indefensible: john gruber

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however as to his core competency, i do believe hes one of the best writers on design out there today

he doesn't really do this any more though?

caek, Sunday, 19 June 2011 10:18 (3 years ago) Permalink

Got sick of his blog a while ago - but I have to admit his comment on the Chromebook is kinda on point, why does it deserve a "good try!" sentiment?

Nhex, Sunday, 19 June 2011 14:30 (3 years ago) Permalink

Gruber's predictions that don't come true are still reasonable and make sense when you evaluate the facts available at the time. He can't rely on his mysterious inside sources all the time, you see.

You don't have to believe me, just ask Gruber. He's always Gruber. I mean, right.

mh, Sunday, 19 June 2011 14:52 (3 years ago) Permalink

he doesn't really do this any more though?

― caek, Sunday, June 19, 2011 6:18 AM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

yeah its not most of his posts, but when he does write a long piece i feel like he really gets where design is at re todays technologies

ice cr?m, Sunday, 19 June 2011 14:55 (3 years ago) Permalink

also hes a v good clear writer

ice cr?m, Sunday, 19 June 2011 14:56 (3 years ago) Permalink

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*stabs twitter in the face*

ice cr?m, Sunday, 19 June 2011 15:42 (3 years ago) Permalink

thought it was really out of line when this guy shot mr takagi

little dieter wants to FUCK (Princess TamTam), Sunday, 19 June 2011 15:50 (3 years ago) Permalink

i really like gruber

which mac writers do you guys really like? i could use some more feeds in my google reader

markers, Tuesday, 21 June 2011 18:46 (3 years ago) Permalink

Jean-Louis Gassee

lukas, Tuesday, 21 June 2011 18:54 (3 years ago) Permalink

totally forgot abt him, thanking u

markers, Tuesday, 21 June 2011 19:21 (3 years ago) Permalink

feel like this post embodies many of his less good qualities

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 21 June 2011 21:02 (3 years ago) Permalink

how long till some shill links him this thread and ilx gets ~fireballed~

 summer is coming  (cozen), Tuesday, 21 June 2011 21:04 (3 years ago) Permalink

one can dream

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 21 June 2011 21:05 (3 years ago) Permalink

You are trying to view American McCarver on a shitty browser. Won't work.
http://americanmccarver.com/

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 28 June 2011 12:37 (3 years ago) Permalink

Note that the UI screenshots are even set in Helvetica, not Arial. Some of the best evidence of good taste at Google I can ever recall.

duly noted.

http://daringfireball.net/linked/2011/06/28/google-plus-videos

joe, Tuesday, 28 June 2011 20:51 (3 years ago) Permalink

guh arial and helvetica are like exactly the same shit stfu already

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 28 June 2011 20:54 (3 years ago) Permalink

A friend shared this blog post on Google Reader: http://stu.mp/2011/06/dear-yahoo-hire-me-as-your-next-ceo.html

I’d buy the NYT (for a mere $1.5bn!) and recruit John Gruber to be Editor in Chief of the “Yahoo! News” division.

I cried a little.

mh, Tuesday, 28 June 2011 21:04 (3 years ago) Permalink

Oh god, until I read that blog post in full I thought that was a joke, like forcing him to cover stories about Microsoft.

James Mitchell, Wednesday, 29 June 2011 20:40 (3 years ago) Permalink

Cringely's been half-nuts for years. Now I think he's full-nuts.
http://daringfireball.net/linked/2011/06/29/joke

James Mitchell, Thursday, 30 June 2011 09:24 (3 years ago) Permalink

well, he's got a point

caek, Thursday, 30 June 2011 09:26 (3 years ago) Permalink

I guess it's not as bad as how he keeps referring to Paul Thurrott as a 'dick' purely because he writes about Microsoft.

