indefensible: john gruber

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however as to his core competency, i do believe hes one of the best writers on design out there today

he doesn't really do this any more though?

caek, Sunday, 19 June 2011 10:18 (3 years ago) Permalink

Got sick of his blog a while ago - but I have to admit his comment on the Chromebook is kinda on point, why does it deserve a "good try!" sentiment?

Nhex, Sunday, 19 June 2011 14:30 (3 years ago) Permalink

Gruber's predictions that don't come true are still reasonable and make sense when you evaluate the facts available at the time. He can't rely on his mysterious inside sources all the time, you see.

You don't have to believe me, just ask Gruber. He's always Gruber. I mean, right.

mh, Sunday, 19 June 2011 14:52 (3 years ago) Permalink

he doesn't really do this any more though?

― caek, Sunday, June 19, 2011 6:18 AM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

yeah its not most of his posts, but when he does write a long piece i feel like he really gets where design is at re todays technologies

ice cr?m, Sunday, 19 June 2011 14:55 (3 years ago) Permalink

also hes a v good clear writer

ice cr?m, Sunday, 19 June 2011 14:56 (3 years ago) Permalink

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*stabs twitter in the face*

ice cr?m, Sunday, 19 June 2011 15:42 (3 years ago) Permalink

thought it was really out of line when this guy shot mr takagi

little dieter wants to FUCK (Princess TamTam), Sunday, 19 June 2011 15:50 (3 years ago) Permalink

i really like gruber

which mac writers do you guys really like? i could use some more feeds in my google reader

markers, Tuesday, 21 June 2011 18:46 (3 years ago) Permalink

Jean-Louis Gassee

lukas, Tuesday, 21 June 2011 18:54 (3 years ago) Permalink

totally forgot abt him, thanking u

markers, Tuesday, 21 June 2011 19:21 (3 years ago) Permalink

feel like this post embodies many of his less good qualities

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 21 June 2011 21:02 (3 years ago) Permalink

how long till some shill links him this thread and ilx gets ~fireballed~

 summer is coming  (cozen), Tuesday, 21 June 2011 21:04 (3 years ago) Permalink

one can dream

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 21 June 2011 21:05 (3 years ago) Permalink

You are trying to view American McCarver on a shitty browser. Won't work.
http://americanmccarver.com/

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 28 June 2011 12:37 (3 years ago) Permalink

Note that the UI screenshots are even set in Helvetica, not Arial. Some of the best evidence of good taste at Google I can ever recall.

duly noted.

http://daringfireball.net/linked/2011/06/28/google-plus-videos

joe, Tuesday, 28 June 2011 20:51 (3 years ago) Permalink

guh arial and helvetica are like exactly the same shit stfu already

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 28 June 2011 20:54 (3 years ago) Permalink

A friend shared this blog post on Google Reader: http://stu.mp/2011/06/dear-yahoo-hire-me-as-your-next-ceo.html

I’d buy the NYT (for a mere $1.5bn!) and recruit John Gruber to be Editor in Chief of the “Yahoo! News” division.

I cried a little.

mh, Tuesday, 28 June 2011 21:04 (3 years ago) Permalink

Oh god, until I read that blog post in full I thought that was a joke, like forcing him to cover stories about Microsoft.

James Mitchell, Wednesday, 29 June 2011 20:40 (3 years ago) Permalink

Cringely's been half-nuts for years. Now I think he's full-nuts.
http://daringfireball.net/linked/2011/06/29/joke

James Mitchell, Thursday, 30 June 2011 09:24 (3 years ago) Permalink

well, he's got a point

caek, Thursday, 30 June 2011 09:26 (3 years ago) Permalink

I guess it's not as bad as how he keeps referring to Paul Thurrott as a 'dick' purely because he writes about Microsoft.

