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Sorry about everything, carl.
― Orson Wellies (in orbit), Monday, 24 August 2015 20:49 (eight years ago) link
1. NP is certain the IUD is gone but wants me to schedule an ultrasound to be safe, which sure. Fine. 2. I experienced an abnormal amount of bleeding. 3. If you expel a Mirena w/in 90 days of insertion they'll replace it for free. 4. If you expel one there's an increased chance of expelling another. 5. I couldn't talk them into an elective hysterectomy. :|6. The nurse and both NPs I saw would have fished the suspicious clot out of the toilet and confirmed it was the IUD so E, you are in good company.
― carl agatha, Tuesday, 25 August 2015 14:58 (eight years ago) link
7. The NP went up into my cervix with a cytobrush to see if there was anything lodged in there and now my cervix hurts and that is upsetting to me.
― carl agatha, Tuesday, 25 August 2015 15:11 (eight years ago) link
Oh God, carl, you have really had maximum hassle from this thing :/
― ljubljana, Tuesday, 25 August 2015 17:38 (eight years ago) link
ikr??? I have discussed the situation with my partner and we have agreed that I will not be taking advantage of the Mirena 90 day reinstallation offer.
― carl agatha, Tuesday, 25 August 2015 18:10 (eight years ago) link
No, I thought you might politely decline that kind offer.
Meanwhile, my three-month (or whatever) stint of bleeding has begun even though I'm still finishing a pill pack.
― ljubljana, Tuesday, 25 August 2015 20:05 (eight years ago) link
5. I couldn't talk them into an elective hysterectomy. :|i understand why but this is messed up
― La Lechera, Tuesday, 25 August 2015 20:20 (eight years ago) link
ugh anything in & around the cervix area is the worst, sending hugs to u carl
― Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 26 August 2015 01:35 (eight years ago) link
"Women Don't Need to Have Periods"
http://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2015/09/no-periods/403894/
― kate78, Wednesday, 9 September 2015 23:38 (eight years ago) link
*wistful sigh*
That's interesting about breakthrough bleeding being incorporated into BCPs because women wanted it. I always assumed it was some paternalistic thing on the part of the developers.
― carl agatha, Thursday, 10 September 2015 01:45 (eight years ago) link
I remember reading somewhere that women now have way more periods than women used to because in ye olden times women spent the majority of their reproductive years either pregnant or breastfeeding (which for a large majority of women stops them from getting their periods) so that you can sort of view the way women get their periods now as "unnatural".
― Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Thursday, 10 September 2015 14:55 (eight years ago) link
I've never minded mine tbh. I actually kind of like it because it reminds me of what I'm (presumably) capable of and that's pretty fucking amazing to think about. Also, I think I have it pretty easy in terms of pain and duration etc.
― Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Thursday, 10 September 2015 14:56 (eight years ago) link
I like it bc it reminds me that I'm not pregnant.
Here's a q: Can long term use of bc pills/hormonal bc cause the growth of or exacerbate ovarian cysts?
― La Lechera, Thursday, 10 September 2015 16:25 (eight years ago) link
no -- given that increased gonadotropin stimulation is thought to contribute to the development of ovarian cysts, and given that oral contraceptives work to block the secretion of gonadotropins from the pituitary, if anything the use of OCs should be beneficial in people with cysts. in fact OCs are first-line therapy for people with PCOS
― usic ally (k3vin k.), Thursday, 10 September 2015 16:59 (eight years ago) link
that article kate posted was pretty good for the most part btw
thank you for the thorough and informative answer!
