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Steve Zahn is awesome, but you're on to something with Jeremy Piven.

Michael Pitt kind of reminds me of a junkie Chris Klein.

― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Monday, 18 July 2005 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Anyway, I'm very fickle and I've listed my favorite films on here countless times, but this week, I like Underground, Sweet Smell Of Success, Shoot The Piano Player, the films of Patrick Keiller, Wisconsin Death Trip, Songs From The Second Floor, Ariel, Rear Window, The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly, Bus 174, Cure, Bad Day At Black Rock, Stardust Memories, Bad Education, etc.

Least favorite: 8mm, Four Rooms, Lost In Translation, Crash (the Paul Haggis one), Sin City, Rules Of Attraction...

― Adam In Real Life (nordicskilla), Monday, 18 July 2005 01:11 (eighteen years ago) link

I need some new films to hate, really.

― Adam In Real Life (nordicskilla), Monday, 18 July 2005 01:13 (eighteen years ago) link

I really like ALL the Harry Palmer films too, especially Billion Dollar Brain.

― Adam In Real Life (nordicskilla), Monday, 18 July 2005 01:15 (eighteen years ago) link

another of my favorites is distant voices, still lives.

oh, me too!

― Adam In Real Life (nordicskilla), Monday, 18 July 2005 01:16 (eighteen years ago) link

adam u listed underground 1st, shd i starve and sniff it out? i ws doing some reading today and im thru fussing abt fellini. i didnt know rules ws so objectionable i probably wasnt even that uncomfortable elbowing n tryna smile at them jumping on the bed?

what abt new york minute guys? ok let me search palmer

― 007 (thoia), Monday, 18 July 2005 01:26 (eighteen years ago) link

I like Underground, but a lot of people disagree with me about a lot of things...

― Adam In Real Life (nordicskilla), Monday, 18 July 2005 01:28 (eighteen years ago) link

underground is really great. if i was asked to list my 20 favorite movies, underground would definitely be there.

― t0dd swiss (immobilisme), Monday, 18 July 2005 01:32 (eighteen years ago) link

does it have a scene where everything is quiet and you almost crack a smile and lean forward and back and a cut and your, ah this heartbroken world and then you still have 2 more hours of conceit and accordian piling on and your thankyou thankyou, ill try that too?

ive been hopint to watch it for awhile. and the gallo one

― 007 (thoia), Monday, 18 July 2005 01:34 (eighteen years ago) link

i watched Children Underground last night. It was good but perhaps the most brutally upsetting thing i have ever seen.
I try to get 'Underground' but my dvd rental place says it's not out on dvd in the uk yet. i wish they'd hurry up.

― jeffrey (johnson), Monday, 18 July 2005 01:40 (eighteen years ago) link

hahahaha!

― Adam In Real Life (nordicskilla), Monday, 18 July 2005 01:42 (eighteen years ago) link

yes!

― Adam In Real Life (nordicskilla), Monday, 18 July 2005 01:43 (eighteen years ago) link

great!

― 007 (thoia), Monday, 18 July 2005 01:46 (eighteen years ago) link

There can never be too much accordian. Sorry. It's just one of those thingd.

― Adam In Real Life (nordicskilla), Monday, 18 July 2005 01:48 (eighteen years ago) link

God, I can't stop laughing at that post. Well done.

― Adam In Real Life (nordicskilla), Monday, 18 July 2005 01:49 (eighteen years ago) link

the films of Patrick Keiller

I just rented Robinson in Space and I'm really excited to watch it.

I want to see Anthony's lists!

― C0L1N B... (C0L1N B...), Monday, 18 July 2005 01:51 (eighteen years ago) link

Anthony started a thread somewhere about his top 100. It was great.

Robinson In Space is amazing, but I prefer London. They're both essential.

― Adam In Real Life (nordicskilla), Monday, 18 July 2005 01:52 (eighteen years ago) link

my top 100 films

― Adam In Real Life (nordicskilla), Monday, 18 July 2005 02:03 (eighteen years ago) link

barry lyndon! god like i sd mccabe and mrs miller is so fucking funny, maybe later tonight warren

