Twin Peaks: Fire Walk With Me - Classic or Dud [spoilers]

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you mean "Good Morning America"?

Jay Vee (Manon_70), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 04:21 (nineteen years ago) link


One significant day in my life

By David Lynch

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Jane - May, 2004

A significant event occurred in my life the day I learned that our human physiology, our body, is made of consciousness.

Consciousness???

"What???" I asked out loud in wonder.

I learned that our human physiology is so magnificent and complex, and so exquisite in its design and makeup, as to be wondrous beyond imagination. We are spun out of unbounded, infinite, eternal consciousness.

I learned that underlying all matter is a vast, unbounded, infinite and eternal field of consciousness called the Unified Field. I found out that modern science started taking this field seriously about 25 years ago and that all matter is unified at this level in a state of perfect symmetry, or balance. The entire universe emerges from this field in a process called "spontaneous sequential symmetry breaking."

Are you still with me?

I also learned that there is another science called Vedic Science. This Vedic Science is ancient, and it has always talked of the Unified Field.

Interesting!

Veda, I learned, means "total knowledge." The home of total knowledge is the Unified Field. It is also the home of all the laws of nature. The branches of Veda, 40 in total, make up the language of the Unified Field, the impulses of this eternal field.

I realized this Unified Field is quite an interesting place. It is not manifest and is full, meaning it is no thing, yet all things in potential. It manifests and permeates all things: the whole universe, everything, while still remaining full and not manifest.

Amazing!

Is this mind-boggling or what?

Now comes the hippest part. I have learned that any human being can "experience" the Unified Field.

Really?

Or: So what?

Why in the world would we care to experience the Unified Field?

First, another question.

Have you ever heard that most of us human beings use only 5 percent of our brain, our mind? Have you ever wondered what in the heck the other 95 percent is all about?

This is the beautiful part coming up.

The "experience" of the Unified Field actually unfolds "enlightenment"-higher states of consciousness culminating in Unity Consciousness, the highest state of consciousness. These higher states use that 95 percent of the brain. That is what the 95 percent is there for-to give us permanent, all-time enlightenment.

Now, what is enlightenment? If you were a lightbulb, let's say, your "glow" might light up your whole house and surrounding yard. In enlightenment, your "glow" would be unbounded, infinite and eternal. That would be some glow!

Enlightenment is fulfillment. Supreme fulfillment. Unbounded, infinite, eternal bliss, consciousness, intelligence, creativity, harmony, dynamic peace.

Enlightenment, I have learned, is our "full potential." It is the birthright of every human being to enjoy enlightenment.

Is this good news? I think it is such good news.

In Vedic Science, the Unified Field is called "Atma." Translated, that is "Self"-the Self of us all.

The Unified Field is not something foreign, or even something far away. It is right within each of us at the base of our mind, the source of thought. A great sage from the Himalayas, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, brought a beautiful gift to our world in the form of Transcendental Meditation. Transcendental Meditation is an easy and effortless, yet supremely profound, technique that allows any human to dive within and experience that unbounded ocean of pure bliss, pure consciousness. the Unified Field, our Self.

It may be interesting for you to know that millions of people are practicing Transcendental Meditation all around the world. People from all religions, and all walks of life. Over 600 studies have been done in universities and research institutes validating the profound benefits of Maharishi's Transcendental Meditation Program.

Having this kind of knowledge and technologies of consciousness available to us in this age is, in my mind, a significant event. Yet the "experience" of that Unified Field is the most significant event, because it unfolds what we truly are-totality.

David's movies'inciude Eraserhead, Dune, Blue Velvet and Mulholland Drive. He is looking forward to Creating World Peace Day, to be held mid-September at the Maharishi University of Management in Fairfield, Iowa (www.mum.edu).

amateur!!!st (amateurist), Monday, 6 September 2004 07:05 (nineteen years ago) link

Fuck that's horrible.

Dan I. (Dan I.), Monday, 6 September 2004 09:22 (nineteen years ago) link

He pulled out the "people only use x% of their brain" bullshit!

Dan I. (Dan I.), Monday, 6 September 2004 09:24 (nineteen years ago) link

He could have at least been up-to-date enough to replace that with cellular automata or something.

Dan I. (Dan I.), Monday, 6 September 2004 09:25 (nineteen years ago) link


amateurist, your theory, please!!!!

"i'm as blank as a fart."

amateur!!!st (amateurist), Thursday, 16 September 2004 02:12 (nineteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...
I watched this last night.

cºzen (Cozen), Friday, 8 October 2004 10:39 (nineteen years ago) link

not very good is it?

stelfox, Friday, 8 October 2004 11:04 (nineteen years ago) link

I am as blank as a fart.

cºzen (Cozen), Friday, 8 October 2004 12:23 (nineteen years ago) link

Is that a traditional scottish saying?

