ha yeah apparently St. Elmo's Fire is a college movie? i was thrown off by it having a bunch of the same actors from The Breakfast Club the same year they all played high school students, i guess.
― admin logbs (some dude), Tuesday, 21 June 2011 02:31 (twelve years ago) link
anyhow voted fast times over heathers (the bookends), many others i regard very fondly though revisiting even the ones i'm pretty sure are actually really good (eg risky business) pretty much always diminishes them in my eyes.
― balls, Tuesday, 21 June 2011 02:31 (twelve years ago) link
anyway i am voting Real Genius narrowly over Better Off Dead. i always feel like i should like Heathers and Fast Times as much as other people do but i've never really gotten into them.
st elmos is post college, it's "about" that, it's also about the most vile group of yuppies ever captured on film, whit stillman eat yr heart out.
― balls, Tuesday, 21 June 2011 02:32 (twelve years ago) link
real genius one of the very very few that held up for me
I love how The Last American Virgin takes a dark, sad turn. That NEVER happened in teen films then and definitely not now.
― Alpaca Lips (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 21 June 2011 02:34 (twelve years ago) link
Say Anything over Gregory's Girl (show Bill Forsythe some love, bitches) and Real Genius. For lots of these movies "wretched" is too kind.
― The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 21 June 2011 02:34 (twelve years ago) link
Fast Times, Rivers Edge and Heathers are all good fun, but I think I may vote for Valley Girl.
― Darin, Tuesday, 21 June 2011 02:34 (twelve years ago) link
Say Anything in a walk, for me.
― aguirre, the wrath of frogbs (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 21 June 2011 02:35 (twelve years ago) link
funnily enough this can also double as a 'best curtis armstrong movie' poll
― little dieter wants to FUCK (Princess TamTam), Tuesday, 21 June 2011 02:36 (twelve years ago) link
michelle meyrink you are missed
― balls, Tuesday, 21 June 2011 02:36 (twelve years ago) link
tamtam southland tales ain't up there dude
― balls, Tuesday, 21 June 2011 02:37 (twelve years ago) link
no The Boy Who Could Fly, no cred.
― Alpaca Lips (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 21 June 2011 02:37 (twelve years ago) link
its a college movie but you put it in the poll and im voting for it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3njjD41f48
― little dieter wants to FUCK (Princess TamTam), Tuesday, 21 June 2011 02:38 (twelve years ago) link
Zapped! needed to be here
fast times probably but baby it's you and my bodyguard are good iirc
― buzza, Tuesday, 21 June 2011 02:39 (twelve years ago) link
lol The Boy Who Could Fly, ain't seen or heard of that in a minute.
what the hell was the name of that movie, I think on Disney, about the kid that was a robot....
― aguirre, the wrath of frogbs (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 21 June 2011 02:40 (twelve years ago) link
I need all six days to consider my vote very carefully. This is an important poll to me!
― \(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Tuesday, 21 June 2011 02:41 (twelve years ago) link
movies about college freshmen generally fit under the umbrella of teen movies imo, although obv i was sloppy with including one of the Revenge of the Nerds sequels in there
― admin logbs (some dude), Tuesday, 21 June 2011 02:42 (twelve years ago) link
ahh I know which one it was, Not Quite Human!
― aguirre, the wrath of frogbs (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 21 June 2011 02:42 (twelve years ago) link
one crazy summer is actually my preferred savage steve holland/cusack collab and i strongly considered voting for it
― little dieter wants to FUCK (Princess TamTam), Tuesday, 21 June 2011 02:43 (twelve years ago) link
never really been into that one. love Cusack but the lols were fewer and far between than in the far superior Better Off Dead, imo.
― aguirre, the wrath of frogbs (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 21 June 2011 02:44 (twelve years ago) link
Fewer in what?
― \(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Tuesday, 21 June 2011 02:47 (twelve years ago) link
Better off dead is pretty hard to beat.
baby it's you seems qualitatively different than the rest of these
― horseshoe, Tuesday, 21 June 2011 02:48 (twelve years ago) link
Saw this in the theatre lol
― The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 21 June 2011 02:48 (twelve years ago) link
One Crazy Summer is great...except for the Demi-as-aspiring-rockstar parts.
