Polyamory

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(Basically, dating multiple people from day one is cool. Doing it after you've been together exclusively for years is trouble.)

x-post: I'm not sure if that's a euphemism... But obviously, like every relationship, it is going to be decided by you and her.

bnw (bnw), Friday, 18 July 2003 21:43 (twenty years ago) link

i don;t think i've ever regretted a thread more, even the holocaust jokes one

jess (dubplatestyle), Friday, 18 July 2003 21:45 (twenty years ago) link

You're going to have to be doing a lot of that whilst you watch N. get ready for her dates, accept phone calls for her from other guys, and wait for her (not) to come home.

Mary (Mary), Friday, 18 July 2003 21:45 (twenty years ago) link

another is "don't put your fucking hang-ups on me"

jess (dubplatestyle), Friday, 18 July 2003 21:47 (twenty years ago) link

i mean, honestly mary, and no offense, you sound like the catholic mother of my worst nightmares and i do not fucking need that right now, or ever, really

also, "guys"? hetero-sexism springs forth again, and again, and again on this thread.

jess (dubplatestyle), Friday, 18 July 2003 21:48 (twenty years ago) link

Ha ha Jess you're the one asking for advice on this thread. If you were happy with your situation, I doubt you would have brought it up. Note, I'm not warning Ms. Laura against the perils of her relationship, which she seems perfectly happy in.

Hmm, just got your second post, if you're happy I'm happy, but you don't sound happy.

Mary (Mary), Friday, 18 July 2003 21:51 (twenty years ago) link

okay, something weird happened when i tried to lock the thread and like everything before my revival got deleted.

jess (dubplatestyle), Friday, 18 July 2003 22:09 (twenty years ago) link

anyway, i'm relocking it because i feel like i am on a fucking operating table and it's not a nice place to be. this thread needs to go away.

jess (dubplatestyle), Friday, 18 July 2003 22:11 (twenty years ago) link

actually, i decided against it after talking with mark s. do whatever you want with it. i am locking myself out of ilx.

jess (dubplatestyle), Friday, 18 July 2003 22:13 (twenty years ago) link

Jess - For what it's worth, I can say that unless you and your primary lover/partner are at a very strong point in your relationship; if you don't know just where each of you stands in the eyes of the other and in your own view; if you don't know what you want from each other or from the relationship, then it's pretty darn likely that bringing-in additional people is going to be a stress that will fracture what is between you and your S/O. I'd really encourage you and she to sit and talk and talk and talk - honestly - about your fears and your dreams. Unless you are both secure and know that you're in it for the long run, then an additional person will probably lead to jealousy and insecurity and anger.

I'd also recommend checking-out the following two books (Amazon carries them):

The Ethical Slut: A Guide to Infinite Sexual Possibilities
by Dossie Easton, Catherine A. Liszt

and

Polyamory: The New Love Without Limits: Secrets of Sustainable Intimate Relationships
by Deborah M, Dr. Anapol

(They're the only 'self-help' books that I've ever read that I thought were worth the time ... well, the only ones that aren't purely about sex stuff.)

Also, there's a book called Three in Love which is a look at historical polyamorous relationships - it can be a real eye-opener, though many of those relationships did not last.

In regards to Mary's comment about sitting at home while your S/O prepares for a date and intimacy with someone else ... that does happen, and it can be painful. You need to know that you can accept that pain and isolation, and your S/O needs to know the same. I'd suggest that, especially at first, getting to know others be done by both of you, so you know who that other person is and don't feel as pushed aside as you might well feel, initially.

Finally, seek out some on-line or real-time support and discussion groups - you'll run into the typical horny and annoying teenage males, but you'll also find some people who can provide you with insight and support.

I'm Passing Open Windows (Ms Laura), Friday, 18 July 2003 22:15 (twenty years ago) link

Dude, if you're going to be so touchy about people who don't agree with you, then don't start a discussion about your life. And everyone brings their own hang-ups when they post, including those who agree with you.

bnw (bnw), Friday, 18 July 2003 22:26 (twenty years ago) link

(Also if it doesn't work out, I'll make some bright eyes cds for you. Ha.)

bnw (bnw), Friday, 18 July 2003 22:27 (twenty years ago) link

*spits chips*

Good god people, have some sensitivity. Jess was looking for advice, yes, but also some reassurance. Telling him his relationship is doomed is not exactly helpful.

RickyT (RickyT), Friday, 18 July 2003 22:33 (twenty years ago) link

While agreeing with someone b/c you are afraid of hurting their feelings is so very helpful.

bnw (bnw), Friday, 18 July 2003 23:10 (twenty years ago) link

Ally is smart.

catholicmother (Mary), Saturday, 19 July 2003 00:29 (twenty years ago) link

mary the irony of you decrying polyamory is not lost on me, thanks.

jess (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 19 July 2003 01:52 (twenty years ago) link

best of luck jess. i mean it. speaking as someone who might one day end up in a similar situation, i really hope it works out for you both.

di smith (lucylurex), Saturday, 19 July 2003 02:02 (twenty years ago) link

thank you di. i know we've gotten into our mess of scraps on the boards, but i mean that.

jess (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 19 July 2003 02:10 (twenty years ago) link

Jess, I think you and N. need to talk about what is going on.

I'm the other guy? Who knew?

N. (nickdastoor), Saturday, 19 July 2003 02:16 (twenty years ago) link

i'll cut you, mang.

jess (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 19 July 2003 02:18 (twenty years ago) link

god this is like revisiting the scene of the crime or something

jess (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 19 July 2003 02:19 (twenty years ago) link

best of luck. hope everything works out for the best for the both of you.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Saturday, 19 July 2003 08:08 (twenty years ago) link

Jess, honestly, I didn't see this reviving as some auto-bio of yr life and I still don't get what everyone is talkign about.

