quiddities and agonies of the ruling class - a rolling new york times thread

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looks like a 15 minute walk on the map maybe

mississippi delta law grad (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 21 June 2011 19:43 (twelve years ago) link

yeah but not a super convenient walk for most people in park slope

iatee, Tuesday, 21 June 2011 19:44 (twelve years ago) link

its less than a mile, coops goin doooown

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 21 June 2011 19:45 (twelve years ago) link

but...lots of parking space

iatee, Tuesday, 21 June 2011 19:45 (twelve years ago) link

odd future WF gowanus shop them all

Don't start the chain you know? (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 21 June 2011 19:48 (twelve years ago) link

Well maybe the WF will clear out all these NANNY-SHOPPIN POSEURS and free up the co-op for REAL HARDCORE SOCIALISTS

mississippi delta law grad (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 21 June 2011 20:22 (twelve years ago) link

i wonder if they saw any impact from the trader joes on atlantic

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 21 June 2011 20:24 (twelve years ago) link

man i am interested in some boring shit

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 21 June 2011 20:24 (twelve years ago) link

solitary posts that effortless describe etc

dayo, Tuesday, 21 June 2011 20:25 (twelve years ago) link

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/06/26/fashion/life-in-the-fishbowl-for-jared-kushner.html?_r=1&hpw

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2011/06/26/fashion/26KUSHNER_SPAN/26KUSHNER_SPAN-articleLarge-v2.jpg

"Oh hi, I'm the smug little shit scion of a corrupt real estate family. I haven't actually succeeded at anything -- in fact my first and only two business moves were extremely bad. But I'm married to Donald Trump's daughter. Why don't you do a section-front-page profile of me that opens into a two-page spread."

mississippi delta law grad (Hurting 2), Sunday, 26 June 2011 13:06 (twelve years ago) link

a seraphic figure with neatly sculptured chestnut brown hair and fair skin

tipper gore (nakhchivan), Sunday, 26 June 2011 13:09 (twelve years ago) link

It's true, young women do try to marry a man who's like dear old dad.

mh, Sunday, 26 June 2011 16:18 (twelve years ago) link

One day in early 2009, a security breakdown in The Observer’s computer system allowed employees access to one another’s hard drives. A few staff members with prying eyes went into Mr. Kushner’s and found a file with an intriguing name. They opened it and found pictures of their boss and Ms. Trump, his girlfriend at the time, and Billy Joel aboard Mr. Murdoch’s sailboat, Rosehearty.

For a group that had seen its ranks shrunk by layoffs and demoralized by pay cuts, the sight of their young publisher surrounded by such decadence was a sore one.

this is so stupid

how exactly were they unclear about him being rich

iatee, Sunday, 26 June 2011 16:25 (twelve years ago) link

"I already know you're a spoiled rich kid who owns our paper...but a picture with billy joel!! that crosses the line!"

iatee, Sunday, 26 June 2011 16:32 (twelve years ago) link

observer staffers HATE billy joel

ice cr?m, Sunday, 26 June 2011 16:33 (twelve years ago) link

Nothing says hedonistic conspicuous consumption like chillin with Billy Joel.

o_O the humanity (Jesse), Sunday, 26 June 2011 17:27 (twelve years ago) link

He charges $3,500/hour for that shit.

phantoms from a world gone by speak again the immortal tale: (Jenny), Sunday, 26 June 2011 17:32 (twelve years ago) link

Does anyone actually read the New York Observer?

mississippi delta law grad (Hurting 2), Sunday, 26 June 2011 20:04 (twelve years ago) link

what counts as "anyone"

☂ (max), Sunday, 26 June 2011 20:12 (twelve years ago) link

ah:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_New_York_Observer

The New York Observer asserts to advertisers that it delivers Manhattan’s most affluent, educated and influential consumers, with the average net worth of its readership exceeding $1.7 million and 96% of readers being college graduates. It has a paid circulation of 51,000.

mississippi delta law grad (Hurting 2), Sunday, 26 June 2011 20:20 (twelve years ago) link

the average net worth of its readership exceeding $1.7 million

what

mh, Sunday, 26 June 2011 21:22 (twelve years ago) link

yeah, seems low

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 26 June 2011 22:43 (twelve years ago) link

it went up a lot when i stopped reading it

Guayaquil (eephus!), Sunday, 26 June 2011 22:58 (twelve years ago) link

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/06/28/us/politics/28mica.html?

not a ruling class article but prob the single worst sentence I've read this month, rip nyt:

But getting even a small fraction of the 2.3 million people living along the rail corridor to ride trains may be difficult, state officials acknowledge. Separating drivers from their cars would be like forcing Mickey and Minnie Mouse to divorce.

iatee, Tuesday, 28 June 2011 16:50 (twelve years ago) link

job juggalos

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/06/26/business/26work.html?_r=2&hp

am0n, Tuesday, 28 June 2011 16:53 (twelve years ago) link

Wait does working 80 hours a week to earn $30k before taxes with a college degree really belong on this thread?

I'll show you the power of laughter! (Abbbottt), Tuesday, 28 June 2011 16:56 (twelve years ago) link

not really. that girl should move out of the upper west side though.

iatee, Tuesday, 28 June 2011 16:58 (twelve years ago) link

yeah you've actually managed to find an article about the kinds of problems and anxieties normal people have to deal with!

xpost well, probably.

