i wish grann had used the whole quote but this is BS:
Now that is a way different exit picture than the one Grann painted for us. Not only were Willingham's very last words the diametric opposite of the high-toned, religious sentiments Grann led us to believe were the very last, but they bear on one of the most difficult things to comprehend about this case -- motive. Why would a father intentionally burn up his baby girls?Well, as incomprehensible as it seems, we know that some fathers do kill their young children, and anger at the mother is one common reason. If that tirade was directed at his ex-wife Stacy, as the reporter who was there believed it was, it helps fill in the motive.
Well, as incomprehensible as it seems, we know that some fathers do kill their young children, and anger at the mother is one common reason. If that tirade was directed at his ex-wife Stacy, as the reporter who was there believed it was, it helps fill in the motive.
yes all of granns meticulous reporting and evidence for innonce, proven wrong by the profane rantings of a man condemned to die
― ban drake (the rapper) (max), Wednesday, 6 April 2011 02:31 (thirteen years ago) link
max otm
― gr8080, Wednesday, 6 April 2011 04:10 (thirteen years ago) link
2/3rds of the way through the Rosenberg article. Holy shit. All I want to know is when is the Tony Gilroy movie version coming out?
― dan selzer, Wednesday, 6 April 2011 18:36 (thirteen years ago) link
Yeah, that Rosenberg article was an amazing read.
― 'what are you, the Hymen Protection League of America?' (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 6 April 2011 19:04 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah, again grann lives up to the cliche "stranger than fiction"!
― tylerw, Wednesday, 6 April 2011 19:10 (thirteen years ago) link
I meant to read just a couple of pages of the Rosenberg article at lunch and wound up finishing the thing in one go. The magazine is on an incredible roll. I wonder if its circulation and subscription figures have remained steady; I'd imagine it hasn't lost much of its urban liberal base.
― Hey Look More Than Five Years Has Passed And You Have A C (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 6 April 2011 19:39 (thirteen years ago) link
Woah, those last words. Talk about changing tack halfway through.
Yeah. The only statement I want to make is that I am an innocent man -- convicted of a crime I did not commit. I have been persecuted for 12 years for something I did not do. From God's dust I came and to dust I will return -- so the earth shall become my throne. I gotta go, road dog. I love you Gabby. I hope you rot in hell, bitch; I hope you fucking rot in hell, bitch. You bitch; I hope you fucking rot, cunt. That is it.
― Pop is superior to all other genres (DL), Wednesday, 6 April 2011 19:41 (thirteen years ago) link
think it's noted in this thread but $50 or so for a year's subscription is a ridiculous deal. and i don't even take advantage of the online archives very much.
― tylerw, Wednesday, 6 April 2011 19:43 (thirteen years ago) link
I got the "educator's discount" last August: $32 then.
― Hey Look More Than Five Years Has Passed And You Have A C (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 6 April 2011 19:44 (thirteen years ago) link
you monster
― tylerw, Wednesday, 6 April 2011 19:45 (thirteen years ago) link
lol that quote is killing me... lord, why have you forsaken me? ride or die bitch fuck cunt booger.
― ℳℴℯ ❤\(◕‿◕✿ (Princess TamTam), Wednesday, 6 April 2011 19:49 (thirteen years ago) link
― Hey Look More Than Five Years Has Passed And You Have A C (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, April 6, 2011 3:39 PM (30 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
im pretty sure theyve risen since remnick took over; the really amazing figure is that the mag has a resubscribe rate of near 90%
― ban drake (the rapper) (max), Wednesday, 6 April 2011 20:14 (thirteen years ago) link
that rosenberg article is insane
had read the chameleon and the art piece before, the arson was new but had never really picked up name of author
need to renew my subscription
― H in Addis, Thursday, 7 April 2011 00:19 (thirteen years ago) link
― Hey Look More Than Five Years Has Passed And You Have A C (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, April 6, 2011 9:44 AM (10 hours ago) Bookmark
$25/year for the last 2 years, suckers
― gr8080, Thursday, 7 April 2011 06:44 (thirteen years ago) link
but i get them 3 or 4 weeks late, even the newstands here get them a week ahead of me somehow
― gr8080, Thursday, 7 April 2011 06:45 (thirteen years ago) link
I get the "my mom buys me a subscription" discount.
$0/year for 8+ years
― dan selzer, Thursday, 7 April 2011 06:46 (thirteen years ago) link
that's how to live.
― gr8080, Thursday, 7 April 2011 07:13 (thirteen years ago) link
UK sub is something like £120 (or maybe $120, I forget which) but still worth it.
― Pop is superior to all other genres (DL), Thursday, 7 April 2011 09:23 (thirteen years ago) link
^^^yesss
at some point during the rodrigo rosenberg article i actually wondered if it was leading up to an april fool's joke
― mookieproof, Thursday, 7 April 2011 09:43 (thirteen years ago) link
guys, guys - let's not allow a few pieces of meticulously researched and tautly written long-form journalism obscure the reams of smug forgettable shit in this monthly publication
― 40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 7 April 2011 10:28 (thirteen years ago) link
Patricia Marx to thread.
― Pop is superior to all other genres (DL), Thursday, 7 April 2011 11:04 (thirteen years ago) link
It's weekly BTW
haha yes. which is kind of a miracle actually
― 40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 7 April 2011 11:05 (thirteen years ago) link
Let's poll the subscription options.
