indefensible: john gruber

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however as to his core competency, i do believe hes one of the best writers on design out there today

he doesn't really do this any more though?

caek, Sunday, 19 June 2011 10:18 (3 years ago) Permalink

Got sick of his blog a while ago - but I have to admit his comment on the Chromebook is kinda on point, why does it deserve a "good try!" sentiment?

Nhex, Sunday, 19 June 2011 14:30 (3 years ago) Permalink

Gruber's predictions that don't come true are still reasonable and make sense when you evaluate the facts available at the time. He can't rely on his mysterious inside sources all the time, you see.

You don't have to believe me, just ask Gruber. He's always Gruber. I mean, right.

mh, Sunday, 19 June 2011 14:52 (3 years ago) Permalink

he doesn't really do this any more though?

― caek, Sunday, June 19, 2011 6:18 AM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

yeah its not most of his posts, but when he does write a long piece i feel like he really gets where design is at re todays technologies

ice cr?m, Sunday, 19 June 2011 14:55 (3 years ago) Permalink

also hes a v good clear writer

ice cr?m, Sunday, 19 June 2011 14:56 (3 years ago) Permalink

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*stabs twitter in the face*

ice cr?m, Sunday, 19 June 2011 15:42 (3 years ago) Permalink

thought it was really out of line when this guy shot mr takagi

little dieter wants to FUCK (Princess TamTam), Sunday, 19 June 2011 15:50 (3 years ago) Permalink

i really like gruber

which mac writers do you guys really like? i could use some more feeds in my google reader

markers, Tuesday, 21 June 2011 18:46 (3 years ago) Permalink

Jean-Louis Gassee

lukas, Tuesday, 21 June 2011 18:54 (3 years ago) Permalink

totally forgot abt him, thanking u

markers, Tuesday, 21 June 2011 19:21 (3 years ago) Permalink

feel like this post embodies many of his less good qualities

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 21 June 2011 21:02 (3 years ago) Permalink

how long till some shill links him this thread and ilx gets ~fireballed~

 summer is coming  (cozen), Tuesday, 21 June 2011 21:04 (3 years ago) Permalink

one can dream

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 21 June 2011 21:05 (3 years ago) Permalink

You are trying to view American McCarver on a shitty browser. Won't work.
http://americanmccarver.com/

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 28 June 2011 12:37 (3 years ago) Permalink

Note that the UI screenshots are even set in Helvetica, not Arial. Some of the best evidence of good taste at Google I can ever recall.

duly noted.

http://daringfireball.net/linked/2011/06/28/google-plus-videos

joe, Tuesday, 28 June 2011 20:51 (3 years ago) Permalink

guh arial and helvetica are like exactly the same shit stfu already

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 28 June 2011 20:54 (3 years ago) Permalink

A friend shared this blog post on Google Reader: http://stu.mp/2011/06/dear-yahoo-hire-me-as-your-next-ceo.html

I’d buy the NYT (for a mere $1.5bn!) and recruit John Gruber to be Editor in Chief of the “Yahoo! News” division.

I cried a little.

mh, Tuesday, 28 June 2011 21:04 (3 years ago) Permalink

Oh god, until I read that blog post in full I thought that was a joke, like forcing him to cover stories about Microsoft.

James Mitchell, Wednesday, 29 June 2011 20:40 (3 years ago) Permalink

Cringely's been half-nuts for years. Now I think he's full-nuts.
http://daringfireball.net/linked/2011/06/29/joke

James Mitchell, Thursday, 30 June 2011 09:24 (3 years ago) Permalink

well, he's got a point

caek, Thursday, 30 June 2011 09:26 (3 years ago) Permalink

I guess it's not as bad as how he keeps referring to Paul Thurrott as a 'dick' purely because he writes about Microsoft.

James Mitchell, Thursday, 30 June 2011 09:36 (3 years ago) Permalink

cringelys nutsness is the best part of his shtick, guy is not afraid to think big

ice cr?m, Thursday, 30 June 2011 15:37 (3 years ago) Permalink

I don't think Cringely's being nuts there! Even if Jobs is showing pictures of full server rooms, it's not like he's shown pictures of the entire interior of the facility, and it's completely possible that it's not that densely populated.

mh, Thursday, 30 June 2011 15:38 (3 years ago) Permalink

yeah but thats not some weird conspiracy designed to intimidate rivals, its just building out future capacity

ice cr?m, Thursday, 30 June 2011 15:43 (3 years ago) Permalink

p sure this dood killed caylee http://horace.dediu.usesthis.com

ice cr?m, Thursday, 7 July 2011 03:51 (3 years ago) Permalink

http://daringfireball.net/linked/2010/05/11/cameron

asshole

http://daringfireball.net/linked/2011/07/08/murdoch

"congratulations to the tories"

joe, Friday, 8 July 2011 20:18 (3 years ago) Permalink

wish someone would put this asshole in a room w/paul thurrott and then they can mutually annihilate each other

