quiddities and agonies of the ruling class - a rolling new york times thread

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12. Can I still access NYTimes.com articles through Facebook, Twitter, Google or my blog? Back to top
Yes. We encourage links from Facebook, Twitter, search engines, blogs and social media. When you visit NYTimes.com through a link from one of these channels, that article (or video, slide show, etc.) will count toward your monthly limit of 20 free articles, but you will still be able to view it even if you've already read your 20 free articles.

dmr, Monday, 21 March 2011 21:50 (thirteen years ago) link

makes sense when you think about it.

Matt Armstrong, Monday, 21 March 2011 23:45 (thirteen years ago) link

didya catch this Mag feature of Gore Vidal talking about the pulp mysteries he wrote?

After “The City and the Pillar,” which was a cheery tale of two boys who were in love with each other, Orville Prescott of The New York Times, a very distinguished newspaper of yesteryear, said that he would never review a book by me, much less read one. And he said that to Nicholas Wreden, who was the head of E.P. Dutton, who was my publisher. I said, “Can’t we get him up on charges?” And he said, “No, The Times is always like this,” and I said, “Well, the sooner they are out of business the better.” I hope I step on no toes there, but it is a kind of lousy paper and deserves everything that is coming its way.

And that is an opinion that you hold to this day?

I see no reason to change it.

Fuck bein' hard, Dr Morbz is complicated (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 22 March 2011 00:16 (thirteen years ago) link

gore vidal is 85

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 22 March 2011 00:18 (thirteen years ago) link

one of his many virtues!

Fuck bein' hard, Dr Morbz is complicated (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 22 March 2011 00:19 (thirteen years ago) link

did anyone else get anything like this?

http://www.businessinsider.com/nyt-lincoln-paywall-free-2011-3

j., Tuesday, 22 March 2011 18:00 (thirteen years ago) link

i got it

caek, Tuesday, 22 March 2011 20:27 (thirteen years ago) link

Yes. We encourage links from Facebook, Twitter, search engines, blogs and social media.

Meanwhile they're trying to get @freenyt shut down...

reggaeton for the painfully alone (polyphonic), Tuesday, 22 March 2011 20:29 (thirteen years ago) link

xp i don't know if it's connected to the fact that i used to have free nyt select access through my academic email address or something?

caek, Tuesday, 22 March 2011 20:29 (thirteen years ago) link

I need to double-check, but I swear I got an email saying I get unlimited online access since I get the Sunday nytimes? I need to check how much I'm paying, but I think that's actually cheaper than their online-only deals, wtf.

mh, Tuesday, 22 March 2011 20:40 (thirteen years ago) link

since they would have to be idiots to think this will make me buy (or afford) a lincoln, i figured it must have something to do with targeting people who are likely to spread around links to times stories in somehow the right way, and act as free advertising to entice other people to subscribe. i don't think i ever even had times select, though i did pay for crossword access once.

j., Tuesday, 22 March 2011 20:54 (thirteen years ago) link

a 7 day print subscription is cheper than the online only deals!

caek, Tuesday, 22 March 2011 21:21 (thirteen years ago) link

stopped clock telling the right time here: http://daringfireball.net/2011/03/pricing_should_be_simple

Both companies also have legacy businesses. Netflix’s legacy business is home delivery of DVD and Blu-ray discs. Pricing for this service starts at $2/month in addition to the basic $8/month plan. It makes sense: every Netflix customer gets a digital subscription; those that want a physical product too pay a little more. The pricing steers people toward a digital-only future.

The New York Times’s legacy business is the printed newspaper. They charge less for a print subscription than an all-inclusive digital subscription, despite the fact that all print subscriptions include an all-inclusive digital subscription. This makes no sense. You pay less but get something that intuitively bears a significant real cost: hundreds of pounds of printed newspaper delivered to your home throughout the year. The pricing steers people toward the legacy business.

caek, Tuesday, 22 March 2011 21:22 (thirteen years ago) link

that's kind of a total lie, because the nytimes is notorious for publishing "introductory rates" and then jacking them up after a brief period. they also bury the actual billing cost way down in the system

mh, Tuesday, 22 March 2011 21:22 (thirteen years ago) link

otm, my weekend only paper subscription is more than an online sub will be.

