indefensible: john gruber

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Will be interesting to see how this pans out. Not sure what it means if it’s true that their initial target is Mobile Safari specifically, not mobile WebKit in general. My guess is that it’s simply a result of Mobile Safari being so far ahead of the Android WebKit engine.
http://daringfireball.net/linked/2011/06/16/project-spartan

James Mitchell, Thursday, 16 June 2011 19:25 (3 years ago) Permalink

http://daringfireball.net/linked/2011/06/17/apple-buy-phone-industry

yes, but it would be illegal under US, UK and EU law, so what's your point?

caek, Friday, 17 June 2011 18:09 (3 years ago) Permalink

Has he always been so mean-spirited? I don't remember him being so spiteful just a few years ago.

lukas, Friday, 17 June 2011 21:51 (3 years ago) Permalink

http://diveintomark.org/archives/2011/06/17/come-on-gruber-youre-better-than-this

url a bit generous but otherwise, oh snap

caek, Friday, 17 June 2011 22:58 (3 years ago) Permalink

Gruber seems to be right about things a lot of the time, though that's easy when the people he disagrees with are prone to willfully ignoring the fact that Apple is making hundreds of millions of dollars doing what it's doing and is preposterously unlikely to make any sudden changes in strategy. Also less of a raging, belligerent asshole than you might expect.

T.S. Eliot-themed roach fetish porn (silby), Sunday, 19 June 2011 03:49 (3 years ago) Permalink

Also wrt the "buy whole cell phone industry" post that is sort of following up on an earlier link about how Apple could easily have enough cash in a few years to take itself private. That is, in an industry where firms are frequently assessed by their market cap or their VC funding or what have you, Apple actually has HUMONGOUS FAT STACKS OF CASH.

T.S. Eliot-themed roach fetish porn (silby), Sunday, 19 June 2011 03:52 (3 years ago) Permalink

agreed that this guy is a bit of a dick, he has unsavory triumphalist tendencies, and thinks various middlebrow stuff is the height of human achievement - however as to his core competency, i do believe hes one of the best writers on design out there today

ice cr?m, Sunday, 19 June 2011 03:58 (3 years ago) Permalink

Chock full of SEO crap: My comment on Marco Arment's comment on John Gruber's comment on David Pogue's comment on Google's Chromebook.

James Mitchell, Sunday, 19 June 2011 08:29 (3 years ago) Permalink

Has anyone read the marco aren't Phish post?

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Sunday, 19 June 2011 09:34 (3 years ago) Permalink

Damn autocorrect: Arment

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Sunday, 19 June 2011 09:35 (3 years ago) Permalink

however as to his core competency, i do believe hes one of the best writers on design out there today

he doesn't really do this any more though?

caek, Sunday, 19 June 2011 10:18 (3 years ago) Permalink

Got sick of his blog a while ago - but I have to admit his comment on the Chromebook is kinda on point, why does it deserve a "good try!" sentiment?

Nhex, Sunday, 19 June 2011 14:30 (3 years ago) Permalink

Gruber's predictions that don't come true are still reasonable and make sense when you evaluate the facts available at the time. He can't rely on his mysterious inside sources all the time, you see.

You don't have to believe me, just ask Gruber. He's always Gruber. I mean, right.

mh, Sunday, 19 June 2011 14:52 (3 years ago) Permalink

he doesn't really do this any more though?

― caek, Sunday, June 19, 2011 6:18 AM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

yeah its not most of his posts, but when he does write a long piece i feel like he really gets where design is at re todays technologies

ice cr?m, Sunday, 19 June 2011 14:55 (3 years ago) Permalink

also hes a v good clear writer

ice cr?m, Sunday, 19 June 2011 14:56 (3 years ago) Permalink

chrisdejabet Chris De Jabet by daringfireball
Just got complimented on my @daringfireball shirt at the Apple Store. Because I'm handsome.
18 hours ago