― 007 (thoia), Monday, 18 July 2005 02:08 (eighteen years ago) link

my own personal top 101...
The 39 Steps
A Face In the Crowd
Apocalypse Now
Ashes and Diamonds
Audition
Back to the Future
Before the Rain
Below
Bend of the River
The Big Sleep
Black Christmas
Body Double
The Boxer
Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Garcia
Bringing Out the Dead
Bullitt
Carlito's Way
Casino
Chungking Express
Come and See
Contempt
Dawn of the Dead
Deep Red
Drunken Master II
Eyes Wide Shut
Fallen Angels
Fireworks
The Fog of War
Get Carter
God of Cookery
The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly
The Good Thief
Goodfellas
The Great Escape
Happiness of the Katakuris
Heat
The Hidden
I Walked With A Zombie
Infernal Affairs
Irma Vep
Jaws
JFK
Joint Security Area
The Killer
Kiss Me Deadly
La Dolce Vita
Lancelot du Lac
Land Without Bread
The Last Detail
Le Doulos
Light Sleeper
Lilya-4-Ever
The Long Goodbye
The Lord of the Rings
Lost Highway
The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance
Meet the Feebles
The Million Dollar Hotel
The Mission (2000)
New Jack City
The Night of the Hunter
Night and the City
O Brother Where Art Thou?
Oktober
Once Upon a Time In China
Once Upon a Time In the West
One, Two, Three
Our Hospitality
Out of the Past
Paris Blues
Pat Garrett and Billy the Kid
Pierrot le Fou
Prince of the City
Repo Man
The Right Stuff
The Roaring Twenties
The Rules of the Game
Rushmore
The Searchers
The Seven Samurai
Sexy Beast
Shadow of a Doubt
Shaun of the Dead
Sherlock Jr.
Soldier of Orange
Stalker
Starship Troopers
Sweet Smell of Success
Taxi Driver
Terror Firmer
The Thing
The Third Man
Time Out
To Live and Die In L.A.
Too Many Ways To Be Number One
Vivre Sa Vie
Waco: The Rules of Engagement
The Wages of Fear
White Heat
The Wild Bunch
Young Frankenstein

― Gear! (Gear!), Monday, 18 July 2005 02:48 (eighteen years ago) link

1. The Lady Eve (Preston Sturges, 1941)
2. The Shop Around The Corner (Ernst Lubitsch, 1940)
3. Imitation Of Life (Douglas Sirk, 1959)
4. The Third Man (Carol Reed, 1949)
5. Notorious (Alfred Hitchock, 1946)
6. Pather Panchali, Aparajito, The World of Apu (Satyajit Ray, 1955, 1957,1959)
7. The Rules Of The Game (Jean Renoir, 1939)
8. Mon oncle d'Amérique (Alain Resnais, 1980)
9. Spies (Fritz Lang, 1928)
10. Simon of the Desert (Louis Buñuel,1965)

― k/l (Ken L), Monday, 18 July 2005 13:29 (eighteen years ago) link

i thought this thread was going to be akin to "jaymc tells you what celebrity you look like" only amateurist was offering advice instead of comparing you to fancy famous folk.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 18 July 2005 14:05 (eighteen years ago) link

Man, I went to all the trouble with the tags and the dates, and misspelled Hitchcock. And Luis Buñuel.

― k/l (Ken L), Monday, 18 July 2005 14:07 (eighteen years ago) link

I'd like for Am to offer advise to everyone based on their submitted lists of films.

― Eric H. (Eric H.), Monday, 18 July 2005 16:02 (eighteen years ago) link

Like he's going to give a recommendation of what else they should watch? Or draw conclusions about their character or tell their fortune?

This has turned out to be the most amicable film thread ever.

― k/l (Ken L), Monday, 18 July 2005 16:37 (eighteen years ago) link

i think am should just guide us in this crazy thing we call "life."

― kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 18 July 2005 17:03 (eighteen years ago) link

Let's go amateur!

― k/l (Ken L), Monday, 18 July 2005 17:04 (eighteen years ago) link

I saw "Dancer" as sort of a stand-off between Bjork and von Trier. The good parts were all hers -- the songs, mostly. The obnoxious plot and nausea-inducing camerawork were all his.

But I forgave a lot of his sins after Dogville, which is my favorite movie of the last couple years.

― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Monday, 18 July 2005 20:01 (eighteen years ago) link

WTF RETCON!

― Daniel_Rf (Daniel_Rf), Monday, 18 July 2005 20:06 (eighteen years ago) link

Let's go amateur!
-- k/l (lauter...), July 18th, 2005.

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huh? what advice do you want?
-- Amateur(ist) (amateurist@gmail.com), June 27th, 2001.

Did Amateur!st turn back time just to show what awesome advice-giving power he wields???

― Daniel_Rf (Daniel_Rf), Monday, 18 July 2005 20:08 (eighteen years ago) link

No specific advice. Just fun advice.

― Eric H. (Eric H.), Monday, 18 July 2005 20:29 (eighteen years ago) link

I don't know why my post was cut-and-pasted up there without the previous one. Makes no sense at all.

