quiddities and agonies of the ruling class - a rolling new york times thread

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had never heard of 'georgetown' brooklyn before, apparently it's an ugly little planned subdivision of bergen beach

iatee, Saturday, 9 July 2011 15:21 (twelve years ago) link

and yeah he's full of shit

iatee, Saturday, 9 July 2011 15:21 (twelve years ago) link

ha i mean the guy is full of shit w/r/t the "memory loss" thing but if were looking for reasons why the members of PMER were targeted:

He said the tenant wanted to know if Mr. Marshall could get some cocaine or Ecstasy in time for a party that night. Mr. Marshall said he told them he doubted it. The victims have consistently given a different account: two of them were eating sandwiches outside when Mr. Marshall approached and mumbled something about Ecstasy — “just, like, talking to himself,” one musician, Ian Harris, 18, said — before drifting away.

Mr. Harris added a minor twist of his own when he conceded that he was recently arrested for possession of Ecstasy in Pennsylvania, a fact he had shared with Mr. Marshall during the conversation, but he said he never sought any drugs from him. The police have said the robbery did not appear to be drug-related.

☂ (max), Saturday, 9 July 2011 15:43 (twelve years ago) link

its cool of the NYT to do the follow up and get "the other side of the story" such as it is, tho

☂ (max), Saturday, 9 July 2011 15:43 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah, sort of less "other side" and more just "this is a weird-ass story, let's run with it"

mississippi delta law grad (Hurting 2), Saturday, 9 July 2011 15:55 (twelve years ago) link

well in this case the "other side" is "a weird ass story"

the details about the guys grandmother being a CO made me think that maybe the reporter wanted to do a "this is how the other half lives" bit but then it turned out the guy was kinda nuts

☂ (max), Saturday, 9 July 2011 16:11 (twelve years ago) link

lol i spent 10 mins browsing ebay for vintage rolexes earlier this week :-\

gr8080+ (gr8080), Saturday, 9 July 2011 19:40 (twelve years ago) link

I had this vintage Swatch watch from the 80s I used to like to wear. The graphics looked like Saved by the Bell or some shit. I miss that thing.

Spectrum, Saturday, 9 July 2011 19:43 (twelve years ago) link

lol i spent 10 mins browsing ebay for vintage rolexes earlier this week :-\

― gr8080+ (gr8080), Saturday, July 9, 2011 3:40 PM Bookmark

I have to admit that article just made me want a vintage dress watch.

mississippi delta law grad (Hurting 2), Saturday, 9 July 2011 20:11 (twelve years ago) link

i'm always 2 days ahead of the nyt when it comes to trends

gr8080+ (gr8080), Saturday, 9 July 2011 20:20 (twelve years ago) link

my expensive watch really used to be my grandfathers, he left it to me when he died, its too nice to ever wear so it sits in a box in my sock drawer

((( (Lamp), Saturday, 9 July 2011 20:25 (twelve years ago) link

some buds of mine have been "into" watches for a while now. buying knockoffs from eBay and stuff, drawers full of the things

g++ (gbx), Saturday, 9 July 2011 20:26 (twelve years ago) link

"I got watches I ain't seen in months"

relentlessly googling hipster (Hurting 2), Saturday, 9 July 2011 21:13 (twelve years ago) link

I can't really imagine being "into" them in the sense of having more than two or three, but I'm beginning to see the usefulness of having the time on your wrist instead of in your pocket. Plus they say it "projects an air of reliability"

relentlessly googling hipster (Hurting 2), Saturday, 9 July 2011 21:13 (twelve years ago) link

the problem for me with watches is that the ones i like are too expensive for me to wear.

you've got male (jim in glasgow), Saturday, 9 July 2011 21:15 (twelve years ago) link

also i have the wrists of a little girl.

you've got male (jim in glasgow), Saturday, 9 July 2011 21:15 (twelve years ago) link

i have to wear a watch.

but since i can't have nice things, i just get cheapo digitals from target. i've actually got two identical ones that i keep lying around the house since i frequently misplace/recover them

g++ (gbx), Saturday, 9 July 2011 21:25 (twelve years ago) link

haha i just re-watched the BBC hitchhiker's guide and i remember douglas adams's distinct disdain for digital watches

XD

KARLOR CAN FUCK ANYTHING! AND HE WILL AND HAS!!! (Eisbaer), Saturday, 9 July 2011 21:30 (twelve years ago) link

i have mine on military time

g++ (gbx), Saturday, 9 July 2011 21:31 (twelve years ago) link

but do you have the face of the watch on the inside of your wrist?

