Sufjan Stevens - Illinois

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It's been a while since I've listened to it, but some of the longer tracks seem inspired by other pop songs. I couldn't specifically place the references.

u s steel, Friday, 19 December 2008 03:18 (fifteen years ago) link

Pastiche of ... Steve Reich/minimalist composition? and... midwestern folki-ness?

yoshinorimike, Friday, 19 December 2008 10:18 (fifteen years ago) link

I don't think of it as a pastiche at all. I mean, I hear echoes of this song or this approach here and there, but listening to Illinois isn't a referential trip down memory lane. It comes across as a distinct, individual work with its own musical ideas and aesthetic vision, and while the endlessly reiterated comparisons to Steve Reich are valid in a ballpark sense, they're not of much use beyond that. I hear at least as much influence from Vince Guaraldi's Charlie Brown Christmas score, and from the music of educational films/exhibits of the 50s and 60s.

With Hoos in my long-run reaction to the record. Went through a period of intense fascination with the record when it came out, quickly falling in and out of love with almost every song, but I find I no longer have any interest in it. I'm not sure why this should be, but it actively annoys and even repels me at this point. Christmas records and the Avalanche didn't help.

Bored American Aerospace Defense Command (BORAD) (contenderizer), Friday, 19 December 2008 21:21 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah a friend of mine loaned me the xmas box set to rip and i can't stomach any of it

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 19 December 2008 21:29 (fifteen years ago) link

the christmas box really works best on the first short disc for me. (I thought the Avalanche was pretty good though, a true b-side record though)

Ludo, Friday, 19 December 2008 21:40 (fifteen years ago) link

ten months pass...

Congratulations!

http://www.pastemagazine.com/blogs/lists/2009/11/the-best-albums-of-the-decade.html?p=5

StanM, Tuesday, 3 November 2009 15:51 (fourteen years ago) link

5. Bright Eyes: I’m Wide Awake, It’s Morning

I'm okay with Illinois being No. 1, but WTF Paste Magazine?

Daniel, Esq., Tuesday, 3 November 2009 15:54 (fourteen years ago) link

but WTF Paste Magazine

I say this all the time, list or no list.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 3 November 2009 15:55 (fourteen years ago) link

wtf is paste magazine

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 3 November 2009 15:57 (fourteen years ago) link

Now in its eighth year of publication, Paste magazine has become the most celebrated entertainment magazine in the U.S.

StanM, Tuesday, 3 November 2009 16:09 (fourteen years ago) link

By whose account?

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 3 November 2009 16:09 (fourteen years ago) link

god too many available jokes

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 3 November 2009 16:11 (fourteen years ago) link

xpost:

http://www.pastemagazine.com/paste/2008/10/about-paste.html

StanM, Tuesday, 3 November 2009 16:13 (fourteen years ago) link

Well, that settles that. I guess The Avett Brothers' I and Love and You is the ninth best disc of the decade.

Daniel, Esq., Tuesday, 3 November 2009 16:20 (fourteen years ago) link

5. Bright Eyes: I’m Wide Awake, It’s Morning

Oh man, ILX hasn't even mentioned I’m Wide Awake, It’s Morning since 2005! I bought that album at the recommendation of a free alternative weekly and sold it back in shame the next day.

kingkongvsgodzilla, Tuesday, 3 November 2009 16:33 (fourteen years ago) link

is that the electron one or the alt-country one? oh wait, doesn't fucking matter.

Moreno, Tuesday, 3 November 2009 16:36 (fourteen years ago) link

Sadly, no-one will buy it from me.

And I've tried.

(xp)

Daniel, Esq., Tuesday, 3 November 2009 16:37 (fourteen years ago) link

It's the one with this memorable spoken intro:

So there was this woman and she was on an airplane, and she was flying to meet her fiancé seaming high above the largest ocean on planet earth. She was seated next to this man she had tried to start conversations, but the only thing she had really heard him say was to order his Bloody Mary. She was sitting there and she was reading this really arduous magazine article about a third world country that she couldn’t even pronounce the name of. And she was feeling very bored and despondent. And then suddenly there was this huge mechanical failure and one of the engines gave out, and they started just falling thirty-thousand feet, and the pilots on the microphone and he’s saying “I’m sorry, I’m sorry, oh my god... I'm sorry” and apologizing. And she looks at the man and says “Where are we going?” and he looks at her and he says “We’re going to a party. It’s a birthday party. It’s your birthday party. Happy birthday darling. We love you very, very, very, very, very, very, very much.” And then he starts humming this little tune, it kind of goes like this: 1, 2, 1, 2, 3, 4

kingkongvsgodzilla, Tuesday, 3 November 2009 16:38 (fourteen years ago) link

I hate that spoken-word intro so much.

Daniel, Esq., Tuesday, 3 November 2009 16:41 (fourteen years ago) link

i really dig that record still! i think? haven't played it in 4 years.

Nanobots: HOOSTEEND (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Tuesday, 3 November 2009 16:43 (fourteen years ago) link

i actually do like the one w/ emmylou singing backup vox.

Moreno, Tuesday, 3 November 2009 16:45 (fourteen years ago) link

I was actually mad at both Emmylou and Arab Strap for even associating themselves with the guy.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 3 November 2009 16:55 (fourteen years ago) link

I haven't been much in the mood for alt country/folky/America stuff for much of the decade, but it's nice to have a reference for some things I've missed, even if they wouldn't even make my top 1,000. People complain too much.

