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Lol never drummed better in his life than he did on "All Cats Are Grey". MAYBE "A Strange Day".

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 2 May 2005 16:01 (nineteen years ago) link

full digital remastered version of that take of "To Wish Impossible Things" that was only on the video of Play

Err, you mean 'The Big Hand', right?

Baaderonixxxorzh (Fabfunk), Monday, 2 May 2005 16:46 (nineteen years ago) link

*coughs* Excuse me, Show, not Play (Out).

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 2 May 2005 16:54 (nineteen years ago) link

TS: Show vs Paris

(OMG The demo of "Doubt" is... WOW.)

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 2 May 2005 17:11 (nineteen years ago) link

TS: Show vs Paris

No overlapping tracks = HOORAY. (But I've always listened to Paris more.)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 2 May 2005 17:15 (nineteen years ago) link

I never even bought Show.

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 2 May 2005 17:52 (nineteen years ago) link

Dan, where is the play for today bootleg recorded? is it the Werchter festival?

mzui (mzui), Monday, 2 May 2005 18:01 (nineteen years ago) link

It was a show on May 24, 1980 in Arnheim, Netherlands.

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 2 May 2005 18:04 (nineteen years ago) link

Ah, yeah, thats a goody.

mzui (mzui), Monday, 2 May 2005 18:06 (nineteen years ago) link

YES IT IS. That boot is one of my favorite CDs of all time.

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 2 May 2005 18:08 (nineteen years ago) link

I never even bought Show.

It's good...but that's all it is, good. I gather the reason both it and the movie exist is because Porl had already told Robert he wanted to quit soon and Robert wanted to have a good document of the time and place (and also to have something without Lol, ie The Cure in Orange, which is still a better film and performance overall).

But that encore on the Show film, now that's something.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 2 May 2005 18:10 (nineteen years ago) link

This is a list of my Cure shit, if anyone fancies a trade (not just for Cure) give us a shout.

