly better-known than the people I'm unfamiliar with. For instance, I'd never heard of the Little River Band until Amanda or Kenan mentioned them a few months ago, and I did the whole "Why would I have heard of a band that existed in the late 70s/early 80s if they're not considered canonical, don't have a radio hit that ever escaped the classic-rock ghetto, etc. etc." Whereas The Lex professes his ignorance of DAVID BYRNE and JACKIE CHAN, and yeah, Crouching Tiger is the only martial-arts film I've seen, too, but people talk about Jackie Chan all the time, he makes comedy appearances at awards shows (was it the 2000 Oscars where he presented alongside Kareem Abdul-Jabbar), his grinning mug is all over billboards whenever another Rush Hour movie comes out, etc.

It's like, I totally maintain that there are some things I shouldn't be expected to know, for various reasons -- but I've spent too long worrying about whether these deficiencies still make me equipped to write about music/culture that I guess it just bothers me when someone doesn't even seem to pay attention.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 13 November 2006 16:03 (seventeen years ago) link

xp NRBQ

― Tim (Tim), Monday, 13 November 2006 16:04 (seventeen years ago) link

The Lex's tennis fandom leaves the rest of us in the clay-court dust. There's no point even posting on those threads as he's got it all covered. Classic!

― Beth Parker (Beth Parker), Monday, 13 November 2006 16:08 (seventeen years ago) link

Jaymc: sometimes people pay attention in different ways thouugh, innit?

Like, my Dad goes through his life swearing blind he hasn't cone across this or that when I know he has, or at least this (and/or that) has been right in fromt of his face. It's just, he has an amazing talent to filter out stuff which he isn't thinking about at that given moment. In this regard (and this regard only) the Lex is perhaps a little like my Dad.

Annoyance seems an odd reaction to that (not that I'm suggesting that you're annoyed, but some certainly seem to be).

― Tim (Tim), Monday, 13 November 2006 16:09 (seventeen years ago) link

wtf jaymc you never heard of the little river band? you sure you grew up in the midwest?

― hstencil (hstencil), Monday, 13 November 2006 16:20 (seventeen years ago) link

Yep, I grew up in the Midwest, but a) I didn't start paying attention to music at all until 1990, and b) I've never really listened to classic-rock radio at all.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 13 November 2006 16:24 (seventeen years ago) link

PS Also come to London anyway, accentmonkey!

Alas, London brother number one has left the city to be a country mouse, and London brother number two lives with three comedians and they have no spare bedroom. So I have nowhere to stay in London any more.

― accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Monday, 13 November 2006 16:25 (seventeen years ago) link

jaymc you're missing out! you might even like the little river band. dude listen to the drive, great classic rock radio station, plays lots of deep cuts.

― hstencil (hstencil), Monday, 13 November 2006 16:34 (seventeen years ago) link

things like 'who is X (genuinely famous person well known to many people)?' annoy perhaps because it tends to come across as petulant defiant teenager/student-style snub (subsequently sort of an automatic diss to the famous person in question) rather than genuine curiosity to know (if it were the latter, it would surely be quietly googled). this may not always be the intention but that's how it might come across. it's not that big a deal really tho.

― 2 american 4 u (blueski), Monday, 13 November 2006 16:35 (seventeen years ago) link

he's a bit like nick southall

― pscott (elwisty), Monday, 13 November 2006 16:38 (seventeen years ago) link

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lex might as well be geir in terms of actual worth in trying to understand musical views. difference is lex is a good laugh and lots of fun as a human being and i don't know geir.
--I see what this is (Local Garda)

Having never met either, I prefer the automaton motorik consistency of the one to the slight randomizing attempts to humanize the autotune of the other

― under the pollcano (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 24 April 2011 02:28 (thirteen years ago) link

CLASSIC

― flopson, Sunday, 24 April 2011 07:11 (thirteen years ago) link

LEX IS ETERNAL

― flopson, Sunday, 24 April 2011 07:12 (thirteen years ago) link

i should get around to s-k one day

― banaka socka flame (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, September 14, 2010 11:08 PM (7 months ago) Bookmark

my friend that day is TODAY and you will start with THE WOODS and work your way backwards

― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Sunday, 24 April 2011 07:52 (thirteen years ago) link

one year passes...