― Alpaca Lips (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 21 June 2011 02:49 (twelve years ago) link
I would be kidding myself if I voted for anything other than say anything as my fav but there are some classics here.
― \(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Tuesday, 21 June 2011 02:49 (twelve years ago) link
my heart is breaking over the exclusion of The Legend of Billie Jean...but I guess it's not much of a comedy.
― Alpaca Lips (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 21 June 2011 02:50 (twelve years ago) link
you know what could have been in this poll is pump up the volume. lol.
― horseshoe, Tuesday, 21 June 2011 02:51 (twelve years ago) link
I was weirdly obsessed with dream a little dream when I was younger. It's an incredibly weird movie.
― \(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Tuesday, 21 June 2011 02:51 (twelve years ago) link
yeah, and gregory's girl
― buzza, Tuesday, 21 June 2011 02:51 (twelve years ago) link
is that a coreys movie?
xp
TALK HARD
― \(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Tuesday, 21 June 2011 02:52 (twelve years ago) link
But neither is The Chocolate War or Less Than Zero or...
The Legend of Billie Jean should REALLY be here. xps to me
― Alpaca Lips (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 21 June 2011 02:52 (twelve years ago) link
omg talk hard
― horseshoe, Tuesday, 21 June 2011 02:52 (twelve years ago) link
Dream a Little Dream? Yeah, Coreys.
― horseshoe, Monday, June 20, 2011 10:51 PM (30 seconds ago) Bookmark
1990!
― little dieter wants to FUCK (Princess TamTam), Tuesday, 21 June 2011 02:52 (twelve years ago) link
oh i didn't even see "80s" sorry!
― horseshoe, Tuesday, 21 June 2011 02:53 (twelve years ago) link
Gleaming the Cube would've been eligible, tho.
― Alpaca Lips (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 21 June 2011 02:53 (twelve years ago) link
Surprised pump up the volume was 1990 tbh
― \(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Tuesday, 21 June 2011 02:53 (twelve years ago) link
also yeah Legend of Billie Jean
FAIR IS FAIR
― lots of janitors have something to say (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 21 June 2011 02:54 (twelve years ago) link
I loved gleaming the cube.
I was a slater fan.
― \(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Tuesday, 21 June 2011 02:54 (twelve years ago) link
so many gems here, kinda wanna go with the "underrated" canonical pick Last American Virgin.
Disney boy robot movie = The Computer War Tennis Shoes (Kurt Russell) probably?
things list is missing:Over the Edge
bunch of stuff that doesn't qualify (Nerds, Stand by Me, St. Elmos)
my god Christian Slater's hair and nipples are awesome in Pump Up the Volume; he taught us that one could look smashing semi-nude while blasting Peter Murphy.
― The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 21 June 2011 02:54 (twelve years ago) link
At scene was so hot
― \(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Tuesday, 21 June 2011 02:55 (twelve years ago) link
Errr that scene
whither Samantha Mathis?
― Alpaca Lips (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 21 June 2011 02:56 (twelve years ago) link
i have a coworker that continually casually drops meredith salenger's name into conversation, like it's a name i should just know (like it's melanie meyrink or joyce hyser or something), to the point that now it is a name i just know.
― balls, Tuesday, 21 June 2011 02:56 (twelve years ago) link
the last samantha mathis role i remember was in the american president. then i feel like she was in a tv movie about king arthur's court, but i did not catch that one.
― horseshoe, Tuesday, 21 June 2011 02:56 (twelve years ago) link
it's not like you were gonna vote for it anyway, be real.
I really would have. In its place, I went with The Last American Virgin.
It's a shame The Legend of Billie Jean has never made it to dvd—music licensing issues is the claim—its rep is disappearing altogether because of it.
― Alpaca Lips (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 21 June 2011 16:35 (twelve years ago) link
as I understand it, she was not Michael Jackson's lover; she's just a girl who said that he was the one (but the kid was not his son)
― chupacabra - a delicious burrito (DJP), Tuesday, 21 June 2011 16:37 (twelve years ago) link
it's not without its pleasures, but it's a mess of a movie. the scene where yeardley smith gets her first period is lol. also the rich kid whose mansion they crash.
