Iggy Vs The Corrs

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I don't think people would have reacted any different if the spit had landed in the guys hair.

Indieholic Anonymous, Tuesday, 23 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

"Oh, what a tragedy. Poor women."

Careful there, old bean.

Venga, Tuesday, 23 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

I've already said why I'm not getting into that debate. Some of the comment above and the motives behind it are misogynist. I don't believe there's anyone here stupid enough not to know it. If there is I have no faith in my capacity to enlighten them.

That it's possible to interpret a non-sexist text in a sexist way is true but beside the point. I'm interested in entering a debate to "prove" something to someone who already knows it but is being wilfully obtuse or just plain lying. Read the thread.

Idespair, Tuesday, 23 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

I criticized IP pretty unambiguously.

sundar subramanian, Tuesday, 23 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

it's not the fact that iggy spit on a woman's hair. It's the fact that he barked and terrorized members of the corrs (''This finally caused terrified Andrea to skip hastily away while the others smiled awkwardly on pretending to know the songs by nodding gently along to Stooges classics.''). And that story was funny!!!

At the end of the day it's harmless entertainment for all! And there's nothing wrong w/that.

Julio Desouza, Tuesday, 23 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

Julio how can it be just a bit of fun and also terrorizing? i've never heard anything about Iggy that suggest his extreme stage humiliations - which he does not spare himself from btw - are particularly aimed at women. he's just bile all around! I mean "spit in the hair" - potent image - is the least of it. he was terrorizing and publicly humiliating a very well-known (it seems to me; I don't know who the Corrs are) group of VIP attendees!

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 24 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

Of course spitting isn't nice and certainly isn't big and grown up but The Corrs deserve what they got as far as I'm concerned. I'd be happy if they whole lot of them got showered.

Winkelmann, Wednesday, 24 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

Who da fuck are the Corrs? (as Iggy said, "Who The Fuck Are All You") Why so much disdain for them? Are they that bad? Or do they come off as smug? I can see hating their music (I guess - I've never heard it) but is there something about them personally? I got the part about Andrea sitting like a queen... but do they come off that way all the time?

Does America have a similarly hated group that is relatively unknown elsewhere?

Dave225, Wednesday, 24 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

tracer- the fact you haven't heard the Corrs means you might not see the funny side. The way David phrases the story, it appears that the Corrs were there just to be seen at an Iggy pop show. I wouldn't be surprised if he knew who the corrs were and he just did it on purpose just to gain a bit of publicity too. so it's funny if you look at all that.

entertainment for all= for everyone else bar the corrs obv.

Julio Desouza, Wednesday, 24 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

w-w-wait I'm PRO-v.i.p. humiliation. unless it's totally harmless and "just entertainment".

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 24 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

''w-w-wait I'm PRO-v.i.p. humiliation.

so am I.

''Julio how can it be just a bit of fun and also terrorizing?''

It was fun for the audience because the corrs were terrorized and humiliated.

''unless it's totally harmless and "just entertainment".''

Ultinately it was harmless. HA HA tarcer are you saying that it would have been bettah if Iggy and andrea FITE! (actaully i'd rather they mud wrestle). or are you just trying to screw w/ my head.

JUlio Desouza, Wednesday, 24 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

I guess what I'm saying Julio is that everyone's been focusing on this poor spat-upon woman when it sounds like Iggy was doing other equally bad things - publicly calling them out, knocking over their drinks, literally driving them from their seats. If this all adds up to "entertainment" for you, fine, but to me it sounds like something else - impulse vs. manners, for instance, or rage vs. complacence, or ugly vs. pretty - that seems more complex and maybe more meaningful than the word "fun" can contain. mark s is OTM - Iggy's greatest trick is the annihilation of pomposity through self-abasement - maybe he twigged that they were so lobotomized no amount of goading would provoke their inner freak-demon

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 24 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

''If this all adds up to "entertainment" for you, fine, but to me it sounds like something else - impulse vs. manners, for instance, or rage vs. complacence, or ugly vs. pretty - that seems more complex and maybe more meaningful than the word "fun" can contain.''

to me it really is entertaining. I don't know how you could read this much into the situation. maybe you could clarify? (it's OK if you don't).

