indefensible: john gruber

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Has he always been so mean-spirited? I don't remember him being so spiteful just a few years ago.

lukas, Friday, 17 June 2011 21:51 (2 years ago) Permalink

http://diveintomark.org/archives/2011/06/17/come-on-gruber-youre-better-than-this

url a bit generous but otherwise, oh snap

caek, Friday, 17 June 2011 22:58 (2 years ago) Permalink

Gruber seems to be right about things a lot of the time, though that's easy when the people he disagrees with are prone to willfully ignoring the fact that Apple is making hundreds of millions of dollars doing what it's doing and is preposterously unlikely to make any sudden changes in strategy. Also less of a raging, belligerent asshole than you might expect.

T.S. Eliot-themed roach fetish porn (silby), Sunday, 19 June 2011 03:49 (2 years ago) Permalink

Also wrt the "buy whole cell phone industry" post that is sort of following up on an earlier link about how Apple could easily have enough cash in a few years to take itself private. That is, in an industry where firms are frequently assessed by their market cap or their VC funding or what have you, Apple actually has HUMONGOUS FAT STACKS OF CASH.

T.S. Eliot-themed roach fetish porn (silby), Sunday, 19 June 2011 03:52 (2 years ago) Permalink

agreed that this guy is a bit of a dick, he has unsavory triumphalist tendencies, and thinks various middlebrow stuff is the height of human achievement - however as to his core competency, i do believe hes one of the best writers on design out there today

ice cr?m, Sunday, 19 June 2011 03:58 (2 years ago) Permalink

Chock full of SEO crap: My comment on Marco Arment's comment on John Gruber's comment on David Pogue's comment on Google's Chromebook.

James Mitchell, Sunday, 19 June 2011 08:29 (2 years ago) Permalink

Has anyone read the marco aren't Phish post?

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Sunday, 19 June 2011 09:34 (2 years ago) Permalink

Damn autocorrect: Arment

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Sunday, 19 June 2011 09:35 (2 years ago) Permalink

however as to his core competency, i do believe hes one of the best writers on design out there today

he doesn't really do this any more though?

caek, Sunday, 19 June 2011 10:18 (2 years ago) Permalink

Got sick of his blog a while ago - but I have to admit his comment on the Chromebook is kinda on point, why does it deserve a "good try!" sentiment?

Nhex, Sunday, 19 June 2011 14:30 (2 years ago) Permalink

Gruber's predictions that don't come true are still reasonable and make sense when you evaluate the facts available at the time. He can't rely on his mysterious inside sources all the time, you see.

You don't have to believe me, just ask Gruber. He's always Gruber. I mean, right.

mh, Sunday, 19 June 2011 14:52 (2 years ago) Permalink

he doesn't really do this any more though?

― caek, Sunday, June 19, 2011 6:18 AM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

yeah its not most of his posts, but when he does write a long piece i feel like he really gets where design is at re todays technologies

ice cr?m, Sunday, 19 June 2011 14:55 (2 years ago) Permalink

also hes a v good clear writer

ice cr?m, Sunday, 19 June 2011 14:56 (2 years ago) Permalink

chrisdejabet Chris De Jabet by daringfireball
Just got complimented on my @daringfireball shirt at the Apple Store. Because I'm handsome.
18 hours ago

*stabs twitter in the face*

ice cr?m, Sunday, 19 June 2011 15:42 (2 years ago) Permalink

thought it was really out of line when this guy shot mr takagi

little dieter wants to FUCK (Princess TamTam), Sunday, 19 June 2011 15:50 (2 years ago) Permalink

i really like gruber

which mac writers do you guys really like? i could use some more feeds in my google reader

markers, Tuesday, 21 June 2011 18:46 (2 years ago) Permalink

Jean-Louis Gassee

lukas, Tuesday, 21 June 2011 18:54 (2 years ago) Permalink

totally forgot abt him, thanking u

markers, Tuesday, 21 June 2011 19:21 (2 years ago) Permalink

feel like this post embodies many of his less good qualities

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 21 June 2011 21:02 (2 years ago) Permalink

how long till some shill links him this thread and ilx gets ~fireballed~

 summer is coming  (cozen), Tuesday, 21 June 2011 21:04 (2 years ago) Permalink

one can dream

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 21 June 2011 21:05 (2 years ago) Permalink

