quiddities and agonies of the ruling class - a rolling new york times thread

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After all, why rock the boat when things could be worse?

hm

brownie, Wednesday, 23 March 2011 00:37 (thirteen years ago) link

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brownie, Wednesday, 23 March 2011 00:37 (thirteen years ago) link

http://www.cccoe.k12.ca.us/bats/

buzza, Wednesday, 23 March 2011 00:38 (thirteen years ago) link

ok actual lol

r u levelled up? (Lamp), Wednesday, 23 March 2011 00:39 (thirteen years ago) link

In terms of income, the gap between rich and middle class is growing, but in terms of happiness it is relatively low by broader historical standards.

Matt Armstrong, Wednesday, 23 March 2011 00:39 (thirteen years ago) link

These are those people who are poor because they make less than 2 million, right?

mh, Wednesday, 23 March 2011 00:40 (thirteen years ago) link

these days rich people are not even permitted to enslave poor people for instance

ice cr?m, Wednesday, 23 March 2011 00:40 (thirteen years ago) link

i hire a manservant to rock the boat, if you know what i mean

brownie, Wednesday, 23 March 2011 00:42 (thirteen years ago) link

poor people are so happy now that it's not even that rewarding to enslave them, for instance as a way of feeling one's powerfulness

j., Wednesday, 23 March 2011 00:43 (thirteen years ago) link

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lihkf1qRm91qgolc4.png

ice cr?m, Wednesday, 23 March 2011 14:52 (thirteen years ago) link

I know a libertarian who always responds to the decline in real wages and increasing wage gap with a line about 'technological advances render that moot' - so those stats are irrelevant because workers may work longer and struggle more, but they have Blu Ray players.

Libertarians really are the most disgusting savages...

boots get knocked from here to czechoslovakier (milo z), Wednesday, 23 March 2011 15:08 (thirteen years ago) link

It's true, it's moot to make more than a certain amount because you're drinking the same Coca-Cola and watching the same Blu-Ray discs so we might as well cap your income.

sarcasdick (mh), Wednesday, 23 March 2011 15:33 (thirteen years ago) link

Libertarians really are the most disgusting savages...

OTM, but congrats to them on finding a political philosophy that neatly dignifies being a self-serving asshole.

Pop is superior to all other genres (DL), Wednesday, 23 March 2011 15:50 (thirteen years ago) link

feel like they should be encouraged to relocate to the libertarian paradise of somalia

ice cr?m, Wednesday, 23 March 2011 16:06 (thirteen years ago) link

A lot of wealth today hasn’t been earned fairly, but still a lot of it has been the result of hard work and creativity, even if mixed in with good luck. The United States is still a society of business and a lot of businessmen provide great value to our economy.

It's nice to know that Tyler Cowen, conservative econ professor at George Mason U, near DC, is comfortable with recent Wall Street behavior

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 23 March 2011 18:04 (thirteen years ago) link

got the lincoln e-mail for free access for the remainder of 2011 as well. scam??

dayo, Wednesday, 23 March 2011 23:45 (thirteen years ago) link

is lincoln saying that they want me to be reading the new york times while I sit behind the wheel of a brand new 2011 lincoln MKZ navigator

dayo, Wednesday, 23 March 2011 23:45 (thirteen years ago) link

http://twitter.com/freenyt

gr8080, Thursday, 24 March 2011 00:55 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah it does seem like it should be a scam, right? if only other advertisers would contact me to offer free things that i want (and can ad-block). i would also like some free frito lay netflix and some free farrar straus and giroux bookforum.

j., Thursday, 24 March 2011 02:44 (thirteen years ago) link

it seems to have worked for me, although who knows what accepting the offer has unleashed in terms of spam. lol at the idea of my driving a lincoln. this is what is says on my account page.

Subscriber since
March 22, 2011
Subscription Account Number
4527247
Subscription Package
NYTimes: Web + Smartphone App
Payment Type
Free

caek, Thursday, 24 March 2011 04:43 (thirteen years ago) link

The idea is that most people will forget about it in a year until they're automatically renewed at a crazy rate. The smart thing to do right now is go to your calendar, flip to some day in December, and write "cancel NYTimes online subscription."

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 24 March 2011 14:12 (thirteen years ago) link

they don't have my cc number, at
least they shouldn't

dayo, Thursday, 24 March 2011 14:54 (thirteen years ago) link

the ruling class has all our cc numbers

gr8080, Thursday, 24 March 2011 23:11 (thirteen years ago) link

then why don't they send me a towncar and charge me for it

j., Friday, 25 March 2011 00:38 (thirteen years ago) link

doing that now, thx

I just want to give a shout-out to Buzzy Beetles (forksclovetofu), Friday, 25 March 2011 03:23 (thirteen years ago) link

they don't have my credit card number either.

caek, Friday, 25 March 2011 04:04 (thirteen years ago) link

Somewhere there's a NYTimes angel watching over this thread, and he has given us this:

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/03/weekinreview/03cannell.html?_r=1

rock rough 'n' stuff with h.r. pufnstuf (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 5 April 2011 02:49 (thirteen years ago) link

ha i am guilty of stanning for The Selby

gr8080, Tuesday, 5 April 2011 03:01 (thirteen years ago) link

From Hurting2's linked article:

"Historically, only a fraction of Americans hired architects or interior designers."