Once Were Moderators (DG), Friday, 8 July 2011 20:22 (3 years ago) Permalink

You are trying to view American McCarver on a shitty browser. Won't work.

maybe i've just been developing for legacy browsers too long at this point, but this kills me. laziest shit ever - you run a SPORTS BLOG ffs

unique housing opportunity (swanbed.gif) (govern yourself accordingly), Friday, 8 July 2011 20:29 (3 years ago) Permalink

actually i think i hate sub-gruber wannabe sycophant ux doods even worse than gruber proper - so much hot air about making software "empathetic," so much whining about not getting paid to be a thought leader, so much referring to "marco" by the mononym...

unique housing opportunity (swanbed.gif) (govern yourself accordingly), Friday, 8 July 2011 20:33 (3 years ago) Permalink

laughing stalk (diamonddave85), Friday, 8 July 2011 22:39 (3 years ago) Permalink

Read a blog post about grids. Saw a movie about Helvetica. Short. Terse. Sentences.

laughing stalk (diamonddave85), Friday, 8 July 2011 22:41 (3 years ago) Permalink

TS: john gruber vs lieutenant gruber from 'allo 'allo

Once Were Moderators (DG), Friday, 8 July 2011 22:42 (3 years ago) Permalink

Note that the UI screenshots are even set in Helvetica, not Arial. Some of the best evidence of good taste at Google I can ever recall.

RAGE!

laughing stalk (diamonddave85), Friday, 8 July 2011 22:47 (3 years ago) Permalink

oops already posted X:

laughing stalk (diamonddave85), Friday, 8 July 2011 22:47 (3 years ago) Permalink

it cannot be mocked too often. the star was a nice touch.

joe, Friday, 8 July 2011 22:49 (3 years ago) Permalink

I listened to some of his most recent podcasts during the week and was astounded by his and Dan Benjamin's claim that it gets 800,000 downloads an episode.

Err, what? Maybe it was some kind of belated rip on The Daily's iPad app but I think they were being serious. There's no way it's true, though.

James Mitchell, Saturday, 9 July 2011 08:36 (3 years ago) Permalink

i think it's more like 400,000, but i could be wrong

800,000 was either the WWDC or post-WWDC download count iirc, but again, i could be wrong

markers, Saturday, 9 July 2011 08:39 (3 years ago) Permalink

It's like his amazing high trafficked and revolutionary new sports website, which is actually a fucking tumble blog about baseball where you click on the notes to find less than half a dozen people 'liked' each post and fuck-all anybody reblogged anything, because why the fuck would you.

I'd rather read David Beckham's views on fonts an touch interfaces.

James Mitchell, Saturday, 9 July 2011 08:41 (3 years ago) Permalink

are you kidding i'd TOTALLY read david beckham's views on fonts and touch interfaces

unique housing opportunity (swanbed.gif) (govern yourself accordingly), Saturday, 9 July 2011 14:02 (3 years ago) Permalink

Dean Martin’s recipe for hamburgers. Sounds perfect.

nice commentary.

laughing stalk (diamonddave85), Tuesday, 12 July 2011 02:32 (3 years ago) Permalink

Sounds like... salted meat and a glass of bourbon

mh, Tuesday, 12 July 2011 02:42 (3 years ago) Permalink

I give it a C-. Not up to the high standards of open source assholery established by the likes of Linus Torvalds. Canonical example http://lwn.net/Articles/249460/

T.S. Eliot-themed roach fetish porn (silby), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 03:47 (3 years ago) Permalink

Yes, in August, Apple is going to start selling Lion on USB sticks. But I think most of us really will be able to get by without them. That’s why the USB stick installers are going to cost $69, a $40 markup over the App Store download. Apple wants us to go download-only.

James Mitchell, Thursday, 21 July 2011 08:44 (3 years ago) Permalink

Rather than try to one-up their selections I’m going to one-down them. Herewith, then, are the Top Ten Worst Westerns. Observations inside.

You can tell he’s right on most of these, from the posters alone.

god what a bore.

caek, Thursday, 21 July 2011 11:37 (3 years ago) Permalink

dude is like a demigod of suburban consumerism, yelling so loudly about inane bullshit from atop a mountain of 'slightly used' apple products. good links sometimes tho.

shaane, Thursday, 21 July 2011 16:24 (3 years ago) Permalink

http://daringfireball.net/linked/2011/07/20/scrollvetica

Scrollvetica.