Marquee Club, London 11/3/79 Aud 25 Mins - 8
Carshalton Park Festival 1/6//79 Aud 42 Mins - 8
Reading Festival 24/8/79 Aud 20 Mins - 8+
Oxford New Theatre 29/9/79 30 Mins Aud - 6 (includes early Play for Today)
Birmingham University 28/11/79 Aud 65 Mins - 7+
Amsterdam, Paradiso 12/12/79 60 Mins Sbd – 8
Amsterdam, Paradiso 12/12/79 37 Mins Sbd – 9 (diff source)
Belgium, Ancienne Belgique, Brussels 22/10/80 80 Mins Sbd – 9
New York, Hurrah's Club 15/4/80 50 Mins Aud - 8+
New York, Hurrah’s Club 15/4/80 62 Mins Aud – 8
Arnheim, Stokvisual 24/5/80 75 Mins MX/Radio - 9
Herford, W.Germany 31/5/80 85 Mins Sbd – 9+ (includes Happy Birthday Simon/Three)
Koln, Germany 1/6/80 Aud 54 Mins – 8/8+
Grand Studios RTL, Paris 9/6/80 FM 29 Mins – 9-
Rettel Festival, Rettel 14/6/80 Sbd 62 Mins – 8+
Zomerpop Festival, Veenendal, Holland 28/6/80 FM 30 Mins - 9+
Melbourne, Australia, Prospect Hill 26/8/80 80 mins Aud - 8
RockPalast, Koeln, Stockholm 3/10/80 80 Mins Aud - 8
Jaap Edenhalle, Amsterdam, Holland 17/10/80 20 Mins Radio - 9 (includes I Hate Rock And Roll, s/c)
Amsterdam 'Countdown' 17/10/80 20 Mins Sbd/TV - 9
Rennes, L'espace Club 28/10/80 85 Mins Aud - 8
Cardiff University 18/11/80 Sbd 58 Mins – 8+
Edinburgh Odeon 16/5/81 85 Mins Aud - 9+
Dusseldorf, Phillippshalle 18/6/81 85 Mins MX/Radio - 9
Park, Rotterdam 27/6/81 Aud 103 Mins – 8-
Werchter Festival, Belgium FM 5/7/81 45 Mins - 10
New York, The Ritz 23/7/81 85 Mins Aud - 7
Los Angeles, Whiskey A' Go Go 27/7/81 85 Mins Aud - 8
Sydney, Capital Theatre 17/8/81 FM 74 Mins - 8+
Lille, France, Palais St Sauveur 12/10/81 85 Mins Sbd - 9
Top Rank Skating Bowl, Plymouth 10/4/82 Aud 87 Mins – 8
Glasgow Pavillion 25/4/82 85 Mins Aud - 7+
Edinburgh Odeon 26/4/82 80 Mins Aud - 6+
Olympia Theatre, Paris 7/6/82 Sbd 78 Mins - 9-
Bournemouth, Midnight Express Club 27/3/83 85 Mins Aud - 8
Moles Club, Bath 28/7/83 Aud 89 Mins – 8
Elephant Fayre Festival, Port Eliot, St Germain UK 30/7/83 Sbd 97 Mins - 9
Guildhall, Portsmouth 6/5/84 Aud 88 Mins - 8
Hammersmith Odeon, 9/5/84 Aud 104 Mins – 8+
Hertogenbosch Maaspoort, Holland 30/5/84 MX 74 Mins – 9
Hertogenbosch Maaspoort, Holland 30/5/84 Aud 105 Mins – 8+
Nanako Sun Plaza Hall, Tokyo 17/10/84 85 Mins MX - 8+
Austin Opera House 2/11/84 Aud 82 Mins - 9
Washington, Post Pavillion 13/11/84 90 Mins MX - 9+
Dallas, Arcadia Theatre 3/11/84 60 Mins Aud - 7+
Birmingham NEC 20/9/85 60 Mins BBC Radio 1 FM - 9
Cleveland Public Hall, Cleveland Ohio 22/10/85 98 Mins - 9
Hamburg Markethalle 3/12/85 110 Mins Aud – 8
Ludwigshafen, Friedrich Ebert Halle 5/12/85 Aud 62 Mins - 9
Royal Albert Hall, London 25/4/86 Aud 109 Mins - 9
Nurnburgring Festival, Germany 14/6/86 74 Mins Aud - 9+
Glastonbury Festival 21/6/86 60 Mins BBC Radio 1 Live - 10
Southern Star Amphitheatre, Houston, Texas Aud 20/7/86 103 Mins - 9
Santa Barbara, CA 13/7/87 FM 66 Mins – 9+
Forest National, Bruxelles, Belgium 1/11/87 Aud - 94 mins - 8+
Palaeur, Rome 27/11/87 Aud 125 Mins - 8-
Birmingham NEC 6/12/87 60 Mins BBC Radio 1 Live - 10
Wembley Arena, London 9/12/87 Aud 172 Mins – 8-
Birmingham NEC 21/7/89 Aud 168 Mins – 8+
Sports Arena, San Diego 12/9/89 Aud 144 Mins – 8+
Glastonbury Festival 24/6/90 BBC FM 60 Mins - 10
Leysin Rock Festival, Switzerland 6/7/90 FM 95 Mins - 10
Wembley Arena, London 19/1/91 BBC FM 50 Mins - 9+
MTV Unplugged, London SB 3/3/91 30 Mins - 10
Corn Exchange, Cambridge 28/4/92 Aud 106 Mins - 8
Kilburn National Theatre, London 3/5/92 Sbd 150 Mins - 9+ (20 Mins Filler from T/C2 Club 91)
Bercy Omnisport, Paris MX 15/10/96 142 Mins - 9+
Nynex Arena, Manchester 14/12/96 Aud 146 Mins - 8/8+
State Event Centre, San Jose 8/12/97 Aud 113 Mins – 9-
Forestglade Festival, Wiesen, Germany 19/7/98 115 Mins Radio Broadcast/MX - 10
Bizarre Festival, Koln 22/8/98 FM 74 Mins – 9+ (inc Filler Germany 98)
Hamburg Promo gig 2/1/00 110 Mins FM - 9+
Tweeter Centre, Mansfield 14/6/00 Aud 164 Mins - 9
Vieilles Charrues Festival, Brittany, France 20/6/02 Aud 129 Mins - 8+
Zillo Festival, Flughafen, Hahn 13/7/02 Aud 131 Mins – 9
Coachella Festival, Indio CA 2/5/04 Aud 104 Mins – 9+
Early Symptoms - 76 Mins - Easy Cure/Cure Demos from 77-82 - 9
'Buried Demo's' 77-80 MX/Aud - 71 Mins - ranges from 7 to 9 (inc: I'm A Cult Hero)
Arabian Dreams - 45 Mins - Various Faith-Era Live + Studio Tracks - 9+
The Top, Demo Versions - 50 Mins - 9
The Complete B-Sides Collection 1987-1992 (CD) 74 Mins - 9+/10
Stained Glass Smile - Camden Palace - 19/11/85 Royal Albert Hall 25/4/86 Birmingham NEC 6/12/87 - 74 Mins FM - 10
'1000 Virgins' Various Covers/Remixes + Live SB/MX - 62 Mins - 9+/10
All Cats Are Grey - Morgan Studios Monitor Mix, (diff from album version) - Ultra Rare! - 5 Mins - 10

mzui (mzui), Monday, 2 May 2005 18:11 (nineteen years ago) link

Nope, I'm STILL not convinced you like them.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 2 May 2005 18:18 (nineteen years ago) link

oh, have I violated ILM protcol, cuh!