― lots of janitors have something to say (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 21 June 2011 16:37 (twelve years ago) link
it is very proto-Thelma & Louise tho
― lots of janitors have something to say (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 21 June 2011 16:38 (twelve years ago) link
wait we're defending The Legend of Billie Jean? Is it any good?
― The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 21 June 2011 16:39 (twelve years ago) link
It's great! Ugh, why do I even bother.
― Alpaca Lips (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 21 June 2011 16:40 (twelve years ago) link
I don't think it's great, but it is worth watching
― lots of janitors have something to say (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 21 June 2011 16:40 (twelve years ago) link
I'm trying to think of a mainstream movie that's predates LTZ that prominently features gay hustling... is there one? (Cruising, I guess?
Midnight Cowboy? It won Best Picture and everything.
― Shart Shaped Box (Phil D.), Tuesday, 21 June 2011 16:40 (twelve years ago) link
gay hustling not as prominent in Midnight Cowboy as most people tend to think/remember. Voight spends a grand total of ONE scene being propositioned by a guy in a bathroom that looks like Tom Hulce and iirc he turns him down and freaks out. which is a far cry from RDJ giving an on-screen bj while naked in return for coke.
― lots of janitors have something to say (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 21 June 2011 16:42 (twelve years ago) link
er wait no the guy who propositions him is Bobby Balaban...?! can't remember
Voight also gets head in a movie theatre.
― The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 21 June 2011 16:42 (twelve years ago) link
re: Billie Jean
The Joan of Arc nods are kind of heavy-handed (even thought so when I was younger) but aside from that it's a good rebellion tale starring a young, hot Helen Slater and one of Pat Benatar's best singles.
Plus Yeardly Smith, Christian Slater, Dean Stockwell, and Peter Coyote.
FAIR IS FAIR YALL
― Alpaca Lips (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 21 June 2011 16:43 (twelve years ago) link
is that the Balaban scene? I haven't seen it in like 10 years.
― lots of janitors have something to say (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 21 June 2011 16:43 (twelve years ago) link
but yeah fair point Midnight Cowboy yeah. LTZ maybe just more blatant about it.
― lots of janitors have something to say (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 21 June 2011 16:44 (twelve years ago) link
being propositioned by a guy in a bathroom that looks like Tom Hulce
all bathrooms look like Tom Hulce to me tho
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Tuesday, 21 June 2011 16:44 (twelve years ago) link
In LTZ the novel the bisexuality is fairly explicit - and fairly unconvincing, like lots of Ellis.
― The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 21 June 2011 16:46 (twelve years ago) link
gay hustling not as prominent in Midnight Cowboy as most people tend to think/remember. Voight spends a grand total of ONE scene being propositioned
You're not counting the John McGiver or Barnard Hughes scenes.
― clemenza, Tuesday, 21 June 2011 16:47 (twelve years ago) link
i think just one of the guys was my second tit flick.
― Cindy Mancini can ride my lawnmower anytime (thebingo), Tuesday, 21 June 2011 16:48 (twelve years ago) link
stripes even had bush.
I think the first movie I ever saw boobs in was Kramer v. Kramer. Woohoo.
― Shart Shaped Box (Phil D.), Tuesday, 21 June 2011 16:49 (twelve years ago) link
BTW they were Dustin Hoffman's boobs.
IIRC, in LTZ the book there is a fairly graphic paragraph detailing how difficult it is when dried-up semen sticks your tongue to the roof of your mouth
― chupacabra - a delicious burrito (DJP), Tuesday, 21 June 2011 16:50 (twelve years ago) link
One Crazy Summer is on TV right now...Joe Flaherty's speech is so classic
― admin logbs (some dude), Tuesday, 21 June 2011 17:27 (twelve years ago) link
Joe Flaherty is classic.
― I don't know who Cerebus is, and I'm 6'0 and 192 (Nicole), Tuesday, 21 June 2011 17:27 (twelve years ago) link
Got The Last American Virgin off netflix. Egads, that "I Will Follow" sequence...
― Mucho! Macho! Honcho!: Turn Off The Dark (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 23 June 2011 15:33 (twelve years ago) link
Less Than Zero could've been a great 80s black-and-white movie, a la Stranger Than Paradise and Chan is Missing, but glossy.