― Hey Look More Than Five Years Has Passed And You Have A C (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 7 April 2011 12:20 (thirteen years ago) link
I, like everyone else, accumulate daunting piles of New Yorkers, because each issue has so much I want to read. Then I wait for a vacation and bring along five or six issues. They're light and disposable, and I can discard them (or give them away, or leave them behind) wherever I happen to finish them. Perfect for airplanes, waiting rooms and hotels. Each issue is like a great little anthology.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 7 April 2011 13:21 (thirteen years ago) link
Oh, good ol' reliable ilx, always someone coming along to rain on the parade.
― 'what are you, the Hymen Protection League of America?' (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 7 April 2011 13:51 (thirteen years ago) link
patricia marx writes what like... six articles a year?
the nyer critics are probably 3/4s unbearable but the rest of the stuff is consistently great, incl. talk of the town
― ban drake (the rapper) (max), Thursday, 7 April 2011 14:13 (thirteen years ago) link
i've been finding the ny'er amazingly un-smug lately, i guess except for that insane david brooks article that i couldn't even finish.
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 7 April 2011 14:28 (thirteen years ago) link
tbh & i say this as a fan i think the NYer house style w/ its long-form pieces is too straight & bland to be "smug"
― ban drake (the rapper) (max), Thursday, 7 April 2011 14:35 (thirteen years ago) link
Adam Gopnik's pretty smug but I agree that the house style mostly avoids that pitfall.
Enjoyed the Tunisia feature in the same issue as the Grann one.
― Pop is superior to all other genres (DL), Thursday, 7 April 2011 15:03 (thirteen years ago) link
ive given up on "shouts and murmurs"
― gr8080, Thursday, 7 April 2011 18:19 (thirteen years ago) link
lioke even if someone who's opinion i respect tells me there's a good one i should read i refuse to on principle
oh yeah haha i forgot about shouts and murmurs in my estimation of the nyers smugness, probably because i never, ever read it
― ban drake (the rapper) (max), Thursday, 7 April 2011 18:20 (thirteen years ago) link
basically i check to see if its jack handey and if its not i skip
I cannot face shouts & murmurs ever. I also never read the short fiction, cards on table.
What is the Rosenberg story everyone is talking abt? Starting to worry that I misplaced an issue...
― the Stars That Play with Laughing Sam's Doink (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 7 April 2011 18:29 (thirteen years ago) link
It's in last week's issue and also online:http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2011/04/04/110404fa_fact_grann
― jaymc, Thursday, 7 April 2011 18:31 (thirteen years ago) link
Oh cool, got that one already, been saving it.
George RR Martin profile in the current ish was hella depressing. Fans are not good people.
― the Stars That Play with Laughing Sam's Doink (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 7 April 2011 18:34 (thirteen years ago) link
oh yeah shouts and murmurs blows obv
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 7 April 2011 18:36 (thirteen years ago) link
The short fiction is hit or miss, but I liked the Murakami story they re-ran in the Japan issue.
― 'what are you, the Hymen Protection League of America?' (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 7 April 2011 18:37 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah i read the martin profile last night -- don't know anything about the guy, but yeeesh. his fans! definitely a good book or something to be written (if it hasn't been written already) about modern fandom, and how the internet has mucked everything up.
― tylerw, Thursday, 7 April 2011 18:39 (thirteen years ago) link
It's rly rly weird psychologically and the GRRM profile is far from the first time I have noticed it; basically, Fans with a capital F have this weird seething RAGE toward the creators of the narratives they want. Like this impotent rage. The creator(s) don't even have to be late on delivery of new work like GRRM has been, the Fans just are constantly teetering between deification and hatred of those who CONTROL "their" characters. There DOES need to be a new book abt it because the internet has exacerbated it severely.
― the Stars That Play with Laughing Sam's Doink (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 7 April 2011 19:27 (thirteen years ago) link
i still read the fiction every week but it's kind of depressing how far its fallen off. i remember back in the early to mid 00's when they had authors like munro, edward jones, murakami, jhumpa lahiri, etc in constant rotation. there's still a quality story now and then but it's much less frequent. i do really like the fiction podcast from the website tho.
― Moreno, Thursday, 7 April 2011 20:39 (thirteen years ago) link
http://www.slate.com/id/2290801/
― vampire weeknd (cozen), Monday, 11 April 2011 17:20 (thirteen years ago) link
all aboard the grann wagon
― ban drake (the rapper) (max), Monday, 11 April 2011 17:29 (thirteen years ago) link
groann
― vampire weeknd (cozen), Monday, 11 April 2011 17:34 (thirteen years ago) link
Started Lost City of Z and seriously, crack on paper.
Did anyone else notice one of the entrants to this week's caption contest?
― Leeeter van den Hoogenband (Leee), Saturday, 16 April 2011 22:06 (thirteen years ago) link
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/826480/Photo%20Apr%2019%2C%209%2057%2002%20PM.jpg
from the ipad edition, remnick's latest sounds like a must-read.
― joe, Tuesday, 19 April 2011 21:09 (thirteen years ago) link
I feel like there are a few Franzen haters around here, but I'm surprised to find myself enjoying his article about the island, Robin Crusoe, and DFW.
― 'what are you, the Hymen Protection League of America?' (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 19 April 2011 21:11 (thirteen years ago) link
read that malcolm x thing yesterday. it was aight.
― gr8080, Tuesday, 19 April 2011 21:28 (thirteen years ago) link
its just a book review.