indefensible: john gruber

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however as to his core competency, i do believe hes one of the best writers on design out there today

he doesn't really do this any more though?

caek, Sunday, 19 June 2011 10:18 (4 years ago) Permalink

Got sick of his blog a while ago - but I have to admit his comment on the Chromebook is kinda on point, why does it deserve a "good try!" sentiment?

Nhex, Sunday, 19 June 2011 14:30 (4 years ago) Permalink

Gruber's predictions that don't come true are still reasonable and make sense when you evaluate the facts available at the time. He can't rely on his mysterious inside sources all the time, you see.

You don't have to believe me, just ask Gruber. He's always Gruber. I mean, right.

mh, Sunday, 19 June 2011 14:52 (4 years ago) Permalink

he doesn't really do this any more though?

― caek, Sunday, June 19, 2011 6:18 AM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

yeah its not most of his posts, but when he does write a long piece i feel like he really gets where design is at re todays technologies

ice cr?m, Sunday, 19 June 2011 14:55 (4 years ago) Permalink

also hes a v good clear writer

ice cr?m, Sunday, 19 June 2011 14:56 (4 years ago) Permalink

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*stabs twitter in the face*

ice cr?m, Sunday, 19 June 2011 15:42 (4 years ago) Permalink

thought it was really out of line when this guy shot mr takagi

little dieter wants to FUCK (Princess TamTam), Sunday, 19 June 2011 15:50 (4 years ago) Permalink

i really like gruber

which mac writers do you guys really like? i could use some more feeds in my google reader

markers, Tuesday, 21 June 2011 18:46 (4 years ago) Permalink

Jean-Louis Gassee

lukas, Tuesday, 21 June 2011 18:54 (4 years ago) Permalink

totally forgot abt him, thanking u

markers, Tuesday, 21 June 2011 19:21 (4 years ago) Permalink

feel like this post embodies many of his less good qualities

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 21 June 2011 21:02 (4 years ago) Permalink

how long till some shill links him this thread and ilx gets ~fireballed~

 summer is coming  (cozen), Tuesday, 21 June 2011 21:04 (4 years ago) Permalink

one can dream

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 21 June 2011 21:05 (4 years ago) Permalink

You are trying to view American McCarver on a shitty browser. Won't work.
http://americanmccarver.com/

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 28 June 2011 12:37 (4 years ago) Permalink

Note that the UI screenshots are even set in Helvetica, not Arial. Some of the best evidence of good taste at Google I can ever recall.

duly noted.

http://daringfireball.net/linked/2011/06/28/google-plus-videos

joe, Tuesday, 28 June 2011 20:51 (4 years ago) Permalink

guh arial and helvetica are like exactly the same shit stfu already

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 28 June 2011 20:54 (4 years ago) Permalink

A friend shared this blog post on Google Reader: http://stu.mp/2011/06/dear-yahoo-hire-me-as-your-next-ceo.html

I’d buy the NYT (for a mere $1.5bn!) and recruit John Gruber to be Editor in Chief of the “Yahoo! News” division.

I cried a little.

mh, Tuesday, 28 June 2011 21:04 (4 years ago) Permalink

Oh god, until I read that blog post in full I thought that was a joke, like forcing him to cover stories about Microsoft.

James Mitchell, Wednesday, 29 June 2011 20:40 (4 years ago) Permalink

Cringely's been half-nuts for years. Now I think he's full-nuts.
http://daringfireball.net/linked/2011/06/29/joke

James Mitchell, Thursday, 30 June 2011 09:24 (4 years ago) Permalink

well, he's got a point

caek, Thursday, 30 June 2011 09:26 (4 years ago) Permalink

I guess it's not as bad as how he keeps referring to Paul Thurrott as a 'dick' purely because he writes about Microsoft.

James Mitchell, Thursday, 30 June 2011 09:36 (4 years ago) Permalink

cringelys nutsness is the best part of his shtick, guy is not afraid to think big

ice cr?m, Thursday, 30 June 2011 15:37 (4 years ago) Permalink

I don't think Cringely's being nuts there! Even if Jobs is showing pictures of full server rooms, it's not like he's shown pictures of the entire interior of the facility, and it's completely possible that it's not that densely populated.

mh, Thursday, 30 June 2011 15:38 (4 years ago) Permalink

yeah but thats not some weird conspiracy designed to intimidate rivals, its just building out future capacity

ice cr?m, Thursday, 30 June 2011 15:43 (4 years ago) Permalink

p sure this dood killed caylee http://horace.dediu.usesthis.com

ice cr?m, Thursday, 7 July 2011 03:51 (4 years ago) Permalink

http://daringfireball.net/linked/2010/05/11/cameron

asshole

http://daringfireball.net/linked/2011/07/08/murdoch

"congratulations to the tories"

joe, Friday, 8 July 2011 20:18 (4 years ago) Permalink

wish someone would put this asshole in a room w/paul thurrott and then they can mutually annihilate each other

