Tove Jansson RIP

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yay tove and tuulikki

i realised that i am the love child of the hemulen who loved silence and the fillyjonk who believed in disasters

(from the first i get my immese wisdom as a music critic, from the second my compassion as a political commentator ahem)

mark s (mark s), Thursday, 13 March 2003 12:04 (twenty-one years ago) link

yeah, he's a free spirit, and he's kinda moody always off chasing the sun.

sigh, swoon, sigh.

Anna (Anna), Thursday, 13 March 2003 12:19 (twenty-one years ago) link

three years pass...
I'm waiting for the second one to arrive at the library.

Mary (Mary), Friday, 29 September 2006 03:58 (seventeen years ago) link

four months pass...
I just found The Sculptor's Daughter at the Dunedin library, and so far it's incredible. The first story in it ("The Golden Calf") and "The Bays" are just bowling me over with greatness. It has a similar set-up to The Summer Book, centering on a child on a small island, but instead of being about the relationship between two characters, it's all about the child's mind, and all the odd and brilliant ideas and images within. I think some of the stories were reprinted in A Winter Book, which seems to be a Britain-only publication.

It's rather frustrating to look at Wikipedia and see that she wrote 8 or 9 books for adults that have never been translated into English. Someone needs to get on that.

clotpoll (Clotpoll), Wednesday, 7 February 2007 22:52 (seventeen years ago) link

Learn Swedish!

The Real Dirty Vicar (dirtyvicar), Thursday, 8 February 2007 15:57 (seventeen years ago) link

my comic book collection is "still on order"...

I love her perhaps more than any other author.

sleeve (sleeve), Saturday, 10 February 2007 08:19 (seventeen years ago) link

best tits evah

Frogm@n Henry (Frogm@n Henry), Saturday, 10 February 2007 09:05 (seventeen years ago) link

shit - wrong thread

Frogm@n Henry (Frogm@n Henry), Saturday, 10 February 2007 09:06 (seventeen years ago) link

I got the comic strip book back in November - it is pretty awesome. The drawings are all incredible. The adventures are a little more "contemporary" feeling than in the Moomin books, they seem to take place in the regular world as opposed to the world of Moominvalley. The humor is also slightly more "grown-up." I highly recommend.

Matt Olken (Moodles), Saturday, 10 February 2007 23:18 (seventeen years ago) link

three months pass...

Just read A Winter Book. "Messages" is amazingly bonkers:

-We are contacting you in connection with this year's marmalade promotion, in the first instance wondering if there would be any chance of a previously unpublished Moomin comic strip on the theme of marmalade

-Hi dear unknown fairy-tale auntie, we're a group of young folks with Ideas! What d'you think?

-Can't you draw me a Snufkin that I can have painted on my arm as a symbol of freedom?

-My cat's died! Write at once

On the other hand, the story made up of letters from a Japanese teenager is utterly heartbreaking.

clotpoll, Saturday, 2 June 2007 04:06 (sixteen years ago) link

one year passes...

I love love love this cover

http://www.nybooks.com/shop/product-file/31/thes7931/product.jpg

caek, Sunday, 17 August 2008 21:36 (fifteen years ago) link

i was just looking at that in the store the other day!

s1ocki, Sunday, 17 August 2008 21:51 (fifteen years ago) link

love nyrb press

s1ocki, Sunday, 17 August 2008 21:51 (fifteen years ago) link

I knew she was already dead.

I know, right?, Sunday, 17 August 2008 21:52 (fifteen years ago) link

xp, I love their covers. The only one I have is the John Collier one. I haven't been able to bring myself to read it yet though, because the typography is terrible. Letters too dark, too many lines on a page, really cheap pulpy printing : ( Are they all like that?

caek, Sunday, 17 August 2008 21:54 (fifteen years ago) link

It makes me really happy to see that on the recommended shelf at pretty much every bookstore I walk into.

clotpoll, Sunday, 17 August 2008 22:11 (fifteen years ago) link

Have there been any more English-language reprints of the Moomin comic strips after the one which came out a couple of years ago? Anyone who likes Jansson or the Moomins should check the comic out, I think it's pretty much just as good as the Moomin books, though a bit more adult-oriented in its themes. (Tove's brother Lars Jansson took over the strip after a few years, because she was unable to meet the deadlines, but his scripts for the comic are possibly even better than Tove's even if his art isn't always on the same level.)

Tuomas, Sunday, 17 August 2008 22:20 (fifteen years ago) link

There was a second volume, but I don't know if there are plans for further reprints.

clotpoll, Sunday, 17 August 2008 22:24 (fifteen years ago) link

Weren't the comics originally in English?

