Never ever trust a Dusty Groove review 'cuz they refer to free jazz as "hippy dippy."
― hstencil, Tuesday, 11 March 2003 20:26 (twenty-one years ago) link
― A Nairn (moretap), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 20:32 (twenty-one years ago) link
but i thought that was obvious
― JasonD (JasonD), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 20:33 (twenty-one years ago) link
― A Nairn (moretap), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 20:41 (twenty-one years ago) link
― JasonD (JasonD), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 20:43 (twenty-one years ago) link
Pretty spot on, Jason except you forgot the obigatory exclamation point!
Does anyone else find this extremely annoying!
― Mr. Diamond (diamond), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 21:18 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Al (sitcom), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 21:20 (twenty-one years ago) link
Yes but
― Amateurist (amateurist), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 21:21 (twenty-one years ago) link
You're right, above, about Dusty Groove and their reviews, although the store itself in Chicago is kinda nice and they do have good stuff if you're into classic '60s Brazilian pop and suchlike...
― Jess Hill (jesshill), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 21:21 (twenty-one years ago) link
― oops (Oops), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 21:25 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Mr. Diamond (diamond), Wednesday, 12 March 2003 06:04 (twenty-one years ago) link
i actually have a song by Otto ona comp, it's an intensely moody tribute to Bob Marley and it really rolls, i've liked it for years.
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 12 March 2003 06:10 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 12 March 2003 13:06 (twenty-one years ago) link
Jason, you should definitely check out Chico Science – I think he was brilliant and his death seemed like the end of era and maybe death of mangue (friends of mine in Brazil who work with music were devastated when he died). The scene seems to be going strong tho and his old band Nacao Zumbi is still putting stuff out. I’d recommend checking out Chico first and then if you like him going for NZ. Start with “Afrociberdelia” as it should give you a sense of whether you want to go further or not.
Lately I’ve been enjoying DJ Dolores & Orchestra Santa Massa, which has traditional fiddle, etc over various beats. I don’t love the entire entire album but the first couple of tracks get me grinning ear-to-ear whenever I listen to ‘em. The DJ approach to mangue.
Zuco 103 takes a different approach to mixing electronica with Brazilian. It is more clubbeats oriented as opposed to mangue etc. and live at least Zuco are huge amounts of fun. Their new album has gotten pretty good reviews , but their first “Outro Lado” had only about 4 songs I really liked with the rest being ‘eh’ so I’m waiting for a free copy.
Lenine’s album “Na Prassao” is great. Samba mixed with rock and electronica is a v. basic description. Most people I know who are more knowledgeable about the contemp. scene than me are are big fans.
Others I like if not blown away - Pedro Luis A Parade (again mixing electronica/brazilian but from a more rock perspective) Suba (pretty strightforward samba & bossa nova over loops, “Sao Paulo Confessions” is his big work – he also produced, among others, Bebel’s "Tanto Tempo")
Seen Max de Castro but have no memory of his performance (generally not a positive sign)
From the second generation of Brazilians, as mentioned above, Bebel is doing good stuff. Only heard one track by Moreno Veloso so can’t really comment on him tho that one track was v. funky. (incidentally, one of the biggest Brazilian labels Trama (who I think put out Otto) is run by the son of Elis Regina)
All I can think of for now, will post later if brain comes back online.
― H (Heruy), Friday, 14 March 2003 14:37 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Jess Hill (jesshill), Friday, 14 March 2003 14:41 (twenty-one years ago) link
anyone heard either and have comments? they sound pretty cool from the amg and amazon reviews.
― JasonD (JasonD), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 22:07 (twenty years ago) link
― Daniel (dancity), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 23:08 (twenty years ago) link
― Daniel (dancity), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 23:17 (twenty years ago) link
― Daniel (dancity), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 23:23 (twenty years ago) link
i recently picked up Rita Lee's first album "Build Up" and have been really digging it. it was produced by one of the guys from the Mutantes, so it is still a little wacky, but has more of a big band orchestration thing going on for the beginning of the album at least (near the end it gets a bit more rocking). but i swear, the more recent album of hers i bought (from the mid to late 90s) was the pits. her charming puns would be totally lost on me since i don't speak Portuguese.
any word on those two artists i just mentioned upthread?
― JasonD (JasonD), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 23:46 (twenty years ago) link
― Daniel (dancity), Thursday, 15 May 2003 07:02 (twenty years ago) link
the marquee and amabis discs are nice enough. nice being the word to watch.
