Lauryn Hill

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The sad thing is it really shouldn't be crazy for her to work her way into something new, or even to be a little demanding or ramshackle about the process -- there just seems to be some intense crazy involved in her sitting around for years doing it and shooting off in a million directions and getting worse and worse at what she could do before and just not getting anything worthwhile done. I mean, geez, she could be the biggest musical genius in the world -- it makes no difference if she can't get it together to finish anything.

nabisco, Friday, 29 June 2007 21:02 (sixteen years ago) link

Her new song "Lose Myself" is wonderful.

The Brainwasher, Friday, 29 June 2007 21:04 (sixteen years ago) link

Indeed.

The Reverend, Friday, 29 June 2007 21:09 (sixteen years ago) link

Lauryn Hill doing afro-pop/reggae-infused soul sounds like it should be really good.

Alex in SF, Friday, 29 June 2007 21:17 (sixteen years ago) link

huh that lose myself song is cool...different.

M@tt He1ges0n, Friday, 29 June 2007 21:35 (sixteen years ago) link

two years pass...

So...Ms. Lauryn Hill (billed as such) is playing at this hippie festival in Sonoma County. Coheadliners: Slightly Stoopid. 1-day pass: $35. Do I buy tickets? Could be an interesting meltdown or ACTUALLY AWESOME.

More more more ass we are all addicted to ass (Whitey on the Moon), Thursday, 3 June 2010 18:38 (thirteen years ago) link

She played here (as Sly & Robbie's singer!) a few months ago, and there didn't seem to be any outbreaks of lunacy reported.

Señor Communications Adviser (sic), Friday, 4 June 2010 00:29 (thirteen years ago) link

was she where bizarre clown makeup?

what it feels like for a goon (The Reverend), Friday, 4 June 2010 02:09 (thirteen years ago) link

where = wearing

what it feels like for a goon (The Reverend), Friday, 4 June 2010 02:10 (thirteen years ago) link

Jeeeeeeesus that line-up. Surprised these guys aren't playing:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQe4XVrJFGQ

Jamie_ATP, Friday, 4 June 2010 11:30 (thirteen years ago) link

six months pass...

What a pretentious jerk is Ms. Hill.

http://nyti.ms/ezt1T6

thirdalternative, Thursday, 30 December 2010 14:56 (thirteen years ago) link

It's astonishing, her self-righteousness. She was three hours late.

Gus Van Sotosyn (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 30 December 2010 14:59 (thirteen years ago) link

Going to see Lauryn Hill in 2010 is pretty much asking for it.

that's not funny. (unperson), Thursday, 30 December 2010 15:03 (thirteen years ago) link

nothing about that story surprises me at all

lex diamonds (lex pretend), Thursday, 30 December 2010 15:04 (thirteen years ago) link

To the crowd she was both thankful and indignantly apologetic. “I spent my entire 20s sacrificing my life to give you love. So when I hear people complain, I don’t know what to tell you,” she said. “I personally know I’m worth the wait.”

fuck OFF.

Gus Van Sotosyn (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 30 December 2010 15:07 (thirteen years ago) link

Any ILXORs there?

thirdalternative, Thursday, 30 December 2010 15:10 (thirteen years ago) link

hmm she apparently has a show booked in mpls and i was thinking of going

in my world of Hmong ppl (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 30 December 2010 15:12 (thirteen years ago) link

Don't do it

Indolence Mission (DJP), Thursday, 30 December 2010 15:25 (thirteen years ago) link

the article makes her seem sad and lost (tho she also seems reprehensible).

Daniel, Esq., Thursday, 30 December 2010 15:28 (thirteen years ago) link

saw her at rock the bells and it was pretty sad

predeep natsvitika (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 5 January 2011 04:48 (thirteen years ago) link

Wonder if the keyboard player's still in the band.

Kevin John Bozelka, Wednesday, 5 January 2011 06:05 (thirteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Um. See? Here's the thing. Having read all of those articles and live reviews, a bunch of my friends and I bought tickets to see her tonight in Montreal anyway. And I don't know what was different about today but it was astounding?

