Lynyrd Skynyrd: Classic or Dud?

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Richard Wood Johnson, you're a dick.

rogermexico., Monday, 13 August 2007 18:21 (sixteen years ago) link

the user name would certainly suggest so.

classic all day long, esp. first two lp's.

S: "Working For MCA" and "Gimme Back My Bullets" and whole lot of others.

will, Monday, 13 August 2007 18:33 (sixteen years ago) link

Richard Wood Johnson, you're a dick.

Eh. I'd rather be a dick than like SKYNYRD, DUUUDDE!!

Richard Wood Johnson, Monday, 13 August 2007 18:50 (sixteen years ago) link

the vision of drunk, toothless rednecks with confederate flags plastered all over their rusting pick-up trucks, air guitaring to "Gimme Three Steps" in white trash bars has cemented my hatred for this sort of country-fried nonsense forever. and i'm not just knocking the band for their audience, either. their music is pure, unadulterated bullshit cooked down to its purest form and smeared all over the last few vestiges of passable artistic taste that still exist in this world.

Richard Wood Johnson, Monday, 13 August 2007 18:59 (sixteen years ago) link

BAN RICHARD WOOD JOHNSON

Dom Passantino, Monday, 13 August 2007 19:01 (sixteen years ago) link

Dud. I know there's not much point in posting negative opinion here, but really people - two words: "Free bird". RWJ OTM.

Soukesian, Monday, 13 August 2007 20:05 (sixteen years ago) link

DOM OTM

If Timi Yuro would be still alive, most other singers could shut up, Tuesday, 14 August 2007 01:28 (sixteen years ago) link

Ban people who don't like Skynyrd. That's the kind of legislated sense of aesthetics that ILM really needs.

Richard Wood Johnson, Tuesday, 14 August 2007 01:58 (sixteen years ago) link

Ban people who don't like Skynyrd.

co-sign

people who don't like Skynyrd are one aesthetic step from not liking the Allmans, which in a just world would be a capital offense

J0hn D., Tuesday, 14 August 2007 02:02 (sixteen years ago) link

Really, people, two words: THAT SMELL

If Timi Yuro would be still alive, most other singers could shut up, Tuesday, 14 August 2007 02:04 (sixteen years ago) link

one year passes...

I really am digging 'Simple Man' lately.

Chelvis, Tuesday, 26 August 2008 01:23 (fifteen years ago) link

*puts 'Ban people who don't like Skynyrd' on a t-shirt*

Kerm, Tuesday, 26 August 2008 01:38 (fifteen years ago) link

five months pass...

RIP Billy Powell.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 28 January 2009 20:57 (fifteen years ago) link

RIP indeed

double bird strike (gabbneb), Wednesday, 28 January 2009 21:03 (fifteen years ago) link

play it pretty for atlanta

mookieproof, Wednesday, 28 January 2009 21:09 (fifteen years ago) link

people who don't like Skynyrd are one aesthetic step from not liking the Allmans, which in a just world would be a capital offense

Gee, I guess that means we should make alcohol illegal too, since people who drink are one step away from smoking pot.

Pantheism F. Mohair (res), Thursday, 29 January 2009 01:16 (fifteen years ago) link

We should make pot legal because it makes the Allmans sound better.

james k polk, Thursday, 29 January 2009 01:27 (fifteen years ago) link

res with the penetrating insight into a joke post

J0hn D., Thursday, 29 January 2009 01:51 (fifteen years ago) link

a year-old joke post

also, james polk otm

J0hn D., Thursday, 29 January 2009 01:55 (fifteen years ago) link

res with the penetrating insight into a joke post

you got whooshed dude

Pantheism F. Mohair (res), Thursday, 29 January 2009 02:03 (fifteen years ago) link

got any more awesome wikipedia links res

J0hn D., Thursday, 29 January 2009 02:13 (fifteen years ago) link

i found this one yesterday.

Pantheism F. Mohair (res), Thursday, 29 January 2009 02:33 (fifteen years ago) link

Poor guy just got off the Skynyrd criuse:

http://www.simplemancruise.com/smc2009/lineup.php

bendy, Thursday, 29 January 2009 03:49 (fifteen years ago) link

Rest in peace, Billy.

If Timi Yuro would be still alive, most other singers could shut up, Thursday, 29 January 2009 07:16 (fifteen years ago) link

eight months pass...

Looks like many of the posters here have never listened to a LS album all the way through. How novel. Four of their five original studio albums are great. I was just listening to Street Survivors. It's actually relatively delicate and pretty.