''maybe he twigged that they were so lobotomized no amount of goading would provoke their inner freak-demon''

from the account given. First he spat at one of them at the end of one song. They didn't move and so Iggy started calling them out in the middle of the next one. Lobotomy indeed!

in 1970 he was playing to a far more 'dangerous' crowd. If he had spat at them he would've got it. nowdays he's a part of the world of entertainment and so he gets VIPs (and no confrontation).

Julio Desouza, Wednesday, 24 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

Julio I can be massively entertained by utterly un-"fun" events or performances (i.e. nasty or technically awful or severely depressing) - calling it "fun" underplays and simplifies what it sounds like Iggy did.

Pedant. Pedant. Pedant pedant pedant pedant pe-daaaaaaaaaant, Wednesday, 24 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

Bit late in here, but what the hell, an interesting read, this thread. This is a certified DrunkPost, btw.

a) Idespair (good name, but not as good as your first alleged mail address): I did not say "girls must be treated special". Spitting on people is contemptible, regardless of the sex of the person being spat on.
But you did connect the spitting -- and the cheering of the same -- with sexism, in the punch going "You sad, inadequate, sexist assholes, which, as far as I can see, had no other foundation than that it was a woman who was spat on by a man.

b) Idespair: The references to the Corr women are riddled with sexism.
As far as I can see, they are not. You clearly see things different. Could you enlighten me how the original post is "riddled with sexism"? Honestly, I'm baffled

c) Spitting on people is neither big or clever, I agree, but neither is textual analysis.

d) Just realised idespair has probably err-Left The Building-uh!, and since I didn't find the following Julio-Tracer exchange very interesting, I'll just say

e) Tracer: I don't know who the Corrs are
Dave225: I've never heard it
ILILM.

f) Sundar: sundar, who likes that big poppy Corrs single more than anything I've heard by Iggy Pop in a while
ILLLLLLILM.

OleM, Wednesday, 24 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

The Corrs are NOT INNOCENT and they SUCK as an example of feminism. Have you seen the video for their song where they take the piss out of Destiny's child as if they're BETTER, as if DC are FUNNY, as if hip hop hos are hilarious ... though i do love the corrs for being so straight ... i love them for being so christian but that's what you want if you're a christian, to be spat upon so that you know that you're standing up for what you believe in. if iggy didn't spit on them, what would they have to endure? what use would their years of warm parenting be? i'm tempted to say that iggy's a better example to girls, though i can't justify it. i guess he's a better example to girls because he's such an object. he totally degrades himself in a way that few men will - in a way that lots of women, will, though ... he's the type of guy who would have been threatened loads of times for acting 'gay.' if anyone deserves to spit on someone, surely it's him.

maryann, Thursday, 25 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

Now, if he'd just raise up and go after that stockbroking asshole Bowie. Can he spit THAT far (I'd be happy if he'd just graze Mark McEwan while trying)? Is there any reason why HEATHEN has an over-$20- list price?

Matt Riedl (veal), Thursday, 25 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

yay maryann!!!

unknown or illegal user, Friday, 26 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

"spitting is neither big nor clever but neither is textual analysis" was shit hot shit too!

unknown or illegal user, Friday, 26 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

"neither big nor clever" is such a...wankerism.

unknown or illegal user, Friday, 26 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

I can't speak for Iggy (I haven't heard anything he's done since "Candy") but Sundar is right about "Breathless" - what a fabulous song. If only all The Corrs' stuff was like that (AKA if only more bands and artists were replicating Shania Twain's best singles).

