i doubt they're writing Theon out, he just doesn't have much to do in book 1 besides smirk a lot.
re: the ending of the episode, in the book when Bran stumbles onto jaime & cersei he listens in on them for a while and hears about a bunch of ~intrigues~ before watching them bone - i can understand why they cut it out, but i missed it all the same
― cum dude (Princess TamTam), Monday, 18 April 2011 06:24 (thirteen years ago) link
xp
allmypulp's last two posts seem a little spoilery to me, maybe a mod should edit them? not to be all thread police-y but
― cum dude (Princess TamTam), Monday, 18 April 2011 06:26 (thirteen years ago) link
I won't argue if they are. But you may want to edit some of the reviews that are listed, since they contain spoilers also.
― allmypulp, Monday, 18 April 2011 06:33 (thirteen years ago) link
allmypulp: just understand that there's several people on here watching this who haven't read the books, and this series has a lot of huge out-of-nowhere plot twists so it's particularly prone to spoiler-ruination
― ciderpress, Monday, 18 April 2011 06:35 (thirteen years ago) link
That's a good warning! xp
― cum dude (Princess TamTam), Monday, 18 April 2011 06:38 (thirteen years ago) link
Okay, that's fair. Well I would've liked to more of Theon also. But it is just the first episode which I enjoyed, and am still anticipating the rest.
― allmypulp, Monday, 18 April 2011 06:41 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah i don't remember theon doing anything interesting at least until book 2.
― difficult listening hour, Monday, 18 April 2011 06:43 (thirteen years ago) link
(sadface.)
― difficult listening hour, Monday, 18 April 2011 06:44 (thirteen years ago) link
Peter Dinklage is the best.
― reggaeton for the painfully alone (polyphonic), Monday, 18 April 2011 06:46 (thirteen years ago) link
actually my mistake, it looks like Theon is cast, he just didn't get pointed out yet. wouldn't be surprised if they play down his story anyway though, at least for the first season
― ciderpress, Monday, 18 April 2011 07:15 (thirteen years ago) link
Who is Theon I have read book 1 and don't even know who he is
― VegemiteGrrl, Monday, 18 April 2011 07:17 (thirteen years ago) link
He's Ed Starks ward from an island that rebelled against the king, so he's held as hostage by the Ed Stark under the pretense of being a "ward".
― allmypulp, Monday, 18 April 2011 07:22 (thirteen years ago) link
I really wasn't taken with the sex/nudity aspects of the pilot, but there's definitely some promise here. (I'm not familiar with the books at all.)
― Simon H. Shit (Simon H.), Monday, 18 April 2011 08:50 (thirteen years ago) link
"it seems as if they're gonna write Theon out of the story completely" -- if they do this i will credit them with a certain amount of nous, i guess? there's like two or three things that you can see would be obvious candidates for streamlining the narrative, and that seems like one of them
likewise glad that it's less clear what bran sees -- that said, i kind of think that even knowing who pushes him out of the window is cack-handed plotting: i mean, it makes the whole arc of the book fairly transparent once you learn (isolated datum which will probably be somewhere in the first six episodes)
re: the slate review - http://www.salon.com/entertainment/tv/feature/2011/04/16/game_of_thrones_review_of_reviewers - someone on tumblr posted a screengrab of that where every single ad on slate was for this show. er
i kind of want to watch the first episode or so of this, i feel like the combination of it being about elves and shit + apparent shitheap of gratuitous nudity = it will be a hard sell for the other half, i think
also i only want to watch it so i can complain about it on the internet? so i shouldn't bother, probably
― thomp, Monday, 18 April 2011 09:37 (thirteen years ago) link
I really wasn't taken with the sex/nudity aspects
phrases you rarely see
― standing on the shoulders of pissants (ledge), Monday, 18 April 2011 11:44 (thirteen years ago) link
from that salon article "Patterson is one of the sharpest, funniest TV reviewers out there"
oh plz.
― Mordy, Monday, 18 April 2011 14:07 (thirteen years ago) link
Hating Danaerys as she is cast. That part needs a true Scandanavian ice queen with wisp-fine white-blonde hair and hauteur she can wrap around herself like a cloak to shut out her inside from the outside. Not a cheap bottle job with brown eyebrows and too much blusher.
Everything else otm^10.
― Back up the lesbian canoe (Laurel), Monday, 18 April 2011 14:28 (thirteen years ago) link
wife and i thought the pilot was great btw and we're totally onboard for the time being. so is this supposed to only be six episodes as the opening season (like walking dead) or is it just that reviewers have only seen the first six episode and we're going to have a more 13 episode season. bc it seems that with the cast of characters they've got, and the amount of written content Martin has produced, they could easily write episode after episode of compelling material.
― Mordy, Monday, 18 April 2011 14:37 (thirteen years ago) link
wikipedia says 10 eps
― just sayin, Monday, 18 April 2011 14:38 (thirteen years ago) link
I believe the first season is going to be ten episodes.
― allmypulp, Monday, 18 April 2011 14:39 (thirteen years ago) link
Ian! We'll review the first ep next week -- maybe we need to ALWAYS re-watch the prev ep before the new one is on? Makes a nice evening with good company even a bit longer.
Plus I want to AWWWWW at the WOLF PUPPIES again.
― Back up the lesbian canoe (Laurel), Monday, 18 April 2011 14:40 (thirteen years ago) link
haven't watched this yet, hope to tonight
did ppl dig it?
― fat fat fat fat Usher (DJP), Monday, 18 April 2011 14:40 (thirteen years ago) link
Loved. Loved.