James Mitchell, Thursday, 30 June 2011 09:36 (3 years ago) Permalink

cringelys nutsness is the best part of his shtick, guy is not afraid to think big

ice cr?m, Thursday, 30 June 2011 15:37 (3 years ago) Permalink

I don't think Cringely's being nuts there! Even if Jobs is showing pictures of full server rooms, it's not like he's shown pictures of the entire interior of the facility, and it's completely possible that it's not that densely populated.

mh, Thursday, 30 June 2011 15:38 (3 years ago) Permalink

yeah but thats not some weird conspiracy designed to intimidate rivals, its just building out future capacity

ice cr?m, Thursday, 30 June 2011 15:43 (3 years ago) Permalink

p sure this dood killed caylee http://horace.dediu.usesthis.com

ice cr?m, Thursday, 7 July 2011 03:51 (3 years ago) Permalink

http://daringfireball.net/linked/2010/05/11/cameron

asshole

http://daringfireball.net/linked/2011/07/08/murdoch

"congratulations to the tories"

joe, Friday, 8 July 2011 20:18 (3 years ago) Permalink

wish someone would put this asshole in a room w/paul thurrott and then they can mutually annihilate each other

Once Were Moderators (DG), Friday, 8 July 2011 20:22 (3 years ago) Permalink

You are trying to view American McCarver on a shitty browser. Won't work.

maybe i've just been developing for legacy browsers too long at this point, but this kills me. laziest shit ever - you run a SPORTS BLOG ffs

unique housing opportunity (swanbed.gif) (govern yourself accordingly), Friday, 8 July 2011 20:29 (3 years ago) Permalink

actually i think i hate sub-gruber wannabe sycophant ux doods even worse than gruber proper - so much hot air about making software "empathetic," so much whining about not getting paid to be a thought leader, so much referring to "marco" by the mononym...

unique housing opportunity (swanbed.gif) (govern yourself accordingly), Friday, 8 July 2011 20:33 (3 years ago) Permalink

laughing stalk (diamonddave85), Friday, 8 July 2011 22:39 (3 years ago) Permalink

Read a blog post about grids. Saw a movie about Helvetica. Short. Terse. Sentences.

laughing stalk (diamonddave85), Friday, 8 July 2011 22:41 (3 years ago) Permalink

TS: john gruber vs lieutenant gruber from 'allo 'allo

Once Were Moderators (DG), Friday, 8 July 2011 22:42 (3 years ago) Permalink

Note that the UI screenshots are even set in Helvetica, not Arial. Some of the best evidence of good taste at Google I can ever recall.

RAGE!

laughing stalk (diamonddave85), Friday, 8 July 2011 22:47 (3 years ago) Permalink

oops already posted X:

laughing stalk (diamonddave85), Friday, 8 July 2011 22:47 (3 years ago) Permalink

it cannot be mocked too often. the star was a nice touch.

joe, Friday, 8 July 2011 22:49 (3 years ago) Permalink

I listened to some of his most recent podcasts during the week and was astounded by his and Dan Benjamin's claim that it gets 800,000 downloads an episode.

Err, what? Maybe it was some kind of belated rip on The Daily's iPad app but I think they were being serious. There's no way it's true, though.

James Mitchell, Saturday, 9 July 2011 08:36 (3 years ago) Permalink

i think it's more like 400,000, but i could be wrong

800,000 was either the WWDC or post-WWDC download count iirc, but again, i could be wrong

markers, Saturday, 9 July 2011 08:39 (3 years ago) Permalink

It's like his amazing high trafficked and revolutionary new sports website, which is actually a fucking tumble blog about baseball where you click on the notes to find less than half a dozen people 'liked' each post and fuck-all anybody reblogged anything, because why the fuck would you.

I'd rather read David Beckham's views on fonts an touch interfaces.

James Mitchell, Saturday, 9 July 2011 08:41 (3 years ago) Permalink

are you kidding i'd TOTALLY read david beckham's views on fonts and touch interfaces

unique housing opportunity (swanbed.gif) (govern yourself accordingly), Saturday, 9 July 2011 14:02 (3 years ago) Permalink

Dean Martin’s recipe for hamburgers. Sounds perfect.

nice commentary.

laughing stalk (diamonddave85), Tuesday, 12 July 2011 02:32 (3 years ago) Permalink

Sounds like... salted meat and a glass of bourbon

mh, Tuesday, 12 July 2011 02:42 (3 years ago) Permalink

I give it a C-. Not up to the high standards of open source assholery established by the likes of Linus Torvalds. Canonical example http://lwn.net/Articles/249460/

T.S. Eliot-themed roach fetish porn (silby), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 03:47 (3 years ago) Permalink

Yes, in August, Apple is going to start selling Lion on USB sticks. But I think most of us really will be able to get by without them. That’s why the USB stick installers are going to cost $69, a $40 markup over the App Store download. Apple wants us to go download-only.

