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Bye! Have fun! Drink beer out of comedy over-sized beer glasses!

and eat enormous würsts! (würsten? oh, bugger the grammar.)

are the wright sisters in glasgow? i haven't bothered to read the thread because it has london in the title. don't think i can make anything this weekend, mind.

I don't think we're invited :-/

hey! hey! we're in glasgow! it IS raining. as you all know.

Ward, it's highly unlikely i will go to the subclub tonight. got stuff to do early tomorrow.

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Jed, I just opened this thread to say that I'm too tired and broke to make it along tonight - have a great birthday, hope we can meet soon (you and yr partner wld be more than welcome round at my place for an evening of food and drink and choons sometime)

happy birthday, jed!!

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Hello, Glasgow. Can any locals recommend any hotels that would be good for a weekend break in the city? Or, being local, do you have no clue about which hotels are better than others? (after all, why would you use them?)

What sort of price range are you after, and what do you expect of a hotel? I mean, do you want luxury or do you not actually care as long as there is a roof over your head? Or somewhere inbetween? Also, city centre?

Um, somewhere with parking, fairly mid-range - decent enough that you wouldn't mind staying in bed all day if you felt that way.

Ward, thanks for the offer - will take you up on it! in the meantime... instal? see you there but i've no idea how i will recognise you.

hey jed, i will recognise YOU! also, cozen shld have my mobe no

if i said i was a fat bloke w/ a beard, that wld prob cover half the attendees at the fest! I will be there tonight w/ a friend who is staying w/ me, so I will look out for the ilx delegation

ok, see you in front of the 40 metre strings.

slightly overegged IMO.

What are the good things to do in Glasgow & the good things to see? I will be going soon, for the first time in maybe thirteen years, and what happened then does not count for much because what I did & saw, then, was violence.

Come and see us! Go to a pub! Seriously, what sort of stuff are you into? Go for a walk along the Clyde heading west from the city centre because that's pretty much changed beyond all recognition with new bridges and buildings and flats and the armadillo being there and most of the old buildings gone now.

I was looking at stuff about the Graden Festival the other day. Somehow I had completely erased it from my memory. Of course, I refused to go at the time because it wasn't indie enough, or something.

I went to the garden festival

the new "clyde waterfront" is not a good thing

why isn't it? (not that i have any particular feelings about the matter. i'm just old-fashioned and like such statements to be backed up by a modicum of argument and opinion.)

I've got quite a few photos of the garden festival, my parents got passes. I should scan them.

I will be in Glasgow on the 17th/18th Nov, but I may not be up for drinks, as I need to see my friend and her little girl who's in Yorkhill after reacting very badly to a virus which resulted in brain damage :0( If my friend doesn't want to go out on the friday night I'd be up for some company in the pub. I'll let you know when my friend gets back to me.

I went to the Garden Festival too, I have some photos of me posing with PC Murdoch in the Oor Wullie garden which will absolutely not be getting scanned anywhere.

I am not sure about the Clyde waterfront at all - myself and Madchen were at the SECC once and we walked over the bridge to Pacific Quay and I turned round and, apart from the university tower poking out over the top of a building behind us, I didn't feel like I was in Glasgow at all - so much has changed since I moved here 15 years ago. I am somewhat not fond of things changing.

I just thought, for someone who hasn't been in Glasgow for over a decade, it was a good way to get a sense of what has changed.

I'd be annoyed if I worked down there, in the BBC or something. I bet they have a choice of canteen or canteen for lunch.

Vicky, that sounds really nasty. Hope she's OK. And yes, let us know if you are going to be free then.

Good things to do in Glasgow include the Kelvingrove, which has recently re-opened after a multi£££ refurb, the transport museum and sausage suppers (although you get better chips in Ayrshire).

I don't think you're old-fashioned, grimly fiendish

The Clyde waterfront is a good thing.

RJG, i would very much like to hear yr considered architectural opinion on the clyde waterfront!

I am somewhat not fond of things changing

you're on to plums in this day and age, then, aren'tcha? :p

grimly, we need beer (or cider) sometime soon.

I am going to Glasgow and I have not been there for a long time but even when I was there before I was not really in Glasgow. My visits to Glasgow can be summarised thus:

1) Seeing the pope in Bellahouston Park. I was young and needed to piss twice an hour. It was a long walk to the park, though not an interesting one, then.

2) Getting the train there with schoolfriends to shop for clothes/records. My understanding of Glasgow was how to get from the train station to the shops and back again. The back-again bit usually involved being set upon at the station by casuals to whom I would donate clothes/records/leftover money.

