indefensible: john gruber

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Will be interesting to see how this pans out. Not sure what it means if it’s true that their initial target is Mobile Safari specifically, not mobile WebKit in general. My guess is that it’s simply a result of Mobile Safari being so far ahead of the Android WebKit engine.
http://daringfireball.net/linked/2011/06/16/project-spartan

James Mitchell, Thursday, 16 June 2011 19:25 (5 years ago) Permalink

http://daringfireball.net/linked/2011/06/17/apple-buy-phone-industry

yes, but it would be illegal under US, UK and EU law, so what's your point?

caek, Friday, 17 June 2011 18:09 (5 years ago) Permalink

Has he always been so mean-spirited? I don't remember him being so spiteful just a few years ago.

lukas, Friday, 17 June 2011 21:51 (5 years ago) Permalink

http://diveintomark.org/archives/2011/06/17/come-on-gruber-youre-better-than-this

url a bit generous but otherwise, oh snap

caek, Friday, 17 June 2011 22:58 (5 years ago) Permalink

Gruber seems to be right about things a lot of the time, though that's easy when the people he disagrees with are prone to willfully ignoring the fact that Apple is making hundreds of millions of dollars doing what it's doing and is preposterously unlikely to make any sudden changes in strategy. Also less of a raging, belligerent asshole than you might expect.

T.S. Eliot-themed roach fetish porn (silby), Sunday, 19 June 2011 03:49 (5 years ago) Permalink

Also wrt the "buy whole cell phone industry" post that is sort of following up on an earlier link about how Apple could easily have enough cash in a few years to take itself private. That is, in an industry where firms are frequently assessed by their market cap or their VC funding or what have you, Apple actually has HUMONGOUS FAT STACKS OF CASH.

T.S. Eliot-themed roach fetish porn (silby), Sunday, 19 June 2011 03:52 (5 years ago) Permalink

agreed that this guy is a bit of a dick, he has unsavory triumphalist tendencies, and thinks various middlebrow stuff is the height of human achievement - however as to his core competency, i do believe hes one of the best writers on design out there today

ice cr?m, Sunday, 19 June 2011 03:58 (5 years ago) Permalink

Chock full of SEO crap: My comment on Marco Arment's comment on John Gruber's comment on David Pogue's comment on Google's Chromebook.

James Mitchell, Sunday, 19 June 2011 08:29 (5 years ago) Permalink

Has anyone read the marco aren't Phish post?

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Sunday, 19 June 2011 09:34 (5 years ago) Permalink

Damn autocorrect: Arment

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Sunday, 19 June 2011 09:35 (5 years ago) Permalink

however as to his core competency, i do believe hes one of the best writers on design out there today

he doesn't really do this any more though?

caek, Sunday, 19 June 2011 10:18 (5 years ago) Permalink

Got sick of his blog a while ago - but I have to admit his comment on the Chromebook is kinda on point, why does it deserve a "good try!" sentiment?

Nhex, Sunday, 19 June 2011 14:30 (5 years ago) Permalink

Gruber's predictions that don't come true are still reasonable and make sense when you evaluate the facts available at the time. He can't rely on his mysterious inside sources all the time, you see.

You don't have to believe me, just ask Gruber. He's always Gruber. I mean, right.

mh, Sunday, 19 June 2011 14:52 (5 years ago) Permalink

he doesn't really do this any more though?

― caek, Sunday, June 19, 2011 6:18 AM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

yeah its not most of his posts, but when he does write a long piece i feel like he really gets where design is at re todays technologies

ice cr?m, Sunday, 19 June 2011 14:55 (5 years ago) Permalink

also hes a v good clear writer

ice cr?m, Sunday, 19 June 2011 14:56 (5 years ago) Permalink

chrisdejabet Chris De Jabet by daringfireball
Just got complimented on my @daringfireball shirt at the Apple Store. Because I'm handsome.
18 hours ago

