In Defense of Sailor Moon

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haha oh man i had totally forgotten that in the dub version serena's bff has a ridic jersey accent & the nerd is named meelllvin

ban lex pretend (Lamp), Friday, 1 April 2011 05:18 (thirteen years ago) link

every time the dragon ball guys were powering up it was like they were having a raging boner

― cold hands of monkeys on my heart (CaptainLorax), Friday, April 1, 2011 12:33 AM (9 hours ago) Bookmark

qft. Dragonball bad guys with pink flesh and big muscles and tight buns and long hair and voices like 80-year-old grandmothers. I don't know exactly what it is, gender/sexuality-wise. It's complex and more intense than I can really handle.

kkvgz, Friday, 1 April 2011 14:28 (thirteen years ago) link

xpost

TUXEDO MASK

(tuxedo mask?)

TUXEDO MASK
http://dreager1.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/tuxedomask.jpg

(I *only* watched the dub version, considering this was on Toonami when I was whatever age... but remember his accent fondly. And the bewilderment that the girls had at his every appearance/vice versa.... I could never buy that the girls were unrecognizable in different clothes)

kelpolaris, Sunday, 3 April 2011 22:24 (thirteen years ago) link

i recently started watching the original japanese episodes w/subtitles while i do my hand-weight exercises, so that during the fight sequences i can be like "POW POW POW i too fight on behalf of the moon!!!" i will soon be thirty years old.

love this post

ℳℴℯ ❤\(◕‿◕✿ (Princess TamTam), Sunday, 3 April 2011 22:38 (thirteen years ago) link

qft. Dragonball bad guys with pink flesh and big muscles and tight buns and long hair and voices like 80-year-old grandmothers. I don't know exactly what it is, gender/sexuality-wise. It's complex and more intense than I can really handle.

― kkvgz, Friday, April 1, 2011 9:28 AM (2 days ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Yeah — often the strongest incarnations of any of the characters were also the smallest/most feminine. I think it's a weird play by Toriyama on viewers' (or readers' in the case of the manga) expectations.

corey, Sunday, 3 April 2011 23:25 (thirteen years ago) link

I dunno if DBZ and SM are comparable though — DBZ is serial while SM is more contained within episodes (even if there is a larger story arc, but it's incidental).

corey, Sunday, 3 April 2011 23:26 (thirteen years ago) link

it feels so appropriate that people are linking to angelfire pics in a sailor moon thread

ℳℴℯ ❤\(◕‿◕✿ (Princess TamTam), Monday, 4 April 2011 00:19 (thirteen years ago) link

tbh I couldn't believe angelfire still existed!

corey, Monday, 4 April 2011 00:21 (thirteen years ago) link

incidentally, i used to have a geocities page about sailor pluto. this is true, and shameful.

one dis leads to another (ian), Monday, 4 April 2011 04:10 (thirteen years ago) link

it feels so appropriate that people are linking to angelfire pics in a sailor moon thread

hahahaha was thinking that as well

original bgm, Monday, 4 April 2011 13:33 (thirteen years ago) link

one year passes...

people on tumblr claiming there is going to be a new sailor moon anime in 2013?? i will believe it when i see it but STILL

the bibles fake lol don't trust a book (reddening), Friday, 6 July 2012 13:59 (eleven years ago) link

I have a gigantic crush on Sailor Mercury

― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Wednesday, July 13, 2005 8:39 AM (6 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I've expanded my pixel crushes since 2006. Now I prefer Sailor HAT-P-32b.

Jeff, Friday, 6 July 2012 14:27 (eleven years ago) link

lol @ kelpolaris post

carly rae (flopson), Friday, 6 July 2012 18:46 (eleven years ago) link

Used to looooooooooooooooooooove this show at age 15 or so, it was really my gateway into several years of dedicated anime fandom (setting aside a much earlier Robotech obsession). Kind of can't imagine watching any of it now; like DBZ it is LONG and there's a lot of whatnot and filler which was pretty entertaining to me at one point but which I think would be sort of grindingly dull to go through again. Goes back to the whole "having enough free time" thing I guess. I think I can track a major evolution in my sexual preferences from unthreatening mousy nerds to raging tomboys on some kind of Mercury/Jupiter axis. I once maintained an "Anime Babes" page which featured both of them prominently, of course.

I think if I were to revisit any 90s shoujo at this point it'd have to be Escaflowne, which is concise and pretty tightly plotted IIRC. Although maybe too much of a genre hybrid to count, what with the magical dragon robots and all. And hrm...I never did finish Utena, that'd be good to do someday. And when I'm in the retirement home maybe I'll settle in and actually delve into Fushigi Yuugi...