James Mitchell, Thursday, 21 July 2011 08:44 (3 years ago) Permalink

Rather than try to one-up their selections I’m going to one-down them. Herewith, then, are the Top Ten Worst Westerns. Observations inside.

You can tell he’s right on most of these, from the posters alone.

god what a bore.

caek, Thursday, 21 July 2011 11:37 (3 years ago) Permalink

dude is like a demigod of suburban consumerism, yelling so loudly about inane bullshit from atop a mountain of 'slightly used' apple products. good links sometimes tho.

shaane, Thursday, 21 July 2011 16:24 (3 years ago) Permalink

http://daringfireball.net/linked/2011/07/20/scrollvetica

Scrollvetica.

SCROLLVETICA

ILX Point Never (diamonddave85), Thursday, 21 July 2011 16:29 (3 years ago) Permalink

not to mention scroll reverser has been around since day 1 of the lion betas

ILX Point Never (diamonddave85), Thursday, 21 July 2011 16:30 (3 years ago) Permalink

does it set yr scrollbars in helvetica

markers, Thursday, 21 July 2011 17:15 (3 years ago) Permalink

Marco Arment is way worse; he's like distilled Gruber shit.

stet, Thursday, 21 July 2011 17:26 (3 years ago) Permalink

I have a coworker with one of those t-shirts :/

⌘-B (mh), Friday, 10 October 2014 14:37 (1 month ago) Permalink

when they say something dumb in a meeting and are wearing the shirt you shd tell them youre filing it to claim chowder

lag∞n, Friday, 10 October 2014 14:39 (1 month ago) Permalink

hahahaha

socki (s1ocki), Friday, 10 October 2014 14:45 (1 month ago) Permalink

lol

or just knock em out with one punch and when someone tries to ask them to explain their comment you can say "UPDATE: fireballed"

sktsh, Friday, 10 October 2014 14:45 (1 month ago) Permalink

lol

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 10 October 2014 15:32 (1 month ago) Permalink

http://instagram.com/p/NXX_dDvVjn/

markers, Monday, 20 October 2014 23:27 (1 month ago) Permalink

lool

lag∞n, Monday, 20 October 2014 23:45 (1 month ago) Permalink

lmao

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 21 October 2014 15:54 (1 month ago) Permalink

I do actually enjoy Grubes' callouts of that "finally" tic.

Spirit of Match Game '76 (silby), Tuesday, 21 October 2014 16:25 (1 month ago) Permalink

(The iPhone 6 and iPhone 6 Plus are so nearly identical in Geekbench results that I simply averaged the two together under “iPhones 6”.)

phil phish (diamonddave85), Thursday, 23 October 2014 03:56 (1 month ago) Permalink

Look at how long the title is for his iPad Air 2 review. Couldn't he have called his iPhone review "iPhone 6 and iPhone 6 Plus" instead?

markers, Thursday, 23 October 2014 04:04 (1 month ago) Permalink

That’s how much the banks like Apple Pay. They’re giving you money just to try it.

Allen (etaeoe), Tuesday, 28 October 2014 13:12 (3 weeks ago) Permalink

First, the headline. I think it’s clear that Apple Pay is siding with the credit companies and banks — but they’re not pitted against consumers, they’re pitted against retailers. It’s retailers who want to reduce the use of credit cards (and the resulting fees). Not consumers. Any consumer who doesn’t want to use a credit card can simply not use a credit card. (They can still use Apple Pay with debit cards.) Apple Pay is only allowing us to more easily and securely use the credit/debit cards we already have. For consumers, nothing is worse post-Apple Pay (transaction fees are not higher — the banks pay Apple’s 0.15 percent cut), and much is better (security, privacy, and convenience).

I understand the argument that the 2-3 percent processing fees that retailers pay for credit cards are ultimately passed on to consumers in the form of higher prices, but for consumers that can be offset by cash back and reward programs from their card providers.

I don’t understand how this article amounts to anything more than “Apple should have used magic” hand-waving. What could Apple have done differently that would have actually worked, without involving credit card processors? Remember, Apple Pay doesn’t require retailers to install Apple Pay-specific POS terminal hardware. It famously works with the standard NFC hardware that’s been out for years. Building atop the existing credit card infrastructure is fundamental to people’s willingness to try Apple Pay and to retailers’ ability to accept it. Pressman is implicitly arguing that Apple should have somehow reinvented the entire retail electronic payments industry, without the help of the banks or credit card companies, and presumably with the cooperation of retailers. But we see with CurrentC/MCX the sort of things the retailers would have demanded of Apple in such a hypothetical systems.

