Has anyone been to Vina del Mar lately? I am taking my niece to go a wedding and I have only ever stayed in Valparaiso, but now most of my family has moved to Vina. I used to go to every winter break to visit my grandmother and that would include a trip to the beach in Vina, but I haven't been since she died probably 10 or 12 years ago.
― svend, Friday, 22 July 2011 01:58 (twelve years ago) link
So, it's all happening in Santiago. Nationwide strike and a charismatic communist student leader. Mash-notey, Green Day-soundtracked YouTube homage to her here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_V3p2MPB2UE&feature=player_embedded
― Now he's doing horse (DL), Friday, 26 August 2011 15:57 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/gallery/2011/aug/26/chile-national-strike-violence-santiago?picture=378287810
― Now he's doing horse (DL), Friday, 26 August 2011 15:58 (twelve years ago) link
Good protest gallery over at the Guardian.
Oh hey, I'll be here for 6 weeks. I have enough family there to tell me about basic stuff, so... where the Santiago record stores and Villalobos style parties at?
― ed.b, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 04:26 (nine years ago) link
For records: you need to check out this awesome labyrinth of a flea market on weekends called the Persa Bio Bio, a few blocks east of the Franklin metro station on the yellow line. It's a bit hard to describe so I'll let this link explain it: http://www.santiagomagazine.cl/living/el-persa-bio-bio-flea-market-done-right
Anyhow, ask for "Johnny's Records". Tons of vinyl. Lots of fun. If you have any curiosity or interest, you might want to ask for suggestions regarding Chilean folklore music, possibly of revolutionary inclination. There's some really beautiful, powerful stuff you could probably pick up for a good price.
Other good record shops right near Metro Los Leones, particularly Sonar Tienda and Disqueria Funtracks.
For electronic music, check out Club La Feria up in Bellavista. It's kind of the default. I couldn't tell you about where the underground clubs or parties are (I go back to Chile -where I spent my childhood- every few years, but live in Boston), but if you pm me I can connect you to a friend or cousin who would.
Hope you have a fantastic time!
― never have i been a blue calm sea (collardio gelatinous), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 07:36 (nine years ago) link
i go to chile
― jason waterfalls (gbx), Sunday, 12 July 2015 22:36 (eight years ago) link
going in september to ski volcanoes but would also appreciate any other intel on cool things to do
― jason waterfalls (gbx), Sunday, 12 July 2015 22:37 (eight years ago) link
Villaricca is a good volcano, you can't ski it but you do sled down on your arse. It's in the lake district which is gorgeous.
Also hit up Valparaiso if you can, and at the opposite end of the country the Torres Del Paine trek is stunning. Santiago's kind of nothingy.
― the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Monday, 13 July 2015 09:09 (eight years ago) link
Anyway, lovely country lovely people. Hope you're not a vegetarian.
― the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Monday, 13 July 2015 09:15 (eight years ago) link
dunno if we'll make it all the way down to Torres Del Paine (though I'd like to). valparaiso is definitely on my list, though, seems like a pretty cool town
― jason waterfalls (gbx), Monday, 13 July 2015 15:30 (eight years ago) link
i go there 2day
― jason waterfalls (gbx), Friday, 4 September 2015 17:56 (eight years ago) link
Say hello to the Andes for me. And watch out for earthquakes.
― Aimless, Friday, 4 September 2015 18:03 (eight years ago) link
have fun! it is an amazing place. eat seafood or peruvian because most of chilean food is garbage
― marcos, Friday, 4 September 2015 18:06 (eight years ago) link
yeah i was googling about chilean food and pretty much everyone says that -- which was sort of a bummer since i love to eat but sticking to a diet of peruvian and seafood sounds AOK to me
― jason waterfalls (gbx), Friday, 4 September 2015 18:17 (eight years ago) link
it is fwiw baffling to me that a country as bounteous as chile would have mediocre cuisine, esp since they produce good wines
― jason waterfalls (gbx), Friday, 4 September 2015 18:18 (eight years ago) link
yea it is weird. my very quick speculation based on spending only a few months there about 10 years ago says that:
1) there is a big fast food culture, so places serving shit like hot dogs, sandwiches, fried chicken, and french fries are widespread2) there is less of an indigenous presence compared with neighbors like peru or bolivia, or other latin american countries like mexico3) the cultural influences at play in chile (spanish, german, and some indigenous but again considerably less so than other latin american countries) are gastronomically less interesting than other countries, e.g. peru (spanish, indigenous, chinese, japanese, african), argentina (spanish, italian), brazil (portuguese, indigenous, african)
that said it has miles and miles and miles of coastline so yea the seafood will be spectacular. also the areas with stronger indigenous presences (e.g. chiloe) have incredible food
― marcos, Friday, 4 September 2015 18:29 (eight years ago) link
you can get really good seafood all over chile. I particularly enjoy merluza negra aka Patagonian toothfish aka "Chilean seabass", and all sorts of chupes aka stews that are made from different types of seafood. you can get them made out of locos - these things https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concholepas_concholepas - if you like mayonnaise (which is important for enjoying Chilean sandwiches/hot dogs) locos mayo (just locos served with mayonnaise) is pretty delicious.