Doctor Casino, Saturday, 7 July 2012 09:13 (eleven years ago) link

one year passes...

it has been a blast revisiting this show two episodes a week on hulu. i fell in love with it in middle school on the verge of a wider engagement with anime, but the only other person who watched in in my class was this identically nascent genderqueer dude and we really bonded over the show (and, incidentally, dbz, but all of my friends watched that). i thought, similar to doctor casino, that it'd be a slog to get through again, but once the rhythms of the show are established even the slightest deviations in the monster-of-the-week form are oddly thrilling.

the trailer for the new anime is odd; the character designs are more faithful to the manga but the animation is so modern that it creates a strange dissonance in their movements. though it's only a trailer

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Tuesday, 10 June 2014 05:40 (nine years ago) link

''Even the slightest deviations'' - ha, I remember that feeling! Like, you knew shit was starting to get real as the season was nearing its end, the bad guys collecting those five crystals from people meant every episode was an EVENT, etc. I also really liked, also in S1, the lack of symmetry or evenness across arcs (such as they were) - the amount of time where they're dealing with Jadeite vs. Zoisite or w/e, some things are twelve episode deals, some things are three... even blatant filler like the two aliens in between the first saga and the proper Sailor Moon R stuff helped add to this totally epic feel.

Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 10 June 2014 06:26 (nine years ago) link

One of my friends ran a Sailor Moon club in HS and convinced me to come; I was only vaguely familiar with the show. She showed us one of the movies and it was the first subbed anime I had seen - I was entranced. She let me borrow a handful of subtitled episodes taped third-hand on VHS, totally out of order, and there was something really fun and puzzling trying to piece together a show with fragments from different storylines, containing cultural references that were alien to me. I became obsessed and once I had a broadband connection in college, I scoured ftp sites in order to download and watch every episode of the show, but the more I understood the SM storylines and Japanese cultural stuff, the better the translations, the less I enjoyed it. A large part of the appeal was how strange it was, how different the process for watching it was from every other show I had seen. Once I had some familiarity with other anime, SM lost its luster. Little desire to go back and rewatch, but tons of fond memories.

Also Sailor Jupiter was the bomb

Vinnie, Tuesday, 10 June 2014 14:34 (nine years ago) link

"Star Gentle Uterus" was the attack used by Sailor Star Maker in all versions of the Sailor Moon series in which she appeared

( X '____' )/ (zappi), Tuesday, 10 June 2014 14:52 (nine years ago) link

what the

Star Gentle Uterus (DJP), Tuesday, 10 June 2014 14:55 (nine years ago) link

ctrl+f "boom anime babes" no results found delete bookmark

Disagree. And im not into firey solos chief. (Phil D.), Tuesday, 10 June 2014 15:02 (nine years ago) link

That was probably around the time I was playing episodes in the background while doing something else, but I'm surprised I don't remember "Star Gentle Uterus"

Vinnie, Tuesday, 10 June 2014 15:08 (nine years ago) link

ahhha

actual thing here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DU9sQi_wnQ

Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 10 June 2014 19:03 (nine years ago) link

I mean really

Star Gentle Uterus (DJP), Tuesday, 10 June 2014 19:56 (nine years ago) link

three weeks pass...

if anyone is interested in the new show it's on hulu http://www.hulu.com/watch/657610

so far it's pretty nice! way more faithful to the designs and rhythms of the manga. the transformation scene is unfortunately ugly as hell. i haven't watched a new anime in five years and i guess ppl are still captivated by unnecessary cg

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Saturday, 5 July 2014 17:15 (nine years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Moon Animate Make-Up is a crowdsourced group animation project to re-animate an episode of Sailor Moon shot-by-shot in each artist's personal style. From October 2013 to July 2014, over two hundred and fifty animators contributed at least one shot each to assemble a full length parody episode of Sailor Moon.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=orhh6TZ6qCE

( X '____' )/ (zappi), Monday, 21 July 2014 15:51 (nine years ago) link

hahaha cool

God I'd forgotten Molly's amazing OTT voice, someone should have just done her as Betty Boop.

Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 22 July 2014 01:49 (nine years ago) link

five years pass...

amazing that both ile threads about sailor moon were started by nabisco

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Saturday, 18 April 2020 00:51 (four years ago) link

also whoa i don't remember making this post at all

it has been a blast revisiting this show two episodes a week on hulu. i fell in love with it in middle school on the verge of a wider engagement with anime, but the only other person who watched in in my class was this identically nascent genderqueer dude and we really bonded over the show (and, incidentally, dbz, but all of my friends watched that). i thought, similar to doctor casino, that it'd be a slog to get through again, but once the rhythms of the show are established even the slightest deviations in the monster-of-the-week form are oddly thrilling.

the trailer for the new anime is odd; the character designs are more faithful to the manga but the animation is so modern that it creates a strange dissonance in their movements. though it's only a trailer

― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Monday, June 9, 2014 10:40 PM (five years ago) bookmarkflaglink

that's pretty otm, neat that i was using phrases like "nascent genderqueer dude" years before i even came out as nonbinary. sailor moon crystal ended up being simultaneously awesome and disappointing: great to see the manga adapted directly because the manga's great, but also... that's all there is? (the manga is also, somehow, less gay than the anime)

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Saturday, 18 April 2020 00:54 (four years ago) link

i also made that post before i saw the whole thing over the course of 2016!

and i'm rewatching it again! just finished sailor moon r, the makai tree arc fucking suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuucks

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Saturday, 18 April 2020 00:55 (four years ago) link

does anybody just straight up weep through the last two episodes of season one every fucking time, like i do

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Saturday, 18 April 2020 00:56 (four years ago) link

love all your posts itt brad, esp the one you just reposted <3

i oddly remember not hating the alien tree storyline (noted it upthread as blatant filler that still worked for me) but i also can't remember anything about it except thinking that human-form Ann was pretty cute. i think it helped that back then, the US broadcast got like five or eight episodes into the chibi-usa/black crystal stuff and then stopped, looping around to episode 1 of the first season. so at least the tree arc was *finished*. also the tree is like dying on them as the thing progresses right? i think I found that sort of compelling in terms of stakes and dramatic momentum. is there any good business or character stuff for the leads during this period, or is it all on hold until the black moon clan?