mzui (mzui), Monday, 2 May 2005 18:20 (nineteen years ago) link

;-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 2 May 2005 18:21 (nineteen years ago) link

I've got this one but it isn't that great:

http://www.musicfanclubs.org/cure/boots/hothothot.html

I also have Swinging Piggy In The Mirror lying around somewhere.

The version of "Forever" on the Faith bonus disc is... disturbing. I LONG FOR AND LUST AFTER THE CURIOSITY VERSION.

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 2 May 2005 18:25 (nineteen years ago) link

Very late to the table on this thread. In any case, I picked up the re-issues for Faith, Pornography and Seventeen Seconds this weekend. I'm rationalizing the expenditure by giving the versions of each album I already had (the reg'lar Elektra editions) to my punk/metal-discovering 12 year old nephew. I wasn't going to pick them up at first, until I saw all the rarieites/extras. To finally be able to hear tracks that originally appeared on the Curiosity compilation (side b of the cassette of Concert) remastered in their full glory is my goal. I have those tracks culled together on a bootleg, but the sound quality is a marked upgrade from what I had before. Anyway, blah blah blah blah blah.....I'd forgotten how fucking amazing these records are.

The Killing Joke back catalogue is being re-issued later this year. Here's hoping they follow this example.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 2 May 2005 18:26 (nineteen years ago) link

Don't forget the Siouxsie reissues!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 2 May 2005 18:29 (nineteen years ago) link

Okay, I'd forgotten that "Charlotte Sometimes" is FUCKING AWESOME. Oh my God.

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 2 May 2005 18:34 (nineteen years ago) link

and Talking Heads!

mzui (mzui), Monday, 2 May 2005 18:36 (nineteen years ago) link

On that bleak track
See the sun is gone again
Tears were pouring down her face
She was crying and crying
For a girl who died
So many years before

(SO GREAT)

(Also that extended chord on the words "Charlotte Sometimes" with all the ninths and elevenths in it!)

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 2 May 2005 18:36 (nineteen years ago) link

I need to arrange an a capella version of this song.

I remember reading a Cure write-up long ago that was talking about the amazing imagery of Smith's lyrics and quoted as an example "'Come to escape,' he says/And Charlotte sometimes..." I think I went completely postal in ridiculing this writer. I think it's in Ten Imaginary Years somewhere.

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 2 May 2005 18:41 (nineteen years ago) link

My favorite is the rendition of "Charlotte Sometimes" on Concert. I picked up the Concert cassette on a bike trip through Europe in 1987, and was forever flipping the tape over. Right at the end of "Charlotte Sometimes", on the flip was the beginning of "All Mine" (a song fragment that haunts me to this day)...which i was continually listening to over and over and over...

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 2 May 2005 18:44 (nineteen years ago) link

I was thinking about compiling a double CD of live tracks as an alternative version of Curiosity.

It would be a great listen, there are lots of superb versions of songs that spring to mind, it could start at '79 and go through to '04.

Anyone interested? Any song suggestions?

mzui (mzui), Monday, 2 May 2005 19:15 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm in. There are a few songs I'd suggest but in many cases I don't know the performances they're from...

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 2 May 2005 19:24 (nineteen years ago) link

Okay, I'll get a tracklist together....Any more, c'mon peeps, let me abuse my work's facilities here!

mzui (mzui), Monday, 2 May 2005 19:27 (nineteen years ago) link

"Temptation" is begging to be drowned in Pornography murk. I am loving this to bits.

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 2 May 2005 19:37 (nineteen years ago) link

OMG "A Strange Day"!!!!!!!!!!!! This is fucking awesome.

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 2 May 2005 20:19 (nineteen years ago) link

"PORNOGRAPHY" OMG

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 2 May 2005 20:24 (nineteen years ago) link

Hehehe.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 2 May 2005 20:28 (nineteen years ago) link

"Temptation Two"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HOW AWESOME!

Half of these demos are like Seventeen Seconds with fangs.