so yeah, the sandwiches. I love Chilean sandwiches. well i loved, I am a vegan now, which will make my next visit to chile somewhat more difficult. homemade bread, some sort of meat, and tomatoes, chili, mayonnaise, avocado etc. steak with green beans is a chacarero. a completo is a hot dog with the works, where the meat is more like the condiment than vice versa.
ceviche is good, peruvian ceviche probably better but luckily there are plenty of peruvian restaurants.
average chilean meal at home is like a piece of meat, some potatoes and some vegetables. luckily the vegetables are very good! it's spring so artichokes will be in season i think.
the fruit cherimoya is pretty great, don't think it'll be in season, and also they cultivate them in California so you've quite probably had one before (although i never see them here in Vancouver bc despite the preponderance of Californian fruit, not even at stupid wholefoods).
empanadas are also good. September is "el mes de la patria", independence day on the 18th and the anniversary of the coup on the 11th. traditional empanada around this time is empanada de pino that contains minced beef, boiled egg, raisins, etc. might sound bad but is really tasty. you can also get fried empanadas with cheese which are dece. also drink some chicha (maize booze) out of a horn thing if the chance arises.
I really enjoy Chilean bread. pan amasado, pan hallula. nice sort of scone-like little round breads that are tasty with some butter and cheese.
little fried pastries called sopaipillas that can be savoury or sweet are tasty.
typically Chilean creole "drink" called mote con huesillo (boiled wheat husks, in a syrupy liquid with a re-hydrated dried peach) is worth trying for sure.
― you too could be called a 'Star' by the Compliance Unit (jim in glasgow), Friday, 4 September 2015 18:57 (eight years ago) link
oh yeah and pisco sour is so obvious but in the north of chile they grow these limes calles limones de pica that are kind of like key limes and are basically essential to a proper pisco sour.
― you too could be called a 'Star' by the Compliance Unit (jim in glasgow), Friday, 4 September 2015 19:02 (eight years ago) link
called not calles
mmm cherimoya
― sleeve, Friday, 4 September 2015 19:07 (eight years ago) link
chileans love them some beef too. most meals I had there involved beef and potatoes.. not awesome but not heinous
― panettone for the painfully alone (mayor jingleberries), Friday, 4 September 2015 19:10 (eight years ago) link
choripan = bbq'd chorizo on a bun.
― you too could be called a 'Star' by the Compliance Unit (jim in glasgow), Friday, 4 September 2015 19:13 (eight years ago) link
quite like chilean empanadas actually. the ones i've had didn't have raisins in them, though
i've had other latin american countries' empanadas, and i think my favourites are the ones from chile and argentina (their salteñas)
not a fan of the icing sugar on the peruvian ones
― F♯ A♯ (∞), Friday, 4 September 2015 19:26 (eight years ago) link
never been to chile but I gotta post when someone actually mentions salteñas bc they're the best, paceños forever
I love going to South America just for the fruit tbh
― droit au butt (Euler), Friday, 4 September 2015 20:29 (eight years ago) link
oh man, yeah.
pacae, lucuma (-flavoured ice cream), platano de la isla/manzano, maracuya, guanabana, granadilla, cherimoya
― F♯ A♯ (∞), Friday, 4 September 2015 20:50 (eight years ago) link
thanks guys! I am so hungry now
― jason waterfalls (gbx), Friday, 4 September 2015 20:58 (eight years ago) link
yeah in La Paz there's this bougie resto Dumbo on the Prado that makes amazing fruit drinks, w or w/o milk. I love their tumbo drink, tastes like all the best fruits all mixed together, like a liquid fruit cocktail as you get in cans in the USA
― droit au butt (Euler), Friday, 4 September 2015 21:00 (eight years ago) link
jugo de maracuya is the best, lucuma also delicious
― sleeve, Friday, 4 September 2015 21:05 (eight years ago) link
I had a pastel de choclo which was topped with caramelised sugar, like a creme brûlée. That was a really weird experience.