Howard Wine (nordicskilla), Friday, 8 October 2004 13:01 (nineteen years ago) link

Quebecois, surely.

The only, only reason why FWWM might now be as good as the TV show is that the little boy who hangs out with his grandma is not the same actor they used in the TV series. In the TV show, the boy was obviously Lynch's grandson or something because he looked exactly like a child version of Lynch. It made me giggle like crazy.

Dan I., Friday, 8 October 2004 16:41 (nineteen years ago) link

ten months pass...
so classic

morris garage (Jody Beth Rosen), Sunday, 28 August 2005 06:04 (eighteen years ago) link

Oh! Oh! I heard Lynch is planning to shoot some TV movies based around Agent Dale Cooper, but unrelated to Twin Peaks. Kyle Maclachlan is reported to be on board. I assume these would have to be "prequels", given what happens to Cooper in the final episode.

Actually, I should point out this rumour appears to be of the "overheard conversation at lunch" variety and thus far from confirmed, but speculating is always fun.

http://filmforce.ign.com/articles/642/642262p1.html

Philip Alderman (Phil A), Sunday, 28 August 2005 13:12 (eighteen years ago) link

I need to finish borrowing the second season tapes from HPENCIL.

this show fucking rules!!! great thread!!!

Ian John50n (orion), Sunday, 28 August 2005 13:54 (eighteen years ago) link

b-b-b-b-b-ut KYLE MACLACHLAN IS OOOOOOOOLD!

cutty (mcutt), Sunday, 28 August 2005 13:56 (eighteen years ago) link

"The little man / giant stuff fits into Barker so well, these things are neither Gods, aliens or whatever, they're just something other"

i also like how the show incorporates UFO mythology (Major Briggs' 'abduction', the whole Project Blue Book thing, flashing lights, etc.) in a similar way as John Keel's 'the Mothman Prophecies' or Whitley Strieber's 'Communion', by putting it within a more occult/esoteric/mystic perspective rather than the usual science fictional approach. Even to go as fat s appropriating the owl imagery from Communion.


Even going

latebloomer: funky like a monkey and as cool as a cat (latebloomer), Sunday, 28 August 2005 15:43 (eighteen years ago) link

that should've read:

Even to go as far as appropriating the owl imagery from 'Communion'.

The show had a very keen understanding of occult/dream 'logic'.

latebloomer: funky like a monkey and as cool as a cat (latebloomer), Sunday, 28 August 2005 15:45 (eighteen years ago) link

b-b-b-b-b-ut KYLE MACLACHLAN IS OOOOOOOOLD!

-- cutty (holle...) (webmail), August 28th, 2005 9:56 AM. (mcutt) (later)

its ok because HE BOFFS SUPERMODELS. old supermodels, yes.

sunny successor (he hates my guts, we had a fight) (katharine), Sunday, 28 August 2005 15:57 (eighteen years ago) link

the show was the greatest soap opera ever. designed to go on forever being weird and funny and creepy and hammy.

just rewatched FWWM for the first time in ages. i remember being disappointed with the movie initially because i felt it trying to explain away some of the show's mysteriousness. or something. for instance: oh i see. they're all complete coke heads! but, rewatching it, i noticed something about the coke. there's the scene near the end. laura is doing giant rails of coke and the camera pulls back and she's in bed. doing rails to go to bed! doesn't make sense. but it's the night where she sees her dad rather than bob "having her." meanwhile, her mom, who has just been gently forced by leland to drink something it's safe to assume is drugged, is having restless sleep and visions of a white horse or whatever. it's safe to assume that leland has been drugging his wife and laura for years ("he's been having me since i was 12" laura told her therapist). by doing the rails of coke, laura was able to counteract the drugs and see her dad. it's this kind of explaining-away of things that i initially didn't like about the film, but i've made peace with that i think, because ultimitely it still doesn't even begin to explain the other dimmension death cult or whatever it is. i've just written way too much about this. again. sheesh.

andrew m. (andrewmorgan), Sunday, 28 August 2005 17:51 (eighteen years ago) link

one month passes...
DAVE LYNCH SEZ DRUGZ IS BAD

Jimmy_tango, Tuesday, 18 October 2005 01:36 (eighteen years ago) link

Oh! Oh! I heard Lynch is planning to shoot some TV movies based around Agent Dale Cooper, but unrelated to Twin Peaks. Kyle Maclachlan is reported to be on board. I assume these would have to be "prequels", given what happens to Cooper in the final episode.

OMG!!!!

Roxymuzak, Mrs. Carbohydrate (roxymuzak), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 03:45 (eighteen years ago) link

this was officially denied a while ago, too bad

kyle (akmonday), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 04:53 (eighteen years ago) link

Mullholland Dr. opens with the sound of someone snorting a huge rail of coke.