Fastnbulbous, Thursday, 8 October 2009 05:15 (fourteen years ago) link

there's some crazy talk dissing the allman bros upthread.

nicky lo-fi, Thursday, 8 October 2009 05:52 (fourteen years ago) link

'sweet home alabama' might be the most popular pop/rock song of all-time, and for good reason, it's fuckin perfect.

nicky lo-fi, Thursday, 8 October 2009 05:54 (fourteen years ago) link

Classic. Some clueless (and classist and elitist) posts on this thread, especially the late "Richard Wood Johnson", who truly is a dick.

Bill Magill, Thursday, 8 October 2009 13:53 (fourteen years ago) link

Street Survivors': so so so CLASSIC. I really dig the alternate verison of You Got That Right on the re-release.

But in general...killer lyrics, awesome vocals, that band was TIGHT AS HELL...how can they be anything BUT classic.

VegemiteGrrrl, Thursday, 8 October 2009 15:19 (fourteen years ago) link

I thought this might get bumped to talk about the new album. Haven't heard it, but saw it in the store and was mildly, mildly curious. Judging by the genesis of the album title, God & Guns, they don't like Barack.

& other try hard shitfests (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 8 October 2009 16:54 (fourteen years ago) link

I will admit that I have a mental block when it comes to incarnations of Skynyrd post-crash. It just doesn't sound right without Ronnie singing. Plus all that feuding and infighting afterwards really turned me off.

VegemiteGrrrl, Thursday, 8 October 2009 16:58 (fourteen years ago) link

Ultra classic when Ronnie was alive. The reunited version bad in about 1000 ways.

kornrulez6969, Thursday, 8 October 2009 17:00 (fourteen years ago) link

New Lynyrd Skynyrd thing in stores = flypaper for idiots.

Gorge, Thursday, 8 October 2009 17:09 (fourteen years ago) link

"Whiskey botttle, brand new car, oak tree you're in my way"...talk about a great song opener.

VegemiteGrrrl, Thursday, 8 October 2009 17:13 (fourteen years ago) link

Yeah, I don't count post-plane crash Skynryd.

Bill Magill, Thursday, 8 October 2009 17:16 (fourteen years ago) link

xpost: new record is called "God & Guns". Yeesh

bendy, Thursday, 8 October 2009 17:23 (fourteen years ago) link

Yeah, kind of dumb. The real Skynrd at least had some subtlety to them, ie the anti-gun "Saturday Night Special"

Bill Magill, Thursday, 8 October 2009 17:44 (fourteen years ago) link

"Working for MCA" totally beat both "EMI" and "Complete Control" for classic major label songs about major labels not being classic. And wasn't "Gimme Back My Bullets" actually about not landing on the Billboard charts? And "That Smell" was anti-drug in the darkest way possible. So: so classic. Also, actually one of the few acts whose "Essential" collection I play as much as the albums proper. I find it makes the album tracks pop out even more when I play the albums.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 8 October 2009 18:32 (fourteen years ago) link

Yes, their Essential is fantastic.

& other try hard shitfests (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 8 October 2009 19:27 (fourteen years ago) link

I really like Platinum & Gold compilation (is that what it's called)?

All the eye-rolling over 'Sweet Home' and 'Free Bird' kind of bothers me. I know they've been played to death, and that they've become signifiers for something pretty far from what the band represented at the time...but it bums me out that everyone hears the cliche, rather than the actual songs.

VegemiteGrrrl, Thursday, 8 October 2009 21:20 (fourteen years ago) link

Nah, the Essential is a two-disc collection that is relatively recent (okay, maybe turn of the century-ish?). Speaking of "Freebird", while waiting to pick up a prescription at CVS last night the store was playing some horrible adult-contemporary medley that went into the chorus from "Freebird" out of a Richard Marx song. It was pretty bizarre.

& other try hard shitfests (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 8 October 2009 21:24 (fourteen years ago) link

Does anyone have the Muscle Shoals Album? Recommended? Yes no? Want to expand my Skynyrd collection a little, and that one looked interesting to me.

VegemiteGrrrl, Thursday, 8 October 2009 21:25 (fourteen years ago) link

xpost: "signifiers for something pretty far from what the band represented at the time"

OK, I'm a hater, but I'm genuinely curious, so tell me - what did the band represent at the time?

Soukesian, Thursday, 8 October 2009 21:27 (fourteen years ago) link

Yeah, I don't count post-plane crash Skynryd.

feed them to the (Linden Ave) lions (will), Thursday, 8 October 2009 21:30 (fourteen years ago) link

^^ is otm

feed them to the (Linden Ave) lions (will), Thursday, 8 October 2009 21:30 (fourteen years ago) link

the store was playing some horrible adult-contemporary medley that went into the chorus from "Freebird" out of a Richard Marx song

You sure that wasn't the legendary Will to Power medley of "Freebird" and "Baby I Love Your Way"?