Once Were Moderators (DG), Friday, 8 July 2011 20:22 (4 years ago) Permalink

You are trying to view American McCarver on a shitty browser. Won't work.

maybe i've just been developing for legacy browsers too long at this point, but this kills me. laziest shit ever - you run a SPORTS BLOG ffs

unique housing opportunity (swanbed.gif) (govern yourself accordingly), Friday, 8 July 2011 20:29 (4 years ago) Permalink

actually i think i hate sub-gruber wannabe sycophant ux doods even worse than gruber proper - so much hot air about making software "empathetic," so much whining about not getting paid to be a thought leader, so much referring to "marco" by the mononym...

unique housing opportunity (swanbed.gif) (govern yourself accordingly), Friday, 8 July 2011 20:33 (4 years ago) Permalink

laughing stalk (diamonddave85), Friday, 8 July 2011 22:39 (4 years ago) Permalink

Read a blog post about grids. Saw a movie about Helvetica. Short. Terse. Sentences.

laughing stalk (diamonddave85), Friday, 8 July 2011 22:41 (4 years ago) Permalink

TS: john gruber vs lieutenant gruber from 'allo 'allo

Once Were Moderators (DG), Friday, 8 July 2011 22:42 (4 years ago) Permalink

Note that the UI screenshots are even set in Helvetica, not Arial. Some of the best evidence of good taste at Google I can ever recall.

RAGE!

laughing stalk (diamonddave85), Friday, 8 July 2011 22:47 (4 years ago) Permalink

oops already posted X:

laughing stalk (diamonddave85), Friday, 8 July 2011 22:47 (4 years ago) Permalink

it cannot be mocked too often. the star was a nice touch.

joe, Friday, 8 July 2011 22:49 (4 years ago) Permalink

I listened to some of his most recent podcasts during the week and was astounded by his and Dan Benjamin's claim that it gets 800,000 downloads an episode.

Err, what? Maybe it was some kind of belated rip on The Daily's iPad app but I think they were being serious. There's no way it's true, though.

James Mitchell, Saturday, 9 July 2011 08:36 (4 years ago) Permalink

i think it's more like 400,000, but i could be wrong

800,000 was either the WWDC or post-WWDC download count iirc, but again, i could be wrong

markers, Saturday, 9 July 2011 08:39 (4 years ago) Permalink

It's like his amazing high trafficked and revolutionary new sports website, which is actually a fucking tumble blog about baseball where you click on the notes to find less than half a dozen people 'liked' each post and fuck-all anybody reblogged anything, because why the fuck would you.

I'd rather read David Beckham's views on fonts an touch interfaces.

James Mitchell, Saturday, 9 July 2011 08:41 (4 years ago) Permalink

are you kidding i'd TOTALLY read david beckham's views on fonts and touch interfaces

unique housing opportunity (swanbed.gif) (govern yourself accordingly), Saturday, 9 July 2011 14:02 (4 years ago) Permalink

Dean Martin’s recipe for hamburgers. Sounds perfect.

nice commentary.

laughing stalk (diamonddave85), Tuesday, 12 July 2011 02:32 (4 years ago) Permalink

Sounds like... salted meat and a glass of bourbon

mh, Tuesday, 12 July 2011 02:42 (4 years ago) Permalink

I give it a C-. Not up to the high standards of open source assholery established by the likes of Linus Torvalds. Canonical example http://lwn.net/Articles/249460/

T.S. Eliot-themed roach fetish porn (silby), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 03:47 (4 years ago) Permalink

Yes, in August, Apple is going to start selling Lion on USB sticks. But I think most of us really will be able to get by without them. That’s why the USB stick installers are going to cost $69, a $40 markup over the App Store download. Apple wants us to go download-only.

James Mitchell, Thursday, 21 July 2011 08:44 (4 years ago) Permalink

Rather than try to one-up their selections I’m going to one-down them. Herewith, then, are the Top Ten Worst Westerns. Observations inside.

You can tell he’s right on most of these, from the posters alone.

god what a bore.

caek, Thursday, 21 July 2011 11:37 (4 years ago) Permalink

dude is like a demigod of suburban consumerism, yelling so loudly about inane bullshit from atop a mountain of 'slightly used' apple products. good links sometimes tho.

shaane, Thursday, 21 July 2011 16:24 (4 years ago) Permalink

http://daringfireball.net/linked/2011/07/20/scrollvetica

Scrollvetica.

