The least worst of Nu-Metal

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linkin park is consistently superb

...if you're deaf.

Linkin Park: Defend them. I dare you.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 30 July 2004 02:33 (nineteen years ago) link

Any nu-metal other than them and SOAD is pretty much worthless.

And I agree with this too! But I also think Linkin Park are a not-bad pop band.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 30 July 2004 02:33 (nineteen years ago) link

SOAD have a couple of good songs, Linkin Park too. Papa Roach are going to age well as a silly retro artifact.

My name is Kenny (My name is Kenny), Friday, 30 July 2004 02:35 (nineteen years ago) link

to artiste: saying Crazy Town>Deftones = *raspberry*

AaronHz (AaronHz), Friday, 30 July 2004 02:37 (nineteen years ago) link

abegrand - Killswitch Engage is totally not nu-metal. They sound more like Lamb of God, and Lamb of God is PURE AMERICAN METAL the way GOD intended!!!

what don't you like the new Otep? I haven't checked it out yet - it's been on a pile of stuff I haven't gotten to for a few days. The last one - especially "Blood Pigs" - was pretty great. Plus, Wifey and I really wanna have a threesome with her.

roger adultery (roger adultery), Friday, 30 July 2004 02:37 (nineteen years ago) link

i've actually never heard any other crazy town songs i don't think!!

artiste, Friday, 30 July 2004 02:45 (nineteen years ago) link

but i bet they are better than the deftones

artiste, Friday, 30 July 2004 02:46 (nineteen years ago) link

If you pretend that Mad Capsule Markets are a nu-metal band then they would be the best nu-metal band.

scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 30 July 2004 02:53 (nineteen years ago) link

Surely Tool don't count as nu, neither Soulfly - as they're so connected to Sepultura in my mind.

Can't say i like any of these, except maybe SOAD's Chop Suey coz at least they sounded like they were doing something different, & maybe the odd Deftones track.

piers, Friday, 30 July 2004 03:07 (nineteen years ago) link

I like disturbed's "The Sickness".

fk, Friday, 30 July 2004 03:25 (nineteen years ago) link

"Duality" - Slipknot
"Toxicity" - System of a Down
"My Own Summer (Shove It)" - The Deftones (if it counts)
"Bring Me to Life" - Evanescense
"Faint" - Linkin Park
"Just Like You" - Three Days Grace
"Got the Life" - KoRn

Those are all pretty good, some even great.

The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Friday, 30 July 2004 03:36 (nineteen years ago) link

Lostprophets "Last Train Home"!!!!!!!!

Al (sitcom), Friday, 30 July 2004 03:59 (nineteen years ago) link

lostprophets are like emu-metal

artdamages (artdamages), Friday, 30 July 2004 04:53 (nineteen years ago) link

"Butterfly"'s one of the worst songs I've ever heard. Deftones/Slipknot have their moments, can't remember what they are tho.

Andrew Blood Thames (Andrew Thames), Friday, 30 July 2004 05:09 (nineteen years ago) link

some earlier Korn stuff.
System of a Down, definately.
Slipknot.
Mushroomhead.
Otep.
early limp bizkit stuff.

yeah, who cares.

Andrzej B. (Andrzej B.), Friday, 30 July 2004 05:38 (nineteen years ago) link

abegrand - Killswitch Engage is totally not nu-metal.

what don't you like the new Otep?

Yeah, you're right about Killswitch.

The new Otep sounds great, but it just grates after 40 minutes, it's an emptyheaded Slipknot clone, with none of the melodies. Otep claims to be a big poet, but all it amounts to is adolescent whining, and badly done at that. Hearing, "I hate my life!" over and over just gets tiring after a while. A tale of sound and fury, etc. etc. etc.

("Warhead" is an okay tune, though)

abegrand, Friday, 30 July 2004 07:00 (nineteen years ago) link

well put. But that's what makes her cuddly, I think. "I use my fists to empower my hate!" - I wanna give her a big kiss on the cheek. Probably not the reaction she's looking for, but...

Seriously, though, "Blood Pigs" knocked me out. I was a little disappointed with all the 'rapping' on their last record - is there less this time? (I should just go listen to the damn thing!)

roger adultery (roger adultery), Friday, 30 July 2004 07:03 (nineteen years ago) link

There is a good band trapped inside of Linkin Park that will never, ever get out.

Colin Meeder (Mert), Friday, 30 July 2004 09:18 (nineteen years ago) link

...and I think that that's a shame.

Colin Meeder (Mert), Friday, 30 July 2004 09:19 (nineteen years ago) link

does the rasmus "in the shadows" count? single of the year, no less.

weasel diesel (K1l14n), Friday, 30 July 2004 09:34 (nineteen years ago) link

"But I also think Linkin Park are a not-bad pop band."