((( (Lamp), Saturday, 9 July 2011 21:32 (twelve years ago) link

only if i'm running

g++ (gbx), Saturday, 9 July 2011 21:33 (twelve years ago) link

h8 watches on me

ice cr?m, Saturday, 9 July 2011 21:37 (twelve years ago) link

being into watches is such a financial industry thing, good job catching up to these bold trendsetters other materialistic people profiled in the nytimes

ice cr?m, Saturday, 9 July 2011 21:42 (twelve years ago) link

i mean fine have a watch nbd jus dont be all I HAVE A WATCH cause be serious many many people have watches

ice cr?m, Saturday, 9 July 2011 21:43 (twelve years ago) link

watches are just really shitty phones

iatee, Saturday, 9 July 2011 21:44 (twelve years ago) link

will anyone wear a watch 50 years from now? like will it last as a style thing? I'm guessing no, but random things do stick around as cultural vestigial organs

iatee, Saturday, 9 July 2011 21:47 (twelve years ago) link

Steven Alan, a designer who carries a curated selection of vintage watches in three of his boutiques, compared it to the techno-lust for McIntosh stereos with vacuum tubes. “Having some analog component in your life is refreshing,” he said. “I’ve noticed there are a lot of people shooting with film recently. People like that return to things that are very tactile.”

feeel the film do u feel it

ice cr?m, Saturday, 9 July 2011 21:47 (twelve years ago) link

I like to touch the tubes of my stereo and feel the, uh, tube-rations

relentlessly googling hipster (Hurting 2), Saturday, 9 July 2011 21:49 (twelve years ago) link

do 12 year old kids still wear watches? do they even know what they are?

iatee, Saturday, 9 July 2011 21:50 (twelve years ago) link

The funny thing is that I actually have my grandfather's McIntosh stereo. It's in storage and in need of repair, and I need to buy new speakers for it as well. Meanwhile I've just gotten by with my computer and decent monitor speakers, especially since I live in a small place.

relentlessly googling hipster (Hurting 2), Saturday, 9 July 2011 21:51 (twelve years ago) link

I mean didn't people always like having cool old stuff from their grandparents though? I don't really think that's some reaction against Our Digitized Age.

relentlessly googling hipster (Hurting 2), Saturday, 9 July 2011 21:52 (twelve years ago) link

I used to "collect" watches. 2 or 3 years out of college living cheap and in my second job and making what seemed like real money and no expensive hobbies at the moment (one of my many breaks from synthesizers, pre-record label) I decided watches were cool. I bought a 25 dollar Waltham off eBay and a neat looking 125$ watch from some online store. Then I got as a gift a new Hamilton, which is cool. Hamilton is an old company but now is just part of the Swatch group, but they still make some of the old styles. They used to be great, now it's been diluted and modernized but they still have some of the nice old styles, you have a relatively cheap way of getting a really beautiful watch without worrying about condition. They're best known for the space-age electric watch popularized/revived in the movie Men In Black, but a lot of their styles are awesome.

Then my grandfather passed away and I was given his Rolex. It's not super old, probably from the 80s, but it's also way classy for a rolex. Simple, leather strap. I wear it on special occasions. Otherwise I wear either the Hamilton Lloyd or a Swiss Army military watch I was given as a high school graduation present.