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 2 May 2005 20:39 (nineteen years ago) link

And now there's no more surprise and you have to wait.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 2 May 2005 20:40 (nineteen years ago) link

The hilarious thing is that all through "Temptation Two" I was sitting here going, "God, this sounds EXACTLY LIKE another song, but not 'Let's Go To Bed'..." and then I went, "Oh yeah, 'Temptation' from earlier on the CD. Duh."

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 2 May 2005 20:47 (nineteen years ago) link

Hahaha.

And then you started humming "Oh you've got grey eyes, oh you've got green eyes..."

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 2 May 2005 20:48 (nineteen years ago) link

"Airlock" is kind of every stupid idea art students have about incidental film music wrapped up into one horrid little composition. I have no time for it.

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 2 May 2005 20:49 (nineteen years ago) link

Yeah, but there's giggling.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 2 May 2005 20:50 (nineteen years ago) link

(I like to imagine that the film shows three little dark elves dancing around and murdering Chopin.)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 2 May 2005 20:50 (nineteen years ago) link

Meanwhile, Carnage Visors details the slow crawl of a guy getting out of his chair and eventually washing his hands.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 2 May 2005 20:51 (nineteen years ago) link

Carnage Visors is a stroke by stroke aural recreation of a slow, intense bout of sexing!

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 2 May 2005 20:58 (nineteen years ago) link

I would worry about this if Joei heard it and said "I have a headache."

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 2 May 2005 21:24 (nineteen years ago) link

Count me in the alternate Curosity thingy. I was thinking of doing sth similar tracking the evolution of 'Forever' over the years. Although, if I pick one version per tour between 1981 and 2004, it will have to be a double CD and that would maybe be a bit much to take in...

Baaderonixxxorzh (Fabfunk), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 07:12 (nineteen years ago) link

Good Stuff.

Does anyone have a note (or know where to find a note) of the locations of the Curiosity live tracks, my tape is up the loft.

mzui (mzui), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 08:35 (nineteen years ago) link

So let's get the track list started! This should def. include 'All I wanna do is kill her', which seems lost since it didn't appear on the Porn reissue. Although if we get all nerdy about it, one could argue that 'All Mine' and 'All I wanna do...' are improvised variations on a same theme. Or are they? Is 'All Mine' a version of 'Forever' or is it an altogether different beast? The public has the right to know!

And now that I think of it, what happened to 'Ariel'?

Baaderonixxxorzh (Fabfunk), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 09:11 (nineteen years ago) link

'AM' the early version of In Your House - Birmingham '79

Lament - Bath or Brighton 83 (whichever is better)

I Dig You + Cult Hero (with Frank on vocals) Barfly London March 04

I Hate Rock & Roll (improv based on Three if memory serves) Holland 81

Happy Birthday Simon/Three/All Mine Belgium 81

mzui (mzui), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 09:27 (nineteen years ago) link

The Holy Hour - Werchter Festival 81

mzui (mzui), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 09:29 (nineteen years ago) link

All I have To Do is Kill Her - another 'Three' Improv Paris 82

mzui (mzui), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 09:30 (nineteen years ago) link

holy shit, I ordered all three from DeepDiscount CDs on Thursday and they arrived here on Monday!

I was really on the fence about buying "Seventeen Seconds" but am very glad. The remastering alone makes these discs worthy. I listened to the Cure prior to "Head On the Door" only on cassette, and in that situation almost exclusively through crappy Walkman headphones. Listening now through a real stereo (and even on my computer's Altec's) is eye opening. AWESOME.

My complaint is that I really don't see the point of the live tracks included...I'd much, much, much rather just have a reissue of all-live stuff.

FYI, I remember searching and searching and FINALLY finding a "Concert" import CD in college and selling a textbook to go buy it.

don weiner, Tuesday, 3 May 2005 11:09 (nineteen years ago) link

curiosity

heroin face 4 dec 77 the rocket crawley
boys dont cry 27 may 78 chestnut studio frensham
subway song oct 79 nottingham
at night 9 june 80 french radio
in your house 15 jan 80 holland
the drowning man aug 81 australia or NZ
other voices 81 "somewhere else'
the funeral party nov 81 'somewhere'
all mine 1 may 82 london
forever 15 may 84 paris

ronny longjohns (ronny longjohns), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 14:35 (nineteen years ago) link

Thank you very much, that is most helpful.

Now, one question, do I put any Disintegration tracks on this comp, if so which?

mzui (mzui), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 17:59 (nineteen years ago) link

"Harold And Joe" - London 1991 (rare)
"Disintegration" - Chicago 2-25-2000
the Entreat version of "Prayers For Rain"
"Foxy Lady" - Manchester 1992

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 18:04 (nineteen years ago) link


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