I need to double-check, but I swear I got an email saying I get unlimited online access since I get the Sunday nytimes? I need to check how much I'm paying, but I think that's actually cheaper than their online-only deals, wtf.
― mh, Tuesday, 22 March 2011 20:40 (thirteen years ago) link
since they would have to be idiots to think this will make me buy (or afford) a lincoln, i figured it must have something to do with targeting people who are likely to spread around links to times stories in somehow the right way, and act as free advertising to entice other people to subscribe. i don't think i ever even had times select, though i did pay for crossword access once.
― j., Tuesday, 22 March 2011 20:54 (thirteen years ago) link
a 7 day print subscription is cheper than the online only deals!
― caek, Tuesday, 22 March 2011 21:21 (thirteen years ago) link
stopped clock telling the right time here: http://daringfireball.net/2011/03/pricing_should_be_simple
Both companies also have legacy businesses. Netflix’s legacy business is home delivery of DVD and Blu-ray discs. Pricing for this service starts at $2/month in addition to the basic $8/month plan. It makes sense: every Netflix customer gets a digital subscription; those that want a physical product too pay a little more. The pricing steers people toward a digital-only future.The New York Times’s legacy business is the printed newspaper. They charge less for a print subscription than an all-inclusive digital subscription, despite the fact that all print subscriptions include an all-inclusive digital subscription. This makes no sense. You pay less but get something that intuitively bears a significant real cost: hundreds of pounds of printed newspaper delivered to your home throughout the year. The pricing steers people toward the legacy business.
The New York Times’s legacy business is the printed newspaper. They charge less for a print subscription than an all-inclusive digital subscription, despite the fact that all print subscriptions include an all-inclusive digital subscription. This makes no sense. You pay less but get something that intuitively bears a significant real cost: hundreds of pounds of printed newspaper delivered to your home throughout the year. The pricing steers people toward the legacy business.
― caek, Tuesday, 22 March 2011 21:22 (thirteen years ago) link
that's kind of a total lie, because the nytimes is notorious for publishing "introductory rates" and then jacking them up after a brief period. they also bury the actual billing cost way down in the system
― mh, Tuesday, 22 March 2011 21:22 (thirteen years ago) link
otm, my weekend only paper subscription is more than an online sub will be.
― American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Tuesday, 22 March 2011 21:23 (thirteen years ago) link
http://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebate/2011/03/21/rising-wealth-inequality-should-we-care
hey lets have a debate about income inequality and invite only rich white academics
― gr8080, Wednesday, 23 March 2011 00:09 (thirteen years ago) link
haha it just makes the title ("Rising Wealth Inequality: Should We Care?") even more poignant
― max, Wednesday, 23 March 2011 00:10 (thirteen years ago) link
Poor People: Should We Do Something About That, or?
that is a humdinger of a headline
― 40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 23 March 2011 00:11 (thirteen years ago) link
i mean
jjjjjjjjfc
http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/blogs/roomfordebate/contributors/michael_norton.jpg
― dayo, Wednesday, 23 March 2011 00:11 (thirteen years ago) link
for posterity
http://f.cl.ly/items/152x2H2o0L130c2v2g44/Screen%20shot%202011-03-23%20at%2000.12.29.jpg
― 40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 23 March 2011 00:13 (thirteen years ago) link
Why Rock the Boat?Lisa Keister
^^^ lisa really tapping into the ny times "room for debate" soul here
― max, Wednesday, 23 March 2011 00:13 (thirteen years ago) link
"We Feel Rich Enough"Scott Winship
― 40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 23 March 2011 00:14 (thirteen years ago) link
That's really an Onion person on the street infographic, right?
― phantoms from a world gone by speak again the immortal tale: (Jenny), Wednesday, 23 March 2011 00:27 (thirteen years ago) link
RIGHT?
why rock the boat when i might fall out and drown in money?
― ice cr?m, Wednesday, 23 March 2011 00:34 (thirteen years ago) link
A Mix of Volatile Attitudes About My Mountain of Pure Gold
― 40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 23 March 2011 00:35 (thirteen years ago) link
cake: should we let them eat it?
― Matt Armstrong, Wednesday, 23 March 2011 00:36 (thirteen years ago) link
keeping envy lolcal
― r u levelled up? (Lamp), Wednesday, 23 March 2011 00:37 (thirteen years ago) link
After all, why rock the boat when things could be worse?
hm
― brownie, Wednesday, 23 March 2011 00:37 (thirteen years ago) link
crossedarms.gif
http://www.cccoe.k12.ca.us/bats/
― buzza, Wednesday, 23 March 2011 00:38 (thirteen years ago) link
ok actual lol
― r u levelled up? (Lamp), Wednesday, 23 March 2011 00:39 (thirteen years ago) link
In terms of income, the gap between rich and middle class is growing, but in terms of happiness it is relatively low by broader historical standards.