You are trying to view American McCarver on a shitty browser. Won't work.
http://americanmccarver.com/

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 28 June 2011 12:37 (2 years ago) Permalink

Note that the UI screenshots are even set in Helvetica, not Arial. Some of the best evidence of good taste at Google I can ever recall.

duly noted.

http://daringfireball.net/linked/2011/06/28/google-plus-videos

joe, Tuesday, 28 June 2011 20:51 (2 years ago) Permalink

guh arial and helvetica are like exactly the same shit stfu already

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 28 June 2011 20:54 (2 years ago) Permalink

A friend shared this blog post on Google Reader: http://stu.mp/2011/06/dear-yahoo-hire-me-as-your-next-ceo.html

I’d buy the NYT (for a mere $1.5bn!) and recruit John Gruber to be Editor in Chief of the “Yahoo! News” division.

I cried a little.

mh, Tuesday, 28 June 2011 21:04 (2 years ago) Permalink

Oh god, until I read that blog post in full I thought that was a joke, like forcing him to cover stories about Microsoft.

James Mitchell, Wednesday, 29 June 2011 20:40 (2 years ago) Permalink

Cringely's been half-nuts for years. Now I think he's full-nuts.
http://daringfireball.net/linked/2011/06/29/joke

James Mitchell, Thursday, 30 June 2011 09:24 (2 years ago) Permalink

well, he's got a point

caek, Thursday, 30 June 2011 09:26 (2 years ago) Permalink

I guess it's not as bad as how he keeps referring to Paul Thurrott as a 'dick' purely because he writes about Microsoft.

James Mitchell, Thursday, 30 June 2011 09:36 (2 years ago) Permalink

cringelys nutsness is the best part of his shtick, guy is not afraid to think big

ice cr?m, Thursday, 30 June 2011 15:37 (2 years ago) Permalink

I don't think Cringely's being nuts there! Even if Jobs is showing pictures of full server rooms, it's not like he's shown pictures of the entire interior of the facility, and it's completely possible that it's not that densely populated.

mh, Thursday, 30 June 2011 15:38 (2 years ago) Permalink

yeah but thats not some weird conspiracy designed to intimidate rivals, its just building out future capacity

ice cr?m, Thursday, 30 June 2011 15:43 (2 years ago) Permalink

p sure this dood killed caylee http://horace.dediu.usesthis.com

ice cr?m, Thursday, 7 July 2011 03:51 (2 years ago) Permalink

http://daringfireball.net/linked/2010/05/11/cameron

asshole

http://daringfireball.net/linked/2011/07/08/murdoch

"congratulations to the tories"

joe, Friday, 8 July 2011 20:18 (2 years ago) Permalink

wish someone would put this asshole in a room w/paul thurrott and then they can mutually annihilate each other

Once Were Moderators (DG), Friday, 8 July 2011 20:22 (2 years ago) Permalink

You are trying to view American McCarver on a shitty browser. Won't work.

maybe i've just been developing for legacy browsers too long at this point, but this kills me. laziest shit ever - you run a SPORTS BLOG ffs

unique housing opportunity (swanbed.gif) (govern yourself accordingly), Friday, 8 July 2011 20:29 (2 years ago) Permalink

actually i think i hate sub-gruber wannabe sycophant ux doods even worse than gruber proper - so much hot air about making software "empathetic," so much whining about not getting paid to be a thought leader, so much referring to "marco" by the mononym...

unique housing opportunity (swanbed.gif) (govern yourself accordingly), Friday, 8 July 2011 20:33 (2 years ago) Permalink

laughing stalk (diamonddave85), Friday, 8 July 2011 22:39 (2 years ago) Permalink

Read a blog post about grids. Saw a movie about Helvetica. Short. Terse. Sentences.

laughing stalk (diamonddave85), Friday, 8 July 2011 22:41 (2 years ago) Permalink

TS: john gruber vs lieutenant gruber from 'allo 'allo

Once Were Moderators (DG), Friday, 8 July 2011 22:42 (2 years ago) Permalink

Note that the UI screenshots are even set in Helvetica, not Arial. Some of the best evidence of good taste at Google I can ever recall.