*stabs twitter in the face*

ice cr?m, Sunday, 19 June 2011 15:42 (3 years ago) Permalink

thought it was really out of line when this guy shot mr takagi

little dieter wants to FUCK (Princess TamTam), Sunday, 19 June 2011 15:50 (3 years ago) Permalink

i really like gruber

which mac writers do you guys really like? i could use some more feeds in my google reader

markers, Tuesday, 21 June 2011 18:46 (3 years ago) Permalink

Jean-Louis Gassee

lukas, Tuesday, 21 June 2011 18:54 (3 years ago) Permalink

totally forgot abt him, thanking u

markers, Tuesday, 21 June 2011 19:21 (3 years ago) Permalink

feel like this post embodies many of his less good qualities

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 21 June 2011 21:02 (3 years ago) Permalink

how long till some shill links him this thread and ilx gets ~fireballed~

 summer is coming  (cozen), Tuesday, 21 June 2011 21:04 (3 years ago) Permalink

one can dream

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 21 June 2011 21:05 (3 years ago) Permalink

You are trying to view American McCarver on a shitty browser. Won't work.
http://americanmccarver.com/

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 28 June 2011 12:37 (3 years ago) Permalink

Note that the UI screenshots are even set in Helvetica, not Arial. Some of the best evidence of good taste at Google I can ever recall.

duly noted.

http://daringfireball.net/linked/2011/06/28/google-plus-videos

joe, Tuesday, 28 June 2011 20:51 (3 years ago) Permalink

guh arial and helvetica are like exactly the same shit stfu already

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 28 June 2011 20:54 (3 years ago) Permalink

A friend shared this blog post on Google Reader: http://stu.mp/2011/06/dear-yahoo-hire-me-as-your-next-ceo.html

I’d buy the NYT (for a mere $1.5bn!) and recruit John Gruber to be Editor in Chief of the “Yahoo! News” division.

I cried a little.

mh, Tuesday, 28 June 2011 21:04 (3 years ago) Permalink

Oh god, until I read that blog post in full I thought that was a joke, like forcing him to cover stories about Microsoft.

James Mitchell, Wednesday, 29 June 2011 20:40 (3 years ago) Permalink

Cringely's been half-nuts for years. Now I think he's full-nuts.
http://daringfireball.net/linked/2011/06/29/joke

James Mitchell, Thursday, 30 June 2011 09:24 (3 years ago) Permalink

well, he's got a point

caek, Thursday, 30 June 2011 09:26 (3 years ago) Permalink

I guess it's not as bad as how he keeps referring to Paul Thurrott as a 'dick' purely because he writes about Microsoft.

James Mitchell, Thursday, 30 June 2011 09:36 (3 years ago) Permalink

cringelys nutsness is the best part of his shtick, guy is not afraid to think big

ice cr?m, Thursday, 30 June 2011 15:37 (3 years ago) Permalink

I don't think Cringely's being nuts there! Even if Jobs is showing pictures of full server rooms, it's not like he's shown pictures of the entire interior of the facility, and it's completely possible that it's not that densely populated.

mh, Thursday, 30 June 2011 15:38 (3 years ago) Permalink

yeah but thats not some weird conspiracy designed to intimidate rivals, its just building out future capacity

ice cr?m, Thursday, 30 June 2011 15:43 (3 years ago) Permalink

p sure this dood killed caylee http://horace.dediu.usesthis.com

ice cr?m, Thursday, 7 July 2011 03:51 (3 years ago) Permalink

http://daringfireball.net/linked/2010/05/11/cameron

asshole

http://daringfireball.net/linked/2011/07/08/murdoch

"congratulations to the tories"

joe, Friday, 8 July 2011 20:18 (3 years ago) Permalink

wish someone would put this asshole in a room w/paul thurrott and then they can mutually annihilate each other

Once Were Moderators (DG), Friday, 8 July 2011 20:22 (3 years ago) Permalink

You are trying to view American McCarver on a shitty browser. Won't work.

maybe i've just been developing for legacy browsers too long at this point, but this kills me. laziest shit ever - you run a SPORTS BLOG ffs

unique housing opportunity (swanbed.gif) (govern yourself accordingly), Friday, 8 July 2011 20:29 (3 years ago) Permalink

actually i think i hate sub-gruber wannabe sycophant ux doods even worse than gruber proper - so much hot air about making software "empathetic," so much whining about not getting paid to be a thought leader, so much referring to "marco" by the mononym...