James Mitchell, Thursday, 30 June 2011 09:36 (3 years ago) Permalink

cringelys nutsness is the best part of his shtick, guy is not afraid to think big

ice cr?m, Thursday, 30 June 2011 15:37 (3 years ago) Permalink

I don't think Cringely's being nuts there! Even if Jobs is showing pictures of full server rooms, it's not like he's shown pictures of the entire interior of the facility, and it's completely possible that it's not that densely populated.

mh, Thursday, 30 June 2011 15:38 (3 years ago) Permalink

yeah but thats not some weird conspiracy designed to intimidate rivals, its just building out future capacity

ice cr?m, Thursday, 30 June 2011 15:43 (3 years ago) Permalink

p sure this dood killed caylee http://horace.dediu.usesthis.com

ice cr?m, Thursday, 7 July 2011 03:51 (3 years ago) Permalink

http://daringfireball.net/linked/2010/05/11/cameron

asshole

http://daringfireball.net/linked/2011/07/08/murdoch

"congratulations to the tories"

joe, Friday, 8 July 2011 20:18 (3 years ago) Permalink

wish someone would put this asshole in a room w/paul thurrott and then they can mutually annihilate each other

Once Were Moderators (DG), Friday, 8 July 2011 20:22 (3 years ago) Permalink

You are trying to view American McCarver on a shitty browser. Won't work.

maybe i've just been developing for legacy browsers too long at this point, but this kills me. laziest shit ever - you run a SPORTS BLOG ffs

unique housing opportunity (swanbed.gif) (govern yourself accordingly), Friday, 8 July 2011 20:29 (3 years ago) Permalink

actually i think i hate sub-gruber wannabe sycophant ux doods even worse than gruber proper - so much hot air about making software "empathetic," so much whining about not getting paid to be a thought leader, so much referring to "marco" by the mononym...

unique housing opportunity (swanbed.gif) (govern yourself accordingly), Friday, 8 July 2011 20:33 (3 years ago) Permalink

laughing stalk (diamonddave85), Friday, 8 July 2011 22:39 (3 years ago) Permalink

Read a blog post about grids. Saw a movie about Helvetica. Short. Terse. Sentences.

laughing stalk (diamonddave85), Friday, 8 July 2011 22:41 (3 years ago) Permalink

TS: john gruber vs lieutenant gruber from 'allo 'allo

Once Were Moderators (DG), Friday, 8 July 2011 22:42 (3 years ago) Permalink

Note that the UI screenshots are even set in Helvetica, not Arial. Some of the best evidence of good taste at Google I can ever recall.

RAGE!

laughing stalk (diamonddave85), Friday, 8 July 2011 22:47 (3 years ago) Permalink

oops already posted X:

laughing stalk (diamonddave85), Friday, 8 July 2011 22:47 (3 years ago) Permalink

it cannot be mocked too often. the star was a nice touch.

joe, Friday, 8 July 2011 22:49 (3 years ago) Permalink

I listened to some of his most recent podcasts during the week and was astounded by his and Dan Benjamin's claim that it gets 800,000 downloads an episode.

Err, what? Maybe it was some kind of belated rip on The Daily's iPad app but I think they were being serious. There's no way it's true, though.

James Mitchell, Saturday, 9 July 2011 08:36 (3 years ago) Permalink

i think it's more like 400,000, but i could be wrong

800,000 was either the WWDC or post-WWDC download count iirc, but again, i could be wrong

markers, Saturday, 9 July 2011 08:39 (3 years ago) Permalink

It's like his amazing high trafficked and revolutionary new sports website, which is actually a fucking tumble blog about baseball where you click on the notes to find less than half a dozen people 'liked' each post and fuck-all anybody reblogged anything, because why the fuck would you.

I'd rather read David Beckham's views on fonts an touch interfaces.