― La Lechera, Thursday, 10 September 2015 18:11 (eight years ago) link
i read about half of this before i had to nope out due to omfg it reminds me of something from a cronenberg moviehttp://www.washingtonpost.com/sf/style/2017/07/26/essure/?utm_term=.63970eddcc94
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 26 July 2017 17:20 (six years ago) link
I got to 'There, the inserts, which do not contain or release hormones, help generate scar tissue that blocks the tubes.' and thought 'hmm sounds reliable' :/
― kinder, Wednesday, 26 July 2017 20:32 (six years ago) link
Other factors might also have influenced doctors’ enthusiasm for Essure. For one thing, it takes less time to implant the device than to perform tubal ligation surgery in a hospital. Then there are the reimbursement rates. In 2011 documents created by Conceptus for its sales team, the company estimated that a doctor who inserted 60 Essure devices a year would net $66,747.78, or slightly more than $1,100 per device. By contrast, a physician is reimbursed about $510 by private insurance for surgical sterilization in a hospital, according to Amino, a company that uses U.S. insurance claims data to help consumers estimate health-care costs.Barbara Levy, vice president of health policy at the American Congress of Obstetricians and Gynecologists and a former consultant to Conceptus, says the higher reimbursement rate is meant to cover office overhead and the equipment necessary to insert Essure, not to serve as an incentive for doctors to recommend Essure over tubal ligation. But Robinson argues that the rate does present an incentive, “and it’s supposed to.” He believes that the idea behind the Essure reimbursement rate is to steer doctors away from the more costly hospital-based procedure.The problem with a procedure that reimburses well, Robinson contends, “is that everybody jumps onboard: ‘Oh, I’m going to do Essures and I’m going to pay my kids’ college tuition.’ ” But Essure isn’t appropriate for every woman, he says, and should be inserted only by doctors who understand and can manage the risks.Like many of the women I spoke to, Angie Firmalino, 45, says that her doctor recommended Essure. Shortly after her 2009 procedure, which she says was excruciating, the Tannersville, N.Y., woman began having constant bleeding and pain. She developed joint problems that she attributes to an autoimmune response and had to have surgery to remove the coils. The operation left fragments behind and resulted in a hysterectomy. She’s still dealing with chronic pain, muscle weakness and blood circulation problems, which she also thinks are autoimmune related.In 2011, Firmalino decided to start a group on Facebook to share her experiences with female friends. Then, strangers started requesting to join and “telling their horror stories, some worse than mine,” she says. Soon the Essure Problems group had hundreds, then thousands of women. They wrote graphic descriptions of their pain and blood loss, fatigue and weight gain; they posted pictures of their thinning hair and bloated bellies that could be mistaken for marking the weeks of pregnancy. And they shared the stranger symptoms: joint pain, sudden muscle weakness, skin rashes. “That’s when the talk started about what is this device made out of?” Firmalino says. “Then we discovered there’s nickel in the device. None of us knew.”
Barbara Levy, vice president of health policy at the American Congress of Obstetricians and Gynecologists and a former consultant to Conceptus, says the higher reimbursement rate is meant to cover office overhead and the equipment necessary to insert Essure, not to serve as an incentive for doctors to recommend Essure over tubal ligation. But Robinson argues that the rate does present an incentive, “and it’s supposed to.” He believes that the idea behind the Essure reimbursement rate is to steer doctors away from the more costly hospital-based procedure.
The problem with a procedure that reimburses well, Robinson contends, “is that everybody jumps onboard: ‘Oh, I’m going to do Essures and I’m going to pay my kids’ college tuition.’ ” But Essure isn’t appropriate for every woman, he says, and should be inserted only by doctors who understand and can manage the risks.
Like many of the women I spoke to, Angie Firmalino, 45, says that her doctor recommended Essure. Shortly after her 2009 procedure, which she says was excruciating, the Tannersville, N.Y., woman began having constant bleeding and pain. She developed joint problems that she attributes to an autoimmune response and had to have surgery to remove the coils. The operation left fragments behind and resulted in a hysterectomy. She’s still dealing with chronic pain, muscle weakness and blood circulation problems, which she also thinks are autoimmune related.
In 2011, Firmalino decided to start a group on Facebook to share her experiences with female friends. Then, strangers started requesting to join and “telling their horror stories, some worse than mine,” she says. Soon the Essure Problems group had hundreds, then thousands of women. They wrote graphic descriptions of their pain and blood loss, fatigue and weight gain; they posted pictures of their thinning hair and bloated bellies that could be mistaken for marking the weeks of pregnancy. And they shared the stranger symptoms: joint pain, sudden muscle weakness, skin rashes. “That’s when the talk started about what is this device made out of?” Firmalino says. “Then we discovered there’s nickel in the device. None of us knew.”
did not know there was nickel in itdid not ask women if they were allergic to nickelbodily horror follows
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 26 July 2017 21:40 (six years ago) link
even shitty Etsy sellers tell you when their jewellery contains nickel ffs
― kinder, Wednesday, 26 July 2017 22:18 (six years ago) link
seriouslywhy does it take investigative reporting to find out that these fallopian-tube hosted coils of pain aren't working the way they are supposed to?! "i could pay my kid's tuition with this" not a good answer.
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, 27 July 2017 12:28 (six years ago) link
god... horrific
― Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 27 July 2017 19:00 (six years ago) link
corrosive coils of horror
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, 27 July 2017 19:59 (six years ago) link
tooth decay? what the ever-loving hell
when I was partway into the article I was thinking it sounded similar to some of the male contraception options that are being tested that involve plugging up the vas deferens, but those are more of a rubber type of substance and not NICKEL wtf
― mh, Thursday, 27 July 2017 20:23 (six years ago) link
Cybersex for the win I guess
― | (Latham Green), Sunday, 23 October 2022 17:04 (one year ago) link