Oudists: S/D

When I talked with him (Rahim, not Christgau) in person once, he seemed pretty bored with the Smithsonian recording I was heaping praise on earlier. He's much more interested in doing something that is somehow new. Still, I don't hear anything else he's done as all that experimental. I'm not sure what to make of that. Possibly he has trouble breaking out of the classical tradition in which is so highly trained; but on the other hand, lacking music theory, I may simply not hear what's going on that is different in some of other recordings.

There's actually quite a bit of discussion of theory and scale in the Signal to Noise piece I mentioned, and from the sound of it he found it an interesting challenge (probably for the very reasons you mentioned) with the Little Earth performers to see where such training and those of his collaborators didn't easily mesh.

A generous selection of solo Riad El Sonbaty music available on Spotify, which is just what the doctor ordered for today. Maybe if I had listened to this first I would not have gone off at my Democratic partisan hack older brother.

Moron.

I should listen to him and to Rahim Alhaj tonight. Don't know oud music well but like various players I have heard over the years

The Muscat Oud Festival recordings are available on Spotify. Overall, this is an incredible collection. I don't have much to say at the moment since it's been a while since I've listened to it (more to do with my current audio set up than a lack of interest), but I talked it up when it first came out.

http://open.spotify.com/album/4U0TybPA9EZjWv0qm3hCn8

Here's what I posted earlier on this thread, which is how I remember this set:

The first two discs of this box set, Al Tarab: Muscat Ud Festival, are exquisite. Unfortunately, the pieces for oud and orchestra together, which make up about half of the third disc and all of the fourth disc, aren't so exquisite.

Here's sund4r on an Ahmed Fathi track from this compilation, one which famously placed in a low turnout ILM EOY track poll:

I love "La Tisafir" and it probably is my favourite single track of the year but I don't feel like I know enough about oud music that I'm totally comfortable commenting on it. What knocks me out is the oud-only section beginning around 1:35 which alternates rapid strumming of thick chords with melodic commentary, building in intensity. It reminds me of things I love in some South American classical guitar music as well as in some rock music. This is where I start to feel like a dope but the sonority he hits around 2:10 reminds me of early Sonic Youth and post-Branca no wave in a way, just with more going on in the rhythm and intricate melodies. And then he goes back to the memorable main vocal tune (I want to describe the delivery as 'soulful,' heaven help me, and I feel like a dope again) and gorgeous elaborate rippling melodic commentary.

(Why would it be good if the poll had so many more participants that a track like this would get forgotten?)

― sund4r, Tuesday, May 1, 2007 9:12 PM (6 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I just read that and it seems unsatisfyingly clinical. The track feels yearning, intense, and beautifully intricate.

― sund4r, Tuesday, May 1, 2007 9:14 PM (6 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

***Put Ya Hands Up for the 2006 ILX TRACKS POLL RESULTS***

The Simon Shaheen interview from 2003 is still available (on Web Archive) and still a fascinating read - http://web.archive.org/web/20030818015403/http://www.afropop.org/multi/interview/ID/39/Simon%20Shaheen%20on%20the%20oud

My first oudist was Waed Bouhassoun from Syria, from hearing her live concert for Radio France Musique from September 2015 - http://www.francemusique.fr/player/resource/106453-118451 - the concert starts @ 3:00 mins and is available online until Jun 2018

Not sure how Bouhassoun compares to anyone else, but it's a really hypnotic sound, just oud and voice. (More info on the program page.)

*Shaheen

A fair amount of oud in this great movie doc:

http://theconversation.com/on-the-banks-of-the-tigris-a-documentary-that-traces-the-forgotten-history-of-iraqi-music-47260

Mohamed el-Qasabgi (I assume):

https://youtu.be/E54u766R3fA?t=8m11s

Love that oud sound even though I don't know much about it.

Reposting without the link errors this time:

Simon Shaheen on the oud (2003) good interview
- http://web.archive.org/web/20101228042512/http://www.afropop.org/multi/interview/ID/39/Simon+Shaheen+on+t

Waed Bouhassoun – Heritage Days: Concert of Traditional Music / Tribute to Syrian Cultural Heritage
- https://www.francemusique.fr/emissions/programme-special/journees-du-patrimoine-concert-de-musiques-traditionnelles-hommage-au-patrimoine-culturel-syrien-12932

^ This French radio concert is still online (Music starts @ 3:00 mins in the show). From the blurb:
"Waed Bouhassoun (voice & oud), with her poetic, intense and personal presence while remaining closer to the spirit of her country's music, we will share this program that she titled 'The soul of the lute'."

And random clips

Simon Shaheen & Rima Khcheich
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9WHeKntZq4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-wS9e1KFhY

Bouhassoun was interviewed (with flutist Naïssam Jalal) about how Syrian musicians have coped with the destruction in their country:

- https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=fr&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.franceculture.fr%2Femissions%2Flactualite-musicale%2Fsyrie-que-faire-quand-est-musicien / (Original in French)