People Who Live In Suburbs: Classy, Icky, or Dudes?

i mean, i spent 5+ years at lolOberlin. it's kind of the quintessential small liberal town. a little icky in parts, but overall, a very nice town with everything a small town comes with, just with a more friendly and libertine air.

I think iatee is saying that there's ALREADY the population density in the outer boroughs of NYC to support whole new train lines that would go to places people really need to go.

The problem, as someone already said today, is that when you build trains to connect suburbs, you still need a car to go where you're going when you get there. It's not that the trains wouldn't be useful AT ALL, they just are less useful overall and they don't substitute for driving within the suburban community. Or something.

but not everyone who lives off the subway system in ny owns a car - in fact many of these nyc 'suburban' neighborhoods are super dense as far as america goes and already have lower car ownership rates than most 'big cities'. lots of people do drive, but that might not work if you work in midtown. most people just have shitty commutes and unnecessarily inconvenient lives on overwhelemed bus lines.

can you explain how you're classifying Laurel's Brooklyn trips as different from my familial ones?

a. she is taking a bus or a train
b. she is in brooklyn so she is probably 'cooler' than you

in order to take the train from my place to hers it'd mean 1st going all the way to Union Station to transfer. Would be 2hr journey.

ia, my second paragraph was about Chicago, that was probably only clear inside my head. That's how the trips are different.

granny I'm sorry but the fact that your town has shitty transit access is not the killer argument you think it is

what is my argument?

why dont' you tell us instead of being snarky and having weird meltdowns

i'm just not getting why you're in favor of connecting east-west NYC via rail but connecting north-south Chicago is mockable.

I don't know how far out in chicago you live, but connecting two suburbs w/ passenger rail generally doesn't make sense as increasing service to urban areas because the density and ridership isn't there.

connecting two extremely dense parts of new york makes a lot of sense because there are a ton of people who are just waiting there for a train to come for them, even in really far out parts of new york city. eventually a bus comes for them instead and then they take that bus to a train.

make as much sense as*

and yet the planning commission has recommended just such a thing

well that's marvelous

thanks for contributing

American city planning commissions have been shown to act wisely, efficiently, and with the publics interest in mind in the past

oh god, now y'all know more than the planning commission. it never ends.

danny can you, in a few sentences, state what your position even is? i really have no idea

er 'granny'

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I think he thinks I have it out for his imaginary train

I don't even know where he lives, also I am for all trains, ever

having a definable position on something like ~the suburbs~ makes no sense to me, but I agree w/your statement earlier: i don't think there is an optimal way of living! people should pay for what they're getting, is the point. because the real costs will be always be paid, somehow, in the end

cool man, everything is ~relative~

i dunno how many times ppl have made the distinction that 'the suburbs' is not a very precise term and not exactly what people have a 'position' on in any case

then what do you want my position on?

no i think i got it

marvelous

depends on what type people they are

brodie otm

I have no idea what's going on itt now.

it got hit by broburban spawl

it's like regular sprawl except all transportation is done via a complicated system of bellhops

http://www.theonion.com/articles/chrysler-introduces-new-midsized-sedan-for-inhome,20295/?utm_source=recentnews

La Vie Broheem

http://news.9ask.cn/fcjf/UploadFiles_8740/201001/2010011817135859.jpg

is that china?

yuh

http://m.guardian.co.uk/world/2005/may/10/china.jonathanwatts?cat=world&type=article

Now, he is held up as a national hero. But he says the guiding principle is simple. "People here have five aims in life: money, a car, a house, a son, and respect. We give them that. Every family here is rich. Our target now is to make all of China rich."

Daughters, on the other hand, are a burden - right?

It's gonna suck when your son has no prospective spouse. Better hope he's gay.

he can marry a car

the dating scene in china is pretty brutal fyi

there was an article in the...nyt I think? about how girls in beijing wouldn't marry anyone who didn't own property

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/15/world/asia/15bachelors.html

yah p much

don't you get points for being american??

kind of but I'm not a banker or businessman or anybody w a 'future' so it's a wash

:(

oh yeah imna msg you on fb for something unrelated

haha ok cool

actually the dating scene in hk is heaps better than the mainland but uh theirs all sorts of weird dynamics

I feel like such a jerk, being in an area with all these dateable women and just kind of chilling in my own house.

Life's hard, here in 'merica