Can we give some love to the unsung/underrated MEN of the 60s/70s?

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hartford gets a lot of hipster kisses in my household.
so does jerry jeff! they're some faves.

is paul siebel getting the kisses he deserves? i like all of the jesse winchester records i've heard too. bobby charles is getting some kisses lately, i think. mark spoelstra. mike auldridge. where are the legions of norman blake fans? i love a lot of those sixties/seventies bluegrass guys.

one dis leads to another (ian), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 20:57 (twelve years ago) link

where is the love for patrick sky? i know skot's a fan.

one dis leads to another (ian), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 20:57 (twelve years ago) link

ralph mctell!

one dis leads to another (ian), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 20:58 (twelve years ago) link

conway twitty! his 60s/70s country hits rule

http://www.morethings.com/music/conway_twitty/hee_haw126-1974/never_been_this_far1974hee_haw24.jpg

backlash stan straw man fan (m coleman), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 20:58 (twelve years ago) link

happy & artie traum are my prime example of this i think. i fuckin love those two records on capitol so much, and nobody cares.

one dis leads to another (ian), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 20:58 (twelve years ago) link

ian matthews and mickey newbury are gettin the reissue treatment now so i guess they can't count.
what about steve young?? his records are awesome.

one dis leads to another (ian), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 21:00 (twelve years ago) link

rock, salt & nails!

buzza, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 21:01 (twelve years ago) link

and yeah, i dunno about hip per se but i love all the early leon records.

one dis leads to another (ian), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 21:01 (twelve years ago) link

is early elton john in the hipster kisses canon? should be.

one dis leads to another (ian), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 21:02 (twelve years ago) link

ian you gotta hear this one. very good. not hip cuz i don't think even a lot of hip people have heard it. maybe its on a blog for people who like blogs, i dunno:

http://www.popsike.com/pix/20090818/180398341697.jpg

scott seward, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 21:02 (twelve years ago) link

there is definite love for early elton.

scott seward, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 21:03 (twelve years ago) link

yeah with those early elton records, it's nice to imagine that you're listening to some random 70s singer-songwriter rather than the circle of life guy. i've never been crazy about his voice, but the overall sound of those LPs is verrry nice.

tylerw, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 21:04 (twelve years ago) link

but it's a slippery slope -- when is someone going to come in here and start repping hardcore for early billy joel? 3 ... 2 ... 1?

tylerw, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 21:04 (twelve years ago) link

have never been able to get past the absolutely shit Bernie Taupin lyrics myself

S'cool bro, I only cried a little (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 21:05 (twelve years ago) link

well that red house painters guy got a couple of people to buy john denver albums so anything is possible.

x-post

scott seward, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 21:06 (twelve years ago) link

you know who needs more hipster kisses (also some reissues)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mg-GerS3-kU

S'cool bro, I only cried a little (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 21:06 (twelve years ago) link

and to be fair i don't think i've ever listened to an entire john denver album so maybe i'm missing out.

scott seward, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 21:07 (twelve years ago) link

al stewart springs to mind for me... his first 4 albums are pure gold

definitely agree he is unjustly ignored. when I ran a poll of his albums on ilm there was one vote and that was mine. but the mid-70s run of Past Present & Future, Modern Times and Year of the Cat has the edge over those early discs

ban this sick stunt (anagram), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 21:07 (twelve years ago) link

i will go to bat for leo sayer. there is a great compilation to be made of some of his more ambitious numbers. he had some weird shit on his albums!

scott seward, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 21:08 (twelve years ago) link

http://cdn3.iofferphoto.com/img/item/656/786/61/lp-john-denver-seasons-of-the-heart-backup-cd-c73a7.jpg
just photoshop the name out and you'd have hipsters falling all over themselves to give this record kisses on the cover alone.

tylerw, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 21:08 (twelve years ago) link

al stewart, gerry rafferty, and gary wright all had nice non-hit stuff that nobody listens to anymore. maybe beardo balearic people do though...

scott seward, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 21:09 (twelve years ago) link

wtf what a creepy album cover!

S'cool bro, I only cried a little (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 21:10 (twelve years ago) link

right? it's his On The Beach. actually it was recorded in 1990, so ...

tylerw, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 21:12 (twelve years ago) link

"where are the legions of norman blake fans? i love a lot of those sixties/seventies bluegrass guys."