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 28 June 2011 17:01 (twelve years ago) link

yeah not really an offender for this thread but

Mr. Fierro, who calls himself an “aesthetic consultant,”

made me lol

onimho (dayo), Tuesday, 28 June 2011 17:43 (twelve years ago) link

There may be a hidden "quiddities and agonies of the children of the ruling class" angle in some of those stories

mississippi delta law grad (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 28 June 2011 17:57 (twelve years ago) link

But I don't want to be too presumptuous

mississippi delta law grad (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 28 June 2011 17:58 (twelve years ago) link

idk there's just enough cluelessness in that article, like "actors hold down odd jobs" is a sort of recent trend? no

jackie tretorn (elmo argonaut), Tuesday, 28 June 2011 18:03 (twelve years ago) link

ya i think u guys see it. its subtle but its there

am0n, Tuesday, 28 June 2011 18:12 (twelve years ago) link

comments on that one are pretty good

mississippi delta law grad (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 28 June 2011 18:26 (twelve years ago) link

ya i think u guys see it. its subtle but its there

Yeah. Taking a second job so you can live in a hip, expensive neighborhood and take trips to New Orleans. Having to actually save money (by not spending $5 bills no less) to buy three airline tickets. Turning down a full time job with benefits bc then you wouldn't be able to go on auditions whenever you wanted.

phantoms from a world gone by speak again the immortal tale: (Jenny), Tuesday, 28 June 2011 19:33 (twelve years ago) link

they're still poor tho

iatee, Tuesday, 28 June 2011 19:36 (twelve years ago) link

I mean, that's not "Woe is me I bought a huge expensive house and now nobody will visit me in the suburbs" but it's still a "working class" profile that focuses on the whining of the privileged. If you can leave that bowl of $5 bills alone long enough to afford a plane ticket, things aren't that dire. It's just more like "Here's an article about how some people can't afford to do whatever they want all the time, sometimes because they would rather go on acting auditions than have a stable job and sometimes bc they want to live in hip neighborhoods."

phantoms from a world gone by speak again the immortal tale: (Jenny), Tuesday, 28 June 2011 19:37 (twelve years ago) link

idk not all of them are voluntarily not in a stable job...

iatee, Tuesday, 28 June 2011 19:42 (twelve years ago) link

True. And I'm sympathetic, mostly. Also empathetic - I could probably afford to save for retirement if I lived in a cheaper neighborhood (and I have two jobs!). I just see how this has elements of classic NYT q&a style reporting.

phantoms from a world gone by speak again the immortal tale: (Jenny), Tuesday, 28 June 2011 19:48 (twelve years ago) link

“Of course, it stresses me out not to have health insurance, but what is my choice? Work in an office and be unhappy? Being happy is a superhigh value to me.”

jackie tretorn (elmo argonaut), Tuesday, 28 June 2011 19:53 (twelve years ago) link

I'm not sympathetic at all. They all seem to be asking for it, to like it, even. Also, the amount of money they're making compared to the amount they pay in rent doesn't really add up. One person still has over $1,500 left after rent. Where does it go? They also all seem really employable.

bamcquern, Tuesday, 28 June 2011 19:53 (twelve years ago) link

Chick in the picture also has a very nice looking raincoat and boots. I guess it could be H&M or something that level but the coat looks kind of burberryish.

mississippi delta law grad (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 28 June 2011 19:56 (twelve years ago) link

“Of course, it stresses me out not to have health insurance, but what is my choice? Work in an office and be unhappy? Being happy is a superhigh value to me.”

this doesn't actually sound so unreasonable to me!

iatee, Tuesday, 28 June 2011 19:57 (twelve years ago) link

but hey she's "living paycheck to paycheck" lol

rip nyc chicken (am0n), Tuesday, 28 June 2011 19:57 (twelve years ago) link

anyway can we all just agree that the nyt is just really shitty at coming up w/ examples of people worth any sympathy

but I mean the ~idea~ of poor young people juggling crappy jobs, I mean they do exist, I can help them find some next time

iatee, Tuesday, 28 June 2011 19:58 (twelve years ago) link

HARK! AN EXPERT:

But beware: Too much multitasking makes it harder to sustain attention, according to Kirk Snyder, an assistant professor of communications at the Marshall School of Business at the University of Southern California, who researches the changing workplace values of Gen Y.

and BEHOLD! A BUZZWORD:

More college graduates are working in second jobs that don’t require college degrees, part of a phenomenon called “mal-employment.” In short, many baby-sitters, sales clerks, telemarketers and bartenders are overqualified for their jobs.

jackie tretorn (elmo argonaut), Tuesday, 28 June 2011 19:59 (twelve years ago) link

Hey, I can't afford a Burberry raincoat. I am no longer sympathetic.

phantoms from a world gone by speak again the immortal tale: (Jenny), Tuesday, 28 June 2011 20:00 (twelve years ago) link

Bartenders with college degrees! Well, I never!

mh, Tuesday, 28 June 2011 20:01 (twelve years ago) link

an assistant professor of communications

wonder what that pays

rip nyc chicken (am0n), Tuesday, 28 June 2011 20:01 (twelve years ago) link

I could probably afford a Burberry raincoat if I lived in a cheaper hood a d drank cheaper beer. NYT! Call me!

phantoms from a world gone by speak again the immortal tale: (Jenny), Tuesday, 28 June 2011 20:03 (twelve years ago) link


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