James Mitchell, Saturday, 9 July 2011 08:41 (3 years ago) Permalink

are you kidding i'd TOTALLY read david beckham's views on fonts and touch interfaces

unique housing opportunity (swanbed.gif) (govern yourself accordingly), Saturday, 9 July 2011 14:02 (3 years ago) Permalink

Dean Martin’s recipe for hamburgers. Sounds perfect.

nice commentary.

laughing stalk (diamonddave85), Tuesday, 12 July 2011 02:32 (3 years ago) Permalink

Sounds like... salted meat and a glass of bourbon

mh, Tuesday, 12 July 2011 02:42 (3 years ago) Permalink

I give it a C-. Not up to the high standards of open source assholery established by the likes of Linus Torvalds. Canonical example http://lwn.net/Articles/249460/

T.S. Eliot-themed roach fetish porn (silby), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 03:47 (3 years ago) Permalink

Yes, in August, Apple is going to start selling Lion on USB sticks. But I think most of us really will be able to get by without them. That’s why the USB stick installers are going to cost $69, a $40 markup over the App Store download. Apple wants us to go download-only.

James Mitchell, Thursday, 21 July 2011 08:44 (3 years ago) Permalink

Rather than try to one-up their selections I’m going to one-down them. Herewith, then, are the Top Ten Worst Westerns. Observations inside.

You can tell he’s right on most of these, from the posters alone.

god what a bore.

caek, Thursday, 21 July 2011 11:37 (3 years ago) Permalink

dude is like a demigod of suburban consumerism, yelling so loudly about inane bullshit from atop a mountain of 'slightly used' apple products. good links sometimes tho.

shaane, Thursday, 21 July 2011 16:24 (3 years ago) Permalink

http://daringfireball.net/linked/2011/07/20/scrollvetica

Scrollvetica.

SCROLLVETICA

ILX Point Never (diamonddave85), Thursday, 21 July 2011 16:29 (3 years ago) Permalink

not to mention scroll reverser has been around since day 1 of the lion betas

ILX Point Never (diamonddave85), Thursday, 21 July 2011 16:30 (3 years ago) Permalink

does it set yr scrollbars in helvetica

markers, Thursday, 21 July 2011 17:15 (3 years ago) Permalink

Marco Arment is way worse; he's like distilled Gruber shit.

stet, Thursday, 21 July 2011 17:26 (3 years ago) Permalink

A few days into testing the new iPhone 6 and 6 Plus, I accidentally left my personal iPhone 5S on a desk next to the iPhone 6 Plus. While my back was turned, the Plus tried to eat my 5S. It’s a monster.

cant tell if serious..

I kid, but only sort of.

oh

diamonddave85​​ (diamonddave85), Wednesday, 17 September 2014 16:45 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

Only sort of kidding that his demo phone is an actual living breathing monster

Spirit of Match Game '76 (silby), Wednesday, 17 September 2014 16:56 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

now im scared, great

lag∞n, Wednesday, 17 September 2014 17:06 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

It’s been a while since I used a rounded iPhone. It’s nice. With the iPhone 6, I’ve found myself reverting to a habit I formed back in 2007 with the original iPhone: slowly spinning it around in my hand, over and over, side over side, like one of those “worry stones” that were popular back in the 1990s. It just feels nice in your hand. (The 6 Plus is too big for me to do this with.)

lag∞n, Wednesday, 17 September 2014 17:13 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

Ah, but then there’s The Bulge. Both iPhone 6 models have a camera lens that protrudes from the back of the phone. It’s noticeable, and, let’s face it, a little gross. But this was foreseeable given that the presciently-designed iPod Touch from two years ago had one too. (The iPod Touch is just 6.1mm thick, thinner even than the iPhone 6.) This is a conflict with the laws of physics: image quality improves when the lens is further away from the sensor (which allows for physically larger sensors), but devices feel better in hand and weigh less when they are thinner. Apple’s only options for the iPhone 6:

Use a camera with worse optics that would sit flush with the rest of the case.

Make the entirely device thicker to sit flush with the camera lens.

Allow the camera lens to protrude from the back of the camera.

