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Pampering? haha No. The shop has to be open seven days a week. The only pampering I can do is stuffing myself. ;-) (Which I realize is NOT good but it alleviates the sickness a bit.) Also, we just discovered OPhelia has the measels (from the creche). ARGH!

― nathalie, Thursday, 29 March 2007 09:14 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh lordy - are you rubella immune, nath???

― C J, Thursday, 29 March 2007 09:20 (seventeen years ago) link

shit, i mean chickenpox.

― nathalie, Thursday, 29 March 2007 09:28 (seventeen years ago) link

Ah shit, I just read the effects it can have on a foetus. :-((((((((((((((((

― nathalie, Thursday, 29 March 2007 09:38 (seventeen years ago) link

But YOU don't have chickenpox, right?

― schwantz, Thursday, 29 March 2007 15:48 (seventeen years ago) link

Well, I'm not sure I had it as a child. I think I had *something*, probably chickenpox, as a teenager. But I'm not sure. So we had to take my blood. I'll know next week (argh!) if I'm immune. If not, then I hope we're in time for some immunization. :-(

― nathalie, Thursday, 29 March 2007 15:55 (seventeen years ago) link

Good luck to you... I'll keep my fingers crossed.

― schwantz, Thursday, 29 March 2007 15:59 (seventeen years ago) link

My mom had chicken pox while pregnant near me, near the end. I turned out okay. (I think)

Hopefully you won't get it Nath so you won't have to worry! I hope you feel better soon.

― Ms Misery, Thursday, 29 March 2007 16:06 (seventeen years ago) link

Well, near the end ofyour pregnancy isn't as hazardous as the first twenty weeks. When you are pregnant, the first three/four months are the riskiest. If I have chickenpox (before they can immunize (?)) me then the baby can not only die, it can, if it survives the ordeal, develop a range of problems ranging from shortened limbs to cataract (?). That said, my doctor says that most people have had it during childhood (even when they didn't show the signs) and are thus immune to it. I think it's about 95 procent. Even if I didn't have it, they will probably be in time to give me an injection.

If you have it the last couple of days before your delivery, then they have to inject the baby with something, I think.

In short: this has been one hellish ride so far for me. I feel completely crap. I also think I managed to *dry myself out*. I need to drink more. I am also going to pop a Dafalgan cause of my splitting headache. :-(

― stevienixed, Friday, 30 March 2007 09:48 (seventeen years ago) link

Sorry it's been such a rollercoaster so far Nath, I'm sure you'll have had chickenpox already, and you and baby will be fine.

Matt - hope the scan went well! How are you finding cooking for a pregnant woman?! Are you being ultra cautious, or are you throwing some of the overly strict precautions to the wind?

I am in the honeymoon period of pregnancy :0) Feeling great, got a bump, can feel little squirrel wriggling without it keeping me awake at night... (sorry to rub it in Nath, but I'm sure it won't be long before you turn the corner....) We've bought a buggy (with car seat and carry cot) too, thanks to Pam (Mike's mrs and Ava and Lulu's mum) and our second scan on wednesday went fine, no problems at all so far.

Lovely twin fluff, they're so gorgeous! But we need more piccies on this thread!

― Vicky, Friday, 30 March 2007 10:39 (seventeen years ago) link

Schwantz - we love the Bumbo seat. We also used to take pix of Ava in it, perched on top of things, but worried Social Services would come after us if we posted them anywhere ;)

I'm entirely confident everything will be fine for Nath. There you go.

Lulu is now almost rolling over and remains a pretty easy baby (up to 16lb now), even if it took us 40min to pacify her last night at bedtime. Ava is well into her naughty phase (I hope it's a phase) - she thinks throwing food is more fun than eating it and has explosive tantrums at every opportunity (last night, she agreed to a bath and then went ballistic once I got her up there). The transition to her own bed is having mixed results - two nights recently she's wailed at the safety gate in her doorway for 20min before falling asleep on the wooden floor but last night, with the help of fairy lights on a timer, we did get her to stay in her bed until 4am. Oh, and bathtime last night was carnage.

Here's Tallulah doing her bit for the Dairy Marketing Board:

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/184/432867681_2f6fd22a62.jpg

And here's Ava weighing up the possibilities during a slightly more successful mealtime:

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/177/427241284_a67bb6dce0.jpg

― Michael Jones, Friday, 30 March 2007 12:29 (seventeen years ago) link

Sorry about mentioning last night's bath twice - that's what happens when you compose a post over half an hour inbetween work things - though it was so traumatic there's a chance I might bring it up again.

Did I mention Ava's bath last night?

― Michael Jones, Friday, 30 March 2007 12:31 (seventeen years ago) link

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/145/437627723_e03e91b38c.jpg?v=1175094082

Before the red spotty state. ;-)

Vicky, no, you're not rubbing it in at all! You're giving me hope again. :-)

― stevienixed, Friday, 30 March 2007 18:32 (seventeen years ago) link

Hi guys, no interweb yet in new house wahhhh!