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Tuesday, 22 March 2011 21:23 (thirteen years ago) link

http://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebate/2011/03/21/rising-wealth-inequality-should-we-care

hey lets have a debate about income inequality and invite only rich white academics

gr8080, Wednesday, 23 March 2011 00:09 (thirteen years ago) link

haha it just makes the title ("Rising Wealth Inequality: Should We Care?") even more poignant

max, Wednesday, 23 March 2011 00:10 (thirteen years ago) link

Poor People: Should We Do Something About That, or?

max, Wednesday, 23 March 2011 00:10 (thirteen years ago) link

that is a humdinger of a headline

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 23 March 2011 00:11 (thirteen years ago) link

i mean

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 23 March 2011 00:11 (thirteen years ago) link

jjjjjjjjfc

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 23 March 2011 00:11 (thirteen years ago) link

Why Rock the Boat?
Lisa Keister

^^^ lisa really tapping into the ny times "room for debate" soul here

max, Wednesday, 23 March 2011 00:13 (thirteen years ago) link

"We Feel Rich Enough"
Scott Winship

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 23 March 2011 00:14 (thirteen years ago) link

That's really an Onion person on the street infographic, right?

phantoms from a world gone by speak again the immortal tale: (Jenny), Wednesday, 23 March 2011 00:27 (thirteen years ago) link

RIGHT?

phantoms from a world gone by speak again the immortal tale: (Jenny), Wednesday, 23 March 2011 00:27 (thirteen years ago) link

why rock the boat when i might fall out and drown in money?

ice cr?m, Wednesday, 23 March 2011 00:34 (thirteen years ago) link

A Mix of Volatile Attitudes About My Mountain of Pure Gold

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 23 March 2011 00:35 (thirteen years ago) link

cake: should we let them eat it?

Matt Armstrong, Wednesday, 23 March 2011 00:36 (thirteen years ago) link

keeping envy lolcal

r u levelled up? (Lamp), Wednesday, 23 March 2011 00:37 (thirteen years ago) link

After all, why rock the boat when things could be worse?

hm

brownie, Wednesday, 23 March 2011 00:37 (thirteen years ago) link

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brownie, Wednesday, 23 March 2011 00:37 (thirteen years ago) link

http://www.cccoe.k12.ca.us/bats/

buzza, Wednesday, 23 March 2011 00:38 (thirteen years ago) link

ok actual lol

r u levelled up? (Lamp), Wednesday, 23 March 2011 00:39 (thirteen years ago) link

In terms of income, the gap between rich and middle class is growing, but in terms of happiness it is relatively low by broader historical standards.

Matt Armstrong, Wednesday, 23 March 2011 00:39 (thirteen years ago) link

These are those people who are poor because they make less than 2 million, right?

mh, Wednesday, 23 March 2011 00:40 (thirteen years ago) link

these days rich people are not even permitted to enslave poor people for instance

ice cr?m, Wednesday, 23 March 2011 00:40 (thirteen years ago) link

i hire a manservant to rock the boat, if you know what i mean

brownie, Wednesday, 23 March 2011 00:42 (thirteen years ago) link

poor people are so happy now that it's not even that rewarding to enslave them, for instance as a way of feeling one's powerfulness

j., Wednesday, 23 March 2011 00:43 (thirteen years ago) link

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lihkf1qRm91qgolc4.png

ice cr?m, Wednesday, 23 March 2011 14:52 (thirteen years ago) link

I know a libertarian who always responds to the decline in real wages and increasing wage gap with a line about 'technological advances render that moot' - so those stats are irrelevant because workers may work longer and struggle more, but they have Blu Ray players.

Libertarians really are the most disgusting savages...

boots get knocked from here to czechoslovakier (milo z), Wednesday, 23 March 2011 15:08 (thirteen years ago) link

It's true, it's moot to make more than a certain amount because you're drinking the same Coca-Cola and watching the same Blu-Ray discs so we might as well cap your income.

sarcasdick (mh), Wednesday, 23 March 2011 15:33 (thirteen years ago) link

Libertarians really are the most disgusting savages...

OTM, but congrats to them on finding a political philosophy that neatly dignifies being a self-serving asshole.

Pop is superior to all other genres (DL), Wednesday, 23 March 2011 15:50 (thirteen years ago) link

feel like they should be encouraged to relocate to the libertarian paradise of somalia

ice cr?m, Wednesday, 23 March 2011 16:06 (thirteen years ago) link

A lot of wealth today hasn’t been earned fairly, but still a lot of it has been the result of hard work and creativity, even if mixed in with good luck. The United States is still a society of business and a lot of businessmen provide great value to our economy.

It's nice to know that Tyler Cowen, conservative econ professor at George Mason U, near DC, is comfortable with recent Wall Street behavior

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 23 March 2011 18:04 (thirteen years ago) link

got the lincoln e-mail for free access for the remainder of 2011 as well. scam??

dayo, Wednesday, 23 March 2011 23:45 (thirteen years ago) link

is lincoln saying that they want me to be reading the new york times while I sit behind the wheel of a brand new 2011 lincoln MKZ navigator

dayo, Wednesday, 23 March 2011 23:45 (thirteen years ago) link

http://twitter.com/freenyt

gr8080, Thursday, 24 March 2011 00:55 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah it does seem like it should be a scam, right? if only other advertisers would contact me to offer free things that i want (and can ad-block). i would also like some free frito lay netflix and some free farrar straus and giroux bookforum.

j., Thursday, 24 March 2011 02:44 (thirteen years ago) link


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