RAGE!

laughing stalk (diamonddave85), Friday, 8 July 2011 22:47 (2 years ago) Permalink

oops already posted X:

laughing stalk (diamonddave85), Friday, 8 July 2011 22:47 (2 years ago) Permalink

it cannot be mocked too often. the star was a nice touch.

joe, Friday, 8 July 2011 22:49 (2 years ago) Permalink

I listened to some of his most recent podcasts during the week and was astounded by his and Dan Benjamin's claim that it gets 800,000 downloads an episode.

Err, what? Maybe it was some kind of belated rip on The Daily's iPad app but I think they were being serious. There's no way it's true, though.

James Mitchell, Saturday, 9 July 2011 08:36 (2 years ago) Permalink

i think it's more like 400,000, but i could be wrong

800,000 was either the WWDC or post-WWDC download count iirc, but again, i could be wrong

markers, Saturday, 9 July 2011 08:39 (2 years ago) Permalink

It's like his amazing high trafficked and revolutionary new sports website, which is actually a fucking tumble blog about baseball where you click on the notes to find less than half a dozen people 'liked' each post and fuck-all anybody reblogged anything, because why the fuck would you.

I'd rather read David Beckham's views on fonts an touch interfaces.

James Mitchell, Saturday, 9 July 2011 08:41 (2 years ago) Permalink

are you kidding i'd TOTALLY read david beckham's views on fonts and touch interfaces

unique housing opportunity (swanbed.gif) (govern yourself accordingly), Saturday, 9 July 2011 14:02 (2 years ago) Permalink

Dean Martin’s recipe for hamburgers. Sounds perfect.

nice commentary.

laughing stalk (diamonddave85), Tuesday, 12 July 2011 02:32 (2 years ago) Permalink

Sounds like... salted meat and a glass of bourbon

mh, Tuesday, 12 July 2011 02:42 (2 years ago) Permalink

i read gil amelio's memoir last year ffs

markers, Thursday, 27 March 2014 01:58 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

all im saying markers is "go look up a blog post" is a bad look, why not just post a link to it if you really think its that interesting

socki (s1ocki), Thursday, 27 March 2014 13:25 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

i'm not sure it is, but here you go: http://9to5mac.com/2014/03/19/eddy-cue-throws-a-pen-at-haunted-empires-yukari-kanes-accuracy-says-story-isnt-true/

markers, Thursday, 27 March 2014 17:00 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

forgive my mortal transgression of not linking.

markers, Thursday, 27 March 2014 17:01 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

now i wish you hadnt

socki (s1ocki), Thursday, 27 March 2014 17:02 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

next time i won't

markers, Thursday, 27 March 2014 17:03 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

it's good to be back

markers, Thursday, 27 March 2014 17:03 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

I skipped that link the first time tbh because I assumed it was about eddy cue and the pencil. But it was not and was interesting

stet, Thursday, 27 March 2014 19:21 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

gonna put that picture itt

markers, Thursday, 27 March 2014 19:23 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

got distracted for a moment, but

from macrumors

markers, Thursday, 27 March 2014 19:30 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

shit look at that thing

markers, Thursday, 27 March 2014 19:30 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

Wait, what's that? Were they working ON IPHONE in G3 days?

stet, Thursday, 27 March 2014 19:49 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

no i think it started in 2005. they were trying to mimic the speed of what the phone hardware would be maybe? something like that? it says in the wsj somewhere

markers, Thursday, 27 March 2014 19:59 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

for some reason that reminds me of Jobs using OpenStep on a Thinkpad when he returned to Apple because he thought their laptops were garbage

maybe a fierce G4 (G5?) hater was on the iPhone team

have a nice blood/orange bitters cocktail (mh), Thursday, 27 March 2014 20:27 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