unique housing opportunity (swanbed.gif) (govern yourself accordingly), Friday, 8 July 2011 20:33 (3 years ago) Permalink

laughing stalk (diamonddave85), Friday, 8 July 2011 22:39 (3 years ago) Permalink

Read a blog post about grids. Saw a movie about Helvetica. Short. Terse. Sentences.

laughing stalk (diamonddave85), Friday, 8 July 2011 22:41 (3 years ago) Permalink

TS: john gruber vs lieutenant gruber from 'allo 'allo

Once Were Moderators (DG), Friday, 8 July 2011 22:42 (3 years ago) Permalink

Note that the UI screenshots are even set in Helvetica, not Arial. Some of the best evidence of good taste at Google I can ever recall.

RAGE!

laughing stalk (diamonddave85), Friday, 8 July 2011 22:47 (3 years ago) Permalink

oops already posted X:

laughing stalk (diamonddave85), Friday, 8 July 2011 22:47 (3 years ago) Permalink

it cannot be mocked too often. the star was a nice touch.

joe, Friday, 8 July 2011 22:49 (3 years ago) Permalink

I listened to some of his most recent podcasts during the week and was astounded by his and Dan Benjamin's claim that it gets 800,000 downloads an episode.

Err, what? Maybe it was some kind of belated rip on The Daily's iPad app but I think they were being serious. There's no way it's true, though.

James Mitchell, Saturday, 9 July 2011 08:36 (3 years ago) Permalink

i think it's more like 400,000, but i could be wrong

800,000 was either the WWDC or post-WWDC download count iirc, but again, i could be wrong

markers, Saturday, 9 July 2011 08:39 (3 years ago) Permalink

It's like his amazing high trafficked and revolutionary new sports website, which is actually a fucking tumble blog about baseball where you click on the notes to find less than half a dozen people 'liked' each post and fuck-all anybody reblogged anything, because why the fuck would you.

I'd rather read David Beckham's views on fonts an touch interfaces.

James Mitchell, Saturday, 9 July 2011 08:41 (3 years ago) Permalink

are you kidding i'd TOTALLY read david beckham's views on fonts and touch interfaces

unique housing opportunity (swanbed.gif) (govern yourself accordingly), Saturday, 9 July 2011 14:02 (3 years ago) Permalink

Dean Martin’s recipe for hamburgers. Sounds perfect.

nice commentary.

laughing stalk (diamonddave85), Tuesday, 12 July 2011 02:32 (3 years ago) Permalink

http://bit.ly/1kJ5hqf

markers, Friday, 18 April 2014 16:59 (3 months ago) Permalink

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purposely lend impetus to my HOOS (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Friday, 18 April 2014 17:00 (3 months ago) Permalink

i would be friends with steve ballmer

markers, Friday, 18 April 2014 17:01 (3 months ago) Permalink

At that point, Mr. Ballmer picked up a chair and threw it across the room hitting a table in his office. Mr. Ballmer then said: “Fucking Eric Schmidt is a fucking pussy. I’m going to fucking bury that guy, I have done it before, and I will do it again. I’m going to fucking kill Google.” ….

http://battellemedia.com/archives/2005/09/ballmer_throws_a_chair_at_fing_google.php

markers, Friday, 18 April 2014 17:02 (3 months ago) Permalink

i hope that really happened

markers, Friday, 18 April 2014 17:03 (3 months ago) Permalink

fing_google

purposely lend impetus to my HOOS (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Friday, 18 April 2014 17:14 (3 months ago) Permalink

what the hell that link isn't even working.

markers, Friday, 18 April 2014 17:30 (3 months ago) Permalink

i am renaming myself to that hoos

markers, Friday, 18 April 2014 17:31 (3 months ago) Permalink

Every picture of Steve Ballmer looks like it was taken a few seconds after or before he threw a chair across the room.

brimstead, Friday, 18 April 2014 18:30 (3 months ago) Permalink

http://instagram.com/p/nJuoFMw5Ew/

markers, Friday, 25 April 2014 03:54 (3 months ago) Permalink

-happy 18th Birthday, marco's son
-thanks mr gruber. you know I love cake!
*grubes dramatically launches instagram*
-I hope you also love this delicious can of VINTAGE CLAIM CHOWDER!!