Doctor Casino, Saturday, 18 April 2020 02:21 (four years ago) link

there is a straight up amazing episode right in the center of the makai tree arc, episode 51 "A New Transformation: Usagi's Power-Up." the monster is like horror-movie-cool (which, at least for the first two seasons, when this show is at its best, the monsters are fuckin scary), and there's a very strange lackadaisical rhythm to the earlier cherry blossom scenes that makes it stand out not only in the context of the arc but the entire show. a ton of great character moments for usagi too. it makes the rest of the arc look *pitiful*

one of the things i really hate about the makai tree story: the guardians all learn boring new powers that are immediately abandoned once the black moon story begins (during which they learn COOL new powers)

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Saturday, 18 April 2020 02:27 (four years ago) link

the makai tree ITSELF is cool, like the design of the show never really flags, but the whole cardian plot is such a xerox of season one that i find it soooo tiresome

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Saturday, 18 April 2020 02:28 (four years ago) link

also i think ail and ann have really boring personalities, their only motivations are energy and wanting to steal usagi/mamoru away from each other (BORING). awful villains

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Saturday, 18 April 2020 02:30 (four years ago) link

i'm so excited to get into sailor moon s, which i remember as the best season. like "even the filler is good"-good

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Saturday, 18 April 2020 02:35 (four years ago) link

also i have conflicted feelings about the black moon arc in sailor moon r, as 1) it's the storyline that made me absolutely obsessed with the show as a kid 2) on revisit it seems to tell the story way less well than the manga? like both way too stretched out and way too rushed at the same time. felt sort of the same way this time but enjoyed it more, i mean the time travel element of the story is just outrageous and charming, chibi-usa is great, sailor pluto is amazing, wiseman/death phantom is a formidable and interesting villain, yet... gets nowhere near the emotional peaks of the first season

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Saturday, 18 April 2020 02:39 (four years ago) link

i think i really hated the "mamoru gets an apocalyptic vision of the future and BREAKS UP WITH USAGI FOR NO REASON" plotline the last time but i just let it ride this time and it really grew on me

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Saturday, 18 April 2020 02:46 (four years ago) link

venus was too much of a goody two shoes.

― one dis leads to another (ian), Thursday, March 31, 2011 9:21 PM (nine years ago) bookmarkflaglink

this post is hilarious to me because minako does not have much of a personality besides always saying aphorisms incorrectly

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Saturday, 18 April 2020 02:52 (four years ago) link

she's definitely the weakest link, i remember fanfic REALLY struggling to know what to do with her. you'd think her previous work as a non-transforming vigilante hero would be good for some conversation but nope.

haha i'd forgotten about those half-measure powerup episodes! i think i thought they were cool because something was "happening." also we didn't have the rest of R, so we never got to any better upgrades.

Doctor Casino, Saturday, 18 April 2020 11:02 (four years ago) link

i'd also forgotten about the "moonlight knight" plot, which is...... stupid

Doctor Casino, Saturday, 18 April 2020 11:07 (four years ago) link

it's so dumb!!! the reveal that moonlight knight is some physical manifestation of mamoru's lost memories???? terrible!!!!

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Saturday, 18 April 2020 17:45 (four years ago) link

thread has inspired me to rewatch the first season again, a couple of episodes a night before sleep is just what i need at the moment

( X '____' )/ (zappi), Saturday, 18 April 2020 18:20 (four years ago) link

it’s really comforting!

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Saturday, 18 April 2020 18:31 (four years ago) link

i'm two episodes into sailor moon s and it's just as good as i remembered. everything's kind of at its peak: the humor, the character moments, the sick new sailor moon transformation sequence, maybe my favorite of the show

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Saturday, 18 April 2020 18:32 (four years ago) link

and for some reason they kept the ending theme from sailor moon r, at least for now, and it's my favorite ending theme so i'm pleased

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Saturday, 18 April 2020 18:33 (four years ago) link

all of the monsters are so wacky and cool in this season! in the second episode there's a cat monster that emerges from a puzzle and she keeps crumbling into puzzle pieces whenever she's attacked, it's awesome. and the car monster in episode three is hilarious. screech! vroom!

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Saturday, 18 April 2020 20:16 (four years ago) link

uranus' "world shaking" is the most badass sailor guardian attack

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Saturday, 18 April 2020 20:21 (four years ago) link

this is the BEST show

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Saturday, 18 April 2020 22:14 (four years ago) link


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