Just had to check in on my fellow parents though. And parents-to-be! Hope things improve for you nath and for mrs coastaltown, and continue well for you vicky :)

Alice is taking to the new abode very well although we've discovered that our donated cot is missing some vital pieces so she's still in with us at the moment, and she's been a bit poorly after her jabs last week.

And please send us good thoughts on Thursday which is the day of Alice's lip repair. I'm going to miss her wide grin :(

― Archel, Saturday, 31 March 2007 10:36 (seventeen years ago) link

Good thoughts coming your way! I'm sure she'll still be pretty cute.

― Beth Parker, Saturday, 31 March 2007 12:34 (seventeen years ago) link

I love you guys but I have been too crazy busy to post here much. In the last few weeks, Emma has made her stage debut in "The Music Man" (rocked it), Sammy is still tap dancing but has also had his Little League baseball tryout and been assigned to a team (oh god oh god oh god please don't let him be on a team with a meathead jerk coach and mean little bastards on the team, or else let him be good so they like him), my wife has had an emergency appendectomy, and I've started a new fancier job (at the same company) so that I can conceivably make more money to pay for it all.

Good luck to all, many good thoughts to Alice/Matt/Archel for the surgery, and love to all. Okay back to lurking until we hear about the adoption thing.

― Dimension 5ive, Saturday, 31 March 2007 14:55 (seventeen years ago) link

Archel, I'll be thinking of you and Alice. I am sure it'll be a smooth operation, but I realize that's a cliche comment cause as a parent you're still worried.

Matt, how was the scan?

The pharmacist gave me PrimPram which apparently can make morning sickness disappear. I still a bit nauseous but I am feeling a teeny weeny bit better.

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/167/440597678_7a23d060d9.jpg?v=0

First signs of chickenpoxyfuled.

― stevienixed, Sunday, 1 April 2007 06:42 (seventeen years ago) link

Archel, hope all goes well with the op.

Vicky, are you finding out the gender?

We are making good progress with bedtimes - Howie went down without a peep at 9pm yesterday, and only woke twice in the night (12.30 and 4) before getting up for the day at 7. As if to compensate, daytimes are getting trickier - he's awake more and more, but not yet in any kind of nap routine, and if he goes too long without sleeping he turns into an overtired grizzle-monster. Tried to put him in his crib for a nap for the first time this morning, but he screamed the place down, so had to go for a long walk in the pram instead.

― Meg Busset, Sunday, 1 April 2007 12:18 (seventeen years ago) link

I discovered that I once had chickenpox so the baby's safe from harm and 2 I was drinking so little that probably caused the headaches/morning sickness. I had the same thing when I was pregnant with Ophelia: I always forget to drink, it's silly really.

Ophelia has been sleeping in our bed the last week or so. She wakes up at 4 am and screams. As I'm so crap, I think "what the hell" and put her in our bed. But I think we'll have to *grit our teeth* (?) and ferberize a bit. She's feeling much better and I think it's time she learned that sleeping with us is the exception, not the rule. *sigh*

Archel, good luck on thursday!

― nathalie, Tuesday, 3 April 2007 12:02 (seventeen years ago) link

Good news, Nath!

It's been four days, so time to post another goofy snap of the hellion:

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/175/441930890_01ce327660.jpg

― Michael Jones, Tuesday, 3 April 2007 12:08 (seventeen years ago) link

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/182/443704980_8e44cea8ef.jpg?v=0

Choco and chickenpox :-)

― nathalie, Tuesday, 3 April 2007 12:10 (seventeen years ago) link

Hello everyone. :) :) :)

― Dimension 5ive, Friday, 6 April 2007 15:31 (seventeen years ago) link

hee hee hee

― Dimension 5ive, Friday, 6 April 2007 15:32 (seventeen years ago) link

wow

― Dimension 5ive, Friday, 6 April 2007 15:32 (seventeen years ago) link

*freaking out, a little*

― Dimension 5ive, Friday, 6 April 2007 15:39 (seventeen years ago) link

:D !!! spill!

― teeny, Friday, 6 April 2007 16:24 (seventeen years ago) link

we got our referral

― Dimension 5ive, Friday, 6 April 2007 16:25 (seventeen years ago) link

but i aint sayin nothing else for right now

― Dimension 5ive, Friday, 6 April 2007 16:25 (seventeen years ago) link

Whoa! :-)

― Ned Raggett, Friday, 6 April 2007 16:49 (seventeen years ago) link

Robin (as in Zander) would be a fine name either way.

― Ned Raggett, Friday, 6 April 2007 16:49 (seventeen years ago) link

How are Alice, Archel and Matt?