― Matt Armstrong, Wednesday, 23 March 2011 00:39 (thirteen years ago) link
These are those people who are poor because they make less than 2 million, right?
― mh, Wednesday, 23 March 2011 00:40 (thirteen years ago) link
these days rich people are not even permitted to enslave poor people for instance
― ice cr?m, Wednesday, 23 March 2011 00:40 (thirteen years ago) link
i hire a manservant to rock the boat, if you know what i mean
― brownie, Wednesday, 23 March 2011 00:42 (thirteen years ago) link
poor people are so happy now that it's not even that rewarding to enslave them, for instance as a way of feeling one's powerfulness
― j., Wednesday, 23 March 2011 00:43 (thirteen years ago) link
http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lihkf1qRm91qgolc4.png
― ice cr?m, Wednesday, 23 March 2011 14:52 (thirteen years ago) link
I know a libertarian who always responds to the decline in real wages and increasing wage gap with a line about 'technological advances render that moot' - so those stats are irrelevant because workers may work longer and struggle more, but they have Blu Ray players.
Libertarians really are the most disgusting savages...
― boots get knocked from here to czechoslovakier (milo z), Wednesday, 23 March 2011 15:08 (thirteen years ago) link
It's true, it's moot to make more than a certain amount because you're drinking the same Coca-Cola and watching the same Blu-Ray discs so we might as well cap your income.
― sarcasdick (mh), Wednesday, 23 March 2011 15:33 (thirteen years ago) link
OTM, but congrats to them on finding a political philosophy that neatly dignifies being a self-serving asshole.
― Pop is superior to all other genres (DL), Wednesday, 23 March 2011 15:50 (thirteen years ago) link
feel like they should be encouraged to relocate to the libertarian paradise of somalia
― ice cr?m, Wednesday, 23 March 2011 16:06 (thirteen years ago) link
A lot of wealth today hasn’t been earned fairly, but still a lot of it has been the result of hard work and creativity, even if mixed in with good luck. The United States is still a society of business and a lot of businessmen provide great value to our economy.
It's nice to know that Tyler Cowen, conservative econ professor at George Mason U, near DC, is comfortable with recent Wall Street behavior
― curmudgeon, Wednesday, 23 March 2011 18:04 (thirteen years ago) link
got the lincoln e-mail for free access for the remainder of 2011 as well. scam??
― dayo, Wednesday, 23 March 2011 23:45 (thirteen years ago) link
is lincoln saying that they want me to be reading the new york times while I sit behind the wheel of a brand new 2011 lincoln MKZ navigator
http://twitter.com/freenyt
― gr8080, Thursday, 24 March 2011 00:55 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah it does seem like it should be a scam, right? if only other advertisers would contact me to offer free things that i want (and can ad-block). i would also like some free frito lay netflix and some free farrar straus and giroux bookforum.
― j., Thursday, 24 March 2011 02:44 (thirteen years ago) link
it seems to have worked for me, although who knows what accepting the offer has unleashed in terms of spam. lol at the idea of my driving a lincoln. this is what is says on my account page.
Subscriber since March 22, 2011Subscription Account Number 4527247Subscription PackageNYTimes: Web + Smartphone AppPayment TypeFree
― caek, Thursday, 24 March 2011 04:43 (thirteen years ago) link
The idea is that most people will forget about it in a year until they're automatically renewed at a crazy rate. The smart thing to do right now is go to your calendar, flip to some day in December, and write "cancel NYTimes online subscription."
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 24 March 2011 14:12 (thirteen years ago) link
they don't have my cc number, atleast they shouldn't
― dayo, Thursday, 24 March 2011 14:54 (thirteen years ago) link
the ruling class has all our cc numbers
― gr8080, Thursday, 24 March 2011 23:11 (thirteen years ago) link
then why don't they send me a towncar and charge me for it
― j., Friday, 25 March 2011 00:38 (thirteen years ago) link
doing that now, thx
― I just want to give a shout-out to Buzzy Beetles (forksclovetofu), Friday, 25 March 2011 03:23 (thirteen years ago) link
they don't have my credit card number either.
― caek, Friday, 25 March 2011 04:04 (thirteen years ago) link
Somewhere there's a NYTimes angel watching over this thread, and he has given us this:
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/03/weekinreview/03cannell.html?_r=1
― rock rough 'n' stuff with h.r. pufnstuf (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 5 April 2011 02:49 (thirteen years ago) link
ha i am guilty of stanning for The Selby
― gr8080, Tuesday, 5 April 2011 03:01 (thirteen years ago) link