95% of the rounder, fretless, and flying fish catalogs go unlistened to by anyone under 50.

scott seward, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 21:13 (twelve years ago) link

but it's a slippery slope -- when is someone going to come in here and start repping hardcore for early billy joel? 3 ... 2 ... 1?
― tylerw, Wednesday, June 8, 2011 9:04 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1M-_FFNYeR4

jaxon, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 21:13 (twelve years ago) link

boom!

tylerw, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 21:14 (twelve years ago) link

this Denver record is pretty tight.
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51S19QYk9pL._SS500_.jpg

tylerw, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 21:14 (twelve years ago) link

i've never listened to kenny rankin. my mom has the "after the roses" record at home but it looked shitty.

after listening to a few songs this one sounds pretty good

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzXTUk4TfSg

jaxon, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 21:15 (twelve years ago) link

michael franks is a great example of this. i wouldn't have gotten into him if it weren't for skot's praises

jaxon, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 21:18 (twelve years ago) link

i gotta listen to more of this dude's horse rock cuz i just know there is some poco-esque goodness in there somwhere

http://image.kazaa.com/images/15/602498628515/Michael_Martin_Murphey/Geronimos_Cadillac/Michael_Martin_Murphey_comp_Ray_Lewis-Ge_3.jpg

scott seward, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 21:18 (twelve years ago) link

al stewart, gerry rafferty, and gary wright all had nice non-hit stuff that nobody listens to anymore. maybe beardo balearic people do though...

Some love for "The Owl" and "City to City"!

The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 21:19 (twelve years ago) link

Paul Siebel gets played a lot in my house and that Jerry Jeff alum posted above is my favorite of his. I don't know why Steve Young isn't more popular?

JacobSanders, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 21:33 (twelve years ago) link

i love jimmy spheeris, and shawn phillips, dion's 70s singer songwriter albums (!), jake holmes (maybe he is loved?), ben sidran, cyrus faryar is my fucking dog, dogs, jerry corbit, kevin coyne, paul parrish, tim hardin

so into bernie leadon from the eagles lately. that album he did w/ Michael Georgiades is fucking fantastic.

jaxon, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 21:34 (twelve years ago) link

Who is reissuing Ian Matthews? And those first two JD Souther albums are nice, Rick Roberts too. and this guy I love
http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/2065/davidwiffen.jpg

JacobSanders, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 21:37 (twelve years ago) link

so whaddaya think is the tipping point for these artists to become "hip"? does will oldham need to come out as a Steve Young fan? does light in the attic need to reissue some john denver?

tylerw, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 21:38 (twelve years ago) link

Anyone ever heard the Steve Noonan album on Elektra? From '67 or '68. He was considered one of the "Orange Country three" along with Tim Buckley and Jackson Browne. The stuff on the album is probably a little closer in style to the early Browne songs (like the ones Nico and the Nitty Gritty Dirt Band did) than to Buckley.

timellison, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 21:52 (twelve years ago) link

hmm never heard noonan, sounds intriguing though.
how about this one (back on the byrds related tip)
http://rpmedia.ask.com/ts?u=/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/f2/TerryMelcher.jpg/220px-TerryMelcher.jpg

tylerw, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 21:55 (twelve years ago) link

melcher solo album gets some mojo love and the like. terry is one of my heroes in life.

scott seward, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 21:57 (twelve years ago) link

terry album and the boettcher solo album and john philips solo and dennis wilson album all in the same leaky boat. and the don agrati album.

scott seward, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 21:58 (twelve years ago) link

don agrati ... you've stumped me.

tylerw, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 22:02 (twelve years ago) link

he was on my three sons. made 60's sunshine pop records and made an early 70's brianwilson-esque album.

scott seward, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 22:04 (twelve years ago) link

Clifford T. Ward. As an introverted, anglophile teen I loved him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJazTKgm_s8&feature=related

Duke Manfist: Action Hero (Dan Peterson), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 22:09 (twelve years ago) link

the Gosdin Brothers' album (Sounds of Goodbye) seems to get lots of love, but this traditional bluegrass album (recorded 1963-4, released 1969) is fairly overlooked given the names involved. it's reminiscent of the Dillards' early work, only with less focus on hot picking and more on mild, pretty vocal harmonies:

http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/2500/18119.jpg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YH2oze9Bfs4

gtforia estfufan (unregistered), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 22:27 (twelve years ago) link

their third reunion album, released in 1966. the performances and material are easily equal to the records that made them famous in the '30s and '40s, but this doesn't seem to get that much attention:

http://img833.imageshack.us/img833/2785/bsbcapitol.jpg

gtforia estfufan (unregistered), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 22:41 (twelve years ago) link

Also Pete Dello from Honeybus and Pete Dello and Friends, or maybe he does get more attention? Has anyone heard Honeybus' 'Recital' from 73?