SCROLLVETICA

ILX Point Never (diamonddave85), Thursday, 21 July 2011 16:29 (4 years ago) Permalink

not to mention scroll reverser has been around since day 1 of the lion betas

ILX Point Never (diamonddave85), Thursday, 21 July 2011 16:30 (4 years ago) Permalink

does it set yr scrollbars in helvetica

markers, Thursday, 21 July 2011 17:15 (4 years ago) Permalink

Marco Arment is way worse; he's like distilled Gruber shit.

stet, Thursday, 21 July 2011 17:26 (4 years ago) Permalink

Look at that silky thread

, Thursday, 16 April 2015 11:15 (3 months ago) Permalink

beautifully, unapologetically hooved

sktsh, Thursday, 16 April 2015 14:25 (3 months ago) Permalink

lmao nice

lag∞n, Thursday, 16 April 2015 14:45 (3 months ago) Permalink

owned

lag∞n, Wednesday, 22 April 2015 22:42 (3 months ago) Permalink

John Gruber is a savage who leaves his periods outside of quotation marks

, Wednesday, 22 April 2015 22:51 (3 months ago) Permalink

no thats actually good and logical

lag∞n, Wednesday, 22 April 2015 23:03 (3 months ago) Permalink

yeah

brunch technician (silby), Thursday, 23 April 2015 02:03 (3 months ago) Permalink

I can confirm, English written conventions are wrong

mh, Thursday, 23 April 2015 13:43 (3 months ago) Permalink

lol "english" good luck usa

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 23 April 2015 14:50 (3 months ago) Permalink

sorry caek, it's our language now

mh, Thursday, 23 April 2015 14:52 (3 months ago) Permalink

latest post is possibly peak gruber: watch talk, bond talk, and apple fellatio. if only he could have found a way to tie kubrick and helvetica in, too

Your Favorite Album in the Cutout Bin, Thursday, 30 April 2015 14:35 (3 months ago) Permalink

yankees, rolling stones

lag∞n, Thursday, 30 April 2015 14:36 (3 months ago) Permalink

i want to write a long read gruber hit piece but that wld be such a self own

lag∞n, Thursday, 30 April 2015 14:37 (3 months ago) Permalink

lol please do it

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 30 April 2015 20:18 (3 months ago) Permalink

please

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 30 April 2015 20:18 (3 months ago) Permalink

you can pwn yourself a little it's ok

ultimate american sock (mh), Thursday, 30 April 2015 20:38 (3 months ago) Permalink

i... cant

lag∞n, Thursday, 30 April 2015 20:42 (3 months ago) Permalink

2 weeks pass...

http://www.cnn.com/2015/05/14/politics/jeb-bush-apple-watch-obamacare-answer/

feel like the grubes thread is the appropriate place to talk about how jeb thinks we should replace obamacare with apple watch

Clay, Friday, 15 May 2015 01:56 (2 months ago) Permalink

"You're diabetic, you can't do that," Bush said, mimicking what the watch would say if someone chows down on a butterscotch sundae for example.

lag∞n, Friday, 15 May 2015 01:58 (2 months ago) Permalink

Congrats to the Tories.

jennifer islam (silby), Friday, 15 May 2015 06:00 (2 months ago) Permalink

your health being only related your decisions and personal responsibility is a pretty good republican talking point

ppl really don't like thinking that they could be fit as hell and get super-cancer anyway or have their gall bladder fuck up

ultimate american sock (mh), Friday, 15 May 2015 12:51 (2 months ago) Permalink

4 weeks pass...

http://www.marco.org/2015/06/11/live-with-phil

John has always seemed to want The Talk Show’s annual live show at WWDC to resemble his fond childhood memories of the Johnny Carson late-night TV talk show. Past years have been closer to that format and pacing, but this was nothing like it at all.

John isn’t Johnny — John is better.

jesus

sofatruck, Friday, 12 June 2015 14:17 (1 month ago) Permalink

between two ferns

diamonddave85​ (diamonddave85), Friday, 12 June 2015 14:18 (1 month ago) Permalink

John isn’t Johnny — John is better.

jesus

― sofatruck, Friday, June 12, 2015 10:17 AM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

haha wow these ppl are so crazy off in their own crazy lil world

lag∞n, Friday, 12 June 2015 14:20 (1 month ago) Permalink

how fucking dehyrdated are these two that they need four bottles of water each

bizarro gazzara, Friday, 12 June 2015 14:23 (1 month ago) Permalink

you just feel good you feel safe if you have all the water you could possibly need

lag∞n, Friday, 12 June 2015 14:28 (1 month ago) Permalink

the apple enthusiast / doomsday prepper crossover

bizarro gazzara, Friday, 12 June 2015 14:30 (1 month ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

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