― suffeeciant attreebution (aldo), Saturday, 5 September 2015 16:50 (eight years ago) link
i don't think it's the same thing but i had sweet humita in peru, which was really, really good
― F♯ A♯ (∞), Sunday, 6 September 2015 01:20 (eight years ago) link
sweet humitas are really good
In Santiago we ate out at this place and my friend ordered pastel de choclo and it tasted like cigarette ash :(
― marcos, Sunday, 6 September 2015 11:17 (eight years ago) link
I think the thing in chile is that everything is really oversweetened (to the point of being like, a public concern) and yeah, fast food culture. My favourite thing was humitas with diced tomatos and avocado with some olive oil mixed in. And marraquettas, which I think are supposed to be the de facto national bread, are great. Empanadas are delicious. Chilean sandwiches are weird. Aside from seafood all the best restaurants I ate at were Peruvian, because omg authentic peruvian food.
― EDB, Sunday, 6 September 2015 15:43 (eight years ago) link
yesterday we skied a Cerro and then went to a rodeo
life is good
― jason waterfalls (gbx), Tuesday, 8 September 2015 01:18 (eight years ago) link
enjoy it, gbx!
hoping to make it out to patagonia once in this life. antarctica would be a dream come true
― F♯ A♯ (∞), Tuesday, 8 September 2015 19:58 (eight years ago) link
well that was fun
― jason waterfalls (gbx), Wednesday, 16 September 2015 17:04 (eight years ago) link
ski mountaineering is fun
https://scontent-dfw1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xta1/v/t1.0-9/11225320_10100571418140266_8222542089262893288_n.jpg?oh=c217d75deb3871bd9899013e4073b66f&oe=5666AA73
https://scontent-dfw1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfl1/v/t1.0-9/12004690_10100574997242716_2009773118661914150_n.jpg?oh=f4dc193e10db7ee5b137d085b903e8ed&oe=569AB696
https://scontent-dfw1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/12002247_10100575088010816_6881214488047904144_n.jpg?oh=fb3081191459d6e745180b9e1c39f23c&oe=566E9DA5
― jason waterfalls (gbx), Wednesday, 16 September 2015 17:08 (eight years ago) link
jealous!
what peak is that?
― F♯ A♯ (∞), Wednesday, 16 September 2015 18:53 (eight years ago) link
How high did you climb?
― Aimless, Wednesday, 16 September 2015 19:08 (eight years ago) link
awesome
― drash, Wednesday, 16 September 2015 19:09 (eight years ago) link
wowwwww
― welltris (crüt), Wednesday, 16 September 2015 19:10 (eight years ago) link
peak pictured is volcan lonquimay (first pic is from cerro morro) -- elevation is only 9400ft but we started at about 5000ft
few days earlier we made an attempt at nevados de chillan but came up a couple hundred meters
― jason waterfalls (gbx), Wednesday, 16 September 2015 19:26 (eight years ago) link
short, due largely to my lack of fitness
great descent tho. lonquimay on the other hand was bulletproof 30deg ice for virtually the whole way down. great day tho
― jason waterfalls (gbx), Wednesday, 16 September 2015 19:27 (eight years ago) link
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/eventpage/us20003k7a#general_summary
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, 16 September 2015 23:25 (eight years ago) link
yeah, they're saysing either 7.2 or 7.9.
tsunami alert
man, second time within two years
― F♯ A♯ (∞), Wednesday, 16 September 2015 23:41 (eight years ago) link
holy shit
― jason waterfalls (gbx), Thursday, 17 September 2015 00:06 (eight years ago) link
:/
― playlists of pensive swift (difficult listening hour), Thursday, 17 September 2015 00:32 (eight years ago) link
good luck, gbx. we hope you weren't on the coast or on a cliff when it happened!
― Aimless, Thursday, 17 September 2015 02:09 (eight years ago) link
I'm seeing 8.3, jeez
http://www.rt.com/news/315618-tsunami-waves-chile-earthquake/
― sleeve, Thursday, 17 September 2015 02:09 (eight years ago) link
I actually landed back in Boston about an hour after it happened -- yikes
― jason waterfalls (gbx), Thursday, 17 September 2015 02:24 (eight years ago) link
Is that a joke
― Osama bin Chinese (gyac), Thursday, 7 July 2022 17:07 (one year ago) link
Instructive to compare this to their enthusiastic support of the Pinochet coup.
https://www.economist.com/news/2008/07/03/the-end-of-allende
― Piedie Gimbel, Thursday, 7 July 2022 17:11 (one year ago) link
the editorial does not in fact deploy the word "woke" in the headline or in the text
― mark s, Thursday, 7 July 2022 17:16 (one year ago) link
I didn't want to register (Esp after that picture of a bog roll).