― gaz (gaz), Thursday, 15 May 2003 08:43 (twenty years ago) link
― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 15 May 2003 09:12 (twenty years ago) link
― Tuomas (Tuomas), Thursday, 15 May 2003 11:04 (twenty years ago) link
― Tuomas (Tuomas), Thursday, 15 May 2003 11:11 (twenty years ago) link
anybody listening to the new Ceu album?
― hope this helps (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 9 July 2009 16:04 (fourteen years ago) link
I'm curious about it, but have not heard it yet. Not that I was wowed by her prior one, but it wasn't bad.
― curmudgeon, Thursday, 9 July 2009 16:17 (fourteen years ago) link
Yeah I only felt the need to download one of the tracks from the last album. I'm 11 tracks into this one (out of 13), and it's pretty good!
― hope this helps (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 9 July 2009 16:24 (fourteen years ago) link
Nobody here into Curumin?
― Shin Oliva Suzuki, Friday, 10 July 2009 00:09 (fourteen years ago) link
i am now!
― hope this helps (Granny Dainger), Friday, 10 July 2009 00:13 (fourteen years ago) link
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, March 12, 2003 12:10 AM (6 years ago) Bookmark
^^^^Listening to this great track, "Bob", right now: I have it on a comp too, What's Happening in Pernambuco, which is great throughout -- but I don't think this was out in 2003, so what comp do you have it on?
I had no idea it was about Marley.
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Friday, 10 July 2009 01:11 (fourteen years ago) link
I believe Curumin is still to make his best album, but I really like the other two
― Shin Oliva Suzuki, Friday, 10 July 2009 01:27 (fourteen years ago) link
Curumin was appearing in Central Park (summerstage) NYC with Juana Molina Wednesday night. Alas, I'm in DC and no gig here
― curmudgeon, Friday, 10 July 2009 03:17 (fourteen years ago) link
Has anyone listened to the new Céu album? Sounds to me like a dub version of a Brightblack Morning Light record with some Brazilian textures - obviously. I think sometimes her music lacks punch, but it's a good album overall.
― Shin Oliva Suzuki, Friday, 24 July 2009 13:03 (fourteen years ago) link
ed mottas that bad?
― titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Friday, 24 July 2009 13:09 (fourteen years ago) link
No, but I can't say he does outstanding work.
― Shin Oliva Suzuki, Friday, 24 July 2009 13:23 (fourteen years ago) link
You're so 2 weeks ago, Shin
― hope this helps (Granny Dainger), Friday, 24 July 2009 14:19 (fourteen years ago) link
hahaha, I really am.
this guy in NYT wrote nice things about her http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/23/arts/music/23ceu.html?_r=1&scp=1&sq=c%C3%A9u&st=cse
― Shin Oliva Suzuki, Friday, 24 July 2009 14:53 (fourteen years ago) link
Orquestra Contemporânea de Olinda,from Northeast Brazil is touring the US now with its rock meets frevo(Brazilian brass band) meets ska sound
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/03/arts/music/03atrium.html
,Apr 1 2010 8:00P LINCOLN CENTER - NEW YORK New York, New YorkApr 3 2010 10:00P SOB´S - NEW YORK NEW YORK, New YorkApr 5 2010 6:00P KENNEDY CENTER - WASHINGTON Washington, WashingtonApr 6 2010 8:00P RUMBA - CHICAGO Chicago, IllinoisApr 7 2010 8:00P PERCUSSION AND BRASS WORKSHOP IN NEW ORLEANS New Orleans, LouisianaApr 8 2010 8:00P workshop Maciel Salú, Tiné and SHOW in New Orleans New Orleans, LouisianaApr 9 2010 8:00P HEINEKEN TRANSATLANTIC Miami, FloridaApr 16 2010 9:00P AUDITÓRIO IBIRAPUERA - SP São Paulo, São PauloApr 17 2010 9:00P Teatro - OI FUTURO IPANEMA Rio de janeiro, Rio de JaneiroApr 18 2010 8:00P Teatro - OI FUTURO IPANEMA Rio de Janeiro, Rio de Janeiro
― curmudgeon, Monday, 5 April 2010 03:48 (fourteen years ago) link
Here's a youtube of 'em. The Washington DC show Monday night is actually from 6 to 7 and is free.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXMj4VQ3-_E
― curmudgeon, Monday, 5 April 2010 04:06 (fourteen years ago) link
I'm looking forward to seeing them tonight.
― curmudgeon, Monday, 5 April 2010 14:59 (fourteen years ago) link
http://festivalbrazil.southbankcentre.co.uk/
Anybody see anything in this fest?