Yeah, it's probably better to appreciate them as "pop" rather than as a hard rock band.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Friday, 30 July 2004 10:28 (nineteen years ago) link

Stonesour rate a mention surely? They're pretty good, though I couldn't name one of their songs.

the music mole (colin s barrow), Friday, 30 July 2004 10:37 (nineteen years ago) link

The Rasmus? Single of the year? How I laughed.

Wooden (Wooden), Friday, 30 July 2004 10:49 (nineteen years ago) link

The RZA is actually on that SOAD cover, isn't he?

briania (briania), Friday, 30 July 2004 11:20 (nineteen years ago) link

alright some of these been covered already but fuck it (and while "Butterfly" is glorious its not really nu-metal. It's just a rap song).

This isn't a top ten ever, it's not even necessarily my favorite songs by these artists, but if you don't like any of these songs, wtf are you doing on this thread. you don't believe in a least worst of nu-metal, you're just being a troll.

Evanescence - "Bring Me To Life"
Linkin Park - "Faint"
Limp Bizkit - "Nookie"
Deftones - "Minerva"
System Of A Down - "Chop Suey"
Disturbed - "Down With The Sickness"
Limp Bizkit - "No Sex"
Korn - "Freak On A Leash"
Deftones - "Change (In The House Of Flies)
Linkin Park - "In The End"

CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Friday, 30 July 2004 13:49 (nineteen years ago) link

Do we consider Incubus nu-metal? They have quite a few songs I wouldn't kick out of bed for eating crackers. I'll just pick "2010" out of the bunch, for posterity's sake, but they really are pretty great.

nickalicious (nickalicious), Friday, 30 July 2004 13:55 (nineteen years ago) link

The first five tracks off Slipknot's debut disc
Anything off the Deftones' White Pony, which is fucking brilliant start to finish
Most of Disturbed's Believe, which is much, much better than the debut
There are at least three or four good songs on Static X's Wisconsin Death Trip, but I can't remember the titles right now

Phil Freeman (Phil Freeman), Friday, 30 July 2004 15:28 (nineteen years ago) link

"Science" by incubus is a pretty good album, but they turned to the dark side after that.

Wooden (Wooden), Friday, 30 July 2004 15:30 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm confused as to why the seemingly arbitrary decision was made to create a 3 CD set. Based on this thread so far, it sounds like there's a very strong, enjoyable single "Least Worst of Nu-Metal," but it also sounds like stretching it into 3 discs is gonna be tough. Even by the standards of the folks here who have the most interest in the genre.

Personally, I'm only gonna second what's already been said: "Chop Suey" is a good song, and there's a good bit of Deftones stuff out there worth inclusion.

martin m. (mushrush), Friday, 30 July 2004 15:58 (nineteen years ago) link

"Youth of the Nation" - POD
"Butterfly", "Revolving Door" - Crazytown
Static X (first two albums anyway)
Apex Theory (first album and EP)

probably some other stuff I've mentioned on other threads

chuck, Friday, 30 July 2004 16:04 (nineteen years ago) link

The first two hit singles by Adema (Jonathon Davis's brother's band) are also better than anything by Korn. And Kittie (esp on their live EP) aren't absolutely horrible at all.

chuck, Friday, 30 July 2004 16:07 (nineteen years ago) link

And Scott is OTM about Mad Capsule Markets (though I personally might like Apex Theory slightly more)

chuck, Friday, 30 July 2004 16:11 (nineteen years ago) link

(Also Cyclefly, if they count.)

chuck, Friday, 30 July 2004 16:12 (nineteen years ago) link

dang, totally forgot about "Youth Of The Nation"

CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Friday, 30 July 2004 16:13 (nineteen years ago) link

Okay, I'm having no luck whatsoever finding this SOAD "Shame On a Nigga" cover, and it's on the verge of ruining my day.

nickalicious (nickalicious), Friday, 30 July 2004 16:18 (nineteen years ago) link

its on slsk and it's not good

roger adultery (roger adultery), Friday, 30 July 2004 16:25 (nineteen years ago) link

Lil Wyte ft. Josey Scott of Saliva - Homicidal, Suicidal
Three 6 Mafia ft. Josey Scott of Saliva - Mosh Pit
Papa Roach - Last Resort

scg, Friday, 30 July 2004 16:30 (nineteen years ago) link

-I'm confused as to why the seemingly arbitrary decision was made to create a 3 CD set

I always do 3 cd sets. I made a blues 3cd set, a hip hop 3cd set, two 80's 3 cd set, 10 indie rock 3 cds set, a Jandek 3cd set, a Prince 3 cd set... This is totally arbitrary.