Doors at 9:30, DJ at 11, Lauryn took the stage just after midnight. The first couple songs were the refixes of older stuff - a metalled up version of Ex Factor, and then a smooth post-rock sort of take on it, an extended gospel-y When It Hurts So Bad, rawk take on Lost Ones, reggae version of Final Hour. The vocals were occasionally scratchy but mostly impeccable. To Zion, and then a big note-perfect Fugees flashback, which included a jammy How Many Mics?, Flamingos' "I Only Have Eyes For You" into Zealots, the O.G. Ready or Not and a reggae Fu-Gee-La and Killing Me Softly, and Turn Your Lights Down Low and Doo Wop to close.

She was in a pretty great mood the entire 2 hour set. Lots of crowd banter, lots of jokes with her band and with us. Seemed very thankful that we were there. Appreciative, even? Dancing and grooving and promised to come back soon.

So...maybe this was an anomaly, but if she can be like this more often, basically, Lauryn Hill is BACK so far as I'm concerned.

Alex in Montreal, Monday, 24 January 2011 08:21 (thirteen years ago) link

i think the ny times review was real positive, despite her being so late

chev rivera (stevie), Monday, 24 January 2011 08:28 (thirteen years ago) link

By all accounts her First Avenue show was fantastic--wish I'd been able to go. She hung out with fans and posed for photos afterward.

Pete Scholtes, Monday, 24 January 2011 15:21 (thirteen years ago) link

I think a lot of the complaints have to do with people like her drastically changed/funk-metal versions of her old shit or not. I went to Rock The Bells and was totally :D and everyone around me was o_O

alpaca bowl (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 24 January 2011 15:27 (thirteen years ago) link

i know someone - an old-skool r&b fan unlikely to be into anything like "funk-metal" - who went to her atl show and adored it.

lex diamonds (lex pretend), Monday, 24 January 2011 15:30 (thirteen years ago) link

gonna write a Twilight Zone spec script in which one day all music suddenly sounds like Infectious Grooves, and Whiney, the only happy man left on earth, has a bad ear infection and loses his hearing

trv kvnt (some dude), Monday, 24 January 2011 15:35 (thirteen years ago) link

~makes u think~

zvookster, Monday, 24 January 2011 15:36 (thirteen years ago) link

lol not a rapper being late to go on stage. i am outraged and will write an article about it! never in my life have i seen such disrespect!

supply 'n d-man (a hoy hoy), Monday, 24 January 2011 15:43 (thirteen years ago) link

fuck that tho

at least be ballpark

so sick of shitty rap shows, could not take funk-metal versions of songs i knew otherwise

zvookster, Monday, 24 January 2011 15:45 (thirteen years ago) link

i still kind of want to present erykah badu with a bill for the cumulative hours she's kept me waiting for sundry shows and interviews - definitely comes to over a working day's worth by now

lex diamonds (lex pretend), Monday, 24 January 2011 15:46 (thirteen years ago) link

next time you see her lex, ask her what 333 means plz...

amphetamine enhanced scholar (Drugs A. Money), Monday, 24 January 2011 15:48 (thirteen years ago) link

333?

lex diamonds (lex pretend), Monday, 24 January 2011 15:56 (thirteen years ago) link

sorry, seemed when Badu was doing a lot of her NuAmerykah (1 or 2?) promotional stuff, the numbers '33' & '333' came up a lot...seemed kind of intentional at the time..?

sorry bout that--thx anywayz <333

amphetamine enhanced scholar (Drugs A. Money), Monday, 24 January 2011 15:59 (thirteen years ago) link

oh yeah i remember now, she kept tweeting about 3.33am or something. ok it's not like i see her regularly but if i ever get to speak to her again i'll ask!

lex diamonds (lex pretend), Monday, 24 January 2011 16:01 (thirteen years ago) link

right on =)

amphetamine enhanced scholar (Drugs A. Money), Monday, 24 January 2011 16:02 (thirteen years ago) link

three months pass...