Old School (sexyDancer), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 05:11 (eighteen years ago) link

two months pass...
P.S. One day I will treat you all to my thesis about David Lynch being afraid of poor people. I think this explains much of the stuff in his films. It is also a strong part of what makes them resonant to me, but also a little less than admirable perhaps.

AMATEURIST.

Special Agent Gene Krupa (orion), Thursday, 29 December 2005 05:50 (eighteen years ago) link

dude, i'm on vacation!

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Thursday, 29 December 2005 05:57 (eighteen years ago) link

there is no theory, dude. admit it. you were just bullshitting us.

Special Agent Gene Krupa (orion), Thursday, 29 December 2005 06:03 (eighteen years ago) link

it's a thesis, not a theory!

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Thursday, 29 December 2005 06:09 (eighteen years ago) link

I don't know if he's afraid of "poor people," exactly, or at least not exclusively. Rich people in his movies tend to be pretty grotesque and decadent too. There is a sense of the wholesome middle class as a bulwark against moral decay on all sides, at least in Blue Velvet and Twin Peaks (and The Straight Story, I guess). I don't know, though, I'm not sure as a whole that his stuff really tracks as classist. Eraserhead and Mulholland Drive don't really fit that mold. It's hard to pin him down ideologically, even given his ostensible Reagan Republicanism. It's all so Freudian and idiosyncratic. You can trace his neuroses to gender/race/class anxieties up to a point, but they're so specific and personal that they don't fit neat categories. Plus it's hard to tell when he's "just joking," or if he even knows the difference. Weird guy. Even though I was there when it happened, it still seems unreal to me that "Twin Peaks" was on American commercial broadcast television. The first Bush administration was, in retrospect, a pretty weird time.

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Thursday, 29 December 2005 06:34 (eighteen years ago) link

(and obv. in twin peaks the middle-class bulwark is breached and the evil is actually right at its center. really, lynch's moral universe derives most directly from noir, which implicates everyone.)

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Thursday, 29 December 2005 06:46 (eighteen years ago) link

five years pass...

Despite awful moments, his second best of the nineties.

The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 1 August 2011 21:00 (twelve years ago) link

Kinda think it's his second best period.

third-generation stripper (Eric H.), Monday, 1 August 2011 21:02 (twelve years ago) link

what's your first?

remy bean, Monday, 1 August 2011 21:16 (twelve years ago) link

Either Mulholland Drive or Inland Empire, depending on which side of the bed I woke up on.

third-generation stripper (Eric H.), Monday, 1 August 2011 21:17 (twelve years ago) link

now i want to know what alfred thinks is his first-best of this period.

king of torts (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Monday, 1 August 2011 21:25 (twelve years ago) link

The Straight Story!

The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 1 August 2011 21:27 (twelve years ago) link

his creepiest film

The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 1 August 2011 21:27 (twelve years ago) link

haha i always forget the straight story came out in the '90s tbh.

king of torts (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Monday, 1 August 2011 21:30 (twelve years ago) link

i have still never seen fwwm.

king of torts (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Monday, 1 August 2011 21:31 (twelve years ago) link

every time I watch it I go from "lol what the hell is this mess" to terrified and crying by the end of it

time to put it in hi geir (WmC), Monday, 1 August 2011 21:40 (twelve years ago) link

Sheryl Lee is almost as heartbreaking as Naomi Watts.

The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 1 August 2011 21:41 (twelve years ago) link

fwwm is great. so is wild at heart. the rest of you can go suck it fwiw imho

dell (del), Monday, 1 August 2011 22:13 (twelve years ago) link

too many acronyms to worry about

The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 1 August 2011 22:14 (twelve years ago) link

this is one weird-ass movie so far

king of torts (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Monday, 1 August 2011 22:15 (twelve years ago) link

i keep waiting for large marge or some other pee-wee character to show up

king of torts (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Monday, 1 August 2011 22:15 (twelve years ago) link

The first half hour is fun but rather pointless cept for Keefer blinking blankly at the waitress ("You wanna hear the specials? We have none"). And Bowie in a Magnum P.I. shirt.

The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 1 August 2011 22:16 (twelve years ago) link

i rented this when i was like thirteen and it really freaked me out

℗⎣▲✘ (ico), Monday, 1 August 2011 22:23 (twelve years ago) link

My first Lynch movie -- I was eighteen. Lots of scenes in this movie are at that level.

The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 1 August 2011 22:24 (twelve years ago) link

Yes. Love the scene in that barn-club with the drugged-out neo-rockabilly band playing like Dwight Yoakam produced by Brian Eno.

The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 1 August 2011 22:28 (twelve years ago) link

Uh, that NME link didn't go where I wanted it to.

1. Twin Peaks: Fire Walk With Me

Sugar-coated Satan Sandwich (Dan Peterson), Monday, 1 August 2011 22:29 (twelve years ago) link


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