- Based on this thread so far, it sounds like there's a very strong, enjoyable single "Least Worst of Nu-Metal," but it also sounds like stretching it into 3 discs is gonna be tough. Even by the standards of the folks here who have the most interest in the genre.

Yes, you are right. I will try to do a 2 cd set.


- Personally, I'm only gonna second what's already been said: "Chop Suey" is a good song, and there's a good bit of Deftones stuff out there worth inclusion.

Thank You and thanks to all of you.

Elvis is Dead, Friday, 30 July 2004 22:08 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm sort of inspired to make one of my own mixes like this now.

If ever a genre could be distilled to one disc, it was nu-metal.

The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Saturday, 31 July 2004 04:22 (nineteen years ago) link

good deftones includes

Feitciera
Digital Bath
Street Carp
Teenage
Knife prty
Change (In The House Of Flies)
Pink Maggit
Hexagram
Minerva
When Girls Telephone Boys
Battle-Axe
Moana

CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Saturday, 31 July 2004 04:25 (nineteen years ago) link

Sysytem of a Down is a GREAT fucking band. Calling them nu-metal is an insult. I also like Slipknot -- "Duality" is a great single. Beyond that, most of it is shit -- tho Linkin Park piques my intellectual interest.

Chris O'Connor (Chris O'Connor), Saturday, 31 July 2004 04:30 (nineteen years ago) link

So what's the verdict on Incubus as nu-metal?

Probably not, right?

The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Saturday, 31 July 2004 04:34 (nineteen years ago) link

I wanna put like five Linkin Park songs on this thing. Maybe I could get away with two.

The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Saturday, 31 July 2004 04:35 (nineteen years ago) link

And I agree with this too! But I also think Linkin Park are a not-bad pop band.

it's their depeche mode-isms, innit? (not to mention the deftones' mbv-isms/swervedriver-isms/shoegazer tendencies)

Eisbär (llamasfur), Saturday, 31 July 2004 04:44 (nineteen years ago) link

the latter features of the deftones being why they're the ONLY nu-metal band* that gets MY seal of approval, of course!

(* = unless tool counts as nu-metal. but even after all this time, that's still an open question, yes?)

Eisbär (llamasfur), Saturday, 31 July 2004 04:46 (nineteen years ago) link

OK, here's what I came up with. One-disc--there's just not enough really strong material for two.

Bring Me to Life: The Least Worst of Nu-Metal:

1. "Bring Me to Life" - Evanescence
2. "Du Hast" - Rammstein
3. "Just Like You" - Three Days Grace
4. "Duality" - Slipknot
5. "The Reason" - Hoobastank
6. "Got the Life" - KoRn
7. "Alive" - P.O.D.
8. "In the End" - Linkin Park
9. "Toxicity" - System of a Down
10. "Push It" - Static-X
12. "Blue Monday" - Orgy
13. "My Own Summer (Shove It)" - The Deftones
14. "Broken" - Seether f/ Amy Lee
15. "Last Train Home" - Lostprophets

The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Saturday, 31 July 2004 17:09 (nineteen years ago) link

It's too bad "Crawling" has such a grating, obvious chorus, or it'd be much better than "In The End". "Broken" is on par with Creed. "Last Train Home" is pretty great, I love how after the first "chorus" ends it hits you with AN EVEN BIGGER CHORUS, and Lostprophets' first album was definitely nu-metal, but I'm not sure about that song.

Sansai, Saturday, 31 July 2004 23:07 (nineteen years ago) link

seconded: "Du Hast" and "Push It"

Curt1s St3ph3ns, Saturday, 31 July 2004 23:18 (nineteen years ago) link

System of a Down are not nu-metal at all! They are,uh, erm... pop spazcore?

Rammstein's Mutter is extremely underappreciated in the States.

joseph cotten (joseph cotten), Sunday, 1 August 2004 00:07 (nineteen years ago) link

"The Reason" is not nu-metal in the least!!!! Also, it is the most grating single of the year, Josh Groban notwithstanding. Replace with Papa Roach - "Last Resort," Dr. Bill.

Mike Ouderkirk (Mike Ouderkirk), Sunday, 1 August 2004 02:37 (nineteen years ago) link

I think Ned likes Linkin Park because they've got tons and tons of Depeche Mode in them! (which is why I like them too)

Dan Perry as well.

Break Stuff by Limp Bizkit is pretty hard to deny.

And yet it can be done.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 22:07 (nineteen years ago) link

minerva is definitely the best nu-metal track.

purple patch (electricsound), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 22:07 (nineteen years ago) link

Break Stuff by Limp Bizkit is pretty hard to deny.

And yet it can be done.

