yeah i liked that article
i mean any style section piece that features someone who makes $12/hour and can barely afford food doesnt really belong in this thread imo
― :: (Lamp), Thursday, 1 September 2011 19:48 (twelve years ago) link
yeah, FedEx bought out Kinko's, so you can't say you graduated w/honors in English and are now assistant manager at Kinko's.
― sarahel, Thursday, 1 September 2011 19:48 (twelve years ago) link
a freelance gig writing for Elfster.com, a “secret Santa” Web site.
what the shit
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 1 September 2011 19:49 (twelve years ago) link
and it kinda sucks, but you can use the copiers at work to make copies of your zine and fliers for your friends' bands shows
― sarahel, Thursday, 1 September 2011 19:49 (twelve years ago) link
i knew s4r4h in that article in college! she is nice.
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 1 September 2011 19:50 (twelve years ago) link
“I have a college education that I feel like I am wasting by being there,” he added. “I am supposed to do something interesting, something with my brain.” For a while, Mr. Shore ran LongevityDrugstore.com, an online drug retailer that he started, but it went nowhere. To stretch his pay check, he made beans and rice at home and drove slowly to save gas. Eventually he quit, got work as a dock hand and is now thinking of becoming a doctor.
― elmo argonaut, Thursday, 1 September 2011 19:51 (twelve years ago) link
wtf @ driving slowly to save gas
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 1 September 2011 19:51 (twelve years ago) link
yeah lamp otm
usually these articles are like 'Ryan couldn't even land his dream job at Goldman and has been forced to suffer the indignities of working at a small consulting firm'.
this one is basically normal middle class kids
― iatee, Thursday, 1 September 2011 19:52 (twelve years ago) link
But when his parents started charging him $500 a month for rent
what assholes!
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 1 September 2011 19:52 (twelve years ago) link
guys I QUOTED the funny two paragraphs for you
― max, Thursday, 1 September 2011 19:54 (twelve years ago) link
i guess it is funny to pay $125,000 dollars for your undergrad expecting to get a job in publishing, in 2007
― :: (Lamp), Thursday, 1 September 2011 19:55 (twelve years ago) link
thanks max, now i know that Elfster exists.
― sarahel, Thursday, 1 September 2011 19:55 (twelve years ago) link
“I am supposed to do something interesting, something with my brain.”
i have no sympathy for this dude
― elmo argonaut, Thursday, 1 September 2011 20:03 (twelve years ago) link
why? that seems like a reasonable expectation in a lot of ways although i can see reading 'interesting' as a little stronger
― :: (Lamp), Thursday, 1 September 2011 20:08 (twelve years ago) link
idk, it's not that i don't sympathize with the difficulty getting a career off the ground, because i feel like i fall squarely in this 'trend' -- idk, it just seems like there is a difference between feeling frustrated and undervalued at your job, and thinking that the only jobs that you *can* get are somehow beneath you.
― elmo argonaut, Thursday, 1 September 2011 20:15 (twelve years ago) link
"i am destined for important things! i will become a doctor!"
― elmo argonaut, Thursday, 1 September 2011 20:17 (twelve years ago) link
I agree with you entirely. In fact, I kinda feel like working a low-paying menial job after college/grad school is a (shitty) rite of passage.
― remy bean, Thursday, 1 September 2011 20:20 (twelve years ago) link
otm
― sarahel, Thursday, 1 September 2011 20:20 (twelve years ago) link
and i think it's not that he "wants to do something interesting" "with his brain," it's that he expects to be paid handsomely for it
― elmo argonaut, Thursday, 1 September 2011 20:23 (twelve years ago) link
ha, it's pretty easy to do interesting things with one's brain and not get paid for them at all.