Fastnbulbous, Tuesday, 3 November 2009 17:02 (fourteen years ago) link

Name: I Love Music
Description: People Complain Too Much

M.V., Tuesday, 3 November 2009 17:05 (fourteen years ago) link

I hate that spoken-word intro so much.

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I've never heard it, but I'm suddenly imagining it being read by Laurie Anderson.

jaymc, Tuesday, 3 November 2009 17:12 (fourteen years ago) link

All of the Bright Eyes spoken word intros are horrible. The best part of him ditching that moniker is that he seems to have left those behind as well.

& other try hard shitfests (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 3 November 2009 17:16 (fourteen years ago) link

After the cover with Superman on it got recalled, I ordered a copy through a local store as a collectible. I told the girl behind the counter that it said "Come On Feel the Illinoise" on said cover, and she said, "It's pronounced Ill-in-NOY." (In her defense, I do look retarded.)

M.V., Tuesday, 3 November 2009 17:33 (fourteen years ago) link

Yeah, the spoken word intro to I'm Wide Awake is fucking annoying. But I think the record contains all of his best songs. The shit I heard from Cassadaga and most of the first s/t aren't nearly as good.

I really, really like Digital Ash too, especially "Easy/Lucky/Free."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RozuwUlX7MI

kshighway1, Tuesday, 3 November 2009 17:44 (fourteen years ago) link

Anyway, going to see this dude & co in a few hours. Will report back later.

kshighway1, Tuesday, 3 November 2009 17:45 (fourteen years ago) link

is it connor oberst & the foggy beard mountain band or w/e the fuck they're called?

Nanobots: HOOSTEEND (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Tuesday, 3 November 2009 17:48 (fourteen years ago) link

Best thing Conor Oberst ever did is his self-titled solo record. That's far better than I'm Wide Awake It's Morning, at least in my humble opinion.

kornrulez6969, Tuesday, 3 November 2009 18:56 (fourteen years ago) link

HOOS: I'm seeing the Monsters of Folk.

kshighway1, Tuesday, 3 November 2009 19:23 (fourteen years ago) link

From P4k: Sufjan Stevens Calls the 50 States Album Project "Such a Joke"

http://pitchfork.com/news/37026-sufjan-stevens-calls-the-50-states-album-project-such-a-joke/

Stevens told Paste, "The whole premise was such a joke, and I think maybe I took it too seriously. I started to feel like I was becoming a cliché of myself."

. . .and. . .

Elsewhere in the interview, Stevens expresses what sounds like a total lack of interest in the album as an art form: "I'm wondering, why do people make albums anymore when we just download? Why are songs like three or four minutes, and why are records 40 minutes long? They're based on the record, vinyl, the CD, and these forms are antiquated now. So can't an album be eternity, or can't it be five minutes? ... I no longer really have faith in the album anymore. I no longer have faith in the song."

kshighway1, Thursday, 5 November 2009 21:55 (fourteen years ago) link

Album's dead y'all.

kshighway1, Thursday, 5 November 2009 21:56 (fourteen years ago) link

Sounds like Sufy is working on a concept album ABOUT THE CONCEPT OF THE ALBUM.
Srsly tho, of all the people to be moaning about the death of the album, he seems like the least likely -- I mean, all of the attention Illinois got was because it was, like, an album, right?

tylerw, Thursday, 5 November 2009 22:00 (fourteen years ago) link

http://www.deanjackson.dj/nameanagram/index.php?n=sufjan+stevens

StanM, Thursday, 5 November 2009 22:01 (fourteen years ago) link

Just Seven Fans.

kshighway1, Thursday, 5 November 2009 22:03 (fourteen years ago) link

I don't understand how he makes the leap from noting that it's easy to release music of any length with the internet to saying "I no longer have faith in the song."

kshighway1, Thursday, 5 November 2009 22:04 (fourteen years ago) link

Maybe he listened to "Chicago" again.

kshighway1, Thursday, 5 November 2009 22:05 (fourteen years ago) link

Well somebody oughta finish.the 50 States project, even if this bedpan doesn't.

kingkongvsgodzilla, Thursday, 5 November 2009 22:09 (fourteen years ago) link

it could be like the indie WPA

peter falk's panther burns (schlump), Thursday, 5 November 2009 22:25 (fourteen years ago) link

one year passes...

http://www.flickr.com/photos/joeparker/6004383186/in/photostream

markers, Thursday, 4 August 2011 04:48 (twelve years ago) link

it was for freedom

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 4 August 2011 05:20 (twelve years ago) link

i made a lot of mistakes iirc

markers, Thursday, 4 August 2011 05:22 (twelve years ago) link

in my best behavior
i am really just like him

thistle supporter (mcoll), Thursday, 4 August 2011 05:49 (twelve years ago) link

four years pass...

10th anniversary edition. feels weird it's been almost *11 years* since this record came out. i liked carrie & lowell but find it too fucking depressing to revisit. even though i have a copy of the vinyl with a balloon sticker covering Superman, i feel tempted to cop this reissue with the new cover and the colored vinyl... oii

http://cdn4.pitchfork.com/news/62231/4be585a7.jpg

http://pitchfork-cdn.s3.amazonaws.com/content/SufjanBM1_new.jpg

flappy bird, Monday, 23 November 2015 18:32 (eight years ago) link

one year passes...

i hadn't thought about this album in quite a long time until i saw it's snuck into the all-time top 100 on RYM now, seems like there's an effort out there to canonize it. i'm ok with this

ciderpress, Saturday, 29 April 2017 01:42 (seven years ago) link

three years pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YfT-Zj-cZv8

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 7 October 2020 17:02 (three years ago) link


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