What?! Not by humans! You must be like a half-mage alien elf or some shit, Ned!

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 22:12 (nineteen years ago) link

YAY!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 22:13 (nineteen years ago) link

Break Stuff by Limp Bizkit is pretty hard to deny.

And yet it can be done.

-- Ned Raggett (ne...), August 3rd, 2004.

It's about the he said/she said bullshit.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 22:22 (nineteen years ago) link

I found this cool list of past Ozzfest line-ups in the U.S. Here are a few of the bands that have played over the years:

Cellophane
Slo Burn
downset
Drain sth
Snot
Kilgore
Ultraspank
Monster Voodoo Machine
Flashpoint
Pushmonkey
Apartment 26
Taproot
Slaves On Dope
Shuvel
Primer 55
Deadlights
Union Underground
Systematic
Godhead
Nonpoint
Spineshank
No One
Pressure 4-5
Pure Rubbish
Beautiful Creatures
Soil
Flaw
3rd Strike
Pulse Ultra
Glassjaw
Switched
Grade 8
Twisted Method
Unloco
Depswa
Motograter
Memento


YIKES!!! I think I've only heard Spineshank and Drain sth on that list. And I think I got an Apartment 26 album in the mail once, but I don't remember if I even listened to it.

scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 11:46 (nineteen years ago) link

This year's line-up is the best since the first year though. But, boy oh boy, they had 5 years in the nu-metal wilderness.

scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 11:49 (nineteen years ago) link

Does "Mash Out Posse" count as nu-metal?

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 11:50 (nineteen years ago) link

one month passes...
Taproot, my lord theres a blast from the past.

Glassjaw were always good in at the drive in overly agitated kinda way and noone can deny the pure rawk (!) fury that is Soils "Halo".

Damian McCoy (dmc), Thursday, 23 September 2004 11:47 (nineteen years ago) link

one year passes...
I can;t believe no one mentioned "My December" by Linkin Park! such a great ballad for teenagers

P26091983, Saturday, 31 December 2005 12:03 (eighteen years ago) link

>Beautiful Creatures<

Great band, led by Joe Leste', ex of Bang Tango, I totally recommend both albums. Velvet Revolver wish they were half this good. But this ain't nu-metal

xhuxk, Saturday, 31 December 2005 12:58 (eighteen years ago) link

Also they do very good ballads for teenagers.

xhuxk, Saturday, 31 December 2005 12:59 (eighteen years ago) link

good morning, chuck!

scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 31 December 2005 13:05 (eighteen years ago) link

guten morgen to you too scott!!!! it is the last morning of the year and I am drinking coffee and i just cleaned the bathroom and took out the bottle recylcables! soon i will pay bills!!

xhuxk, Saturday, 31 December 2005 13:52 (eighteen years ago) link

that sounds exciting! i am watching the 2 boys. maria is asleep.

scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 31 December 2005 13:56 (eighteen years ago) link

Korn and Limp Bizkit have both done some half decent cover versions.

And that's about it.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Sunday, 1 January 2006 03:14 (eighteen years ago) link

eight years pass...

new crazy town is ... a thing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHqNJxfMBF8

maura, Sunday, 21 December 2014 21:05 (nine years ago) link

i couldn't find a crazy town thread so i figured i'd resurrect this one

maura, Sunday, 21 December 2014 21:05 (nine years ago) link

finally a nu-metal thread I haven't posted in yet

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Sunday, 21 December 2014 21:39 (nine years ago) link

If we're talking about the least worst of nu metal again, I was always partial to this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJC5WWPCtGY

"Say something for the record - tell the people what you feel"

"Fuck the record... and fuck the people"

B-Boy Bualadh Bos (ecuador_with_a_c), Monday, 22 December 2014 11:40 (nine years ago) link

one month passes...

i have 'diary of jane' by breaking benjamin stuck in my head today after hearing it on the radio recently and i kinda dig it, though it might just be stockholm syndrome. it's almost like...bubblegum nu-metal? idk

ciderpress, Thursday, 29 January 2015 16:11 (nine years ago) link

one year passes...

decided to listen to some samples of bands listed upthread that I never listened to after seeing a band that sounded like Korn shitting in Mushroomhead's mouth last night, followed by a pure Soulfly clone so ridiculous that they even have "fly" in their name!

Snot = percussive and funky, not ear grating. wouldn't voluntarily listen, but not bad
Kilgore = Godsmack trying to do doom, pass
Ultraspank = zzzzzZZZzzzzZZZzz
Primer 55 = Guy Fieri rapping over shitty g-funk 'metal'

ok back to thrash it is

Neanderthal, Friday, 3 June 2016 00:19 (seven years ago) link


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