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(insert obligatory "let's not go to Mono" plea)

ward: yes, the original cartoon strip was grimly feendish; the damned song mis-spelt it. that said, i actually took the name from dr grimly-fiendish in a children's book called "the founding of evil hold school" by nikolai tolstoy, which dates from 1968. now, i had this discussion with martin S on another thread and i'm pretty sure the cartoon strip predates the book, but ... ach.

i'll let someone else sort out beer plans so mono's not on the cards :) i'm on 2-10pm shifts next week so can do a late one. 10-6s the week after that. can't do fridays, saturdays or sundays for the forseeable future.

Well, funnily enough, I was out with Alex tonight and we were discussing having a pint with YOU. HERE, though probably. For a 'music listening' night, or we thought we could just take you to Planet Earth and request OMD b-sides.

will e-mail ...

are the wright sisters in glasgow? i haven't bothered to read the thread because it has london in the title. don't think i can make anything this weekend, mind.

Jed, I just opened this thread to say that I'm too tired and broke to make it along tonight - have a great birthday, hope we can meet soon (you and yr partner wld be more than welcome round at my place for an evening of food and drink and choons sometime)

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if i said i was a fat bloke w/ a beard, that wld prob cover half the attendees at the fest! I will be there tonight w/ a friend who is staying w/ me, so I will look out for the ilx delegation

I will be in Glasgow on the 17th/18th Nov, but I may not be up for drinks, as I need to see my friend and her little girl who's in Yorkhill after reacting very badly to a virus which resulted in brain damage :0( If my friend doesn't want to go out on the friday night I'd be up for some company in the pub. I'll let you know when my friend gets back to me.

I am not sure about the Clyde waterfront at all - myself and Madchen were at the SECC once and we walked over the bridge to Pacific Quay and I turned round and, apart from the university tower poking out over the top of a building behind us, I didn't feel like I was in Glasgow at all - so much has changed since I moved here 15 years ago. I am somewhat not fond of things changing.

I just thought, for someone who hasn't been in Glasgow for over a decade, it was a good way to get a sense of what has changed.

Vicky, that sounds really nasty. Hope she's OK. And yes, let us know if you are going to be free then.

Good things to do in Glasgow include the Kelvingrove, which has recently re-opened after a multi£££ refurb, the transport museum and sausage suppers (although you get better chips in Ayrshire).

I am somewhat not fond of things changing

you're on to plums in this day and age, then, aren'tcha? :p

1) Seeing the pope in Bellahouston Park. I was young and needed to piss twice an hour. It was a long walk to the park, though not an interesting one, then.

2) Getting the train there with schoolfriends to shop for clothes/records. My understanding of Glasgow was how to get from the train station to the shops and back again. The back-again bit usually involved being set upon at the station by casuals to whom I would donate clothes/records/leftover money.

3) Later, but not much later, getting the bus/train there from Edinburgh to attend certain gigs, and staying on the floors of strangers/obnoxious penpals, usually via taxi rides to districts I could not name now nor then & being sent in the right direction somehow in the morning to the bus/train station.

I know less about Glasgow, which I have visited a dozen times at least, than many places I have been to once, or never. I suppose I would like people who know what they're talking about to say what pubs, cafes, buildings and streets they actually like. I will be there, I think, during the first week of December - does anything interesting happen then, besides that?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/scotland/musicscotland/bbcsso/features/wired2.shtml

14th Nov - ACID MOTHERS TEMPLE @ Mono
17th Nov - MV+EE MEDICINE SHOW @ Captain's Rest
28th Nov - BARDO POND/JACKIE-O MOTHERFUCKER @ Mono
2nd Dec - THE SKATERS @ Captain's Rest

I like mild surprises, I suppose, and some people. sorry

my considered opinion on the "clyde waterfront" is that it is not a thing. it is also v long & expensive, a secret, overconfident, a commitment, a responsibility, by the river, out-of-date, new, crowded & crowding, disconnected & disconnecting, unrealistic & I'm not sure if/when/where it ever wouldn't be, conclusively inconclusive/inconclusively conclusive, not what I want, now, and where?

I suppose I would like people who know what they're talking about to say what pubs, cafes, buildings and streets they actually like.

i have no idea what i'm talking about. does anyone? for what it's worth: i like mono, sleazy's, the station bar and the pot still; i like the canton express, amalfi, cafe hula and that place round the corner from mono whose name escapes me; having been to london for the weekend, i like the fact that glasgow is of a size where you can actually enjoy it rather than feel you're constantly missing out.

i dunno: i've been here 10 years and i'm still exploring. best way, surely?

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