*stabs twitter in the face*

ice cr?m, Sunday, 19 June 2011 15:42 (5 years ago) Permalink

thought it was really out of line when this guy shot mr takagi

little dieter wants to FUCK (Princess TamTam), Sunday, 19 June 2011 15:50 (5 years ago) Permalink

i really like gruber

which mac writers do you guys really like? i could use some more feeds in my google reader

markers, Tuesday, 21 June 2011 18:46 (5 years ago) Permalink

Jean-Louis Gassee

lukas, Tuesday, 21 June 2011 18:54 (5 years ago) Permalink

totally forgot abt him, thanking u

markers, Tuesday, 21 June 2011 19:21 (5 years ago) Permalink

feel like this post embodies many of his less good qualities

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 21 June 2011 21:02 (5 years ago) Permalink

how long till some shill links him this thread and ilx gets ~fireballed~

 summer is coming  (cozen), Tuesday, 21 June 2011 21:04 (5 years ago) Permalink

one can dream

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 21 June 2011 21:05 (5 years ago) Permalink

You are trying to view American McCarver on a shitty browser. Won't work.
http://americanmccarver.com/

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 28 June 2011 12:37 (4 years ago) Permalink

Note that the UI screenshots are even set in Helvetica, not Arial. Some of the best evidence of good taste at Google I can ever recall.

duly noted.

http://daringfireball.net/linked/2011/06/28/google-plus-videos

joe, Tuesday, 28 June 2011 20:51 (4 years ago) Permalink

guh arial and helvetica are like exactly the same shit stfu already

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 28 June 2011 20:54 (4 years ago) Permalink

A friend shared this blog post on Google Reader: http://stu.mp/2011/06/dear-yahoo-hire-me-as-your-next-ceo.html

I’d buy the NYT (for a mere $1.5bn!) and recruit John Gruber to be Editor in Chief of the “Yahoo! News” division.

I cried a little.

mh, Tuesday, 28 June 2011 21:04 (4 years ago) Permalink

Oh god, until I read that blog post in full I thought that was a joke, like forcing him to cover stories about Microsoft.

James Mitchell, Wednesday, 29 June 2011 20:40 (4 years ago) Permalink

Cringely's been half-nuts for years. Now I think he's full-nuts.
http://daringfireball.net/linked/2011/06/29/joke

James Mitchell, Thursday, 30 June 2011 09:24 (4 years ago) Permalink

well, he's got a point

caek, Thursday, 30 June 2011 09:26 (4 years ago) Permalink

I guess it's not as bad as how he keeps referring to Paul Thurrott as a 'dick' purely because he writes about Microsoft.

James Mitchell, Thursday, 30 June 2011 09:36 (4 years ago) Permalink

cringelys nutsness is the best part of his shtick, guy is not afraid to think big

ice cr?m, Thursday, 30 June 2011 15:37 (4 years ago) Permalink

I don't think Cringely's being nuts there! Even if Jobs is showing pictures of full server rooms, it's not like he's shown pictures of the entire interior of the facility, and it's completely possible that it's not that densely populated.

mh, Thursday, 30 June 2011 15:38 (4 years ago) Permalink

yeah but thats not some weird conspiracy designed to intimidate rivals, its just building out future capacity

ice cr?m, Thursday, 30 June 2011 15:43 (4 years ago) Permalink

p sure this dood killed caylee http://horace.dediu.usesthis.com

ice cr?m, Thursday, 7 July 2011 03:51 (4 years ago) Permalink

http://daringfireball.net/linked/2010/05/11/cameron

asshole

http://daringfireball.net/linked/2011/07/08/murdoch

"congratulations to the tories"

joe, Friday, 8 July 2011 20:18 (4 years ago) Permalink

wish someone would put this asshole in a room w/paul thurrott and then they can mutually annihilate each other

Once Were Moderators (DG), Friday, 8 July 2011 20:22 (4 years ago) Permalink

You are trying to view American McCarver on a shitty browser. Won't work.