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 7 July 2022 17:20 (one year ago) link
It's not only a much better constitution than the precedent one (imo), but would look to be pretty dope on its own regards (imo again).
― Van Horn Street, Thursday, 7 July 2022 17:22 (one year ago) link
I assume you were joking xyzzzz__ but I guess if anyone didn’t know
At various points in its storied history, @TheEconomist opposed famine relief to Ireland, expressed sympathy for the Confederate States of America, was lukewarm about universal suffrage, opposed Britain's entry into World War I, and cheered the coup against Allende in Chile.— Dhruva Jaishankar (@d_jaishankar) April 1, 2020
― Osama bin Chinese (gyac), Thursday, 7 July 2022 17:24 (one year ago) link
Xpost
Wokeness is a clear subtext in the piece ("lol, talking about gender, being nice to animals and the right to housing??"). I guess it's the mullet approach to editorial: business at the front in print, party at the back on social media.
― Piedie Gimbel, Thursday, 7 July 2022 17:24 (one year ago) link
Or just saying the quiet bit out loud for the clicks.
― Piedie Gimbel, Thursday, 7 July 2022 17:26 (one year ago) link
Beautiful.
I don't know guys, I think the new Chilean constitution actually sounds pretty good! https://t.co/Wp8QMKTDpt pic.twitter.com/gofKzsCWGC— Gary McQuiggin (@ggaaarrryyyy) July 7, 2022
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 7 July 2022 18:42 (one year ago) link
Thinking it's too good to get passed.
I'm sure The Economist patted Sri Lanka on the back.
sri lanka has been under 16 IMF programs and none have worked— jude 🌍 (@whoajude) July 7, 2022
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 8 July 2022 08:37 (one year ago) link
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FXG6xgKVsAEKLKL?format=jpg&name=medium
sick burn
― calzino, Friday, 8 July 2022 12:38 (one year ago) link
I guess it's the mullet approach to editorial: business at the front in print, party at the back on social media.
― no one wants to twerk anymore (will), Friday, 8 July 2022 12:43 (one year ago) link
Finally done decent reporting on the constitution.
https://www.thenation.com/article/world/chile-constitution/
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 16 July 2022 18:17 (one year ago) link
*some
🚨🇨🇱 Scores of UChicago professors and alumni have written to President @gabrielboric to slam the "shameful legacy" of the Chicago Boys that collaborated with Dictator Pinochet to write the 1980 constitution that has strangled Chile https://t.co/BaywoAfgEq— David Adler (@davidrkadler) September 2, 2022
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 2 September 2022 15:32 (one year ago) link
Don't forget: 80% of Chileans voted to bury Pinochet's constitution back in October 2020. The plebiscite today will come down to the wire, no doubt. But regardless of the outcome, there is no going back. Only steps forward on the path to a new Chilean republic.— David Adler (@davidrkadler) September 4, 2022
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 4 September 2022 15:29 (one year ago) link
not quite down to the wire
― flopson, Monday, 5 September 2022 03:54 (one year ago) link
Yup, Adler is in "fight continues" mode. And the only reason we've had this vote is because of street protests.
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 5 September 2022 07:20 (one year ago) link
The proposed new Chilean constitution began the year with majority support, which then crumbled as the disinformation specialists got to work and rumors spread that it would legalize abortion up to the moment of birth, allow people's homes to be confiscated, etc. pic.twitter.com/4eDDIHqUVg— 🦀 Jon 🦀 Schwarz 🦀 (@schwarz) September 5, 2022
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 5 September 2022 08:01 (one year ago) link
The Mapuches were colonized in the Occupation of the Araucanía (1883) and the Quechuas and Aymaras in the War of the Pacific (1884). Pinochet passed terror laws to steal Mapuche lands in the 1980s. The plurinational constitution would've returned Native self-determination. 2/— New Amauta (@AmautaNew) September 5, 2022
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 5 September 2022 08:40 (one year ago) link
Like so many Chileans, I'm painfully disappointed that the majority could reject principles of equality and respect outlined in #NuevaConstitucion - principles that came out of a direct cry from the estallido https://t.co/WDjz470DdW— Naomi Larsson Piñeda (@naomilars) September 6, 2022
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 6 September 2022 13:04 (one year ago) link
https://www.telesurenglish.net/news/Constitutional-Council-in-Chile-Remains-in-the-Center-Right-20230508-0001.html
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 8 May 2023 08:21 (eleven months ago) link