JacobSanders, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 22:50 (twelve years ago) link

That Midlake guy has been repping for Jimmie Spheeris something fierce.

Mucho! Macho! Honcho! (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 23:19 (twelve years ago) link

People who remember Andy Kim at all know him for a couple of mediocre '70s hits. He had a string of bubblegum hits in 1968 that I still love:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I39YrqDogMc

clemenza, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 23:28 (twelve years ago) link

http://i51.tinypic.com/aw2irp.jpg

I've never heard a whole album by Henson "Skip a Rope" Cargill, but the Omni Group put out a good compilation a few years ago. I unabashedly love his fuzzy, organ-drenched country-rock anti-conformity anthem "Reprints (Plastic People)" which appears on the album pictured above. the lyrics alone make it one of the unlikeliest things to come out of Nashville:

It's dawn
and the sun is rising over modern cities
baptist steeple
it's dawn
representing another routine day for modern cities
plastic people

all on the same road the same hour of the day
all tote the same road and head the same way
all wear the same suit and sing the same song
hear the merry piper's flute leading them along

carbon copies of uniformity
reprints, reprints are all I see
all from one line of assembly
plastic people surrounding me

It's night
and the moon is floating just above modern cities
bapist steeple
it's night
at 12:00 each dollhouse will go dark for modern cities' plastic people

at the stroke of midnight when they're all alone
they'll wonder if they've been right to think all on their own
all fear the same thing, mustn't go too far
yet all have same dream of changing what they are

also search "What's My Name", a Luke The Drifter-esque spoken word piece that might be the only song to namecheck both James Brown and Adolf Eichmann.

gtforia estfufan (unregistered), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 23:29 (twelve years ago) link

i dig jimmie. me and jaxon the only fans on here? probably pete 69 too. i can't GIVE jimmie spheeris records away at my store. guess cuz nobody has heard of him/them? i dunno. i tell people that they are good. and i sell them for practically nothing.

i should listen to that clifford ward album again. i know i have it somewhere.

scott seward, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 23:33 (twelve years ago) link

the album with skip a rope on it is really good!

scott seward, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 23:33 (twelve years ago) link

(several more we might mention reissued by xpost Josh R.'s label, already on the Tompkins Square thread).

Haven't heard GJ with Grinders Switch (not to be confused w the 70s Southern Rock group), but his self-titled debut is totally cool, like an imaginary album from the real transition of Dion: acoustic guitar grooves and denin jacket above, sharkskin suitpants and pointy leathah toetapping below. And already one of the best ever North American reggae performers, way ahead of the pack, such as it was---but his tracks held up well next to what was then the best known reggae album around here, The Harder They Come soundtrack). (Michael Cuscana adds juicy details, as on Bonnie Raitt's early classic Give It Up, did he produce any other rock etc. albums?)
Yeah, xpost Ghost Writer maybe his peak overall, but Escape Artist, with heavy friends perking along, is excellent too (I've got the original LP + bonus 7" EP feat. Linton Kwesi Johnson).
The King of In Between, from 4-5 years ago, has some rock geezer looks-at-life lyrics, but as usual he's got the vox, tunes, musos cookin' along.
Oh yeah, Mega Shebang is not the place to start w Low; def check those 70s albums I mentioned, also another one, Be Bop N Holla---and (maybe after that, Amen Corner's Singles As and Bs [the original "Bend Me Shape Me" for one] and his own transition from mod teenbeat, fronting mainstream x art rockers Fairweather).

dow, Friday, 5 August 2016 19:25 (seven years ago) link

Good to hear some more Scott McKenzie, and looks like the whole album may be there on the same page, track by track.

