i accidentally read some of that. the beyonce blurb wins by percentage of wrong sentences in one paragraph (100%). and who knew there were so many shitty indie bands in the world? IGNORE.
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 16 December 2008 17:12 (fifteen years ago) link
thou dost protest every fucking day even more tiresomely than the day before methinks
― The rickroll from the hilarious NEVER GONNA GIVE YOU UP, NEVER GONNA (some dude), Tuesday, 16 December 2008 17:13 (fifteen years ago) link
also: same as every other fucking list! godddd critical consensus is a downer these days.
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 16 December 2008 17:14 (fifteen years ago) link
less than half the top 20 is indie-rock type stuff and it's mostly decent (what i've heard).
― Timezilla vs Mechadistance (blueski), Tuesday, 16 December 2008 17:16 (fifteen years ago) link
"Blind" at #1 makes this the second year that a track featuring Antony is PFM's top single.
― total mormon cockblock extravaganza (jaymc), Tuesday, 16 December 2008 17:22 (fifteen years ago) link
If you take out Fleet Foxes, Deerhunter and M83 that isn't a bad top ten. Actually the Deerhunter one is okay but just bafflingly high.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 16 December 2008 17:28 (fifteen years ago) link
the M83 is great you menk
― Timezilla vs Mechadistance (blueski), Tuesday, 16 December 2008 17:33 (fifteen years ago) link
i think that was a cool choice for no. 1 tho def a weird blurb -- those blanket statements always sound weird to me
flipping thru the bottom 50 yesterday it struck me how similar a lot of the songs sound, even across diff genres -- like the tough alliance song doesnt sound too far off from the fleet foxes song (slow ambient + with acoustic guitar) -- a bunch of diff songs on the list had that same vibe.
― K DEF FROM REAL LIVE (deej), Tuesday, 16 December 2008 17:33 (fifteen years ago) link
"mopey" is the adjective you're looking for, i think
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 16 December 2008 17:37 (fifteen years ago) link
(slow ambient + with acoustic guitar) -- a bunch of diff songs on the list had that same vibe
― Suggest Ban Permalink (contenderizer), Tuesday, 16 December 2008 17:37 (fifteen years ago) link
If you take out Fleet Foxes, Deerhunter and M83 that isn't a bad top ten
i like most of the top 10 but the idea that those tracks are the BEST of 08 is baffling. my perennial beef as ever is that this indie-centric list is paid undue attention by people when it shouldn't be treated as a barometer of anything other than mopey indie, and the stuff in it is dragged into the critical centre. it doesn't reflect my year at all, thank fuck.
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 16 December 2008 17:39 (fifteen years ago) link
it doesn't have to reflect your year. it's their list, not yours.
― The rickroll from the hilarious NEVER GONNA GIVE YOU UP, NEVER GONNA (some dude), Tuesday, 16 December 2008 17:41 (fifteen years ago) link
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 16 December 2008 17:14 (27 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
It's certainly weird that critical consensus consists of critics reaching a consensus about things, totally.
― Go Go Padgett Binoculars (The stickman from the hilarious 'xkcd' comics), Tuesday, 16 December 2008 17:42 (fifteen years ago) link
The only song in that top 10 that I think could be described as "mopey" is Portishead, ffs.
― total mormon cockblock extravaganza (jaymc), Tuesday, 16 December 2008 17:43 (fifteen years ago) link
you dont expect him to have heard the songs surely? ;)
― Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 16 December 2008 17:46 (fifteen years ago) link
i like most of the top 10 but the idea that those tracks are the BEST of 08 is baffling
feel the same way about the Vibe list. many ok to good tracks but most of them wouldn't get in my own 100.
― Timezilla vs Mechadistance (blueski), Tuesday, 16 December 2008 17:48 (fifteen years ago) link
the beyonce blurb wins by percentage of wrong sentences in one paragraph (100%).
lol
― the usic man from the hilarious ilx message boards (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 16 December 2008 18:39 (fifteen years ago) link
Knowing what ta Pfork list is going to look like in general, their list isn't bad at all.
― beggin-ass keith (The Reverend), Tuesday, 16 December 2008 18:41 (fifteen years ago) link
i was glad to see "happy house" and "wearing my rolex" so high though i did notice that two writers listed "can't believe it" #1 but it didn't make the top 100 ~*~*curious*~*~
― the usic man from the hilarious ilx message boards (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 16 December 2008 18:43 (fifteen years ago) link
It's weird to say that the pfork list looks like all the others; that's really not the case. Still there aren't too many things blowing me away as I go through it. I guess it's just that since they're less indie-centric than ever the kneejerk indie haters sound particularly retarded.
― the ref (ed hochuli ha ha) (call all destroyer), Tuesday, 16 December 2008 18:44 (fifteen years ago) link
i did notice that two writers listed "can't believe it" #1 but it didn't make the top 100 ~*~*curious*~*~
― The rickroll from the hilarious NEVER GONNA GIVE YOU UP, NEVER GONNA (some dude), Tuesday, 16 December 2008 18:46 (fifteen years ago) link
the pop songs on the list puzzled me too - "love in this club", "single ladies" and "live your life"?
― the usic man from the hilarious ilx message boards (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 16 December 2008 18:46 (fifteen years ago) link
yah i found that really sorta random! esp love in this club -- single ladies is more understandable i think
― K DEF FROM REAL LIVE (deej), Tuesday, 16 December 2008 18:48 (fifteen years ago) link
those songs are awesome.
