but perhaps a lot easier to write about
― acrobat, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 11:02 (sixteen years ago) link
Definitely. They had the whole 'first download #1' thing as well as being ex-celeb / trendy producer.
― Scik Mouthy, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 11:03 (sixteen years ago) link
not easier to write about either, unless you need a gimmicky angle entirely unrelated to the music in order to profile an artist
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 11:09 (sixteen years ago) link
and i'm aware that many do need this hook, but that's not my problem, and nor should it be yours
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 11:10 (sixteen years ago) link
sure, i agree but as you say lots of writing does work this way. it's the paris/jarvis thing, the press often needs a gimmick to get in. i don't how this stuff works, is this to do with how articles are pitched?
― acrobat, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 11:16 (sixteen years ago) link
it deserves to be number one for this long.
― titchyschneiderMk2, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 11:23 (sixteen years ago) link
okay maybe not 9 weeks - it doesnt mean much beyond being a great song, but maybe thats enough these days.
― titchyschneiderMk2, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 11:24 (sixteen years ago) link
"http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/music/2007/07/why_i_still_love_rihannas_umbr.html"
thats one of the worst pics of rihanna ive seen.
― titchyschneiderMk2, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 11:47 (sixteen years ago) link
That eh eh eh bit of Umbrella unfortunately reminds me of the eh eh eh bit in Zombie by the cranberries, after which there's no hope for the song.
I miss CD UK and TotP. It is like chart pop is another genre that you have to keep up with, rather than just being the default that's always there.
― Jamie T Smith, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 14:12 (sixteen years ago) link
Now that strikes me as a very salient point. What's chart pop's presence on mainstream TV now? There isn't really any, is there?
― Scik Mouthy, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 14:18 (sixteen years ago) link
Gentrification, "Coffee Table", the 90s, Broadsheets, False Consensus and "The New Punk Rock"
― acrobat, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 14:52 (sixteen years ago) link
I keep reading this thread title as "the charts are staggering again" and thinking Britney was spotted drunk or something.
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 15:19 (sixteen years ago) link
No One Admits To Singing, Writing, Producing Nation's No. 1 Song
― darin, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 15:32 (sixteen years ago) link
landslide win for NRQ and his ping pongs
waht
― That one guy that hit it and quit it, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 15:37 (sixteen years ago) link
what are your 11 favourite songs of the moment, fuck
― blueski, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 15:40 (sixteen years ago) link
i think 'my love' is less likeable than 'umbrella'. i think it's a sad thing that cynical bullshit like 'don't feel like dancing' is deemed more family-friendly now. 'umbrella' is the only actual song out of the ones acrobat named. do people no longer value that?
― That one guy that hit it and quit it, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 15:40 (sixteen years ago) link
grace jones 'pull up to the bumper' (12") prince 'i feel for you' ciara 'oh' rihanna 'umbrella' television 'see no evil' nico 'i'll keep it with mine' bass-o-matic 'fascinating rhythm' ... oh BOTHERED
― That one guy that hit it and quit it, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 15:45 (sixteen years ago) link
Ban That one guy that hit it and quit it.
― 597, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 15:46 (sixteen years ago) link
Ban Don Derun.
― Mark G, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 15:47 (sixteen years ago) link
good effort brau
― blueski, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 15:56 (sixteen years ago) link
typing out most recently played off itunes is not what ilx is for.
― That one guy that hit it and quit it, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 15:58 (sixteen years ago) link
if i MUST discuss popular music with you year after year it helps to establish occasionally an understanding of your preferences in the contemporary domain of said medium.
― blueski, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 16:00 (sixteen years ago) link
i basically have a preference for things i hear and like. fortunately most bands do something to piss me off before i need to hear them. this saves time.
― That one guy that hit it and quit it, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 16:11 (sixteen years ago) link
i basically have a preference for things i hear and like
illuminating
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 16:31 (sixteen years ago) link
18 weeks - Frankie Laine, I Believe (1953) 16 weeks - Bryan Adams, (Everything I Do) I Do It For You (1991) 15 weeks - Wet Wet Wet, Love Is All Around (1994) 11 weeks - Slim Whitman, Rose Marie (1955) 10 weeks - David Whitfield, Cara Mia (1954) 10 weeks - Whitney Houston, I Will Always Love You (1992)
Source: Official UK Charts Company
ella, ella, ella, ey-ey-ey
― pisces, Sunday, 22 July 2007 22:12 (sixteen years ago) link
7 weeks at number 1 for Mark Ronson in the Uk.