Eagerly awaiting Felix Salmon, et al. to smack Gruber down re: interchange.

Re: “Apple should have used magic." Apple can't, but the Fed can (and is): http://www.federalreserve.gov/paymentsystems/regii-average-interchange-fee.htm

Allen (etaeoe), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 22:15 (3 weeks ago) Permalink

http://www.slate.com/blogs/future_tense/2014/11/03/filevault_2_mac_users_unsaved_files_and_screenshots_are_automatically_uploaded.html

gruber defense of this as "why wouldn't you want your stuff to be recoverable from a secure backup, idiots" in 5...4...

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 3 November 2014 20:03 (3 weeks ago) Permalink

Wait, so people are upset that "temporary files" e.g. an unsaved textedit document are backed up to iCloud? I don't quite get what's so alarming about it.

fields of salmon, Wednesday, 5 November 2014 10:51 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

Uploading what has always been local-only (hell, what had always been in-memory-only) to US servers without notice is pretty bad news. Depending on what you happened to be typing (eg personal data) you could be breaking all sorts of laws, from data protection to HIPAA.

I was quite surprised to hear about it, yep.

stet, Wednesday, 5 November 2014 11:30 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

Not surprised by this at all. The iWork apps, TextEdit, etc. all default saved to iCloud in 10.9. Suspect some Handoff/Continuity features rely on it.

Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 5 November 2014 12:29 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

https://developer.apple.com/library/ios/documentation/UserExperience/Conceptual/Handoff/HandoffFundamentals/HandoffFundamentals.html#//apple_ref/doc/uid/TP40014338-CH3-SW5

Handoff of a given user activity requires the originating app to designate that activity’s NSUserActivity object as the current activity, save pertinent data for continuation on another device, and send the data to the resuming device. Handoff passes only enough information between the devices to describe the activity itself, while larger-scale data synchronization is handled through iCloud.

is that what this is angling at? idk i'm not a dev so i might be misconstruing

sktsh, Wednesday, 5 November 2014 12:47 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

i do think it's pretty sketchy that data is being transmitted possibly across legal jurisdictions w/o explicit action of saving it on the part of the user if it's not made explicitly clear that's what's happening

sktsh, Wednesday, 5 November 2014 12:49 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

basically we're looking at a huge state sponsored version of the posts you had second thoughts about thread

sktsh, Wednesday, 5 November 2014 12:52 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

The difference from 10.9 is that then you had an explicit choice to save to iCloud or elsewhere. Now even unsaved drafts are uploaded

stet, Wednesday, 5 November 2014 13:58 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

if you're using the default set of apps, that is
<looks down nose all elitist-style>

mh, Wednesday, 5 November 2014 14:37 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

Uploading what has always been local-only (hell, what had always been in-memory-only) to US servers without notice is pretty bad news. Depending on what you happened to be typing (eg personal data) you could be breaking all sorts of laws, from data protection to HIPAA.

I was quite surprised to hear about it, yep.

The compliance issues are infuriating. Especially since it sounds like sloppy engineering rather than a useful feature.

Allen (etaeoe), Wednesday, 5 November 2014 14:41 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

I think it's a useful feature but it's one of those things where engineering does it without running it through the right channels

we have those in my workplace, we call them "cowboys" and they finally got shut down after being told that not trusting systems administrators is not a reason to run a production server on some guy's desk

mh, Wednesday, 5 November 2014 14:52 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

"There is something very wrong with this company. It’s like Richard Nixon came back from the grave and is running a startup."

ha i like this

caek, Wednesday, 19 November 2014 03:52 (5 days ago) Permalink

re: uber btw

caek, Wednesday, 19 November 2014 03:52 (5 days ago) Permalink

He's having another go at "apps are really just the web" and he's still all kinds of wrong there.

stet, Wednesday, 19 November 2014 09:48 (5 days ago) Permalink

This Kubrick obsession of his is something else.

ambergris shmambergris (silby), Thursday, 20 November 2014 01:42 (4 days ago) Permalink


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