Well-researched, sir! As near as possible to a content-free sentence as I've seen this week.

Aimless, Tuesday, 5 April 2011 04:14 (thirteen years ago) link

First I've heard of modernism being a frugal response to the depression too. What, like they couldn't afford ornate details?

rock rough 'n' stuff with h.r. pufnstuf (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 5 April 2011 04:15 (thirteen years ago) link

I suppose hand in hand with modernism as the form follows function ideal was the sense that the products were made for mass production, supposed to be cheap and easily accessible to everyone.

dan selzer, Tuesday, 5 April 2011 04:21 (thirteen years ago) link

It was the ornate details on mass-produced crap that pissed off the modernists so much. Mass produced product should look it.

(I have shelves of Heller Vignelli tableware.)

dan selzer, Tuesday, 5 April 2011 04:23 (thirteen years ago) link

scandiniavian modernism has its roots in late 19th century democratic ideals, "Vackrare Vardagsvara" and "design for all" & so forth

ban drake (the rapper) (max), Tuesday, 5 April 2011 04:24 (thirteen years ago) link

“There are people who are known bad guys, and then there’s him,” said Russell S. Novack, the Legal Aid lawyer who represents many of Midtown’s hustlers, prostitutes, shoplifters and public drunks. “He’s like the goodwill ambassador of Eighth Avenue. And when he comes into court, he says hello to everybody.”

The Geirogeirgegege (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 5 April 2011 10:22 (thirteen years ago) link

Organized as a series of visits to the homes of writers, musicians and other creative types, the site shows rooms filled with artful clutter — taxidermy, thrift shop paintings, exquisitely peeling wallpaper.

so, is the article trying to say that the "kitsch as design aesthetic" is filtering into the general populace?

sarahel, Tuesday, 5 April 2011 10:35 (thirteen years ago) link

because this selby thing just seems like something someone did a zine about 20 years ago with the same decor.

sarahel, Tuesday, 5 April 2011 10:40 (thirteen years ago) link

"The only guiding principle is that there is no guiding principle."

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 5 April 2011 10:42 (thirteen years ago) link

new keanu, same as the old keanu

sarahel, Tuesday, 5 April 2011 10:44 (thirteen years ago) link

Anything goes, as evidenced by a Chicago couple who parked an Airstream trailer in their loft.

Look here, if you can afford 1) a living space big enough to house an Airstream trailer; and 2) to pay someone to move that Airstream trailer into your large living space, your home decor choices are not suffering during a recession.

phantoms from a world gone by speak again the immortal tale: (Jenny), Tuesday, 5 April 2011 12:20 (thirteen years ago) link

tbf theyre talking about modernist design!

ban drake (the rapper) (max), Tuesday, 5 April 2011 13:13 (thirteen years ago) link

the second image there is a wallpaper design

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 5 April 2011 13:20 (thirteen years ago) link

come one that is a ridiculous thing to say! it's only there to set up these "undecorators" as somehow original

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 5 April 2011 13:25 (thirteen years ago) link

peche is arguably pre-modernist/"arts & crafts" but even so i dont think "formal orthogonal lines and rigid color palette" is the WORST generalization as these things go

perhaps instead of "modernism" we should speak of "modernisms" but its the nyt style section

ban drake (the rapper) (max), Tuesday, 5 April 2011 13:26 (thirteen years ago) link

they're the same shabby-chic scavengers we've always had but with an extra layer of artistic pretension that this writer has decided to turn into another trend piece about "the recession"

xpost well yes

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 5 April 2011 13:27 (thirteen years ago) link

i guess i feel that if the style section has to exist the editors should stick to rich people's hobbies without attempting to yoke them to subjects they couldn't pay attention to in college, i.e. economics i.e. art history

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 5 April 2011 13:29 (thirteen years ago) link

but i guess none of it works unless there is a faint aroma of education wafting in

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 5 April 2011 13:33 (thirteen years ago) link

TBF, as the NYTimes has often reminded us, 'the effects of the recession' are not necessarily about what you actually can or can't afford as wanting to not look too rich and go with the spirit of the times.

rock rough 'n' stuff with h.r. pufnstuf (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 5 April 2011 15:00 (thirteen years ago) link


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