― Beth Parker, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 01:25 (seventeen years ago) link

Static electricity + trampoline = exploded hair state.

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/190/453045601_995f2ba6b3.jpg

― Michael Jones, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 09:04 (seventeen years ago) link

Yes, I was asking myself that question, Beth. I hope they are doing well.

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/233/453783947_d65a368302.jpg%3Fv%3D0

11 weeks! Hopefully morning sickness will subside. The baby is extremely active, pretending to be a breakdancer on speed when we did the ultrasound. ;-)

― nathalie, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 10:30 (seventeen years ago) link

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/233/453783947_d65a368302.jpg?v=0

Will THIS work? If not, well, uh...

― nathalie, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 10:31 (seventeen years ago) link

Hi guys,

All went well with Alice's op although it was pretty damn stressful and emotional. The surgeons did a great job (despite leaving her with a stunning black eye) and she's recovering really quickly.

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/232/449393981_f0b505596b.jpg?v=1175952838

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/239/449389312_95766a3d94.jpg?v=1175952688

― Archel, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 10:42 (seventeen years ago) link

Archel, is she home already? How is she coping with the stitches? How's eating?

I love love LOVE her *pink eye lids* (Is that how you say it??)

― nathalie, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 10:54 (seventeen years ago) link

Hurrah! Very glad to hear things went OK. She appears to be just as gorgeous as before (black eyes tend be cuter on toddlers, but she wears it well).

― Michael Jones, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 10:58 (seventeen years ago) link

Awww, what a little sweetie! Hope she coped ok and didn't find it too traumatic

Nath- yay on the little bean! Is 11 weeks where you thought you were, or is it a bit further along? Hopefully the morning sickness will start to ease off soon, fingers crossed.

Meg - a very belated answer- we're not finding out the sex, keeping it as a surprise. I hope the bedtime progress has continued!

― Vicky, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 11:09 (seventeen years ago) link

No, we had calculated the exact date! This is because I had quit the pill on O's borthday and knew when I had my period. So we sort of knew EXACTLY when the baby was conceived. heh Morning sickness *should* disappear at around 13 weeks, the OBGYN promised. (Or I'm asking for a refund. hahahaha) Next month we'll probably know the gender. Yes, I wanna know. :-)

― nathalie, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 11:17 (seventeen years ago) link

Good to see Alice looking chipper!

― Madchen, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 16:26 (seventeen years ago) link

Aw, Alice babykins!

― Beth Parker, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 23:54 (seventeen years ago) link

AND spotty O!

― Beth Parker, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 23:54 (seventeen years ago) link

my brother had the first baby out of all of us today.

girl, dark curly hair, seven pounds four ounces. she's gorgeous, photos to follow.

chuffed at being an uncle, but as there's no rolling uncling thread i thought this was next appropriate.

― darraghmac, Wednesday, 11 April 2007 02:34 (seventeen years ago) link

Okay so I guess I'll just say it here: we got our referral for our adoption, about to accept it as soon as we get one more test result (which is why I didn't say anything before now, but I just kinda can't wait anymore so there). She's an adorable wonderful cool smart-looking little thing, just four months old this week, we'll probably be traveling early this summer *knocks wood* and then I can finally post some pictures, not yet though because it is illegal.

― Dimension 5ive, Thursday, 12 April 2007 14:12 (seventeen years ago) link

:-D

― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 12 April 2007 14:14 (seventeen years ago) link

Without trying to be flippant, I honestly think that if I ever became a father, it would be through adoption. I think it's an extremely cool thing your family is doing. :-)

― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 12 April 2007 14:15 (seventeen years ago) link

Are the pox gone, Nath?

Aw, wee Alice and her black eye! She looks as beautiful as ever, I'd love to have a cuddle with her!

― luna, Thursday, 12 April 2007 16:01 (seventeen years ago) link

Congrats Haiuknym!

I would definitely love to adopt. but I still would want to have one too.

yay for Alice! (and Nath's in progress)

― Ms Misery, Thursday, 12 April 2007 18:23 (seventeen years ago) link

Flickr doesn't work on my Macbook for some unknown firewall-based reason so I can't see all these lovely baby pix :(

But glad Alice's op went well.

Howie is doing well, he went to bed at 8.30 and my husband is down the pub so I am about to sit down with a glass of wine to watch Starsky & Hutch - a rare treat. He has been waking us in the night flailing his arms and legs wildly and crying out, but while he's fast asleep - doesn't seem to bother him, but hard for us to sleep through! So I'll probably be asleep after the first sip.

Oh, and he has baby acne so not such a handsome boy any more... hope it clears up soon!

― Meg Busset, Thursday, 12 April 2007 20:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Aw but baby acne rules!

― Dimension 5ive, Thursday, 12 April 2007 20:04 (seventeen years ago) link

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