dow, Friday, 5 August 2016 19:41 (seven years ago) link

Fairweather Low got a good one-disc comp, Wide-Eyed and Legless, which gets the good stuff from those 3 A&M LPs (which are all found for cheap these days in used record stores, at least around here). Mega is Low on the downside of that career arc, but I quite like it anyway, Jeffreys strikes me as a neglected near-major artist--the Grinders Switch[, which is on Vanguard and is hard to find (I only found it a couple years ago), is one of the best Band rips in history, and as such is notable for the way Jeffreys twists the vernacular of the first 2 Band albums into something that begins to hint at the urban amidst the somewhat vague imagery. First solo is his folk-rock record and really unique, Ghost Writer is like the missing link between singer-songwriterdom and new wave--I hear some Television in it, whether or not it hit before the first Television album or he even knew who they were (probably did, given his astute reading of the marketplace back then), and Escape Artist is his Elvis Costello move, with "Jump Jump," maybe his single greatest recording, getting into Willful but Necessary Escape Routes from Oppressive History. King of In Between is a great album, and 2013's Truth Serum contains some pretty convincing blues, proof that he is comfortable doing just about anything. He came to Nashville in 2013 and I damn sure made it a point to write about him and interview him at length, here. Caught the show--he could still sing great.

Edd Hurt, Friday, 5 August 2016 19:50 (seven years ago) link

first garland i ever heard was his so retro it's new wave cover of 96 tears which i saw him do on the ABC show Fridays. first time i think i ever heard 96 tears.

scott seward, Friday, 5 August 2016 19:59 (seven years ago) link

i ALMOST bought the album at Caldor that next week but i chickened out.

scott seward, Friday, 5 August 2016 20:00 (seven years ago) link

a couple of years ago Garland played at this place about 50 feet from my store. he came in my store the next day and was devastated. he said it was the worst show he had EVER played. i spent about a half hour apologizing to him. even though i didn't have anything to do with it. i felt terrible.

scott seward, Friday, 5 August 2016 20:01 (seven years ago) link

(it was the venue owner's fault. he no longer owns/runs the place...)

scott seward, Friday, 5 August 2016 20:03 (seven years ago) link

Garland's show in Nashville wasn't hugely attended--seems like half the audience was writers old enough to have seen him when he last came thru town in the '80s, probably 1982. He's worked with Levon Helm sidemsn Larry Campbell a bit, and he's another guy the Americana crowd ought to give some kind of award to, because he helped invent the stuff.

Edd Hurt, Friday, 5 August 2016 20:11 (seven years ago) link

Speaking of xpost Steve Marriott, early AF Low: James Hunter is another English guy who can get the raspy Brownian grooves just right, currently in a "Ooo-Poo-Pa-Dooh'' type thang (PJ Proby was an American expat, but still):
http://livestream.com/pickathon/events/5911922

dow, Friday, 5 August 2016 20:20 (seven years ago) link

ian matthews and mickey newbury are gettin the reissue treatment now so i guess they can't count.
what about steve young?? his records are awesome.

― one dis leads to another (ian), Wednesday, June 8, 2011

Steve Young definitely deserves some kind of reassessment. Renegade Picker, from '76, has to be one of the most underrated country-rock records ever made. Rock Salt & Nails, from '69, also pioneering 'Mericana-outlaw-alt. Dead Voices: I did a Guy Clark story a few years ago, a fairly long one, and after I finished, Guy Clark asked me to deliver the paper with the story to him at his house. I wrote about Steve Young in the piece, since he'd appeared in the Heartworn Highwaysmovie along with Clark. Clark was in poor health. I got the paper, knocked on the door, waited a few minutes until a guy dressed in turquoise blue, with white hair, answered the door. I told him why I was there, and asked him, "I don't believe I know you." He said, "I'm Steve Young." Now they're both gone.
Yup, P.J. Proby. A great parody artiste. Three Week Hero's title track, from '69, was written by...John Stewart.

Edd Hurt, Friday, 5 August 2016 20:27 (seven years ago) link

Yeah, Young had the songs and a big voice, esp. for such a little guy. During a local stay, wrote "Montgomery In The Rain", "Seven Bridges Road"(AKA Woodley Rd., wise to use the older name), and others. Too overtly hip for mid-60s Alabama, too Southern to do without some cultural bemusement out West (Tosches said Young told him he was to perform at some Baez family event, the Farinas' wedding, I think, but Queen Joan nixed it, said she couldn't stand to look at a white Southerner just then)(however, she did record a good version of "Seven..." a few years later---fast tymes!).
Van Dykes Parks could prob relate, since his family was originally from Mississippi (though lived in Pittsburg before L.A.). Said he wrote "The All Golden" about Young ( I've never quite grokked that lyric, must listen again).

