RIP Bebe Barron

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Studie I is composed with "groups". Like the table of pitches, these groups are also constructed from sets of six numbers so that, for example, the first six "vertical" groups of the composition contain 4, 5, 3, 6, 2, and 1 notes each. Stockhausen calls these note groups "note mixtures", and extrapolates the same grouping principle to the formal structure of the entire work: successive note mixtures form horizontal sequences, groups of these sequences form "structures", and these structures are organized into one large "group series" that produces a unifying proportion series for the entire work (Stockhausen 1992, 104). In order to increase the contrast between the note groups, a set of six envelope curves was added: steady amplitude, increasing amplitude to a sudden cut-off at the specified maximum, and a gradual decrease from the specified maximum; each of these occurs with and without reverberation to produce six forms in all (Stockhausen 1992, 111).

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Milton Parker, Friday, 30 September 2011 23:25 (twelve years ago) link

oh stockhausen had some pretty fantastical rants, though--in this book i have of essays on mysticism and magic(k), there is this insane essay by stockhausen

just found it, typing some of this out:

'We have forgotten that once all music composed was sacred music. That is the greatest problem today: to make music that does not smell of church (so that most people would immediately say 'I have nothing do to with that'), yet which is experienced quite obviously as spiritual music, without allying itself to specific forms of religion . . . I would actually like to make more and more music that is heard above all by people who are religious; and religious in such a way that they will let the whole be set in vibration within themselves, that unlimited Self which allows us to make contact with the fantastic feelings of unity that embrace the whole cosmos.'

'That which in my music is not Stockhausen--the most essential part--is timeless, universal. 'Stockhausen' is only a label, a name. When I have gone, it is no longer there. But the music lives on. Then my name is merely a word, as when I say 'Moments' to name something. But that no longer has anything to do with me. None of you knows 'Beethoven'. He is a myth! He is a series of letters.'

geeta, Saturday, 1 October 2011 00:03 (twelve years ago) link

oh man it just gets better and better

'I will tell you: Stockhausen's music is not Stockhausen, but this spirit which is using me. And you, too, are not what you appear to be. Your human personality is quite limited and temporary. You are little lights, as I am, which flicker--which whisper something to one another, to pass the time.'

geeta, Saturday, 1 October 2011 00:05 (twelve years ago) link

yeah that guy never really came back from 1968. I loved 'Stimmung' a lot more before I read the translation of the lyrics.

Wendy Carlos' tribute page, including her pilgrimage to the outside of their NYC electronic music studio. Pictures of the doorway Cage & Tudor & co walked through every day for several years for those who are likewise obsessed with aura

http://www.wendycarlos.com/people/BebeNYC/index.html
http://www.wendycarlos.com/people/BebeNYC/Barrons56b.jpg

Milton Parker, Saturday, 1 October 2011 00:22 (twelve years ago) link

that photo is so great

re: Bells of Atlantis, up above: Ian Hugo (real name Hugh Guiler) was a super interesting guy. he was one of Anais Nin's (many) husbands:

http://anaisninblog.skybluepress.com/2009/03/ian-hugo-filmmaker/

he also made a film called 'Jazz of Lights' featuring music by the Barrons

geeta, Saturday, 1 October 2011 00:31 (twelve years ago) link

whoa:

"In Jazz of Lights, the street lights of Times Square become, in Nin’s words, "an ephemeral flow of sensations"; this flow that she also calls "phantasmagorical" had a crucial impact on Stan Brakhage who now says that without Jazz of Lights (in 1954) "there would have been no Anticipation of the Night" (in 1958)."

http://www.roberthaller.com/firstlight/hugo.html

geeta, Saturday, 1 October 2011 00:34 (twelve years ago) link

Stockhausen's first quote isn't a lot worse than Barron's. Some stuff about 'dreams' and 'animals' - you could reproduce both in a SF pulp classic with the right context behid it and it would scan ok.

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 1 October 2011 09:58 (twelve years ago) link

I like the two Stockhausen quotes Geeta posted. And of course I'm a simple fan of Stockhausen 1955-1969ish. He's just a good comparison point because he's the person who notoriously kicked off each of his program notes with sentences on the order of 'XXXX is the first musical composition to ever achieve XXXX' and for decades, many people didn't doubt him, but history's more complex

It is of course dangerous to be making the claim that the Barrons were -the- first, something else is always turning up, like that Australian Jack Ellitt cut-up piece from the early 30's presaging musique concrete, but they certainly anticipated most of the people who made it to the wider market first. And perhaps they were inhibited as much as helped by the fact that their one widely available release was a Hollywood film soundtrack, those associations kept people from hearing it as music in and of itself.