If I'm feeling like changing things up, those two vintage watches are still around, but neither of them work really well.

dan selzer, Saturday, 9 July 2011 23:25 (twelve years ago) link

If I had a spare 500 dollars right now, I'd buy one of these:

http://www.hamiltonwatch.com/en/gents/american-classic/jazzmaster/viewmatic/H32515535

dan selzer, Saturday, 9 July 2011 23:27 (twelve years ago) link

I've got a 1962 Rolex oyster perpetual air king that my dad gave me when I graduated high school in 1992 - he had gotten it from his uncle 30 years earlier. Nothing fancy, just stainless but it never quite worked right and I haven't looked into getting fixed but this thread is making me want to look into that.

joygoat, Sunday, 10 July 2011 06:20 (twelve years ago) link

Something like that, may just need an oiling.

dan selzer, Sunday, 10 July 2011 06:34 (twelve years ago) link

fucka watch i have a phone

brooklyn's complicated relationship with bacon (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 10 July 2011 06:56 (twelve years ago) link

worst thing about phones as timepieces is when the time feature is tied to your phone having a signal. this wasn't a problem on my older phones, but this most recent one takes the clock away if it has no reception.

silly, and frankly, anti-wiki (reddening), Sunday, 10 July 2011 07:00 (twelve years ago) link

can always check the ipad

brooklyn's complicated relationship with bacon (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 10 July 2011 07:05 (twelve years ago) link

I wear watches because I want to feel futuristic

dayo, Sunday, 10 July 2011 11:30 (twelve years ago) link

I wear watches so I can know what the time is without reaching into my pocket, removing my phone and pressing a button.

dan selzer, Sunday, 10 July 2011 14:00 (twelve years ago) link

I can't really imagine being "into" them in the sense of having more than two or three,

I had a client once with a serious shopping addiction. He owned hundreds of watches. When he went out, he usually wore two or three on each arm.

Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Sunday, 10 July 2011 17:07 (twelve years ago) link

worst thing about phones as timepieces is when the time feature is tied to your phone having a signal. this wasn't a problem on my older phones, but this most recent one takes the clock away if it has no reception.

In my experience, this isn't a matter of newness. I've had one phone in 2004 that required a signal to display time, but I've had 3 or 4 other models since, none of which did.

Anyway, that set up is fucking absurd and terrible. The phone can sync time and time zones when it has a signal, but there is no reason to make time a constant feed.

Jesse, Sunday, 10 July 2011 17:09 (twelve years ago) link

lol american phones

caek, Sunday, 10 July 2011 17:12 (twelve years ago) link

Please explain.

Jesse, Sunday, 10 July 2011 17:48 (twelve years ago) link

caek finds american phones amusing.

Aimless, Sunday, 10 July 2011 17:54 (twelve years ago) link

it's like Joe Mathlete explains today's caek post.

Jesse, Sunday, 10 July 2011 18:02 (twelve years ago) link

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/10/business/summer-camps-are-facing-new-economics.html?src=recg

Ok someone is just making this shit up:

"This year, a seven-week session at Pine Forest costs $9,700, a big-ticket price for a rustic canoe-and-campfire experience. (Some camps charge even more.)

And many parents, Mr. Black says, want something more for their money. They want their children to come home with a better tennis serve, say, or a stronger backstroke, or perhaps a better technique for making chocolate soufflé"

“It is not enough anymore to just go to camp to have fun and make friends and improve independence and self-esteem,” Mr. Black says. “Some parents want actual takeaways. They want to see skills, achievements, patches and certificates.”

relentlessly googling hipster (Hurting 2), Sunday, 10 July 2011 18:47 (twelve years ago) link

“It’s like a cruise ship,” says Ms. Black, the camp’s co-director, pointing to the campers lined up at the all-you-can-eat buffet stations and salad bars.

Ms. Black has taken on the job of catering to increasing numbers of campers who have food allergies or special diets. The dining halls offer vegetarian options and gluten-free options and kosher options. Then there are special items for children who are allergic to onion powder or peaches, and for kids who won’t eat anything but potato bread or croissants or organic granola bars.

A couple of girls approach Ms. Black at the salad bar, asking her to store salad dressing they brought from home. Earlier, one mother gave Ms. Black a hunk of Parmesan cheese for safe-keeping.

relentlessly googling hipster (Hurting 2), Sunday, 10 July 2011 18:49 (twelve years ago) link

http://i56.tinypic.com/30bmcqu.jpg

Euler, Sunday, 10 July 2011 18:51 (twelve years ago) link

allergic to onion powder

Jesse, Sunday, 10 July 2011 18:56 (twelve years ago) link


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