― curmudgeon, Saturday, 24 July 2010 05:22 (thirteen years ago) link
I want to again mention that Maria Rita is great. I don't quite get the neglect. Maybe she's too simple? Anyway, she's certainly not in the tropicalia vein, and she's not doing crazy electronic/metal/atonal mashups, so that may contribute to a lack of interest.
― _Rudipherous_, Saturday, 24 July 2010 13:16 (thirteen years ago) link
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/06/arts/music/06latin.html?ref=music
I confess that I have never previously heard of Ivete Sangalo, Brazil's biggest pop star, who just sold out a show at Madison Square Garden in NYC.
― curmudgeon, Monday, 6 September 2010 21:50 (thirteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9PMRrt8Wwbw&feature=fvsr
I'm trusting the word of Jon Pareles, from the NY Times, that she's the biggest current Brazilian pop star.
― curmudgeon, Monday, 6 September 2010 21:55 (thirteen years ago) link
The encore part must have been great.
― curmudgeon, Tuesday, 7 September 2010 03:23 (thirteen years ago) link
I liked that more than I expected to. Why haven't any of our local Brazilian experts mentioned this person before (or have they)?
― _Rudipherous_, Tuesday, 7 September 2010 03:48 (thirteen years ago) link
Sangalo is definitely "not my beach" as they say in Brazil. Her tinny rhythms and shrill voice used to get right on my nerves when I was over there.
― Daniel Giraffe, Tuesday, 7 September 2010 09:33 (thirteen years ago) link
I did an ILX search of posts with "Sangalo" and the only mentions that came up were when someone posted a list of Latin Grammy nominees (they have a Brazilian category).
I Like Margareth Menezes who appeared onstage for the encore part.Below is how Pareles described it in the NY Times:
She brought her whole staff onstage along with Margareth Menezes and Netinho, fellow Bahian singers. With her band somehow picking up cues amid the crowd, she vaulted through a half-dozen carnival songs, full of references to the streets and neighborhoods of Bahia’s capital, Salvador, with the whole arena singing along. Even in New York she was playing to a home crowd.
― curmudgeon, Tuesday, 7 September 2010 13:25 (thirteen years ago) link
Why haven't any of our local Brazilian experts mentioned this person before (or have they)?
because she's crap. I really don't see anything interesting in her, musically speaking
― Shin Oliva Suzuki, Thursday, 9 September 2010 00:21 (thirteen years ago) link
There's a new Tulipa Ruiz, called Habilidades extraordinárias ! I'll just post the opener. She sounds just as good and fresh as she did 12 year ago.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBqy4z5xc1oTulipa Ruiz - Samaúma
― Nabozo, Saturday, 19 November 2022 09:12 (one year ago) link
I'm just reporting that the first six songs here are very good, if not quite as innovative as the jazzy arrangements were on Efemera.If there is a highlight in terms of songwriting, it is probably Kamikaze Total.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7JdNIBneoATulipa Ruiz - Kamikaze Total
― Nabozo, Sunday, 27 November 2022 20:26 (one year ago) link
https://brazilbeatblog.wordpress.com/top-ten-lists/
This blog had Tulipa Ruiz in a top 10 list for 2015, and one of my faves Romulo Froes in a couple of other years
― curmudgeon, Monday, 28 November 2022 04:35 (one year ago) link
sessa - "estrela acesa" and tim bernardes - "mil coisas invisíveis" are two i really enjoyed this year. both could be described as retro and i saw today that both made the aquarium drunkard EOY list.
― budo jeru, Monday, 12 December 2022 17:04 (one year ago) link
bernardes record kind of a downer singer-songwriter workout for fans of caetano's "transa" while the sessa record is more like mystic samba in the vein of powell / de moraes.
― budo jeru, Monday, 12 December 2022 17:13 (one year ago) link
agree, two v good records
― corrs unplugged, Tuesday, 13 December 2022 10:04 (one year ago) link
Listened to Bernardes last night. Good but retro and Caetano Velosa like
― curmudgeon, Tuesday, 13 December 2022 15:23 (one year ago) link
Veloso and maybe shouldn't have said "but"
― curmudgeon, Tuesday, 13 December 2022 15:24 (one year ago) link
Really enjoying the Tim Bernardes album and wish I'd heard it in time to nominate it for the EOY poll. I get that it's retro but it's a sound that should never die.
― Chris L, Wednesday, 18 January 2023 13:06 (one year ago) link
Seem to recall his previous album was also very satisfying. And was he in some famous rock group?