maybe i've just been developing for legacy browsers too long at this point, but this kills me. laziest shit ever - you run a SPORTS BLOG ffs

unique housing opportunity (swanbed.gif) (govern yourself accordingly), Friday, 8 July 2011 20:29 (4 years ago) Permalink

actually i think i hate sub-gruber wannabe sycophant ux doods even worse than gruber proper - so much hot air about making software "empathetic," so much whining about not getting paid to be a thought leader, so much referring to "marco" by the mononym...

unique housing opportunity (swanbed.gif) (govern yourself accordingly), Friday, 8 July 2011 20:33 (4 years ago) Permalink

laughing stalk (diamonddave85), Friday, 8 July 2011 22:39 (4 years ago) Permalink

Read a blog post about grids. Saw a movie about Helvetica. Short. Terse. Sentences.

laughing stalk (diamonddave85), Friday, 8 July 2011 22:41 (4 years ago) Permalink

TS: john gruber vs lieutenant gruber from 'allo 'allo

Once Were Moderators (DG), Friday, 8 July 2011 22:42 (4 years ago) Permalink

Note that the UI screenshots are even set in Helvetica, not Arial. Some of the best evidence of good taste at Google I can ever recall.

RAGE!

laughing stalk (diamonddave85), Friday, 8 July 2011 22:47 (4 years ago) Permalink

oops already posted X:

laughing stalk (diamonddave85), Friday, 8 July 2011 22:47 (4 years ago) Permalink

it cannot be mocked too often. the star was a nice touch.

joe, Friday, 8 July 2011 22:49 (4 years ago) Permalink

I listened to some of his most recent podcasts during the week and was astounded by his and Dan Benjamin's claim that it gets 800,000 downloads an episode.

Err, what? Maybe it was some kind of belated rip on The Daily's iPad app but I think they were being serious. There's no way it's true, though.

James Mitchell, Saturday, 9 July 2011 08:36 (4 years ago) Permalink

i think it's more like 400,000, but i could be wrong

800,000 was either the WWDC or post-WWDC download count iirc, but again, i could be wrong

markers, Saturday, 9 July 2011 08:39 (4 years ago) Permalink

It's like his amazing high trafficked and revolutionary new sports website, which is actually a fucking tumble blog about baseball where you click on the notes to find less than half a dozen people 'liked' each post and fuck-all anybody reblogged anything, because why the fuck would you.

I'd rather read David Beckham's views on fonts an touch interfaces.

James Mitchell, Saturday, 9 July 2011 08:41 (4 years ago) Permalink

are you kidding i'd TOTALLY read david beckham's views on fonts and touch interfaces

unique housing opportunity (swanbed.gif) (govern yourself accordingly), Saturday, 9 July 2011 14:02 (4 years ago) Permalink

Dean Martin’s recipe for hamburgers. Sounds perfect.

nice commentary.

laughing stalk (diamonddave85), Tuesday, 12 July 2011 02:32 (4 years ago) Permalink

this is a super interesting war going on here

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 18 September 2015 05:15 (9 months ago) Permalink

http://www.marco.org/2015/09/18/just-doesnt-feel-good

sofatruck, Saturday, 19 September 2015 15:03 (9 months ago) Permalink

Did he not realize what ad blockers do?

sofatruck, Saturday, 19 September 2015 15:36 (9 months ago) Permalink

lol

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Sunday, 20 September 2015 15:40 (9 months ago) Permalink

2 weeks pass...