― sarahel, Thursday, 1 September 2011 20:24 (twelve years ago) link
Elfster was really the only quiddity part of that article but wow, so quiddy
― Reddit Me Bro (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 1 September 2011 20:25 (twelve years ago) link
I mean the whole "I went to a good school, I deserve a good job" is just meritocratic bullshit filtered through the lens of the academy. Correct reading of that passage above: I was sufficiently privileged as a child and thus admitted to a 'top' school that my parents paid for /was be-scholarshipped/attended on a good loan package, and now I should get a good job unlike those schmucks who didn't go to a college/went to a state school or community college/spent time in the military/took time off because I am a Hard Working Kid Who Deserves More even though I have done very little but attend a liberal arts program and maybe work summers serving ice cream on a pier.
― remy bean, Thursday, 1 September 2011 20:26 (twelve years ago) link
dude it was on a pieryou don't know their pain
― Reddit Me Bro (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 1 September 2011 20:27 (twelve years ago) link
my personal big boob crisis
― Birth Control is Sinful in the ILE Marriages (Latham Green), Thursday, 1 September 2011 20:27 (twelve years ago) link
Isn't it Louis C.K. who says there's very little in the world worse than a 20- year old complaining about the kind of job 20 year olds take?
― remy bean, Thursday, 1 September 2011 20:28 (twelve years ago) link
dude can't find consulting jobs out of biz schoolworks in a call center, bailsstarts a retail drug site, failstakes a job as a dockworker, dreams of becoming a doctor
i mean, in another economic climate, this dude might have hopped on a biz career path and sailed away, but as it is, i can't help but feel like this is just a dude whose ambitions do not match his work ethic
― elmo argonaut, Thursday, 1 September 2011 20:29 (twelve years ago) link
his first mistake was going to biz school
― remy bean, Thursday, 1 September 2011 20:30 (twelve years ago) link
I don’t know why someone wouldn’t want their job to go really well. And I think usually it’s because they’re twenty. Because they’re twenty-year-old douchebags. I’m prejudiced against twenty year olds. Because, nineteen you’re still your parents’ fault. Twenty, you’re technically an adult, but you still haven’t done anything.Twenty year olds at their jobs are always like, “This job sucks.” Yes, that’s why we gave it to you! Because you’re twenty. You haven’t done anything. You’ve just been sucking up resources, you’ve just been taking food and love and education and iPods, and taking it and judging—“I like that,” and “Oh, that sucks.” You’re like a big orange on a tree that’s rotting, and the tree is like, “Get off!” and you’re hanging on, “I don’t want to go.” If you’re twenty, you definitely have never done a thing for anybody.Louis C.K. on Leno 3/23/11
Twenty year olds at their jobs are always like, “This job sucks.” Yes, that’s why we gave it to you! Because you’re twenty. You haven’t done anything. You’ve just been sucking up resources, you’ve just been taking food and love and education and iPods, and taking it and judging—“I like that,” and “Oh, that sucks.” You’re like a big orange on a tree that’s rotting, and the tree is like, “Get off!” and you’re hanging on, “I don’t want to go.” If you’re twenty, you definitely have never done a thing for anybody.
Louis C.K. on Leno 3/23/11
"after my job failed as an economics analyst I took off my top and went crazy in N'orleans "
― Birth Control is Sinful in the ILE Marriages (Latham Green), Thursday, 1 September 2011 20:31 (twelve years ago) link
NYT's getting really good at even making people on poverty incomes sound like terrible ruling class:
Sure, her partner, Michael Fleming, is an artist and craftsman who tosses around phrases like “humble aesthetic” and speaks of the way driftwood “resonates,” but he can also toss around a hammer. He built their magnificent oak-and-maple bed, which is weathered silver and white. Of course, if he gets a buyer he will sell it.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/01/garden/in-maine-gifts-from-the-sea-and-the-landfill.html
― I DIED, Thursday, 1 September 2011 20:34 (twelve years ago) link
I hate these people.
― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Thursday, 1 September 2011 20:38 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/01/fashion/fertility-is-a-matter-of-age-no-matter-how-young-a-woman-looks.html?ref=fashion&pagewanted=all
so apparently some people figured out that looking young doesn't equal being young
― peter in montreal, Thursday, 1 September 2011 20:41 (twelve years ago) link
Those people are just funny.
― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Thursday, 1 September 2011 20:57 (twelve years ago) link
STAB STAB STABBY
For so many reasons in that article.
― brb recalibrating my check engine light (Laurel), Thursday, 1 September 2011 20:59 (twelve years ago) link
“I’ve spent hours of my life and a lot of money making sure I was healthy, and that my hair was shiny, my teeth were white and my complexion clear,” said Ms. Foss, a magazine editor in New York City.
So when it came to conceiving a child with her husband, a marketing executive, Ms. Foss wasn’t at all worried. After all, she noted, those same traits of youth and beauty “are all the hallmarks of fertility.”
I MEAN WHAT. What a horrible person she sounds like.
― brb recalibrating my check engine light (Laurel), Thursday, 1 September 2011 21:00 (twelve years ago) link
I have more stuff to s
Isn't it Louis C.K. who says there's very little in the world worse than a 20- year old complaining about the kind of job 20 year olds take? --remy bean
had never read the analysis of professor of economics ck he seems v interesting, however I would say there is pretty good evidence that today's job market is a little bit different from the job market when he was 20. the large majority of ameicans have never lived in an era w/ job prospects as bad as today's. /things are different/
― iatee, Thursday, 1 September 2011 21:05 (twelve years ago) link
that just sounds like an immeasurably stupid thing to believe?
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 1 September 2011 21:06 (twelve years ago) link
that's an xp to laurel
well, if you're a dog breeder, she's not so far off.
― Reddit Me Bro (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 1 September 2011 21:06 (twelve years ago) link
"if i get my teeth whitened and my hair done i will totally have a genetically better chance of making a baby"
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 1 September 2011 21:07 (twelve years ago) link
seems as if she confused genetic fertility with... guys wanting to have sex w/ you bcuz you're pretty
I mean the whole "I went to a good school, I deserve a good job" is just meritocratic bullshit filtered through the lens of the academy. Correct reading of that passage above: I was sufficiently privileged as a child and thus admitted to a 'top' school that my parents paid for /was be-scholarshipped/attended on a good loan package, and now I should get a good job unlike those schmucks who didn't go to a college/went to a state school or community college/spent time in the military/took time off because I am a Hard Working Kid Who Deserves More even though I have done very little but attend a liberal arts program and maybe work summers serving ice cream on a pier. --remy bean
this is also bullshit btw
― iatee, Thursday, 1 September 2011 21:07 (twelve years ago) link
why
― remy bean, Thursday, 1 September 2011 21:10 (twelve years ago) link
Ding ding ding (sorry if you hate that)
But this is just another totally gross, insidious example of pushing a very shallow kind of desirability as if it is other things that it's not. Like fertility, or character, or anything except "based on nothing but your appearance/photograph, more strangers are likely to want to fuck you". It also disinherits the UN"desirable" from the ranks of people who are "allowed" to have the traits in question -- fertility, in this case.
― brb recalibrating my check engine light (Laurel), Thursday, 1 September 2011 21:14 (twelve years ago) link
And there's just so much class grossness in that package that my brain is pushing the whole article away and refusing to ponder it much more than that.
― brb recalibrating my check engine light (Laurel), Thursday, 1 September 2011 21:16 (twelve years ago) link
that young lady seems typical of those who moved here to live inside Sex & The City.
I think Louis CK will be Dennis Miller in ten years or less.
― incredibly middlebrow (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 1 September 2011 21:17 (twelve years ago) link
what the fuck kind of gypsy curse is that
― Reddit Me Bro (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 1 September 2011 21:19 (twelve years ago) link
haha
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 1 September 2011 21:21 (twelve years ago) link
why --remy bean
I have to get on a train, will respond later
― iatee, Thursday, 1 September 2011 21:33 (twelve years ago) link
k
― remy bean, Thursday, 1 September 2011 21:39 (twelve years ago) link