― corrs unplugged, Wednesday, 18 January 2023 13:13 (one year ago) link
he's still part of the band (he also founded it), O Terno.they're kinda big in the independent scene, but by no means they're 'famous'
― fpsa, Wednesday, 18 January 2023 15:36 (one year ago) link
https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-latin/pabllo-vittar-baianasystem-brazilian-politics-1234704876/?curator=MediaREDEF
BaianaSystem’s music was in constant dialogue with the country’s zeitgeist. A year after Bolsonaro took office, the band released their sophomore album, O Futuro Não Demora (“The Future Won’t Take Long”). They weren’t strangers to sharing direct, uncompromising messages with their listeners — their first album was full of sharp, stabbing lyrics blended with Afro-Latin tones, a punk rock attitude, and traces of Bahia’s pagodão, a modern percussion-soaked strand of samba. Their second release was even more blunt: In the feverish modern mambo jam “Sulamericano,” French-Colombian artist Manu Chao joins in as Passapusso sings, “Counter-attack, I’m making plans to counter-attack.”
― curmudgeon, Monday, 3 April 2023 00:24 (one year ago) link
Djavan is an old-timer at this point and some of his songs are too busy or too jazz fusiony for me, but I love his ballads and liked some of his songs on his most recent album D. He's starting on his first North American tour in 13 years. Thinking I might go see his suburban DC area gig Friday night
― curmudgeon, Thursday, 20 April 2023 20:58 (one year ago) link
I'm enjoying the new album by Rogê - 'new' but leans heavily on Baden/Vinicius, Jorge Ben, Verocai etc. https://www.waxpoetics.com/article/roge-samba-rock-meets-tommy-brenneck-bespoke-soul/
― giraffe, Wednesday, 17 May 2023 14:34 (eleven months ago) link
great recommendation, thanks!
― corrs unplugged, Wednesday, 17 May 2023 16:13 (eleven months ago) link
will check this out
― budo jeru, Wednesday, 17 May 2023 17:25 (eleven months ago) link
ok, so this fucking rules
― budo jeru, Wednesday, 17 May 2023 17:37 (eleven months ago) link
Fun comp, pretty wild nursery tales sometymes, varied x compatible enough, on Mr. Bongo's Bandcamp: https://f4.bcbits.com/img/a0753925496_16.jpg
― dow, Wednesday, 17 May 2023 18:22 (eleven months ago) link
This week: A special Semipop Life guest post from @BrazilBeat1, so you can get your dirty samba recommendations wholesale without me playing middleman and asking "but how much does this sound like Tom Zé really":https://t.co/b1UfgjEW03 pic.twitter.com/fQU2K3TI1s— bradluen (@bradluen) May 14, 2023
― curmudgeon, Thursday, 18 May 2023 19:32 (eleven months ago) link
Luedji Luna, r&b crooner from Salvador, Bahia
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Omjgry2dYbg
― corrs unplugged, Sunday, 2 July 2023 20:53 (ten months ago) link
Enjoying the most recent Julia Mestre album https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QoWXDh-0As
― giraffe, Tuesday, 26 September 2023 08:20 (seven months ago) link
The album is called Arrepiada and it's lovely.
― giraffe, Tuesday, 26 September 2023 08:21 (seven months ago) link
I'm only coming back to it now, but I still think Marina Sena is fascinating, even in an ocean of autotune. The album is Vicio Inerente.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-RT1BKhL51IOlho no Gato
― Nabozo, Tuesday, 26 September 2023 12:16 (seven months ago) link
Tidal served me up that Rogê album and I'm loving it - those strings!
― Daniel_Rf, Tuesday, 7 November 2023 10:27 (five months ago) link
Roge is doing some US gigs shortly. A one hour free one in DC at Kennedy Center on November 30 at 6pm et that will also be streamed on Kennedy Center YouTube and Facebook ( and archived on YouTube) plus a Los Angeles gig December 5 says Spotify
― curmudgeon, Thursday, 9 November 2023 16:30 (five months ago) link
https://brazilbeatblog.wordpress.com/2023/04/18/2023-part-one/
Romulo Flores who is one of many acts mentioned in this blog , has 2 collaboration releases this year — Na Goela which combines traditional Brazilian with noisy guitar rock & is with Tiago Rosas; and Elefante which is more tuneful Brazilian and is recorded with Rodrigo Campos. The blogger just mentions the noisier one and compares it to a Wire album. I don’t exactly hear Wire on that one
― curmudgeon, Friday, 17 November 2023 21:58 (five months ago) link
Eh typo . Romulo Froes with an accent mark over the o in Froes
― curmudgeon, Friday, 17 November 2023 22:00 (five months ago) link
The one time I went to Brazil we planned on seeing Romulo Froes perform, but our flights there got delayed and we missed the gig.