3) Later, but not much later, getting the bus/train there from Edinburgh to attend certain gigs, and staying on the floors of strangers/obnoxious penpals, usually via taxi rides to districts I could not name now nor then & being sent in the right direction somehow in the morning to the bus/train station.

I know less about Glasgow, which I have visited a dozen times at least, than many places I have been to once, or never. I suppose I would like people who know what they're talking about to say what pubs, cafes, buildings and streets they actually like. I will be there, I think, during the first week of December - does anything interesting happen then, besides that?

I am going to this on Saturday, it is free:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/scotland/musicscotland/bbcsso/features/wired2.shtml

Also:

14th Nov - ACID MOTHERS TEMPLE @ Mono
17th Nov - MV+EE MEDICINE SHOW @ Captain's Rest
28th Nov - BARDO POND/JACKIE-O MOTHERFUCKER @ Mono
2nd Dec - THE SKATERS @ Captain's Rest

don't really think I have any particular likes, w/ glasgow

I like mild surprises, I suppose, and some people. sorry

my considered opinion on the "clyde waterfront" is that it is not a thing. it is also v long & expensive, a secret, overconfident, a commitment, a responsibility, by the river, out-of-date, new, crowded & crowding, disconnected & disconnecting, unrealistic & I'm not sure if/when/where it ever wouldn't be, conclusively inconclusive/inconclusively conclusive, not what I want, now, and where?

i like that. i think you're probably right about it too. thank you.

I suppose I would like people who know what they're talking about to say what pubs, cafes, buildings and streets they actually like.

i have no idea what i'm talking about. does anyone? for what it's worth: i like mono, sleazy's, the station bar and the pot still; i like the canton express, amalfi, cafe hula and that place round the corner from mono whose name escapes me; having been to london for the weekend, i like the fact that glasgow is of a size where you can actually enjoy it rather than feel you're constantly missing out.

i dunno: i've been here 10 years and i'm still exploring. best way, surely?

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I do not like Mono, but I tolerate it because I like people who do. I also like the Station Bar, even though I have only been there once. I like the Alpen Lodge, WestBeer, the Three Judges, The Universal, the 500 Club, The Burrell Collection, St Mungo's Museum, GoMA, the necropolis, a lot of random buildings in the city centre, a lot of the surrounding countryside.

I like the Bon Accord, Tapa and the Chinese megarestaurants on Saracen Street and New City Road.

OOh, how was the one on Saracen Street?

I like glasgow|!!!

It was great - we went last night. Not such a fancy-arse menu as Cowcaddens (no vinegary chickens feet) but what they did, they did well. And I had two of the best dim sum evah!

Most of the things people like in Glasgow appear to be new.

I remember the name Bon Accord but I do not remember where it is. I don't think it was very indie.

The waterfront area was always a bit disconnected/disconnecting though, except when it were all shipyards (I imagine). For instance, if you go to a concert there, you have to walk across a huge empty car park afterwards, which feels very exposed, in contrats to the carefully choreographed pseudo-intimacy of the concert experience.

I hope your friend's little girl is OK, Vicky.

I would like to work for the BBC there. Surely the whole point of working for the BBC to have access to the BBC canteen. I have reason to believe it is a source of hilarity.

Have they vacated the place by the Botanics?

I find the necropolis quite disconnecting too. In fact, a lot of places in Glasgow are disconnecting, or were.

yeah, they are out of the botanics one, pretty much. flats, probably

the SECC or whatever they call it is really rubbish, yes

the bon accord is on st. george's road, south of the mitchell library, near a harley davidson shop, I think

i remember bottles of ginger called bon accord that used to get delivered to your door.

Ward, i'm going to the SSO thing on sat.

also: skaters @ Captains Rest = WTF?

i like stravaigin. well, i like the BAR at stravaigin.

the rogers sisters are playing on tuesday at some place called ABC 2, you should all go because they are great!!

i also like the arlington, and the queens park cafe

Did you get Bon Accord ginger down in the Central Belt? I sort of assumed it was an up-north thing (are you Central Belt, jed_, I sort of assume you are?)

That SSO thing looks awesome.

ABC and ABC2 have marvellously well-stocked bars for gig venues.

I forgot to pass on good wishes for Vicky's friend's daughter. And, yes, I should be available to spend some time with you on the Friday should you so wish.

we had bon accord juice deliveries, where I grew up

we were discussing this, a wee while ago. the concept

cookie & cozen & anna all remembered diff brands, I think, and we thought it must have been local stuff

I think I thought it was local because Bon Accord is something to do with Aberdeen and Aberdeen seemed more local to me than Glasgow or Edinburgh, which may as well have been on the moon as far as little me was concerned.

yes alisa - i'm from glasgow.