Milton Parker, Saturday, 1 October 2011 18:59 (twelve years ago) link

http://www.filmcement.org/rummage/archives/000286.html

Hunted the Ellitt sample in the above link - well worth tracking down. Thanks, as always, Milton. If you slipped some bits of the above in some random Warp comp it would pass you by.

I know what you mean - don't care for the ego, always liked quiet ppl more. otoh you need to kept shouting to get ppl to hand over money for more grandiose projects - unfortunately history will record it has not been wise to keep giving Stockhausen money after '69.

Nowadays people woud certainly recognise a great soundtrack. Then again there is the 'soundtrack to my life' dimension to music.

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 2 October 2011 08:55 (twelve years ago) link

one year passes...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Biqz1r2d_xY&feature=youtu.be

the place to be in nyc tomorrow: http://www.lightindustry.org/barrons

Milton Parker, Tuesday, 19 February 2013 03:05 (eleven years ago) link

& this new page is eye-opening: http://barronsoundportraits.com/

Milton Parker, Tuesday, 19 February 2013 03:06 (eleven years ago) link

Looks good. Where is that, Freeman Street?

Stranded In the Jungle Groove (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 19 February 2013 03:17 (eleven years ago) link

OK, I see, Greenpoint.

Stranded In the Jungle Groove (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 19 February 2013 03:19 (eleven years ago) link

five months pass...

good taste, DJ Premier

http://www.whosampled.com/sample/view/72374/The%20Notorious%20B.I.G.-Kick%20in%20the%20Door_Louis%20and%20Bebe%20Barron-Robby,%20the%20Cook,%20and%2060%20Gallons%20of%20Booze/

that sample always sounded familiar. don't remember this being included in the sample credits, though that does not necessarily mean that they did not license it (though that is often what it does mean)

Milton Parker, Thursday, 8 August 2013 19:09 (ten years ago) link

two years pass...
eight months pass...

not Bebe, but I hear these two were close

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLD0PICgTnk&feature=youtu.be

Driver's Education: "What's The Big Hurry?" circa 1974 Sid Davis; Music by Louis Barron

Milton Parker, Saturday, 14 May 2016 08:55 (seven years ago) link

in many interviews bebe was taken to be the primary 'composer' or organizer of the recordings they'd make of their circuits, so it is pretty interesting to hear and compare a solo score from louis

Milton Parker, Saturday, 14 May 2016 09:12 (seven years ago) link

A couple of months ago I saw Geeta Dayal and Ben Burtt give a great talk at the Exploratorium about the Barrons as well as Forbidden Planet -- really enjoyable evening, and as I'd just never known about them before, very informative.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 14 May 2016 11:04 (seven years ago) link

that was a good night / very special to see 'Jazz of Lights' which is very rarely screened and the remastered 'Bells of Atlantis' drew audible gasps during the first few seconds, either because the images were so inherently beautiful or in my case because I couldn't believe how clear & sharp the images were after years of only seeing the terrible online version that looks like it's a 4th generation VHS transfer, and they feature a few extra credit stills, including a credit noting David Tudor as an assistant. the music in those films are so timeless and first it is almost hard to believe what you're hearing, or that they are not referenced more often

after coming across 'What's The Big Hurry' last night I briefly scouted for any of the other films / scores listed on wiki but nothing immediate turned up, if anyone else ever comes across anything please post to thread.

Milton Parker, Sunday, 15 May 2016 02:04 (seven years ago) link

seven months pass...

Shirley Clarke's Bridges-Go-Round had two separate scores, and she often screened them back-to-back. The second half of this video has the Barrons' version (Teo Macero's jazz score is pretty great, too): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gxX74iGRTc

Fetchboy, Saturday, 14 January 2017 20:37 (seven years ago) link

There are some sections in the score lifted from Forbidden Planet which brought up copyright issues so Clarke had to get someone else to score it.

Fetchboy, Saturday, 14 January 2017 20:50 (seven years ago) link


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