I like their T-shirts (DF shirts have been printed on AA tees for many years), and I like that their products are proudly made in America, so I’m really hoping they recover from this. But I hope they recover with their brand intact.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 5 October 2015 22:31 (8 months ago) Permalink

lol

μpright mammal (mh), Monday, 5 October 2015 22:31 (8 months ago) Permalink

Gruber wears brands instead of shirts

go hang a salami I'm a canal, adam (silby), Tuesday, 6 October 2015 00:43 (8 months ago) Permalink

I’m intrigued about the strategic implications of an exclusive like this. But as a book reader, somehow it feels wrong

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 9 October 2015 04:25 (8 months ago) Permalink

2 months pass...


lag∞n, Tuesday, 22 December 2015 17:05 (6 months ago) Permalink

lag∞n, Tuesday, 22 December 2015 17:07 (6 months ago) Permalink

lag∞n, Tuesday, 22 December 2015 17:08 (6 months ago) Permalink

lag∞n, Tuesday, 22 December 2015 17:08 (6 months ago) Permalink

important feedback

μpright mammal (mh), Tuesday, 22 December 2015 17:09 (6 months ago) Permalink

lag∞n, Tuesday, 22 December 2015 17:09 (6 months ago) Permalink

I think the truecar dude is a diff one? I thought he was a dude local to here

μpright mammal (mh), Tuesday, 22 December 2015 17:10 (6 months ago) Permalink

naw thats the same guy

lag∞n, Tuesday, 22 December 2015 17:11 (6 months ago) Permalink

lol I stand corrected they just look alike

μpright mammal (mh), Tuesday, 22 December 2015 17:12 (6 months ago) Permalink

have no idea how he found me that tweet was never RTed didnt mention him by name also his tweet isnt a reply? possible ive defamed him on other occasions

lag∞n, Tuesday, 22 December 2015 17:13 (6 months ago) Permalink

there is a techcrunch writer who follows me tho

lag∞n, Tuesday, 22 December 2015 17:13 (6 months ago) Permalink

he prob searches for his show name

μpright mammal (mh), Tuesday, 22 December 2015 17:14 (6 months ago) Permalink

ha i only said smug fucko from the startup videos tho

lag∞n, Tuesday, 22 December 2015 17:15 (6 months ago) Permalink

someones snitching

lag∞n, Tuesday, 22 December 2015 17:16 (6 months ago) Permalink

oh wait theres a reply to my tweet w this url which contains his last name? http://daringfireball.net/linked/2010/05/11/lisagor-square

lag∞n, Tuesday, 22 December 2015 17:22 (6 months ago) Permalink

gruber's nickname for him is what now?!?

μpright mammal (mh), Tuesday, 22 December 2015 17:26 (6 months ago) Permalink

haaaaah nice

lag∞n, Tuesday, 22 December 2015 17:36 (6 months ago) Permalink

this guy also does put this on the 'dress like a grown up' blog

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 22 December 2015 17:37 (6 months ago) Permalink

plz rephrase that in the form of a sentence

lag∞n, Tuesday, 22 December 2015 17:44 (6 months ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

I’ve been saying for a while now that recruiting and talent retention are the single biggest problem Apple faces. But my take on it is subtle.

*proceeds to say stuff that is wrong an untrue*

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 29 January 2016 17:54 (4 months ago) Permalink

But my take on it is subtle. <<shd be included in every thinkpiece lede

lag∞n, Friday, 29 January 2016 18:41 (4 months ago) Permalink

2 months pass...

john gruber seems like exactly the kind of guy (too young to be a boomer, but a boomer at heart) who would think gay talese is still "killing it"

http://daringfireball.net/linked/2016/04/08/talese-voyeur

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, 9 April 2016 15:29 (2 months ago) Permalink

Fits in with his antideluvian taste in movies

eyecrud (silby), Saturday, 9 April 2016 17:03 (2 months ago) Permalink

nothing worse than gen x-ers who are aspirational boomers

μpright mammal (mh), Saturday, 9 April 2016 17:24 (2 months ago) Permalink

remember when he tried to say that apple wasn't killing the web because iPhone apps technically use HTTP, which is the web

eyecrud (silby), Tuesday, 12 April 2016 01:09 (2 months ago) Permalink

lol

μpright mammal (mh), Tuesday, 12 April 2016 01:32 (2 months ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

dam did not know i was being racist thx 4 the heads up only going to use the firetruck emoji from now on

lag∞n, Thursday, 12 May 2016 06:25 (1 month ago) Permalink


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