― piscesx, Monday, 2 February 2015 23:37 (nine years ago) link
8 long weeks for Drake at number 1. 8 weeks!? longest run for a single in 9 years.
― piscesx, Monday, 6 June 2016 11:18 (seven years ago) link
How does it go?
― Mark G, Monday, 6 June 2016 11:48 (seven years ago) link
I can't remember the last time I paid attention to the charts... probably about 10 years ago or something. I always took more notice of the album chart, too.
― Turrican, Monday, 6 June 2016 18:16 (seven years ago) link
It's been a minute for me, too. Are Wilson Phillips and Boyz II Men still a thing?
― What's Your Definition of a Dirty Baby? (Old Lunch), Monday, 6 June 2016 18:20 (seven years ago) link
they're triple dating.
― De La Soul is no Major Lazer (ulysses), Monday, 6 June 2016 18:27 (seven years ago) link
did "the sign" finally fall off the charts?
― hypnic jerk (rushomancy), Monday, 6 June 2016 19:35 (seven years ago) link
There's a special hell somewhere where that fucking Bryan Adams song is still number one, I'm sure.
― Turrican, Monday, 6 June 2016 23:30 (seven years ago) link
this is nuts
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-36794105
Drake's single only topped the sales-only chart in the first three weeks of its reign. It's only the inclusion of streaming data (where 100 plays count as one sale) that has given him a lock on the number one spot. And that's something that's starting to worry the music industry, because now that the charts measure consumption rather than purchases, they have practically ground to a halt.
In the first six months of 2016, there were 86 new entries in the UK singles chart. Ten years ago, that figure was 230.
― piscesx, Sunday, 17 July 2016 20:00 (seven years ago) link
I noticed the other week that the top eight singles in the UK didn't change (not even order) over two weeks, which is... strange.
― boxedjoy, Sunday, 17 July 2016 20:27 (seven years ago) link
ten years ago the number of new entries only spending one week on the chart was probably also super high, so no use pretending the chart was problem-free then either. even 'big' hits would frequently enter at their peak and spend a pitifully short time in the top 10 for the majority of the digital music era until recently.
it's pretty common for the industry to have to adjust how it works its product after the charts undergo semi-radical methodological revisions. when soundscan and broadcast data systems numbers were first implemented for the hot 100 in 1991, the main finding was that, on the radio and retail sides, the strongest hits were both breaking much faster and sticking around much longer than would have been reflected by the old survey-based methodology. in order to keep 'playing the charts' as an effective means of marketing singles, some in the industry tried a bizarre series of strategies to try to manipulate the new methodology in their favor. others realized they could market songs to radio, and their parent albums to consumers, without the assistance of singles retail whatsoever. the result was that the hot 100 was both more and less representative of the current state of pop singles consumption for the greater part of the entire 1990s decade. by the time things were 'figured out' (around 1999) and the charts started seeing decent turnaround of singles that were actually popular, not just popular because labels wanted them to appear as such, the singles retail market was in its death throes due to the combination of unsustainable strategies the labels had assumed during those years.
i think this time around the industry won't have to bumble around as long to figure it out. or at least i hope. (they may very well kill the digital downloads market, though. r.i.p. itunes!)
― dyl, Sunday, 17 July 2016 22:40 (seven years ago) link
Ed Sheeran. Number 1 AND 2 for 5 weeks straight.
― piscesx, Friday, 10 February 2017 21:39 (seven years ago) link
His music's always been piss and shit, tbf.
― Working night & day, I tried to stay awake... (Turrican), Friday, 10 February 2017 21:40 (seven years ago) link
Interesting thread here:
In a fitting end to the 2010s, Jeff Bezos is responsible for the last Number 1 Single of the year, Ellie Goulding's "River" (by Joni Mitchell).Here's how:1. You can't find it on Spotify, Apple, Google.2. That's because - aside from Youtube - it's Amazon exclusive.and...— dan barker (@danbarker) December 28, 2019
― groovypanda, Sunday, 29 December 2019 22:48 (four years ago) link
wow, hadn't heard anything about that! Crazy story!
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 30 December 2019 02:25 (four years ago) link
it was posted in the system glitch thread
― dyl, Monday, 30 December 2019 04:03 (four years ago) link
https://www.billboard.com/charts/decade-end/hot-rock-songs
― j., Monday, 30 December 2019 05:34 (four years ago) link
that's pretty grim. i can only handle about four of the top twenty.
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 30 December 2019 05:38 (four years ago) link