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Tuesday, 16 December 2008 18:48 (fifteen years ago) link
The 11-20 on the Pfork list is much better than the top 10.
xp: "Live Your Life" is great. I thought most, if not all, of us agreed on this.
― beggin-ass keith (The Reverend), Tuesday, 16 December 2008 18:48 (fifteen years ago) link
Single Ladies is super great.
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Tuesday, 16 December 2008 18:49 (fifteen years ago) link
love in this club is not that awesome
― K DEF FROM REAL LIVE (deej), Tuesday, 16 December 2008 18:50 (fifteen years ago) link
i like single ladies and live your life a lot but i didn't expect pitchfork writers to be rallying around either to be quite honest - "love in this club" is lazy/borderline reprehensible and has aged so awfully that it's not even funny
― the usic man from the hilarious ilx message boards (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 16 December 2008 18:53 (fifteen years ago) link
I CAN BREAK THESE CUFFS
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Tuesday, 16 December 2008 18:53 (fifteen years ago) link
also lolwtf @ "flashing lights" - was that a single in february or something? even so it feels 2 years old
i can break these cuffs is top 10 of the decade xp
― the usic man from the hilarious ilx message boards (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 16 December 2008 18:54 (fifteen years ago) link
I still can't tell Crystal Castles and Cut Copy apart
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Tuesday, 16 December 2008 18:55 (fifteen years ago) link
Yeah, I basically agree with that except the part for it being weird for them to rally around the first two. I mean, both are huge songs that are at least pretty good. It makes sense that a certain amount of PF writers have heard and like them. Why wouldn't it?
xxxxp
― beggin-ass keith (The Reverend), Tuesday, 16 December 2008 18:55 (fifteen years ago) link
"Flashing Lights" had its chart peak and video release around Jan/Feb, although honestly it was so popular as an album track in '07 that I'm surprised they didn't list it last year already. I was happy to see it, though, especially since it took the big Kanye spot on the list instead of something from 808s. I was scrolling down with dread convinced I would see "Love Lockdown" in the top 5 til I absolutely knew it wasn't there.
― The rickroll from the hilarious NEVER GONNA GIVE YOU UP, NEVER GONNA (some dude), Tuesday, 16 December 2008 18:56 (fifteen years ago) link
Then you haven't listened to them.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 16 December 2008 18:56 (fifteen years ago) link
"Love Lockdown" was #39
― beggin-ass keith (The Reverend), Tuesday, 16 December 2008 18:57 (fifteen years ago) link
haha o i missed that
― The rickroll from the hilarious NEVER GONNA GIVE YOU UP, NEVER GONNA (some dude), Tuesday, 16 December 2008 19:00 (fifteen years ago) link
i was kinda surprised that an 808s album track like "street lights" or "paranoid" didn't chart
― the usic man from the hilarious ilx message boards (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 16 December 2008 19:02 (fifteen years ago) link
I may be wrong, but I don't think they listed more than 2 tracks by any given artist.
― beggin-ass keith (The Reverend), Tuesday, 16 December 2008 19:05 (fifteen years ago) link
Still confused by love for "single ladies"--the random background synths are as annoying as fuck.
― the ref (ed hochuli ha ha) (call all destroyer), Tuesday, 16 December 2008 19:06 (fifteen years ago) link
I still can't tell Crystal Castles and Cut Copy apartThen you haven't listened to them.― Matt DC, Tuesday, December 16, 2008 1:56 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
― Matt DC, Tuesday, December 16, 2008 1:56 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
Well, I've LISTENED to them (i even relistened to the four songs they rank on the Pfork list) but they're both so incredibly boring and completely incapable of leaving any impression on me that I'm never left thinking anything beyond "I hate this music" and "people that listen to Belle And Sebastien dance to this"
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Tuesday, 16 December 2008 19:06 (fifteen years ago) link
Still confused by love for "single ladies"--the random background synths are as annoying sick as fuck.
odd that "time to pretend" makes p4k's list again!
― aaron d.g., Tuesday, 16 December 2008 19:08 (fifteen years ago) link
Yr all still crazy about "Love in This Club" it's #1 the best.
― Maciej (maciej recognizing trill), Tuesday, 16 December 2008 19:09 (fifteen years ago) link
AY!
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Tuesday, 16 December 2008 19:10 (fifteen years ago) link
I don't get Crystal Castles, but Cut Copy is a fantastic synth-pop band.
― total mormon cockblock extravaganza (jaymc), Tuesday, 16 December 2008 19:10 (fifteen years ago) link
based on the singles list fleet foxes are probably winning it all - maybe cut copy or portishead
btw were "flashing lights" and "no matter what" the two highest rated rap tracks? weird
― the usic man from the hilarious ilx message boards (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 16 December 2008 19:11 (fifteen years ago) link
yeah it's pretty easy to see why "belle & sebastian fans" like cut copy - 80s babies digging indie dudes doing 80s dance pop with huge choruses. seems like a no brainer
btw i <3 them
― the usic man from the hilarious ilx message boards (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 16 December 2008 19:13 (fifteen years ago) link
"Love In the Club" is the most boringly repetitive song of the year. The hook consists the exact same 2 bars of music over and over again without even the slightest variation.
― beggin-ass keith (The Reverend), Tuesday, 16 December 2008 19:13 (fifteen years ago) link
xpost on high-rated rap tracks--and A Milli, and the Wiley song.
― the ref (ed hochuli ha ha) (call all destroyer), Tuesday, 16 December 2008 19:14 (fifteen years ago) link