dow, Friday, 5 August 2016 20:46 (seven years ago) link

rock salt and nails by steve young is a serious hepcat totem. very hard to find a copy these days cuz people want it so much. a record that you could get for nothing for years and now it goes for $$$.

scott seward, Friday, 5 August 2016 22:18 (seven years ago) link

only ever seen that going for around about 30 (nz dollars) gene clark AND gram parsons are on it i believe!

no lime tangier, Friday, 5 August 2016 22:22 (seven years ago) link

This thread needs some Tony Joe White. Beyond the tunes and that lush low voice, his guitar playing is ace and he gets real funky with a wah wah on some tunes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agVThMVjnTM

That Murray Head tune up thread is good.

earlnash, Saturday, 6 August 2016 02:23 (seven years ago) link

that s/t tony joe white is hard to beat. i always listen to it 4 or 5 times in a row before i put it out in the store if i get a copy.

scott seward, Saturday, 6 August 2016 02:57 (seven years ago) link

say it ain't so joe is all time

dynamicinterface, Saturday, 6 August 2016 03:16 (seven years ago) link

Willie and Laura Mae Jones is an amazing tune.

earlnash, Saturday, 6 August 2016 04:59 (seven years ago) link

Here's Roger Daltrey doing "Say It Ain't So" with Andy Fairweather-Low on backing vocals (but not in the video) (and Moon's in the video, but not on the recording):
https://youtu.be/9bVGTVrQd6M

AF-W was also Townshend's stand-in while the Who started It's Hard, waiting for Pete to finish rehab. There's a couple songs on it without Pete/with A F-W.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 6 August 2016 07:14 (seven years ago) link

Thanks---forgot about his involvement w The Who; he also sang on a bunch of Who Are You tracks, also toured with them I think, later backed some Townsend solo activities etc.

dow, Saturday, 6 August 2016 19:40 (seven years ago) link

True about the Who Are You backing vocals, but AF-W didn't tour with the Who...are you thinking of Billy Nicholls (who also sang backup on Who Are You, and toured with them in 1989, 1996, and 1997) ?

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 6 August 2016 19:53 (seven years ago) link

Hadn't heard of Billy Nichols! Speaking of Garland J again, I was vaguely thinking this morning bout how he hung out with Reed and Cale way back, and have read that early VU sometimes covered his "Josephine", with Cale singing it---which cued up this GJ-written track in my headbox (if can't see it: "Fairweather Friend", as performed by Mr. JC on Vintage Violence)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GN1SkL8WsQo

dow, Monday, 15 August 2016 19:57 (seven years ago) link

ace sound, good video, even

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RzBZsOeqOQ

Wild in the Streets is my pride and joy. I consider it my "first" Rock 'n' Roll record, written and released in 1973, and recorded with Dr. John and his band, with Alan Freedman, Michael Brecker, David Sanborn, David Spinozza, David Peel, Produced by Roy Cicala..............
---Garland
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Single written and released in 1973. Also on the album "Ghost Writer" (A & M Records, 1977) and reissued on the album "I'm Alive" (Universal International, 2006).
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Garland Jeffreys: Lead vocal and acoustic guitar
John Boudreaux: Drums
Rick Marrotta: Drums
Johnny Ace: Bass
Alan Freedman: Acoustic electric guitar
Sugarbear: Electric guitar
Dr. John: Clavinet
Michael Brecker: Tenor sax
Randy Brecker: Trumpet
David Sanborn: Soprano sax
Phil Messina: Trombone
David Peel and Friends: Background vocals
Produced by Roy Cicala and Garland Jeffreys
Arranged by Garland Jeffreys and Dr. John
Recorded and mixed by Roy Cicala at Record Plant, 1973
Mastered at Atlantic
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Video compiled and edited by Doug Webb / Images by Webb (http://www.imagesbywebb.com).
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WILD IN THE STREETS (Music and Lyrics by Garland Jeffreys)

dow, Monday, 15 August 2016 20:10 (seven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vK8NQhn-ecI

dow, Monday, 15 August 2016 20:17 (seven years ago) link

"She plays a pure white slave"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MO_l81MljWI

dow, Monday, 15 August 2016 20:23 (seven years ago) link


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