I still shed a tear for all those children who were laid off from their jobs in the Motorola factory in 2006. You couldn't meet a stauncher group of PowerPC/OS 9 nationalists.

fields of salmon, Thursday, 27 March 2014 21:21 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

good link coming in

markers, Friday, 4 April 2014 02:34 (1 week ago) Permalink

watch it

markers, Friday, 4 April 2014 02:51 (1 week ago) Permalink

at least a little

markers, Friday, 4 April 2014 02:51 (1 week ago) Permalink

so basically they needed an app cloud service. they don't mention any built-in synching merge tools, so presumably they made their own or used some other off-the-shelf library. from the code shown, it seems like there's minimal platform-specific code going on (it looked like javascript from what I watched) so it remains pretty portable.

IMO they're getting a promo deal backed by the video, and if their app gets large enough that they need to reevaluate their needs they could jump to any other cloud platform in a heartbeat

idk if this is apple dropping the ball on iCloud sync (which they have) as much as people not wanting to be locked in, in case they want multiple platforms for their app.

have a nice blood/orange bitters cocktail (mh), Friday, 4 April 2014 03:05 (1 week ago) Permalink

i'm not sure why they chose this really. br3nt s1mmons does leave in seattle.

markers, Friday, 4 April 2014 03:12 (1 week ago) Permalink

he's the one who knew stuff about azure for some reason i think.

markers, Friday, 4 April 2014 03:12 (1 week ago) Permalink

ugh, if you click that link make sure you manually add the "-" to the end of the url or you won't get the video

markers, Friday, 4 April 2014 03:13 (1 week ago) Permalink

at least i didn't

markers, Friday, 4 April 2014 03:13 (1 week ago) Permalink

there are limited app cloud options, really

have a nice blood/orange bitters cocktail (mh), Friday, 4 April 2014 03:34 (1 week ago) Permalink

i'm not sure why they chose this really. br3nt s1mmons does leave in seattle.

And is a worthy partner for Gruber. Christ, his dev blog is so painful to read I had to unsubscribe. Endless "do my homework for me", obvious mining of dead-ends, NIH all over the place, unsubstantiated resistance to the right solutions and manic over-engineering. Explains a lot about why NNW performance was so awful, and definitely explains the horrific state of its nib files.

stet, Friday, 4 April 2014 15:28 (1 week ago) Permalink

lol

markers, Friday, 4 April 2014 15:29 (1 week ago) Permalink

you've brought actual developers with axes to grind in on this now, markers

have a nice blood/orange bitters cocktail (mh), Friday, 4 April 2014 15:32 (1 week ago) Permalink

damn true

markers, Friday, 4 April 2014 15:33 (1 week ago) Permalink

as I said to someone recently, no one hates software developers more than other developers. and if you don't, then you're probably part of the problem.

have a nice blood/orange bitters cocktail (mh), Friday, 4 April 2014 15:34 (1 week ago) Permalink

the funny thing about talking about software dev and vesper is that i actually wrote a notes app for the ti 83 plus back in the day

markers, Friday, 4 April 2014 15:37 (1 week ago) Permalink

you can store ten strings on it. i stored all the notes as a series of numbers in a matrix instead of storing them in the strings.

markers, Friday, 4 April 2014 15:38 (1 week ago) Permalink

you convert each number back to a character, and each character back into a number, to go from what's stored to what's displayed. something like that.

markers, Friday, 4 April 2014 15:39 (1 week ago) Permalink

p.s. ticalc.org existed long before the app store did

markers, Friday, 4 April 2014 15:39 (1 week ago) Permalink

your notes application was probably better implemented than vesper

have a nice blood/orange bitters cocktail (mh), Friday, 4 April 2014 15:42 (1 week ago) Permalink

too bad you can't make a living off writing shit in ti basic

markers, Friday, 4 April 2014 15:47 (1 week ago) Permalink


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