sktsh, Friday, 25 April 2014 07:35 (3 months ago) Permalink

lol

lag∞n, Friday, 25 April 2014 14:51 (3 months ago) Permalink

lol

purposely lend impetus to my HOOS (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Friday, 25 April 2014 17:06 (3 months ago) Permalink

3 weeks pass...

http://daringfireball.net/linked/2014/05/16/heathrow-samsung-translation

haha good one

caek, Saturday, 17 May 2014 17:25 (2 months ago) Permalink

pass the ginsy winsies

sktsh, Saturday, 17 May 2014 17:32 (2 months ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

Someday, you’re going to want to be able to say, “I’ve been using Vesper since back when it was only for iPhone.”

schwantz, Tuesday, 17 June 2014 15:46 (1 month ago) Permalink

lol at UPDATE

http://daringfireball.net/linked/2014/06/16/buckyball

caek, Tuesday, 17 June 2014 15:51 (1 month ago) Permalink

lol

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 17 June 2014 15:51 (1 month ago) Permalink

-happy 18th Birthday, marco's son
-thanks mr gruber. you know I love cake!
*grubes dramatically launches instagram*
-I hope you also love this delicious can of VINTAGE CLAIM CHOWDER!!

― sktsh, Friday, April 25, 2014 7:35 AM (1 month ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i think of this post often

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 17 June 2014 15:53 (1 month ago) Permalink

ha yeah so good

lag∞n, Tuesday, 17 June 2014 16:02 (1 month ago) Permalink

<3 <3 <3

sktsh, Tuesday, 17 June 2014 21:46 (1 month ago) Permalink

urgh enough with the OTT praise for that stupid Only Apple post

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Wednesday, 18 June 2014 09:21 (1 month ago) Permalink

its a good post tbf

lag∞n, Wednesday, 18 June 2014 12:59 (1 month ago) Permalink

is it tho

socki (s1ocki), Wednesday, 18 June 2014 13:02 (1 month ago) Permalink

yeah i thought it was p good

lag∞n, Wednesday, 18 June 2014 13:08 (1 month ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

what's with grubby's recent obsession over this chinese knockoff iphone?

joe "scratch" perry (diamonddave85), Friday, 25 July 2014 22:36 (1 week ago) Permalink

Jobs loved having enemies so Gubes has to love it too I guess?

ugh (lukas), Friday, 25 July 2014 22:40 (1 week ago) Permalink

The Chinese: Good enough to manufacture iPhones, not good enough to compete with the iPhone

, Friday, 25 July 2014 23:04 (1 week ago) Permalink

Gruber is probably just salty that Apple so badly misjudged the Chinese market with the 5c

, Friday, 25 July 2014 23:04 (1 week ago) Permalink

I think he honestly sees even Samsung's less brazen chasing/copying of iPhone features and aesthetics as some sort of monumental injustice, a crime not against just Apple but against all human creative endeavors.

Forks I'd Clove to Fu (silby), Friday, 25 July 2014 23:06 (1 week ago) Permalink

I have noticed that every page that tries to sell you something now has copied Apple's sales roll like

"Catchphrase. Less words. Bad pun."
<tiny paragraph of snappy text >

, Friday, 25 July 2014 23:10 (1 week ago) Permalink

remember when he went after mike daisey?

markers, Friday, 25 July 2014 23:40 (1 week ago) Permalink

some of the xiaomi stuff is ridic tho

markers, Friday, 25 July 2014 23:40 (1 week ago) Permalink

the apple community just had its bacon moment: http://twitter.com/siracusa/status/492789327639113728

markers, Friday, 25 July 2014 23:44 (1 week ago) Permalink

click through if u want pics

markers, Friday, 25 July 2014 23:44 (1 week ago) Permalink

more like john srirachacusa

socki (s1ocki), Saturday, 26 July 2014 01:01 (1 week ago) Permalink

remember when he went after mike daisey?

― markers, Friday, July 25, 2014 4:40 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

tbf Mike Daisey is a vacuous troll

Forks I'd Clove to Fu (silby), Saturday, 26 July 2014 16:32 (1 week ago) Permalink

i wasn't saying that wasn't deserved, just that he gets on these things from time to time

markers, Saturday, 26 July 2014 16:36 (1 week ago) Permalink


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