c'mon ILM don't let me down!
― Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 1 July 2008 20:32 (fifteen years ago) link
:(
― Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 1 July 2008 21:59 (fifteen years ago) link
some Os Lobos
― Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 1 July 2008 22:37 (fifteen years ago) link
a fairly stupid Dusted review of Bango
― Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 1 July 2008 22:46 (fifteen years ago) link
hey and a Dusted review of Satwa reissue too
― Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 1 July 2008 22:49 (fifteen years ago) link
I have a Ronnie Von album, I think. It's sunny Tropicaliazed soft rock IIRC.
― Alex in SF, Tuesday, 1 July 2008 22:50 (fifteen years ago) link
Never even heard of the rest of these folks.
― Alex in SF, Tuesday, 1 July 2008 22:51 (fifteen years ago) link
The book "The Brazilian Sound" by Chris McGowan and Ricardo Pessanha is mostly about samba and bossa nova but it says that Ronnie Von used to appear on a Brazilian tv show called Jovem Guarda recorded live in Sao Paulo from 65 to 68. The show was supposedly watched by millions (with girls crying hysterically and boys dancing) and Von they say worked with then rocker Roberto Carlos (later a ballad singer) and Erasmo Carlos to create upbeat, simple Jovem Guarda rock.
― curmudgeon, Tuesday, 1 July 2008 22:52 (fifteen years ago) link
also can someone recommend where to start with Chico Buarque, Jorge Ben, Milton Nascimiento...?
― Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 1 July 2008 22:53 (fifteen years ago) link
Well Clube Da Esquina is where to start for the last one, def.
― Alex in SF, Tuesday, 1 July 2008 22:57 (fifteen years ago) link
Africa Brasil for Jorge Ben, I guess, although I've not heard the two Dusty Groove reissues.
― Alex in SF, Tuesday, 1 July 2008 23:00 (fifteen years ago) link
The Gil/Ben album is fantastic if you don't have that although I believe they have both disowned it haha.
― Alex in SF, Tuesday, 1 July 2008 23:01 (fifteen years ago) link
thx - DLing that Club de Esquina album now, sounds interesting
― Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 1 July 2008 23:09 (fifteen years ago) link
You will be happy.
― Alex in SF, Tuesday, 1 July 2008 23:14 (fifteen years ago) link
thanks for the list of things to get shakey
― PappaWheelie V, Wednesday, 2 July 2008 02:19 (fifteen years ago) link
Satwa was reissued about the same time as Paebiru by Lula Cortes (of Satwa) and Ze Ramalho. I found Paebiru to be the stronger of the two, so I'd recommend checking that out first.
And while Clube Da Esquina seems the obvious recommendation for Milton Nascimento, I think it's the Lo Borges stuff that stands out on that album. I tend to play Borges's A Via Lactea more often, which has some of the same songs - different versions though - and is dreamy as fuck.
― gnarly sceptre, Wednesday, 2 July 2008 09:43 (fifteen years ago) link
you need this http://www.amazon.com/Construcao-Chico-Buarque/dp/B000008AHA
check out the title track. when the strings and horns come in at 2minutes, it's like whoa! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnOAYO8aOrU
― jaxon, Wednesday, 2 July 2008 16:24 (fifteen years ago) link
jaxon that is awesome. Going on my list immediately.
― Alex in SF, Wednesday, 2 July 2008 16:36 (fifteen years ago) link
DLing it now - gracias
― Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 2 July 2008 16:39 (fifteen years ago) link
Marconi Notaro is also affiliated with the Satwa/Ze Ramahlo+Lula Cortes camp. The album that was reissued by Time Lag Records is really outstanding. It's got some tropicalia, some of the acoutstic instrumental drift like you find on the Satwa record, and some crazy out rock moments with a lot of electric guitar and weird effects.
― Trip Maker, Wednesday, 2 July 2008 16:45 (fifteen years ago) link
I haven't listened to the Marconi Notaro yet. I have No Sub Reino Dos Metazoarios.
I really liked what I listened to of the Satwa, lots of 12-string drone-y folk improvisation goodness
― Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 2 July 2008 16:48 (fifteen years ago) link
Which album by Notaro did you pick up? I've only heard No Sub Reino, I think it's great.
― Trip Maker, Wednesday, 2 July 2008 16:50 (fifteen years ago) link
this is easily my favorite of the batch so far
fantastic rhythms all through this thing, no electric anything as near as I can tell (apart from the bass...?) Lots of really propulsive acoustic guitar grooves, great organic vibe to the whole thing.
― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 3 July 2008 15:26 (fifteen years ago) link
re: Chico Buarque's "Construcao" - some really weird, lovely things going on harmonically and melodically on this one, will have to give it a few more listens for it all to sink in.
also listened to the Clube De Esquina, which sounded markedly better and more enveloping on my stereo than it did on my iPod, for some reason. Really great, a very wistful, meandering quality to it that I enjoy. Plus all that reverb = goodness.
thx guys
― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 3 July 2008 16:19 (fifteen years ago) link
christ I'm starting to sound like a DustyGroove sales sheet
Liverpool album is really good - lots of fuzz wah-wah guitar, super-tight rhythm section, schizo song arrangements that shift gears on a dime. easily on a par with other bonafide Tropicalia releases, altho not as wild as Mutantes nor as songwriterly as Gil or Veloso. No Duprat orchestral arrangements either - all two guitars, bass, drums, vocals. great psych-pop.
Manduka album is pretty folky - opening track is a 10-minute long droning acoustic guitar thing, rest of the album maintains a similar rural vibe and pace, fairly mellow altho the hand percussion stuff kicks into high gear towards the end. will probably dump this one from the iPod tho, a bit too aimless in terms of songwriting for my tastes.
― Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 8 July 2008 22:06 (fifteen years ago) link
Did Dusted used to be better, or is that just my imagination?
― James Redd and the Blecchs, Tuesday, 8 July 2008 22:23 (fifteen years ago) link
I admit I have a personal axe to grind against them now, but yeah the last few things I looked up on there recently were pretty uhhhhhh
― Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 8 July 2008 22:25 (fifteen years ago) link
Shakey have you heard this http://numberoneinverdun.blogspot.com/2008/02/fucd008-various-obsession-cd2lp.html? Only about a 1/4 from Brazil (rest from other South American countries and uh Turkey and India.) Really really good stuff.
― Alex in SF, Tuesday, 8 July 2008 22:26 (fifteen years ago) link
I mean that Animal Collective EP review was really waht lameass undergrad navel gazing nonsense
x-post
― Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 8 July 2008 22:26 (fifteen years ago) link
hmm haven't heard of that obsession thing. great cover!
― Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 8 July 2008 22:27 (fifteen years ago) link
also what is this Som Imaginarios referred to on the other Tropicalia threads...?
― Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 8 July 2008 22:30 (fifteen years ago) link
wtf this thread does not turn up in the search engine under "Brazil" BAH
― Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 15 July 2008 17:35 (fifteen years ago) link
it does. did you tab to 'next' in the search results?
― Granny Dainger, Tuesday, 15 July 2008 17:41 (fifteen years ago) link
Ian J0hnson's boss at Accademy put that Obsession comp together. it's pretty fab
― jaxon, Tuesday, 15 July 2008 18:37 (fifteen years ago) link
ooh just got a copy of a nice vinyl reissue of the first all-bossa Caetano Veloso album, haven't listened yet but am excited
― Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 18 July 2008 17:38 (fifteen years ago) link
also what is this Som Imaginarios referred to on the other Tropicalia threads...?-- Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, July 8, 2008 3:30 PM (1 week ago) Bookmark Link
-- Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, July 8, 2008 3:30 PM (1 week ago) Bookmark Link
that recent reissue is totally worth getting. A more americanized sound than a lot of the other acts mentioned on this thread, but there's still some new sounding shit in there. You can probably get it from a blog.
― uh oh I'm having a fantasy, Friday, 18 July 2008 17:44 (fifteen years ago) link
thx - I grabbed a self-titled 1970 album that I was really digging, main standout was this beauty called "Sabado"...?
― Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 18 July 2008 17:49 (fifteen years ago) link
this one
― Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 18 July 2008 17:59 (fifteen years ago) link
yeah that's the one
― uh oh I'm having a fantasy, Friday, 18 July 2008 18:08 (fifteen years ago) link
Sound Factory reminding me a lot of Secos and Molhados (vocals not QUITE as insane tho)
also gots: Som Tres "Toboga" Rubinho e Mauro Assumpcao "Perfeitamenta, Justamente Quando Chegui" (is that "perfect, just the way you are"...?) This one is great, opening track is total country-rock
― Shakey Mo Collier, Saturday, 26 July 2008 17:03 (fifteen years ago) link
got tired of this Sound Factory album real quick. The Assumpcao one is great tho, I highly recommend that one.
― Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 13 August 2008 22:51 (fifteen years ago) link
To ask a kind of OT question, is it characteristic for Brazilian LPs from the sixties to have a sleeve that's basically just a 24" by 12" piece of cardboard folded in half around the record, with the front and back cover images being glued on (no spine, no attachment along the top and bottom)? I bought a copy of Nara Leão's Rogerio Duprat album on eBay and was a little surprised to be getting more of a cloak than a jacket around the record.
― eatandoph, Thursday, 14 August 2008 04:59 (fifteen years ago) link
Rio’s Marcio Local extends the legacies of influences like Jorge Ben and Banda Black Rio, standing at the crossroads of two great traditions in modern Brazilian music, Afro-Brazilian samba and’70’s soul, to create an undeniably cool and funky ode to political change and carioca life
Appearing in NYC in January
― curmudgeon, Wednesday, 26 November 2008 19:41 (fifteen years ago) link
Ronnie Von recorded a psychedelic album during the 60s and is often associated with the Jovem Guarda movement. Nowadays he presents a corny talk show on Brazilian TV. kind of cult trash.
http://www.vinyl.tree.nom.br/ronnievon.gif
― Shin Oliva Suzuki, Wednesday, 26 November 2008 22:00 (fifteen years ago) link
Thurs. 1-8- Rio de Janeiro’s Marcio Local from 6 p.m. to 7p.m. at the Kennedy Center Millennium Stage for free---Local combines R&B, soul, and funk with samba, bossa nova, and other Brazilian sounds, as heard on “Samba sem nenhum problema” on which he celebrates a Rio de Janeiro steeped in Afro-Brazilian traditions, yet constantly devouring and reinventing new sounds and styles.
Also on Thursday January 8th
Garotas Suecas from Sao Paulo Brazil
DJ Neville Chamberlain/Brazilian Rhythms from Washington DC (but he has actually been to Brazil) at 9p.m. at Comet Ping Pong, 5037 Connecticut Ave NW, Comet Ping Pong will be hosting Garotas Suecas, from Sao Paulo Brazil, as they come to Washington, DC on their first ever USA tour. Freakbeat/Tropicalia is alive and well and well in Sao Paulo.
― curmudgeon, Wednesday, 31 December 2008 18:12 (fifteen years ago) link
Can someone tell me about this gnomic looking dude called Sivuca?
http://tbn1.google.com/images?q=tbn:zGrd75VfiwgO0M:http://www.kaufman-center.org/mch/images/artists/masters/hermetopascoal.jpg
― hologram of balls (gnarly sceptre), Friday, 9 January 2009 16:34 (fifteen years ago) link
seen many pictures of that dude, never heard him
I see there is now a deluxe vinyl reissue of that Liverpool album making the rounds
― There was even a brief period when I preferred Sally Forth. (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 9 January 2009 16:57 (fifteen years ago) link
I gather he's famous for both his accordion skills as much as his production. This one in particular sounds great.
― hologram of balls (gnarly sceptre), Friday, 9 January 2009 17:17 (fifteen years ago) link
that's actually hermeto pascoal, who in fairness shares many of sivuca's wizardly attributes
sure this has been posted before but here's a good excuse
― Bangelo, Friday, 9 January 2009 18:02 (fifteen years ago) link
Gah. I did a google image search, and that was the best of the lot. But pretty crazy likeness, aye.
http://bp2.blogger.com/_c8wX6bHrA4A/R8MKT9AmxSI/AAAAAAAAA3Q/JXLirr5pMrU/s1600-h/sivuca+foto2.JPG
― hologram of balls (gnarly sceptre), Friday, 9 January 2009 18:15 (fifteen years ago) link
OMG @ this track
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RrnEsHzAwcA
― Jesus, the Czar of Czars (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 26 October 2009 15:48 (fourteen years ago) link
random youtube find. lovely stuff.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kv3lwGtJPT0
― ship_rex (+ +), Sunday, 23 January 2011 01:04 (thirteen years ago) link
Maucha Adnet & Helio Alves
singer and pianist duo
― curmudgeon, Wednesday, 6 November 2013 17:54 (ten years ago) link
Helio is a really good piano player and Maucha is good too, she sang with Jobim when she was quite young and I believe is now married to the drummer Duduka da Fonseca. Why? Are they playing near you?
― Blecch Dreieinigkeitsmoses (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 6 November 2013 18:20 (ten years ago) link
There is picture of them here: http://www.congahead.com/legacy/On_The_Scene/duduka/duduka.html
― Blecch Dreieinigkeitsmoses (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 6 November 2013 18:27 (ten years ago) link
Thanks. They're gonna be in D.C. at Blues Alley for $25 (plus a drink minimum) on Monday November 11th
― curmudgeon, Wednesday, 6 November 2013 20:01 (ten years ago) link
Think you're gonna go?