― Let me tell you something about that song. (Eazy), Thursday, 23 June 2011 15:37 (twelve years ago) link
Speaking of firsts, was there a scene somewhere where Tom Selleck dropped his pants to reveal male frontal nudity, maybe in 9-5 or something? That really traumatized me.
― Virginia Plain, Thursday, 23 June 2011 15:51 (twelve years ago) link
did it have its own mustache?
― some dude, Thursday, 23 June 2011 15:51 (twelve years ago) link
Probably. I tried to block it out. The memory, not the mustache.
― Virginia Plain, Thursday, 23 June 2011 16:01 (twelve years ago) link
uh Tom Selleck is not in 9-to-5
― winoa ryder sexes creatures of the night (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 23 June 2011 16:02 (twelve years ago) link
his penis is, tho (credited as "Dabney Coleman")
― chupacabra - a delicious burrito (DJP), Thursday, 23 June 2011 16:03 (twelve years ago) link
Apparently Selleck goes full frontal in "An Innocent Man" (89) but that's a bit late for me to have been traumatized. Maybe it was just some random mustachioed man who ruined my childhood.
― Virginia Plain, Thursday, 23 June 2011 16:30 (twelve years ago) link
Hot Dog: The MoviePrivate LessonsMidnight Madness
― thirdalternative, Thursday, 23 June 2011 17:07 (twelve years ago) link
Voted Fast Times.
By the way, watched "My Bodyguard" for the first time in many decades last weekend and detected a homoerotic subtext I hadn't noticed back when I was the film's target audience. Anyone else notice this or am I just getting gayer as I age?
― thirdalternative, Thursday, 23 June 2011 17:09 (twelve years ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.
― System, Sunday, 26 June 2011 23:01 (twelve years ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.
― System, Monday, 27 June 2011 23:01 (twelve years ago) link
never saw these results!
why would anyone vote for Risky Business, honestly, idgi
― some dude, Saturday, 2 July 2011 01:54 (twelve years ago) link
^^^Bob Seger is a lurker.
― Mucho! Macho! Honcho!: Turn Off The Dark (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 2 July 2011 01:55 (twelve years ago) link
http://the-toast.net/2014/09/30/sexual-racial-politics-nerd-culture-dialogue/
Interesting--and, to my memory, spot on--observations on Revenge of the Nerds. I doubt that there is anything that they're talking about here that was at all out of sync with the sexual politics of the time (Animal House, RotN's own "urtext," contains a similarly rapey gag, remember), but as this film seems to enjoy a better reputation than the most of the others listed in this thread, probably worth minding nonetheless.
― That shit right there is precedented. (cryptosicko), Saturday, 28 March 2015 18:10 (nine years ago) link
i have never seen this movie and literally the only thing i know about it is rape. it's because i've read thinkpieces, obv, but i could prob have just deduced it from the title.
― difficult listening hour, Saturday, 28 March 2015 19:40 (nine years ago) link
The Last American Virgin is out on blu-ray May 26. Budget accordingly.
― That shit right there is precedented. (cryptosicko), Wednesday, 1 April 2015 01:18 (nine years ago) link
^^That one got a Criterion-style release on blu from Arrow in the UK.
― Don A Henley And Get Over It (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 1 April 2015 02:40 (nine years ago) link
Class 1
I was curious enough about this film--having caught pieces on it cable as a kid--to pay $1 for a VHS copy at Goodwill some time ago, and now having finally watched it I'm not sure how there even exists one person in the world who thinks that Class is superior to Say Anything, Heathers, My Bodyguard or even Fast Times at Ridgemont High, but it is not unwatchable. It actually flirts with sympathy for the Jacqueline Bisset character, though in the end her character remains underwritten to the point I actually got angry with the film for diverting scenes that could be devoted to fleshing out her character in favour dumb slapstick, teenage stoner antics and a boring test-cheating subplot. It's not a good movie, but there are moments where it feels like it is striving towards being a good one, and that's more than can be said for many of its contemporaries--or the still inexplicably overrated American Pie, for that matter.
― pitchforkian at best (cryptosicko), Friday, 26 February 2016 18:50 (eight years ago) link