"No musical artist has ever shown as much contempt for their audience as Lauryn Hill."

http://www.thestranger.com/seattle/scold-yeller/Content?oid=8194382

thirdalternative, Wednesday, 18 May 2011 21:34 (twelve years ago) link

wait waht?

excitebikable boy (Drugs A. Money), Wednesday, 18 May 2011 21:48 (twelve years ago) link

public fugees ltd

the first rule of debate club (Edward III), Wednesday, 18 May 2011 21:51 (twelve years ago) link

that article OTM

I HAVE ISSUES (DJP), Wednesday, 18 May 2011 21:56 (twelve years ago) link

tbh I really think the great show/terrible show has absolutely nothing to do with the music Lauryn decides to play and everything to do with whether or not she is on her meds

I HAVE ISSUES (DJP), Wednesday, 18 May 2011 21:58 (twelve years ago) link

fair nuff

excitebikable boy (Drugs A. Money), Wednesday, 18 May 2011 22:12 (twelve years ago) link

dan otm

You made the right choice, Deanne... (stevie), Thursday, 19 May 2011 07:21 (twelve years ago) link

that article OTM

jho'sh? "ice cr?m" jackson (The Reverend), Thursday, 19 May 2011 07:44 (twelve years ago) link

it's really difficult for me to have any hard feelings against her because i listened to "ms hill" by talib so many times before i heard anything negative and i'd rather believe his take

tho watching her on fallon right now and, having no other performances to compare her too, she pretty out of it and spastic

more fish for kunta (zachlyon), Friday, 20 May 2011 07:52 (twelve years ago) link

*she seems

more fish for kunta (zachlyon), Friday, 20 May 2011 07:53 (twelve years ago) link

one year passes...

What an entitled jerk she is:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/08/lauryn-hill-responds-nj-tax-evasion-charges_n_1582464.html

Lauryn Hill Responds To Tax Evasion Charges

06/08/12 08:05 PM ET AP

NEWARK, N.J. — Reclusive singer Lauryn Hill said in an Internet posting Friday that she hasn't paid taxes since she withdrew from society to guarantee the safety and well-being of herself and her family.

The eight-time Grammy Award winner and South Orange, N.J., resident was charged this week with willfully failing to file income tax returns with the Internal Revenue Service. Federal prosecutors said she didn't pay taxes on more than $1.5 million earned in 2005, 2006 and 2007 from recording and film royalties.

Hill responded to the federal charges in a lengthy post on her Tumblr page Friday. She described how she has rejected pop culture's "climate of hostility, false entitlement, manipulation, racial prejudice, sexism and ageism."

"Over-commercialization and its resulting restrictions and limitations can be very damaging and distorting to the inherent nature of the individual," Hill wrote. "I did not deliberately abandon my fans, nor did I deliberately abandon any responsibilities, but I did however put my safety, health and freedom and the freedom, safety and health of my family first over all other material concerns! I also embraced my right to resist a system intentionally opposing my right to whole and integral survival."

She said in her online post that she explained herself to authorities when she was questioned by authorities about her failure to pay taxes.

"My intention has always been to get this situation rectified. When I was working consistently without being affected by the interferences mentioned above, I filed and paid my taxes," she wrote. "This only stopped when it was necessary to withdraw from society, in order to guarantee the safety and well-being of myself and my family."

A spokeswoman for the U.S. Attorney's Office for New Jersey, which filed the tax charges, said in response to Hill's posting Friday that they could not speak to the specifics of the investigation.

The 37-year-old Hill got her start with the Haitian-American hip-hop band the Fugees. She began her solo career in 1998 with the critically acclaimed album "The Miseducation of Lauryn Hill."

thirdalternative, Monday, 11 June 2012 16:14 (eleven years ago) link

Ugh.

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Monday, 11 June 2012 16:17 (eleven years ago) link

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here's to another seven years of calling black women crazy!

Impetuous hybrid (Matt P), Monday, 11 June 2012 16:18 (eleven years ago) link

Wonder if she's a Rangers fan

it looks like something rupert the bear would wear (Algerian Goalkeeper), Monday, 11 June 2012 16:20 (eleven years ago) link

(thread title pisses me off more than any other on ilx and really should be changed)

lex pretend, Thursday, 21 August 2014 12:43 (nine years ago) link

Yeah, this one and "Courtney Love - Cash Cow or Evil Bitch" are pretty rank.

how's life, Thursday, 21 August 2014 12:53 (nine years ago) link

yeah if I wanted to see women excoriated and insulted en masse i'd open a tennis thread

rip van wanko, Thursday, 21 August 2014 13:03 (nine years ago) link

Yeah, sorry about that. Change away. Been a few years.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 21 August 2014 13:10 (nine years ago) link

The floor is open for suggestions.