Happy birthday lex!

― heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 30 August 2012 17:39 (eleven years ago) link

happy birthday to my favorite comedy act

― chicago rap twitter luminary (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 30 August 2012 19:18 (eleven years ago) link

smh

thx u guys

― lex pretend, Thursday, 30 August 2012 19:22 (eleven years ago) link

http://img.dazedcdn.com/700/dd/260/0/260666.jpg

HI. I'M BEN KLOCK. AND MY CHEEKBONES ARE HERE TO WISH LEX HAPPY BIRTHDAY.

― my god it's full of straw (White Chocolate Cheesecake), Thursday, 30 August 2012 19:29 (eleven years ago) link

why so sad, ben? it's lex's birthday

― mookieproof, Thursday, 30 August 2012 19:31 (eleven years ago) link

He is not sad. He is pining, soulfully, for Lex.

― my god it's full of straw (White Chocolate Cheesecake), Thursday, 30 August 2012 19:36 (eleven years ago) link

I like Ben just like that :D

― lex pretend, Thursday, 30 August 2012 19:42 (eleven years ago) link

four months pass...

hey lex, do u know ester rada? she's an ethiopian israeli r&b singer. her ep is here, i guess there's an lp expected later this year. curious what you think:
http://esterrada.bandcamp.com/album/life-happens-ep

― Mordy, Sunday, 20 January 2013 14:41 (eleven years ago) link

one year passes...

Another year of Lex!

― faghetti (fgti), Saturday, 30 August 2014 14:30 (nine years ago) link

happy birthday lex, keep up the good work

― Daphnis Celesta, Saturday, 30 August 2014 14:34 (nine years ago) link

As this latest ILX personality seems to hijack every thread I read with what I'm still not sure isn't trolling, I'm gonna say Happy Birthday.

― birdman junior dad (some dude), Saturday, 30 August 2014 14:53 (nine years ago) link

ffm forever

― markers, Saturday, 30 August 2014 15:28 (nine years ago) link

hb lex, keep hijackin those threads

― a spectrum is taunting ur OP (wins), Saturday, 30 August 2014 17:57 (nine years ago) link

nine months pass...

It seems like he hates most music.

― maybe/whatever/so what/boring (admrl), Tuesday, 9 June 2015 18:40 (eight years ago) link

most shit music

― Twee Speech and Crepey Literalism (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 9 June 2015 19:02 (eight years ago) link

oh right

― maybe/whatever/so what/boring (admrl), Tuesday, 9 June 2015 19:04 (eight years ago) link

always baffling to me when people are riled up by lex. i find his opprobrium at the very least entertaining even if i don't agree. he's good on music he likes, which is usually in places with like "3 new answers" or w/e so tends to be missed? idk

― bag lady bag (mattresslessness), Tuesday, 9 June 2015 19:30 (eight years ago) link

classic

― joked for the dadness (wins), Tuesday, 9 June 2015 19:33 (eight years ago) link

lex is classic I want to cook dinner for lex sometime

― jennifer islam (silby), Wednesday, 10 June 2015 05:58 (eight years ago) link

lex is classic

indie rockers be butthurt

― brimstead, Wednesday, 10 June 2015 06:15 (eight years ago) link

It seems like he hates most music.

― maybe/whatever/so what/boring (admrl), Tuesday, June 9, 2015 11:40 AM (11 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i know he's expressive and vehement when he hates something but c'mon this perception is so weird... do you ever check the bobbins thread or like r&b threads?

― brimstead, Wednesday, 10 June 2015 06:17 (eight years ago) link

i love music

― lex pretend, Wednesday, 10 June 2015 06:53 (eight years ago) link

have i even been hating on much recently? apart from pc music but obvvvvv that is utter trash

― lex pretend, Wednesday, 10 June 2015 06:53 (eight years ago) link

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