SCROLLVETICA

ILX Point Never (diamonddave85), Thursday, 21 July 2011 16:29 (3 years ago) Permalink

not to mention scroll reverser has been around since day 1 of the lion betas

ILX Point Never (diamonddave85), Thursday, 21 July 2011 16:30 (3 years ago) Permalink

does it set yr scrollbars in helvetica

markers, Thursday, 21 July 2011 17:15 (3 years ago) Permalink

Marco Arment is way worse; he's like distilled Gruber shit.

stet, Thursday, 21 July 2011 17:26 (3 years ago) Permalink

its like the dudes i knew in high school who only listened to movie soundtracks and no other music

socki (s1ocki), Monday, 18 August 2014 14:57 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

lmao that was such a 90s type

lag∞n, Monday, 18 August 2014 15:03 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

"Given these assumptions and the Pythagorean Theorem"

(pythagorean theorem is a wikipedia link)

caek, Saturday, 23 August 2014 14:02 (1 week ago) Permalink

lol

lag∞n, Saturday, 23 August 2014 14:03 (1 week ago) Permalink

Trust the math.

lag∞n, Saturday, 23 August 2014 14:08 (1 week ago) Permalink

I could be wrong on either or both of these conjectured new iPhones. I derived these figures on my own, and I’ll explain my thought process below. No one who is truly “familiar with the situation” has told me a damn thing about either device. I have heard second- and third-hand stories, though, that lead me to think I’m right.

apple told someone and they told him

lag∞n, Saturday, 23 August 2014 14:09 (1 week ago) Permalink

no he just figured it out through MATH

socki (s1ocki), Saturday, 23 August 2014 15:09 (1 week ago) Permalink

soo much math

lag∞n, Saturday, 23 August 2014 15:14 (1 week ago) Permalink

imho pieces like this are where gruber usually shines where theres all design usability technical cultural business etc aspects, but this one cldve def been like 1/3 as long as it was

lag∞n, Saturday, 23 August 2014 15:16 (1 week ago) Permalink

tl;dr on marco's twitter beef with the wirecutter?

joe "scratch" perry (diamonddave85), Friday, 29 August 2014 22:47 (5 days ago) Permalink

HEADPHONE BEEF

lag∞n, Friday, 29 August 2014 22:48 (5 days ago) Permalink

Investigating, Marco apparently inadvertently started something with The Wirecutter people by making a now-edited post calling their process into question, which I think eventually escalated to Marco basically calling them plebs, the Wirecutter people calling him an amateur and then an asshole, and Brian Lam being accused of "race-baiting" by randoms.

Spirit of Match Game '76 (silby), Friday, 29 August 2014 22:59 (5 days ago) Permalink

lol

joe "scratch" perry (diamonddave85), Friday, 29 August 2014 23:08 (5 days ago) Permalink

he wrote a mea culpa saying he had been an asshole but kinda blaming it on social media and saying he was gonna try to log off more and smell the flowers and when i searched twitter to try to figure out the genesis of the beef i found millions of tweets complimenting him on his profundity

lag∞n, Saturday, 30 August 2014 00:30 (4 days ago) Permalink

pffffffffffffffffffffff

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Sunday, 31 August 2014 23:24 (3 days ago) Permalink

a lot of these guys are really bad writers

like this guy has stopped being a developer to become a writer?!

http://mattgemmell.com/confessions-of-an-ex-developer/

if he were american he'd probably be the kind of guy who'd have a copy of strunk and white on this desk (via gruber). but in spite of (because of) that, i feel like i'm having a stroke when i try to parse his writing.

caek, Tuesday, 2 September 2014 13:51 (Yesterday) Permalink

My answer is always the same: not really. The actual truth of the matter, as ever, is more nuanced.

*leans in* say more...

lag∞n, Tuesday, 2 September 2014 14:02 (Yesterday) Permalink

he used to insist on calling himself matt legend gemmell

sktsh, Tuesday, 2 September 2014 14:02 (Yesterday) Permalink

My answer is always the same: not really. The actual truth of the matter, as ever, is more nuanced.

My mind still works in a systemic, algorithmic way

no it doesn't

caek, Tuesday, 2 September 2014 14:03 (Yesterday) Permalink

http://www.patreon.com/mattgemmell

he's making $268 american dollars per month!

mh, Tuesday, 2 September 2014 14:04 (Yesterday) Permalink

aw

lag∞n, Tuesday, 2 September 2014 14:11 (Yesterday) Permalink

MATT GEMMELL IS CREATING
WORDS WITH MEANING

oh man he's creating his own words now, how artisanal

mh, Tuesday, 2 September 2014 14:14 (Yesterday) Permalink

I find myself fashioning sentences, and occasionally paragraphs with some meaning, but would never go so far as to create words.

mh, Tuesday, 2 September 2014 14:17 (Yesterday) Permalink

creating words is groapcian exercise imho

lag∞n, Tuesday, 2 September 2014 14:19 (Yesterday) Permalink

his favourite band is Dire Straits

stet, Tuesday, 2 September 2014 15:08 (Yesterday) Permalink

i hope you know that because you found his four hour spotify mix 'coding with the legend' like i did

sktsh, Tuesday, 2 September 2014 15:15 (Yesterday) Permalink

dire straits is good

lag∞n, Tuesday, 2 September 2014 15:58 (Yesterday) Permalink

http://www.clickhole.com/blogpost/why-i-stopped-758

lag∞n, Tuesday, 2 September 2014 17:10 (Yesterday) Permalink


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