― Back up the lesbian canoe (Laurel), Monday, 18 April 2011 14:42 (thirteen years ago) link
I watched this while my wife futzed around with her phone, her comments were something along the line of "every time I look up there are boobs wtf"
thought the eps was disappointing overall. the opening sequence was *really* well done, pretty much the main reason I tuned in after seeing the preview. set design + cinematography + acting were top notch but I don't get all the hurrahs for the script. characters were weakly written. and the danerys + drago sequences came off like some harlequin skinemax weaksauce.
haven't read the books but it seemed like this would only appeal to someone who loved them?
― if u see l ron this weekend be sure & tell him THETAN THETAN THETAN (Edward III), Monday, 18 April 2011 14:42 (thirteen years ago) link
It's not about elves and shit.
― Back up the lesbian canoe (Laurel), Monday, 18 April 2011 14:43 (thirteen years ago) link
wolves and shit
― if u see l ron this weekend be sure & tell him THETAN THETAN THETAN (Edward III), Monday, 18 April 2011 14:47 (thirteen years ago) link
laurel i've read them, i'm just saying that the look they've gone for with this pretty broadly telegraphs ELVES AND SHIT. 'dragons and shit' would have accomplished the same admittedly
― thomp, Monday, 18 April 2011 15:01 (thirteen years ago) link
And had the advantage of being accurate.
― Back up the lesbian canoe (Laurel), Monday, 18 April 2011 15:18 (thirteen years ago) link
Waiting for Carcetti to arrive
― calstars, Monday, 18 April 2011 15:51 (thirteen years ago) link
i hated what i read. the show has the advantage of not being written in terrible fantasy trope language. (gritty fantasy or not.)
― Mordy, Monday, 18 April 2011 16:43 (thirteen years ago) link
and some of the cgi is so impressive that it's more like LOTR where you don't care that it's a theme you've seen a dozen times. like the guard riding out past that huge wall was OMG impressive.
not being written in terrible fantasy trope language.
Man, if you think GRRM is "terrible fantasy trope language", you better just stay away from the genre completely, because, imho, he's one of the least worrisome offenders for this type of thing.
― 'what are you, the Hymen Protection League of America?' (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 18 April 2011 16:48 (thirteen years ago) link
I agree with Mordy.
I like fantasy more on screen than on the page, generally.
― reggaeton for the painfully alone (polyphonic), Monday, 18 April 2011 16:49 (thirteen years ago) link
this show seems ok
― ─►.butt.tko (Lamp), Monday, 18 April 2011 16:50 (thirteen years ago) link
I have never read the books and haven't read much fantasy, but I enjoyed this. Some problems that I'll write off as pilot-issues but I'm looking forward to the rest. We'll know in the next 3 or 4 episodes just how much being a fan of the book matters.
― Gukbe, Monday, 18 April 2011 16:50 (thirteen years ago) link
also theon never does anything interesting
― ─►.butt.tko (Lamp), Monday, 18 April 2011 16:51 (thirteen years ago) link
martin's not a great stylist, but i stopped noticing/caring about 1/3 of the way into GoT - that's not really why you read this stuff anyway
― cum dude (Princess TamTam), Monday, 18 April 2011 16:51 (thirteen years ago) link
i had a hard time getting into Book 1 but was looking forward to this. It's great so far but have to agree with this:
"and the danerys + drago sequences came off like some harlequin skinemax weaksauce"
also, drago wedding fight scene was some Star Trek : TOS lolz but with tits and rape.
― akm, Monday, 18 April 2011 17:45 (thirteen years ago) link
the title/credits sequence with the little clockwork gameboard showing all the locales is v. awesome imo. and supposedly it changes from episode to episode depending on where stuff's happening
― ciderpress, Monday, 18 April 2011 19:09 (thirteen years ago) link
really? thats a nice touch!
― VegemiteGrrl, Monday, 18 April 2011 19:19 (thirteen years ago) link
not sure if thats true, i just remember reading it somewhere
― ciderpress, Monday, 18 April 2011 19:21 (thirteen years ago) link
i hope it's true...we'll have to check the next set of credits to see
― VegemiteGrrl, Monday, 18 April 2011 19:25 (thirteen years ago) link
― cum dude (Princess TamTam), Monday, April 18, 2011 11:51 AM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
^word up
― the zing cheese incident (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 18 April 2011 20:12 (thirteen years ago) link
This is why I don't read much fantasy lit. Wish I could get past it but I can't.
― reggaeton for the painfully alone (polyphonic), Monday, 18 April 2011 20:13 (thirteen years ago) link
martin's prose is functional but he certainly does like to tell you what color people's doublets are.
― difficult listening hour, Monday, 18 April 2011 20:17 (thirteen years ago) link
he likes to say "nearly a man grown"
― the zing cheese incident (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 18 April 2011 20:20 (thirteen years ago) link
at least westeros' weird seasons thing invalidates the "she had seen barely thirteen summers" sort of thing because you just know he'd be dipping in that well like once per page
― difficult listening hour, Monday, 18 April 2011 20:23 (thirteen years ago) link
dude is a perv tbh
― the zing cheese incident (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 18 April 2011 20:27 (thirteen years ago) link
strikethrough, pimp, http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_JjTZojojDPI/SxPR-ffvWkI/AAAAAAAAAok/bzrrZEsb1T4/s1600/0007stfc.jpg &c &c
― ─►.butt.tko (Lamp), Monday, 18 April 2011 20:31 (thirteen years ago) link