― Kovacs Laszlo (Ken L), Monday, 18 July 2005 20:30 (eighteen years ago) link

Uhm, just to show that, exactly after your post, it suddenly became June 27th, 2001. But I've just realised that this happened on every ILX thread, so yeah, the joke's pretty lame.

― Daniel_Rf (Daniel_Rf), Monday, 18 July 2005 20:33 (eighteen years ago) link

To serve as context: your post, just before Amateurist's "2001" post, is marked 2005.

er xpost

― sleep (sleep), Monday, 18 July 2005 20:34 (eighteen years ago) link

Apparently it is I who have the power to turn back the clock. Let's go, Daniel_Rf!

― Kovacs Laszlo (Ken L), Monday, 18 July 2005 20:36 (eighteen years ago) link

Let's go, sleep!

― Kovacs Laszlo (Ken L), Monday, 18 July 2005 20:36 (eighteen years ago) link

I can't do this alone.

― Kovacs Laszlo (Ken L), Monday, 18 July 2005 20:36 (eighteen years ago) link

I think you and Amateur!st have to work in tandem. Like the Wonder Twins.

― Daniel_Rf (Daniel_Rf), Monday, 18 July 2005 20:38 (eighteen years ago) link

Shucks, I'm not a Hungarian time-traveler, I'm just a guy who spends way too much time on the internet.

― k/l (Ken L), Monday, 18 July 2005 20:43 (eighteen years ago) link

kl i see the only post 65 movie you listed is resnais american uncle. whats that like? i like the thot of a em rigorous movie from ol 1980

am what made u angry abt dancer in the dark? is there a thread? isnt there a truly lovable scene of dancing spinning and ageing on courtroom tables? fucking w the bailiff?

― 007 (thoia), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 02:39 (eighteen years ago) link

also jocelyn i like how youve got mail and life as beautiful cn just be grouped together as somehow bad in the same way

― 007 (thoia), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 02:41 (eighteen years ago) link

People imagine themselves living their lives like characters in movies do, but in reality they are more like rats in cages acting on impulses and struggling for survival. The main story is intercut with shots of the old-time movie stars the characters identify with and with shots of lab rats and with a real-life scientist explaining the behavior of the rats and presumably, the humans. Thus, when his department/branch is merged with another and Gerard Depardieu is forced to fight for a his job against his opposite number a la David Brent, we see him smoldering, we see how Jean Gabin would have slugged the other guy, and we see a lab rat submitting to the more dominant rat that has just been introduced into his cage. It is a beautiful movie.

― k/l (Ken L), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 13:36 (eighteen years ago) link

But NRQ listed it too, so I wonder what he has to say.

― k/l (Ken L), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 13:37 (eighteen years ago) link

it's a real curveball of a movie. basically the 'science' inserts make you think of all life interactions as one of 4 categories (i forget what). but anyway you *can* just obey this, but in fact it opens out and you think, hell no, this isn't just 'nature' we're observing but human society. and then you think it's a tree -- but it's really a wall. fin.

― N_RQ, Tuesday, 19 July 2005 13:42 (eighteen years ago) link

Mon Oncle d'Amerique was my fav movie of 1980, at least in 1980.

Whoever slammed Pvt Idaho for "Keanu presence" is senseless. The film wouldn't work if he didn't have presence.

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 15:11 (eighteen years ago) link

dancing in the dark was like some kind of empathy-squeezing torture chamber

― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 16:07 (eighteen years ago) link

that's me, i'm senseless. it's probably the best thing he's done but really i'm not going to entertain any keanu revisionism. tho i do like seeing it written as "Pvt Idaho," like it's a Pvt Benjamin sequel starring jon heder or something.

and i kind of like miss congeniality.

― demonlolver (gcannon), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 16:29 (eighteen years ago) link

Actually, Miss Congeliality was not as bad as that movie with CubaGooding Jr. where he's stuck on a boat with all these Swedish women but it turns out it's a gay boat tour because all gay jokes are funny See?

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 16:47 (eighteen years ago) link

"dancing in the dark was like some kind of empathy-squeezing torture chamber"

Amateurist would you say that the common thread of the three films you hate most is that they cynically attempt to provoke certain reactions/force certain emotions out of you?

I've seen this criticism applied to all three. I haven't seen "In The Company of Men" but I quite like the other two.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 01:58 (eighteen years ago) link

I don't see how that (cynical provocation to emotion) applies to Elephant.

I finally saw MOPI and don't get the love (where it exists). The hopped-up straight-from-Shakespeare scenes were fantastic, but nothing else clicked.

― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 02:07 (eighteen years ago) link

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