― curmudgeon, Sunday, 19 November 2023 18:09 (five months ago) link
I still need to listen to more acts mentioned on that Brazilbeat blog
― curmudgeon, Sunday, 26 November 2023 23:43 (five months ago) link
Roge “Curyman” album made the Mojo list and was just nominated for ilx list ballot . Yay!
― curmudgeon, Monday, 11 December 2023 22:13 (four months ago) link
It's in my top 10 for sure!
― budo jeru, Monday, 11 December 2023 22:38 (four months ago) link
thoroughly enjoyable record, my kinda revivalism
― corrs unplugged, Tuesday, 12 December 2023 07:32 (four months ago) link
woop
― giraffe, Tuesday, 12 December 2023 08:17 (four months ago) link
Roge with a drummer doing a 1 hour free show at the Kennedy Center in Washington DC
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPRPM8r_ZNE
― curmudgeon, Tuesday, 12 December 2023 16:57 (four months ago) link
I nominated it! That style of music is so rich and beautiful, it shouldn't need to be revived; and he's really adept at it.
― Chris L, Wednesday, 13 December 2023 01:58 (four months ago) link
he didn't really 'revived' anything, folks. he's a regular guy doing regular MPB by any measure! it's good, but it's weird to see such laurels, idk...
― fpsa, Wednesday, 13 December 2023 02:19 (four months ago) link
otm
― budo jeru, Wednesday, 13 December 2023 04:16 (four months ago) link
not much available in the anglosphere about mpb between the 80's and now tbf, and even some of the brazilian sources I've read don't stray outside that timeframe, boomer hegemony I guess
― Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 13 December 2023 10:30 (four months ago) link
by revivalism I meant that the mpb sound on his album has a "retro" tinge to my ears, just listen to the strings
there's probably a good/boring explanation (apart from the quality of the material) for why this particular record is getting so much exposure
― corrs unplugged, Wednesday, 13 December 2023 10:53 (four months ago) link
I've enjoyed the album but my immediate thought was how close it sounds to Clube da Esquina and how much it relies on arrangements when I rather expect a strong vocal personality and some kind of messing-up with the formula from modern MPB. So my uneducated guess is that it gets exposure from precisely not following the program.
― Nabozo, Wednesday, 13 December 2023 13:09 (four months ago) link
Roge's music definitely harks back to some sort of golden period of MPB/samba, but to me it goes back further than Clube da Esquina. I feel it sounds more like late 60s albums'Travessia' or 'Milton Nascimento'. I hear bits of 60s Caetano and Chico Buarque in there too.
― giraffe, Wednesday, 13 December 2023 13:37 (four months ago) link
Roge album is produced by Thomas Brenneck , best known for playing guitar with retro soul Sharon Jones and producing for Daptone. Plus Arthur Verocai did string arrangements and he’s best known for his 1970s work.
― curmudgeon, Wednesday, 13 December 2023 15:46 (four months ago) link
I'm a dummy when it comes to hearing about recent MPB so I'm just the target for the Roge album crossover, I guess.
― Chris L, Wednesday, 13 December 2023 16:00 (four months ago) link
xp i will admit that that's compelling evidence for calling this a "retro" project, and i certainly don't mind anyone thinking of it that way
but for whatever reason i think of this basically as excellent MPB (so my 'otm' above was really more about the first part of fpsa's post)
― budo jeru, Wednesday, 13 December 2023 16:10 (four months ago) link
Seeing good reviews for film documentary "They Shot the Piano Player" about the life of and disappearance of Brazilian samba/ bossa nova/ jazz pianist Francisco Tenorio Jr on tour in Argentina in 1976 at age 34. Some big name Brazilian musicians are heard in this doc talking about him
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQwajCDIwcg
― curmudgeon, Wednesday, 6 March 2024 16:08 (one month ago) link
yeah, keep meaning to see that
― The Ginger Bakersfield Sound (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 6 March 2024 17:41 (one month ago) link
https://fabianodonascimento.bandcamp.com/album/ohayou
very chill, not too brazilian vibe tbh, might also work in Ambient/post/nu/new-age jazz - S/D
― corrs unplugged, Tuesday, 9 April 2024 06:50 (three weeks ago) link
Yeah, he's amazing, got to see him live last year, played solo with some pedals and loopers and such... really beautiful music...
― m0stly clean (Slowsquatch), Tuesday, 9 April 2024 19:33 (three weeks ago) link