Volume 3 (of 5) comes out September 30 according to Amazon.

caek, Sunday, 17 August 2008 22:28 (fifteen years ago) link

I remember in the previous thread we had about them someone mentioned that they're only going to reprint the strips Tove did by herself. If so, that's a shame, because they're going to miss lots of great late 60s and early 70s stories... Like the ones where beatniks and hippies and anarchists visit Moominvalley, or when Moomintroll and Moominpapa get appointed as policemen and the authority goes to their heads, or when the Moomins travel to a Spanish holiday resort and try some drugs.

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I don't know what language the comics were originally were... I think they first started appearing in some British newspapers, but they were soon appearing in Finnish newspapers too. I assume Tove and Lars originally wrote them in Swedish or Finnish and someone else translated them into English.

Tuomas, Sunday, 17 August 2008 22:34 (fifteen years ago) link

Beatnik one sounds awesome.

caek, Sunday, 17 August 2008 22:37 (fifteen years ago) link

Actually, I think the beatnik episode might already be in one of Tove's strips, but the hippies and anarchists only come later. IIRC Snork Maiden falls in love with the beatnik guy, which obviously makes Moomintroll very jealous, even though he tries to deny it. I think the social commentary in the comics is rather interesting. It seems Tove and Lars were both quite liberal and generally left-leaning, so the hippies and other such characters are not portrayed unsympathetically, but being older than the radicals of the late 60s and early 70s the Janssons can also make gentle fun of their youthful earnestness.

Tuomas, Sunday, 17 August 2008 22:46 (fifteen years ago) link

i really dislike the comics, to be honest. (i've only read one volume of the Drawn and Quarterly ones.) gaggy, and don't hold a candle to the books.

sean gramophone, Sunday, 17 August 2008 23:32 (fifteen years ago) link

they are very different.

I just got Vol. 2 of the comics yesterday, I have really been enjoying it.

sleeve, Sunday, 17 August 2008 23:57 (fifteen years ago) link

Is that NYRB cover by Tove herself? It looks a bit like it.

The earlier NYRB books, and the ones that are new translations, are all nicly typeset, but the more recent ones which reprint previously published stuff just tend to replicate whatever the previous typesetting was, so sometimes you get nasty-looking pages like the Collier collection. It's a fantastic book, though!

James Morrison, Monday, 18 August 2008 00:27 (fifteen years ago) link

that 'Snork Maiden falls in love with beatnik' storyline is in the second D&Q volume (and is ace)

energy flash gordon, Monday, 18 August 2008 04:03 (fifteen years ago) link

i really dislike the comics, to be honest. (i've only read one volume of the Drawn and Quarterly ones.) gaggy, and don't hold a candle to the books.

IIRC the very first Moomin strips aren't the best of the bunch, and the series does get better as it goes on. But it's true that the comic does have a rather different tone than the books (even if the main charaters are pretty much the same): it's quicker paced, less contemplative and more anarchic, and deals more with the outside world (i.e. the "real" world) than the insular world of the Moominvalley. I think both the books and the comics are great in what they do, but I can see why someone who loves the books and possibly looks for the same qualities in the comic might be disappointed by it.

Tuomas, Monday, 18 August 2008 06:21 (fifteen years ago) link

I love them both, but suffer from cognitive dissonance caused by the way the characters are in parallel worlds, rather than the books and the comics taking place in the same universe.

James Morrison, Monday, 18 August 2008 10:56 (fifteen years ago) link

one year passes...

i just got all four volumes of the comics as a birthday present, and i think they're pretty cool. a somewhat different tone than the books yeah, but nicely peculiar and very identifiably moominish.

plus: they look nice on the bookshelf.

http://www.drawnandquarterly.com/images/moomin/moomincover.gif

flying squid attack (tipsy mothra), Monday, 14 September 2009 21:22 (fourteen years ago) link

just picked one up at the ny book festival -- totally amazing

Bay-L.A. Bar Talk (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 15 September 2009 01:47 (fourteen years ago) link

They're beautiful. Is vol 4 going to be the last?

When two tribes go to war, he always gets picked last (James Morrison), Tuesday, 15 September 2009 03:24 (fourteen years ago) link

i think there's one more to come.

flying squid attack (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 15 September 2009 04:20 (fourteen years ago) link

sorry, when I say "one" I mean a Tove Jansson book, but not one of the comics volumes.

Bay-L.A. Bar Talk (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 15 September 2009 05:14 (fourteen years ago) link

#4 is the last of the all-Tove or Tove/Lars comics. There’s enough material for another 1 volume of just Tove/Lars, and then 15 or so of all-Lars strips, but D&Q announced upfront that they would stop at the end of the Tove-only material.