how's life, Thursday, 21 August 2014 13:14 (nine years ago) link

lex otm

marcos, Thursday, 21 August 2014 13:40 (nine years ago) link

Lauryn Hill Practically Perfect in Every Way

Οὖτις, Thursday, 21 August 2014 19:56 (nine years ago) link

How about just "Lauryn Hill" please that way we could leave out the virgin/whore complex entirely.

mattresslessness, Thursday, 21 August 2014 20:06 (nine years ago) link

wait where does "crazy" fall on the virgin/whore axis I am confused

Οὖτις, Thursday, 21 August 2014 20:51 (nine years ago) link

somewhere between "literal-minded" and "specious gendered character judgments are the Same Bad Things"

mattresslessness, Thursday, 21 August 2014 20:56 (nine years ago) link

bump

curmudgeon, Friday, 29 August 2014 04:47 (nine years ago) link

it's sort of infuriating to see the threads that are getting 100 new answers right now while no one cares about this song

lex pretend, Friday, 29 August 2014 14:14 (nine years ago) link

i think the lyrics are very powerful and i love lauryn hill but there's not much that can revive "my favorite things" for me today except for maybe coltrane

marcos, Friday, 29 August 2014 14:16 (nine years ago) link

i remember thinking the same of "killing me softly" once upon a time

not sure what to say abt "black rage", lex, other than that it's quite moving. love the background ambience, kids voices & such, that froggy bass tone, the way her voice breaks on "denial of selves". would love to hear a more fully developed version, but the intimacy of the sketch would likely be lost.

Adding ease. Adding wonder. Adding (contenderizer), Friday, 29 August 2014 14:27 (nine years ago) link

An ilxer reviewed it for Pitchfork and its on Pitchfork's best tracks list for 2014. Maybe if someone talks about it on a Pitchfork thread it will get more attention

curmudgeon, Friday, 29 August 2014 15:13 (nine years ago) link

I got bored about halfway through

Οὖτις, Friday, 29 August 2014 16:18 (nine years ago) link

it's sort of infuriating to see the threads that are getting 100 new answers right now while no one cares about this song

are you seriously bummed that the feebs of ilm aren't dribbling their "insight" all over this great track? it doesn't matter.

you couldn't even wear a fedora if your lifes depended on it (stevie), Friday, 29 August 2014 17:38 (nine years ago) link

yeah I'm sure glad those feebs aren't here

SEEMS TO ME (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 29 August 2014 18:01 (nine years ago) link

endless permutations of lol she is crazy get a dude down

you couldn't even wear a fedora if your lifes depended on it (stevie), Friday, 29 August 2014 18:07 (nine years ago) link

all I'm saying is you can have a perfectly nice thread without looking askance at all the people who AREN'T posting

SEEMS TO ME (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 29 August 2014 18:09 (nine years ago) link

still think this is her most slept on post-miseducation track https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LN8wDMtJrM

you couldn't even wear a fedora if your lifes depended on it (stevie), Friday, 29 August 2014 18:09 (nine years ago) link

six years pass...

Because I'm doing remote supply/substitute for a grade 6 class today, and I was looking for some birthdays to commemorate, I can tell you that Lauryn Hill is 46 and Stevie Nicks is 73.

clemenza, Wednesday, 26 May 2021 14:31 (two years ago) link

one year passes...

i’m halfway through “jerusalem” and good fucking god the unplugged album is terrible so far. but apparently it was therapeutic for her so that makes it ok.

Mr. Snrub, Tuesday, 19 July 2022 19:02 (one year ago) link

mr. snide

estela, Wednesday, 20 July 2022 20:19 (one year ago) link

tbf it isn't very good.

I remember loving it at the time, but my dad had just died and I was in the market for something so anguished and ready to bleed. I don't have any inclination to hear it now, and tbh a number of her subsequent concerts, which have veered from moments of inspiration among waves of dross and, well, unbroken waves of dross, have eaten up my tolerance for her, though a friend was recently raving about a Nina Simone tribute record she was involved with.

politics is about vibes and the vibes are off (stevie), Wednesday, 20 July 2022 21:22 (one year ago) link

i'm halfway through a mr snrub revive and good fucking god it's terrible so far. but apparently it was therapeutic for him so that makes it ok.

the cat needs to start paying for its own cbd (map), Thursday, 21 July 2022 00:41 (one year ago) link


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