Tim, Friday, 26 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

so fucking what if they made 1 good song, or 10 good songs or 10000 good songs, it's still good that someone spat at them.

unknown or illegal user, Friday, 26 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

I think the Corrs are rubbish (even "Breathless", sorry). I think spitting in peoples hair is disgusting and rubbish. I think anonymised self-righteousness on message boards is rubbish. I've not heard of BP Fallon but he sounds rubbish too.

Tom, Friday, 26 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

BP Fallon - worked for the Beatles for ten minutes. Was some kind of hanger on for Led Zeppelin and made to look like a fool in "Hammer of the Gods". Has essentially been living on these two things ever since.

Tom, you remember liking Toasted Heretic's "Galway & Los Angeles"? BP is namechecked in the lyrics.

DV, Friday, 26 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

He is? Blimey I've listened to that song lots but never noticed.

Tom, Friday, 26 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

Corr!

Tracer Hand, Friday, 26 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

three months pass...
I was working as stage security that night. Iggy was on fire, he did indeed gob at the Corrs. As far as I'm concerned it was a really great thing to do.

The Corrs are a shame to Ireland since they performed at the Queen's 50th Jubilee Celebration.

Is Mise
Nik

Nik Warrensson, Tuesday, 12 November 2002 22:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

Spitting on people is contemptible, regardless of the sex of the person being spat on.

I'd be disappointed if I went to an Iggy Pop concert and didn't get spat upon. It's like attending a Pogues show sober.

Daniel_Rf (Daniel_Rf), Wednesday, 13 November 2002 00:44 (twenty-one years ago) link

Considering the Corrs were just there as fans, Iggy's irrational hate of them is pretty idiotic.

David Allen, Wednesday, 13 November 2002 02:39 (twenty-one years ago) link

Belated congratulations to Iggy. I'd spit in sympathy only my mouth is full of beer and I'd hate to waste it. This incident puts me in mind of some of the great spitting controversies of the past. I think my favourite has to be the rijkard/voller incident. If memory serves, rijkard took offense at herr voller's outrageously bad haircut and promptly launched a ball of fiery spit in his general direction. He was promptly sent off. As he walked off the pitch, Jimmy/Barry/John Hill/Davies/Motson assured us that the end of western civilization was near. Several world cups later, and here we still are. Hale, hearty and ready to march on Baghdad. Hurrah!

philip (philip), Wednesday, 13 November 2002 04:16 (twenty-one years ago) link

one month passes...
How could you tell things like that ? You're silly guys ! Do you think that's a way to treat people and do you really like music as you pretend ? I doubt ! I'm a 27 years old french fan of the Corrs and I'm proud of it !!! they're a very respectable family, not your case certainly... Also, I listen a lot of rock, metal (lyric metal and doom/gothic principally), classical and celtic music, so I can't understand this total childishness ! It's distressing and really stupid !!!

Doyle from France

Doyle, Thursday, 26 December 2002 17:32 (twenty-one years ago) link

How could you tell things like that ? You're silly guys ! Do you think that's a way to treat people and do you really like music as you pretend ? I doubt ! I'm a 27 years old french fan of the Corrs and I'm proud of it !!! they're a very respectable family, not your case certainly... Also, I listen a lot of rock, metal (lyric metal and doom/gothic principally), classical and celtic music, so I can't understand this total childishness ! It's distressing and really stupid !!!

Doyle from France

Doyle, Thursday, 26 December 2002 17:32 (twenty-one years ago) link

"Well, maybe it's because the pampered tosspots were sat like royalty observing the peasantry at play and were only there because their PR ppl thought they needed to be "seen" at an Iggy show that the old fecker got so rankled."

Or, could it be they were there because they happen to like (although I don't understand how anyone could) his music? Heavens no! No, they came because their popularity is dropping, and going to an Iggy Pop concert is going to help them get "hot" again. So you're saying if you go to one of the fucker's concerts, you're suddenly immensely popular? When did he get crowned king of the world!? ... No wait, on second thought, where can I get tickets!?