Young Scott Young (sic), Tuesday, 15 September 2009 06:19 (fourteen years ago) link

There's a Vol. 4? I thought I only needed to add Vol. 3 to my collection. I got a picture book at the Brooklyn Book Festival too (last year I got Vol. 2 there). I think this is the same one that Hurting got: The Book About Moomin, Mimble and Little My

http://www.moomintrove.com/images/0953522741-0-large.jpg

Virginia Plain, Tuesday, 15 September 2009 14:31 (fourteen years ago) link

i only just found out how to pronounce little my the other day cuz i met a swedish girl who's name was my

just sayin, Tuesday, 15 September 2009 14:35 (fourteen years ago) link

uh-oh, how do you pronounce it? i've just been using the english pronunciation all these years, it could change my whole idea of the character if i have to say it differently...

flying squid attack (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 15 September 2009 14:41 (fourteen years ago) link

so is vol. 4 the last one? d&q initially announced 5, but i can't find anything on their site that says one way or another whether 4's the end.

flying squid attack (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 15 September 2009 14:42 (fourteen years ago) link

you pronounce it like 'mu' the greek letter - or that's what it sounded like to me

just sayin, Tuesday, 15 September 2009 14:43 (fourteen years ago) link

You guys should write some angry letters to D&Q to get them to release the Lars strips too. They're in no way worse to the Tove ones, the art may be somewhat inferior, but the plots get even more wacky and groovy. At least they should reprint the story where the Moomins travel to "Torrelorca" and buy some mind-expanding "LBJ" pills from a local drug den; that one is a genuine cultural artefact of the early 70s, and funny as hell too.

Tuomas, Tuesday, 15 September 2009 15:26 (fourteen years ago) link

so is vol. 4 the last one? d&q initially announced 5, but i can't find anything on their site that says one way or another whether 4's the end.

I wz sure they announced 4 but would be pleased to be wrong

SO ANNNOYING that the vols aren't numbered btw!

Young Scott Young (sic), Wednesday, 16 September 2009 01:08 (fourteen years ago) link

two months pass...

coming out on Dec. 8!

http://www.nybooks.com/shop/product-file/51/thet9251/product.jpg

clotpoll, Monday, 30 November 2009 02:15 (fourteen years ago) link

one month passes...

this book was harsh

clotpoll, Saturday, 2 January 2010 21:25 (fourteen years ago) link

three months pass...

yeah it was

jabba hands, Wednesday, 7 April 2010 09:48 (fourteen years ago) link

six months pass...

Not sure how many ilxors there are in NW England, and of those there's likely only a small subset who will be interesed, but this looks great:

Moominvalley at Bury Art Gallery

Bill A, Thursday, 14 October 2010 08:42 (thirteen years ago) link

four years pass...

Box set of the Tove vols of the strip coming out for Christmas.

Starland Vocal Gland (sic), Thursday, 23 October 2014 01:34 (nine years ago) link

I still need the last two of those

sleeve, Thursday, 23 October 2014 01:44 (nine years ago) link

two years pass...

Reread The True Deceiver this weekend, such a remarkable book. No wasted space, no false sentiments. I hadn't realized there were more story collections released in the U.K., I'm unclear on how they line up with the US collections.

JoeStork, Tuesday, 25 July 2017 15:48 (six years ago) link

There's also two picture books for tots: Moomin Mymble and Little My (which has holes cut in the pages so you can see thru to the next bit of the story!! Fuck you BSJohnson you plagiarist HACK!!) and Who Will Comfort Toffle?

my wife found the first one of these at a library sale, we were amazed cuz we did not know about them. her 3-year-old granddaughter loves the book! now I will be on the search for the second one.

sleeve, Tuesday, 25 July 2017 15:55 (six years ago) link

four years pass...

the recent biopic is on bbc4 in the obvious slot this Saturday

koogs, Wednesday, 8 June 2022 22:02 (one year ago) link

I once sat in school for hours - no, it was DAYS! - and copied out page after page of - what's it called? - Moominvalley in Winter, I think.
The clocks stopped ticking one by one.

― the pinefox, Friday, 29 June 2001 01:00 (twenty years ago) bookmarkflaglink

!!

mark s, Thursday, 9 June 2022 10:47 (one year ago) link

It's true.

the pinefox, Thursday, 9 June 2022 11:12 (one year ago) link

six months pass...

https://4columns.org/sinker-mark/tove-jansson

mark s, Sunday, 18 December 2022 12:44 (one year ago) link

Do you know if Paul Gravett has seen this, Mark? I'm sure he would like to share such a nice review on Facebook etc.

Ward Fowler, Sunday, 18 December 2022 14:13 (one year ago) link

it only went up fri night so possibly not but thames & hudson US know abt it (and provided the images)

mark s, Sunday, 18 December 2022 14:27 (one year ago) link

Good that, Mark.

djh, Sunday, 18 December 2022 21:37 (one year ago) link

seconded

sleeve, Sunday, 18 December 2022 21:41 (one year ago) link

one year passes...

https://www.polygon.com/reviews/24137675/snufkin-melody-of-moominvalley-review-nintendo-switch-pc

Oh hell yeah I'm trying this out

Daniel_Rf, Monday, 29 April 2024 09:50 (five days ago) link


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