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 8 October 2009 21:30 (fourteen years ago) link

As in:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3lxDwfMaQsc

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 8 October 2009 21:31 (fourteen years ago) link

That was indeed it! It was a Richard Marx song before the medley then.

& other try hard shitfests (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 8 October 2009 21:33 (fourteen years ago) link

^^hello 6th grade slow dance

feed them to the (Linden Ave) lions (will), Thursday, 8 October 2009 21:33 (fourteen years ago) link

I had honestly never heard that before in my life.

& other try hard shitfests (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 8 October 2009 21:37 (fourteen years ago) link

Gary and Ted were very different people. Opposite ends of the spectrum.

trying to think of higher praise that you could give someone

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 8 March 2023 14:37 (one year ago) link

the preeminent prog country band

I was caught off guard this morning by the mellotron on "Tuesday's Gone" and "Free Bird" before remembering this scientific fact

Brad C., Wednesday, 8 March 2023 17:36 (one year ago) link

captain beyond might like a word but i get it

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 8 March 2023 18:56 (one year ago) link

That respect thing says so much, don’t want to mess with it but summarizing or paraphrasing etc.

Gene Markey’s Goin’ Off (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 9 March 2023 06:15 (one year ago) link

But=by

Gene Markey’s Goin’ Off (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 9 March 2023 06:38 (one year ago) link

one year passes...

second helping was released 50 years ago today

mookieproof, Monday, 15 April 2024 22:22 (two weeks ago) link

turn it up

mookieproof, Monday, 15 April 2024 22:24 (two weeks ago) link

I'm *still* not sure of the politics of "Sweet Home Alabama." At the least it's probably the most maddeningly ambiguous/misunderstood/complicated song of its ilk aside from "Okie from Muskogee," with which is shares a lot of DNA. Even the band was inconsistent when talking about it.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 15 April 2024 22:44 (two weeks ago) link

Skynyrd are playing with ZZ Top not too far from me, but the line-up now is basically Ricky Medlocke, Ronnie Van Zant's brother and a bunch of random dudes. How they get to go out playing under the name is beyond me.

the scouse that roared (Matt #2), Monday, 15 April 2024 23:02 (two weeks ago) link

“SWA” is a good sophomore year high school talent show entry, just be prepared that the bass player will be the only one in the band who remembers the F-E-D turnaround

calstars, Monday, 15 April 2024 23:07 (two weeks ago) link

Ronnie was in his twenties when he wrote that and came from a very backward place. That song is well beyond him and his politics now. Anyway saying the governor’s true in that situation is pretty reprehensible.

“All I can do is write about it” is his best defense of the south.

Heez, Tuesday, 16 April 2024 02:02 (two weeks ago) link

Disney Skynyrd ride when

calstars, Tuesday, 16 April 2024 02:24 (two weeks ago) link

yeah 'watergate does not bother me/does your conscience bother you' is pretty straightforward

mookieproof, Tuesday, 16 April 2024 02:26 (two weeks ago) link

but the Swampers

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 03:12 (two weeks ago) link

“Now watergate has got the swompers”

calstars, Tuesday, 16 April 2024 03:16 (two weeks ago) link

“Now we all did what conscience do”

calstars, Tuesday, 16 April 2024 03:17 (two weeks ago) link

I've got to admit, as a simple man, that I've never had any idea what "watergate does not bother me/does your conscience bother you (tell the truth)" was meant to convey.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 18 April 2024 14:42 (two weeks ago) link

I think he’s questioning whether the average citizen should feel guilty about the behavior of their elected representatives.

o. nate, Thursday, 18 April 2024 14:57 (two weeks ago) link

Or is it kind of the same idea as Randy Newman's "Rednecks"? Like, you get all righteous about misbehaving politicians, but maybe you secretly harbor similar beliefs? ("Tell the truth")

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 18 April 2024 17:19 (two weeks ago) link

You can't read too hard into these lyrics, folks.

https://i.imgur.com/wvB32jh.jpeg

pplains, Thursday, 18 April 2024 18:40 (two weeks ago) link

Or is it kind of the same idea as Randy Newman's "Rednecks"? Like, you get all righteous about misbehaving politicians, but maybe you secretly harbor similar beliefs? ("Tell the truth")

― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, April 18, 2024 12:19 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

different in that Randy gets to say the n-word cuzza he's such a Smart Guy

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 18 April 2024 18:49 (two weeks ago) link


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