The first choice is unacceptable. Image quality is too important to allow it to suffer — and Apple certainly couldn’t allow image quality on the iPhone 6 to be worse than on the 5S. So the choice was between #2 and #3, and as a fan of smaller thinner devices, I can’t say I disagree with Apple’s decision to go with #3. It’s reasonable to argue that the iPhone 6 would have been better if Apple had gone with #2 (and filled the additional volume with a slightly thicker battery), but that’s not really Apple-like.

omg why didnt they do this drives me fn nuts mane

lag∞n, Wednesday, 17 September 2014 17:21 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

they did it to drive you nuts iirc

⌘-B (mh), Wednesday, 17 September 2014 17:31 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

They could have made the camera thinner if they went super wide angle, and then used post processing to fix the image / crop

, Wednesday, 17 September 2014 17:33 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

omg why didnt they do this drives me fn nuts mane

― lag∞n, Wednesday, September 17, 2014 1:21 PM (29 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i know!!

socki (s1ocki), Wednesday, 17 September 2014 17:51 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

They could have made the camera thinner if they went super wide angle, and then used post processing to fix the image / crop

― 龜, Wednesday, September 17, 2014 1:33 PM (18 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

jony ive, browsing ilx, facepalms

socki (s1ocki), Wednesday, 17 September 2014 17:51 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

cropping does not have the same effect as a longer lens tho, iphone lens already way too fn wide imho impossible to take pictures of anything far away

lag∞n, Wednesday, 17 September 2014 17:55 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

There are probably too many DSLR purist freaks on the design team to ever go for a flat solution tho

, Wednesday, 17 September 2014 17:59 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

the watch post...

what kind of monster is he?

caek, Thursday, 18 September 2014 10:18 (1 week ago) Permalink

I seriously had a dream this morning that he posted something with some vaguely rape-apologist elements and then Jason Kottke called him out on it, so I should probably get better dreams and spend less time thinking about John Gruber.

Spirit of Match Game '76 (silby), Thursday, 18 September 2014 15:24 (1 week ago) Permalink

lmao otm

lag∞n, Thursday, 18 September 2014 15:26 (1 week ago) Permalink

that is an incredible internet dream tho

lag∞n, Thursday, 18 September 2014 15:26 (1 week ago) Permalink

$80 for a steel watch band is a “hefty price”. That’s adorable.

fuck you, basically

ugh (lukas), Thursday, 18 September 2014 16:21 (1 week ago) Permalink

Well, if you're pulling down something like $260k a year mainly posting links and the occasional longform article, $80 is adorable.

Your Favorite Album in the Cutout Bin, Thursday, 18 September 2014 16:31 (1 week ago) Permalink

lmao

lag∞n, Sunday, 21 September 2014 16:52 (1 week ago) Permalink

"thoughts on" is not necessarily a good way to start a title. this is an apple blogger tic, and yes i know abt jobs, obv

markers, Friday, 26 September 2014 00:53 (5 days ago) Permalink

also: one word titles like matt gemmell's "portable" or w/e

markers, Friday, 26 September 2014 00:54 (5 days ago) Permalink

that "iphones 6" shit is also ridic

markers, Friday, 26 September 2014 00:54 (5 days ago) Permalink

if you have to stick with the super simple format, at least go with "iphone 6 and iphone 6 plus" or something

markers, Friday, 26 September 2014 00:54 (5 days ago) Permalink

"layer tennis"

socki (s1ocki), Friday, 26 September 2014 19:43 (5 days ago) Permalink

hah i was just looking at that

markers, Friday, 26 September 2014 19:48 (5 days ago) Permalink

didn't read past the first sentence of what I presume is saccharine nonsense about Derek Jeter

Spirit of Match Game '76 (silby), Sunday, 28 September 2014 19:31 (3 days ago) Permalink

i don't know if i finished it, but i didn't think it was bad at all

markers, Monday, 29 September 2014 12:37 (2 days ago) Permalink

sounds very fun

lag∞n, Tuesday, 30 September 2014 00:38 (Yesterday) Permalink


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