― Blecch Dreieinigkeitsmoses (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 7 November 2013 18:58 (ten years ago) link
No, although it sounds like it would be nice show. But I will probably see Jorge Ben at the Howard Theatre on the 16th
― curmudgeon, Thursday, 7 November 2013 19:08 (ten years ago) link
Yeah, you should definitely go see Jorge Ben. I should too.
― Blecch Dreieinigkeitsmoses (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 7 November 2013 19:11 (ten years ago) link
You can always see Maucha and/or Helio and/or Duduka and/or Romero Lubambo at Dizzy's the next time you come to New York.
― The Killer Inside Meme (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 8 November 2013 12:05 (ten years ago) link
Ahh, that's right.
― curmudgeon, Friday, 8 November 2013 14:02 (ten years ago) link
Wouldn't be surprised if you they played in DC reasonably often.
― The Killer Inside Meme (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 8 November 2013 14:25 (ten years ago) link
Could be, and they were just never on my radar. Although,it's Brazilian music month it seems in DC. Blues Alley just had Trio De Paz reviewed here in the W. Post http://www.washingtonpost.com/entertainment/music/at-blues-alley-trio-da-paz-showcases-the-lovely-complexities-of-brazilian-jazz/2013/11/07/61d1e802-4760-11e3-95a9-3f15b5618ba8_story.html
and trumpeter Claudio Roditi is gonna be there as well as Maucha and Helio. The Jorge Ben gig at the Howard is pricey ($65), but I liked him back in 2004 live.
― curmudgeon, Friday, 8 November 2013 16:06 (ten years ago) link
Ha, I meant to mention Nilson.
― The Killer Inside Meme (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 8 November 2013 16:08 (ten years ago) link
I'm just learning who those folks are
― curmudgeon, Friday, 8 November 2013 16:10 (ten years ago) link
There is good Brazilian guitar player with an English name, Richard Miller, who used to live in DC, I think he was getting a PhD in music education, but now he lives here.
― The Killer Inside Meme (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 8 November 2013 16:17 (ten years ago) link
Oh yeah, he used to play everywhere around here
― curmudgeon, Friday, 8 November 2013 16:26 (ten years ago) link
Maybe not everywhere, but I know the name
― curmudgeon, Friday, 8 November 2013 16:27 (ten years ago) link
Boogarins, from Brazil, where in the 1960’s psychedelia was also tropicalia, with its rebellious underpinnings. They had the sweet melodic convolutions of tropicalia, some playfully unconventional meters and, at times, some of the modal hypnosis of San Francisco bands like the Jefferson Airplane
Jon Pareles in NY Times blog re group doing a free 8 pm Monday/tonight in-store at Other Music in NYC; and playing in Brooklyn Tuesday
― curmudgeon, Monday, 24 March 2014 19:29 (ten years ago) link
bump
― curmudgeon, Tuesday, 25 March 2014 19:13 (ten years ago) link
Juçara Marçal of the 80s Vanguarda Paulista has a pretty interesting album Encarnado out. The parts I've heard bit like Sonic Youth playing MPB:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xdu6uwpbJZs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjyACV-faHs
― Felt up by Adam Smith's invisible hand (Sanpaku), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 18:48 (nine years ago) link
So, Brazilian records ca. 1969-73 are filled with amazing "sunshine pop", Free Design style harmonies, for example this soap opera soundtrack:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppmrjMgoRG0
And this:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GfSMsBiarz4
I can't find any evidence of a direct influence, but intriguingly, the Azymuth guys turn out to be session players on two albums by "Projecto 3" (which is of course a Portuguese version of the name of Enoch Light's label). Surely a coincidence? The title track seems to me to have been ripped of by Tortoise on 'the Bridge at Iguazu Falls', maybe that title is a hint:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2obLyHq3gbE
― Adoration of the Mogwai (Deflatormouse), Tuesday, 23 February 2021 06:20 (three years ago) link
Brazilian soap opera soundtracks from the 70's often function as great samplers of quality tracks from the era.
― Daniel_Rf, Tuesday, 23 February 2021 15:42 (three years ago) link
Julio Medaglia > Rogerio Duprat
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wN0t4axPcKg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxJTsk5fO_I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OIh7DNI0BT8
That last one is completely nuts
― Adoration of the Mogwai (Deflatormouse), Tuesday, 11 May 2021 20:36 (two years ago) link