quiddities and agonies of the ruling class - a rolling new york times thread

Uh these people don't make 100k a yr
They make a lot more

haha for real i figured there was a zero missing or something

i mean i know people who make 100k per yr and they can't afford nannies

y'know in New York i mean

esp if yr living in manhattan/park slope, i'd imagine!!

xp

they key to a lasting marriage is getting a nanny for yr husband so u can goto yoga five times a week is the lesson i took from this article

also the nanny can do yr coop shift is a lesson i learned from a previous article

if you're living in bumfuck kansas and 100k buys you a decent house then quiddit away
but up here if you wanna put some cheese on that foiegras burger you better come incorrect

100k isn't nanny territory in most urban centers, i'd imagine, since if you're using one year-round they're basically an employee making something better than minimum wage. an ex of sorts worked as a nanny in chi and i think she had a very comfortable salary (for a 20something), and was working like 35hrs a week at least.

according to an article quite recently linked itt a person in the top 1% of the population earned $3,061,546 last year so yeah

idk i thought the divorce article had a legit premise ruined by the stlye section template. i mean:

- the premise appears to be broadly true, rather than something that three ppl the author knows have done
- is sociologically interesting
- potentially 'important' effects on social policy/attiutdes towards divorce in the culture &c

the fact that the article is mostly terrible ppl talking abt yoga is sorta lol, but like the style section is not interested enough in the lives of actual poor ppl to look @ why the attitudes & resulting divorce rates differ by income, or really to do any sort of deep thinking at all

not sure how we missed this one http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/18/nyregion/18coop.html

lol I don't even think I can read that.

did ththe fact that the article is mostly terrible ppl talking abt yoga is sorta lol, but like the style section is not interested enough in the lives of actual poor ppl to look @ why the attitudes & resulting divorce rates differ by income, or really to do any sort of deep thinking at all

― Dr. Frog, B.S., M.S.E., Ph.D (Lamp), Tuesday, June 21, 2011 12:10 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

yeah it didnt even mention that people getting married older might have something to do w/the trend which is like the most obvious elementary observation

xp i couldn't make it past the first page but two excellent pull quotes from there alone:

“This is completely unfair. It’s all about equity, and there are so many levels of inequity here.”

The post had the deliciousness of a Candace Bushnell novel, or maybe, for connoisseurs of locavore fiction, an Amy Sohn novel.

i kinda imagine cankles reading that last quote aloud and it cracks me up

totally writing a locavore novel before the market gets oversaturated

there are some ppl that i genuinely wld not feel bad if they were murdered

“I’m a punk rocker at heart, so rules are tough for me,” Mr. Delon said. “Sometimes I ask myself if the co-op is really worth it.”

“I’m a punk rocker at heart, so rules are tough for me,” Mr. Delon said. “Sometimes I ask myself if the co-op is really worth it.”

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lol

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“I’m a punk rocker at heart, so rules are tough for me,” Mr. Delon said. “Sometimes I ask myself if the co-op is really worth it.”

― \(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Tuesday, June 21, 2011 12:20 PM (57 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

^paraphrasing a black flag song iirc

"I'm a locavore reader because it's bad for the environment to have to ship books all the way from China"

x-post GOOLE WHAT ARE YOU QUOTING IS THAT A DISEASE?

that is the fictitious spam name slash harry potter spell that wrote this article

http://www.hellohenry.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/jbflag.jpg

black flag logo will no doubt outlive all memory of the band

xp to myself: heh ok i was just making fun of her name, looking at other bylines it looks like she (?) is a p basic city beat reporter mostly

kind of tangentially related but it always seems college profs and now, nyt writers have the weirdest names

It's an amazing name tbh.

and republican senators

the worst style writers have these irritating vaguely european names like george gurley and guy trebay

I guess maybe I don't "get" the Park Slope Food Co-op but what's the idea here? Why not just pay for delivery from Whole Foods if you're not going to actually take part in the ethos that is supposed to define a co-op? I mean if you're paying someone to do it anyway it's probably not less cost-effective (although I guess the implication is that nannies are on salary anyway and aren't getting extra comp to do this task).

oh the coop is more than a supermarket

A girl I went to HS with posts about her shifts there all the time. It's really boring and I'd just hide her but she posts pics of her funny looking kid wearing ridiculous outfits that make me laugh.

^^ half the reason of being friends with ex-schoolmates who have kids

More money quotes at the end:
Jeremie Delon, 31, an on-again, off-again member, admitted to taking some pleasure from the thought that co-op members might sometimes misbehave.

Mr. Delon said he had dropped out of the co-op five years ago, after a woman yelled at him for leaving his cart in the checkout line while he went back for an item he had forgotten (another violation of co-op rules). He rejoined recently after becoming a father.

He said the co-op had asked for a birth certificate as proof of the baby’s existence, and was now chasing down the baby’s mother, demanding that she join and put in her time, because all adult members of a household are required to work shifts.

“I’m a punk rocker at heart, so rules are tough for me,” Mr. Delon said. “Sometimes I ask myself if the co-op is really worth it.”

Some members conceded that having the nanny do the work was tempting. “In my fantasy, I’d have my nanny cover my shift,” Sarah Rivkin, 39, said. But she added that she knew that would be “inappropriate.”

Anyway, she said she would be too intimidated. A friend of hers had married a Cuban immigrant, who summed up why Ms. Rivkin felt that way.

“His assessment of the co-op is that the co-op is worse than socialism,” she said. “Because at least in a socialist country, if you know the right people, you can get out of it.”

i was at the co-op market today and a member ahead of me spent like 20 bucks and got 16 cents of their purchase. actually i don't remember what they spent. something around 20 bucks. they had a bunch of stuff. anyway i'm never joining cuz the people annoy me too much. the members. not the people who work there. although some of them too.

i feel like i read so much about how terrible the co-op is and nothing about the mysterious people who are such sticklers about the rules

'i know a cuban.' --ms rivkin

“In my fantasy, I’d have my nanny cover my shift,” Sarah Rivkin, 39, said. But she added that she knew that would be “inappropriate.”

Wait, so the fantasy wasn't that she would be able to have a nanny, but that her nanny would cover her shift.

I'm going to be permanently o_O about the Cuban socialism comment

kinda sucks when members are working too cuz they are so slow and look dazed. i kinda wish they had their nannies doing it instead.

As a cuban immigrant, he clearly has perspective on life. I mean it's not like he might have been a member of a wealthy, spoiled elite or anything.

kinda sucks when members are working too cuz they are so slow and look dazed. i kinda wish they had their nannies doing it instead.

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i was at a friends last night who had just come from the coop and she was complaining abt how the guy whos job it is to tell you which checkout counter to go to was p much incapable of identifying available counters

i was at the co-op market today and a member ahead of me spent like 20 bucks and got 16 cents of their purchase. actually i don't remember what they spent. something around 20 bucks. they had a bunch of stuff. anyway i'm never joining cuz the people annoy me too much. the members. not the people who work there. although some of them too.

― scott seward, Tuesday, June 21, 2011 2:03 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

pk slope coop is kinda unique in that you have to me a member to shop there and it does actually have good prices/selection - but id never join cause fuck working at a supermarket just have access to cheap kale

people who join co-ops and don't want to do the work can blow me a million times.

that market is the only place in town where i get visibly agitated. it can be hard. the customers are very very oblivious to their surroundings. people are constantly knocking into me or not seeing me trying to get around them as they have long conversations in the middle of aisles. but i like the stuff there. even if 3/4 of the surrounding "community" could never afford to shop there very often.

well also it isn't that hard to have access to cheap vege in CA so whatever, you NYers are just lost causes.