The Corrs should have sued him. Caroline is pregnant for God's sake!

And yes, I'm a big Corrs fan, and proud of it. So go on and leave me breathless with all your childish, idiotic comments now.

Kenne, Monday, 6 January 2003 19:43 (twenty-one years ago) link

.. It's just like when that NKOTB guy wore a Bauhaus T-Shirt.

dave225 (Dave225), Monday, 6 January 2003 19:53 (twenty-one years ago) link

Corrs freak's last sentence is my new pick-up line!

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 6 January 2003 19:56 (twenty-one years ago) link

No one will be listening to the Corrs' music in twenty years. Iggy, meanwhile, has earned his place, and should be treated with respect.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 6 January 2003 20:02 (twenty-one years ago) link

Like Proust.

mark s (mark s), Monday, 6 January 2003 20:05 (twenty-one years ago) link

Tom shouldn't resort to kneejerkery when it comes to BP Fallon. ;-+£"1

naked as sin (naked as sin), Monday, 6 January 2003 20:05 (twenty-one years ago) link

"Iggy, meanwhile, has earned his place, and should be treated with respect."

Oh, so just because you think that The Corrs will be long forgotten in twenty years time it means that you can spit on them?! Grow up.

Kenne, Monday, 6 January 2003 20:37 (twenty-one years ago) link

Everyone should be treated with respect. There's no excuse for spitting on someone when they have done nothing wrong to you.

Kenne, Monday, 6 January 2003 20:38 (twenty-one years ago) link

If the Corrs were surprised by Iggy's actions, they clearly weren't very well versed in the man's oeuvre. They got what they deserved.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 6 January 2003 20:44 (twenty-one years ago) link

no one deserves to be spat at.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Monday, 6 January 2003 20:56 (twenty-one years ago) link

"They got what they deserved."

What did they do to deserve that? Just because they went to one of his shows they deserved to be spat at?! Anyone who believes it's normal to spit at people for absolutely no reason other then hating them, is insane.

Kenne, Monday, 6 January 2003 21:01 (twenty-one years ago) link

Oh btw, this should be interesting for you people: Iggy admitted he acted like a lunatic.

Quote from an interview with Andrea from December 4th:

[quote][b]Didn't you get abuse from Iggy Pop at one of his gigs?[/b]
Unfortunately, that's true. We have the same tour manager and we were in a box and I didn't want to make a spectacle of myself by dancing all night. The last thing you want is for the audience to be distracted by someone from another band being there. It's a respect thing. He got quite frightening, swearing at us and trying to throw things at us from the stage.

[b]So you'll be buying no more Iggy albums?[/b]
No. It frightened me; I was sitting beside my pregnant sister. It was looking very scary - he has apologised but I think he was out of order. It wasn't because it was us; he would have done the same to anyone up there and I find that behaviour disgusting.[/quote]

Interview can be found here: http://www.metro.co.uk/metro/interviews/interview.html?in_page_id=8&in_interview_id=469

Kenne, Monday, 6 January 2003 21:13 (twenty-one years ago) link

Dammit, codes don't work. Ah who cares.

Kenne (Kenne), Monday, 6 January 2003 21:14 (twenty-one years ago) link

he would have done the same to anyone up there

keep telling yerself that luv, i reckon kelly osborne mightve got off a bit lighter...

stevem (blueski), Monday, 6 January 2003 21:16 (twenty-one years ago) link

why didnt The Man Corr challenge Iggy to a full on blunderbuss duel?

stevem (blueski), Monday, 6 January 2003 21:17 (twenty-one years ago) link

"It wasn't because it was us; he would have done the same to anyone up there and I find that behaviour disgusting."

Damn right it is.

Kenne (Kenne), Monday, 6 January 2003 21:17 (twenty-one years ago) link

I have no idea why Jim didn't do anything. Because he didn't want to make a bigger scene?