I only think you've brought up some good arguements.

Perhaps as someone wbo is still dealing with this herself, I appreciate it. But I think this is a good thread, dumb-ass responses and all.

oh, and ESOJ, I'm completely serious.

That Girl (thatgirl), Saturday, 19 July 2003 08:17 (twenty years ago) link

i'm a little far away though :(

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Saturday, 19 July 2003 13:20 (twenty years ago) link

Jess, I don't know you and your girlfriend. Chances are, opening up your relationship to other people will be the best thing that ever happened to either of you. As this step has not yet been taken, I was simply trying to give my * opinion* of the matter. You seemed bummed out about the whole thing, so I was suggesting that as nothing has happened yet, there is still time to rethink it. If you had posed the scenario as already-in-progress I would have dealt with it on its own terms. If you are having problems dealing with this issue in the abstract, things are likely to get much worse as they become concrete. I think your anger to me on this thread is misplaced -- ie, it is really directed at N.

Mary (Mary), Saturday, 19 July 2003 14:19 (twenty years ago) link

i still don't see why I get the blame.

N. (nickdastoor), Saturday, 26 July 2003 01:08 (twenty years ago) link

because blaming HStencil is played out?

Texas Sam (thatgirl), Saturday, 26 July 2003 01:10 (twenty years ago) link

Can't we all just learn to love each other? We could call it polyamory or something.

N. (nickdastoor), Saturday, 26 July 2003 01:11 (twenty years ago) link

how bout you just eat my fuc instead

strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 26 July 2003 01:13 (twenty years ago) link

Yeah, that's OK too - whatever!

N. (nickdastoor), Saturday, 26 July 2003 01:15 (twenty years ago) link

Tomorrow I am making cookies that spell F, U, C, and K. I really want to pass them around on a plate saying "here, eat my 'fuc(k)'"

rosemary (rosemary), Saturday, 26 July 2003 04:21 (twenty years ago) link

I've decided to let the girlfriend fuck whoever she wants. Pretty nice of me huh? Especially since she dumped me about 3 years ago

dave q, Saturday, 26 July 2003 14:57 (twenty years ago) link

five years pass...

who the hell is otis

lol (roxymuzak), Monday, 23 February 2009 05:54 (fifteen years ago) link

og poster from '01

velko, Monday, 23 February 2009 05:57 (fifteen years ago) link

ha i think we gathered that dude

suggban stevens (J0rdan S.), Monday, 23 February 2009 05:58 (fifteen years ago) link

name: Otis

suggban stevens (J0rdan S.), Monday, 23 February 2009 05:58 (fifteen years ago) link

well, i mean he was here a lot, not just some dude who posted a few times and split.

velko, Monday, 23 February 2009 06:00 (fifteen years ago) link

holy shit i posted on this thread haha...i believe in yesterday

GLEEPGLOP BLOOPBLORP (nickalicious), Monday, 23 February 2009 07:17 (fifteen years ago) link

/ paul mccartney

GLEEPGLOP BLOOPBLORP (nickalicious), Monday, 23 February 2009 07:17 (fifteen years ago) link

http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/7425/imageuploadimage.jpg

----> (libcrypt), Monday, 23 February 2009 13:36 (fifteen years ago) link

Velko, are you some OG poster too? What name did you previously use?

Tuomas, Monday, 23 February 2009 13:40 (fifteen years ago) link

Christ I have no idea who I was referring to in my example way back in 03... but if it is who I suspect, he's since married and settled down, haw.

one art, please (Trayce), Monday, 23 February 2009 20:16 (fifteen years ago) link

Otis was a dude that Jordan S. and his friends gathered

nabisco, Monday, 23 February 2009 20:17 (fifteen years ago) link

Also a friend of Ally's and one reason for the founding of ILE

nabisco, Monday, 23 February 2009 20:17 (fifteen years ago) link

Otis Redding - I've been loving youn

and how (PappaWheelie V), Monday, 23 February 2009 20:20 (fifteen years ago) link

Odd the train of thought that led me from here to how do i become a mason .

----> (libcrypt), Monday, 23 February 2009 20:43 (fifteen years ago) link

five years pass...

weird thread upthread but let's do the all important thing where we ignore stuff from 5 years ago.

simple maybe stupid question, maybe better suited for the genderqueer thread but thought i'd put it here--anybody have resources on navigating being a straight primary partner for a queer person? their desires are ~not about me~, obviously, but i could use some help or advice dealing with the strange feeling i get when i stay home while they go for a prowl at pride.

purposely lend impetus to my HOOS (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Monday, 2 June 2014 16:01 (nine years ago) link

(also, as a favor to me, i'd appreciate it if folks didn't get real 'girl/boy problems' thread on me--this isn't a 'relationship problem,' just a request for help if folks can direct me to any.)

purposely lend impetus to my HOOS (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Monday, 2 June 2014 16:11 (nine years ago) link

If you're not into the polyamorous thing then you should discuss it with your partner. The worst thing you could do imo is pretend you are okay with something you're not. You will start feeling resentful, and then suppress this feeling because you feel bad about feeling it, and then your partner will pick up that you are repressing feelings of discomfort and feel guilty, but then resent you for making you feel guilty, and then feel guilty again for resenting you when you never explicitly said you felt weird about what she was doing in the first place, etc.

Treeship, Monday, 2 June 2014 16:14 (nine years ago) link

(sorry i didn't read your second post. hope you find relevant info hoos)

Treeship, Monday, 2 June 2014 16:15 (nine years ago) link


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