Kenne (Kenne), Monday, 6 January 2003 21:18 (twenty-one years ago) link

Iggy's been acting like a lunatic for the entirety of his career and there is *MORE* than enough evidence available to support it (i.e. maybe the Corr throng should've considered that before attending.) Iggy ain't Wayne Newton.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 6 January 2003 21:19 (twenty-one years ago) link

So how much longer are we going to roll this particular boulder?

Aw come on Dave, aren't you having fun?

J (Jay), Wednesday, 15 January 2003 14:38 (twenty-one years ago) link

Yeah, what's eating you Prometheus?

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Wednesday, 15 January 2003 14:51 (twenty-one years ago) link

Buzzards and Vultures.
Whats worse is they keep asking for onions and bacon to go with the liver.

Lord Custos Omega (Lord Custos Omega), Wednesday, 15 January 2003 14:56 (twenty-one years ago) link

Mix it up a bit, man... OK all the IGGY fans now should take on the position of the Corrs fans.. and all the Corrs fans should take on the position of ... (could say "head out of ASS!" but ...) Iggy fans...

dave225 (Dave225), Wednesday, 15 January 2003 14:56 (twenty-one years ago) link

I really liked how the lead singer of the Corrs fell on that table in the bar and got the stem of a martini glass stuck in her.

Oh, wait.
I guess I haven't gotten into the spirit of dave225's suggestion....

Lord Custos Omega (Lord Custos Omega), Wednesday, 15 January 2003 15:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

Was Led Zeppelin playing in the bar that night, Custos? (*sorry!*)

Clarke B., Wednesday, 15 January 2003 15:02 (twenty-one years ago) link

Y'know whats odd? The Corrs would, in theory, be a band I'd stereotypically be into. I have a real weak spot for Celts, I prefer female singers to male, I like nearly group that has a Fleetwood Mac influence...but for some reason, I just can't get into the Corrs.
Why is that?

Was Led Zeppelin playing in the bar that night, Custos? (*sorry!*)
Nope...the Cranberries opened that night.

Lord Custos Omega (Lord Custos Omega), Wednesday, 15 January 2003 15:03 (twenty-one years ago) link

"OK all the IGGY fans now should take on the position of the Corrs fans.. and all the Corrs fans should take on the position of ... Iggy fans..."

OK, I'll give it my best shot:

I think it was simply ghastly the way that horrid Pop fellow spat in poor dear Andrea's hair - didn't he even stop to think of the possible consequences?

Why she might have needed to use a different shampoo afterwards to get it out and that could have given her dry hair and split ends or anything which could have ended her entire career!

Is that better Dave?

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Wednesday, 15 January 2003 16:30 (twenty-one years ago) link

"OK, I'll give it my best shot:

I think it was simply ghastly the way that horrid Pop fellow spat in poor dear Andrea's hair - didn't he even stop to think of the possible consequences?

Why she might have needed to use a different shampoo afterwards to get it out and that could have given her dry hair and split ends or anything which could have ended her entire career!

Is that better Dave?"

You are so hilarious (for those who didn't realise, I'm being sarcastic) Everyone loves a lame ass.

Kiss Kiss, Thursday, 16 January 2003 03:35 (twenty-one years ago) link

grnkkk.. fzzz.. huh? is this shit still on?

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Thursday, 16 January 2003 03:35 (twenty-one years ago) link

yknow, this has gotten way more responses than an ordinary old "TS: Iggy Pop vs The Corrs" thread EVER would have.

Justyn Dillingham (Justyn Dillingham), Thursday, 16 January 2003 04:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

Part of the charm.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 16 January 2003 04:06 (twenty-one years ago) link

"Everyone loves a lame ass."

Goody goody - being popular is just SO important, don't you think?

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Thursday, 16 January 2003 09:51 (twenty-one years ago) link

I like nearly group that has a Fleetwood Mac influence

Is it just me, or does that Dixie Chicks cover of "Landslide" completely validate nu-country as a genre?

J (Jay), Thursday, 16 January 2003 22:46 (twenty-one years ago) link

This thread illustrates every reason why I visit ILx.

Venga, Thursday, 16 January 2003 22:59 (twenty-one years ago) link

two months pass...
So, yeah, anyway, the Corrs deserved it. Glad we're all in agreement and that's settled then.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 31 March 2003 22:15 (twenty-one years ago) link

two years pass...
bump

bump, Monday, 5 September 2005 22:48 (eighteen years ago) link

five years pass...

A decade later:

- The Dundalk "Fab Four" have become more famous for their everlasting career hiatus, than their poor, pissant "oeuvre", achieving
solely one goal: making Coldplay and Dolores O'Riordan sound like fuckin' Beethoven in comparison...

- Andrea still hasn't realized she sounds like a cat in agony, nevertheless she decides to put out not ONE, but TWO solo albums...

- Apparently too busy to save Obama, Bono didn't bother enlighting her as to the fact she still posesses the writing "auteur"
skills of a mentally challenged kid in last-stage leukemia.

- Undeterred in her grandiose endeavours, she painfully achieved the sale of merely two dozen copies of her first solo masterpeice
to her siblings' kids, which helped scoring a number #8 on the Philippines charts, due to the sheer number of the ever-expanding offspring that only Brangelina &Ben Affleck/Jennifer Garner can rival.

- With the looks of a junkie that could frighten Nicholson&Keith Richards in their prime coke roller-coaster days, she may eventually be coming to the conclusion that the Corrs beauty canon has always appealed solely to gay&senior audiences.
Thus she applied for a rock-solid life insurance by marrying a billionaire, while she struggles to reach 10000 followers on Twitter.

- Finally, Andrea says she's afraid of celebrity lifestyle. Her fucktard brother scares me way more.

- Sharon Corr, in a stroke of genius, puts out a solo album, too, apparently without Bono&Brian Eno's artistic endorsment, then
angrily blames the poor sales on the fiercy pirates who downloaded it for free, while struggling to learn how to turn a computer
on...her husband would gladly help, but couldn't, since he's too busy downloading on his own. Some serious porn. Sharon admits to smoking like a camel. Hubby actually realises she is one.

- The major failing of this second solo endeavor by a Corr is to be blamed on the Jewish-American-Masonic-Alien conspiracy, led by W. Bush&Winny the Pooh, who turned to be a major pedobear, says brother Jim (he has proof of all facts, since he dug out the secret archives of the World in the ruins ot the World Trade Center), in order to prevent camel sis to gain more followers than him&Andrea combined, on Twitter.

- Last but not least, the Corr-"Man" admits turning Goebbels by jerking way too much when spying on his sisters in the bathroom, thus having the idea behind the corporate incest ad that morphed into The Corrs.

- Two years from now, drummer Caroline either gives birth to 5 more kids, or reveals the truth of being a shemale. Like her sisters.

The Corrs, a band that will endure the test of time...

o_artsy, Thursday, 1 September 2011 23:07 (twelve years ago) link

vnp

the four HOOSmen of the STEENpacolypse (rip van wanko), Thursday, 1 September 2011 23:43 (twelve years ago) link

I prefer Iggy in this match up. I believe, because of his songs and because of the extra ability he has to drum, I would place him clearly above the CORRS on ability and overall results. On the other hand if the Corrs could quickly release three of the greatest rock records of all time, they could quickly catch up.

Hinklepicker, Friday, 2 September 2011 10:19 (twelve years ago) link

Boy I was a difficult s.o.b. on this thread. Ahh, youth.

Who are the Corrs again?

Alex in NYC, Friday, 2 September 2011 13:01 (twelve years ago) link

last time they left you breathless.

Anakin Ska Walker (AKA Skarth Vader) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 2 September 2011 13:03 (twelve years ago) link

four years pass...

great story in the OP

Cosmic Slop, Saturday, 30 July 2016 00:05 (seven years ago) link


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