Dido - c/d?

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Simon Amstell on Popworld described her as 'the easy listening witch'.

I don't think she's either C or D. Perhaps there should be a category for stuff that isn't good enough to be classic or offensive enough to be marked dud, stuff that just makes no impact either way. A third way: bland.

Frou Frou = Dido's younger, slightly more adventurous sister.

― Alfie (Alfie), Friday, 6 February 2004 11:38 (twenty years ago) link

literally?

― stevem (blueski), Friday, 6 February 2004 11:45 (twenty years ago) link

hahahaha! a girl i'd like to meet.

― Enrique (Enrique), Friday, 6 February 2004 11:46 (twenty years ago) link

No, no - the girl out of Frou Frou is called Imogen Heap - if she were Dido's sister then she'd be called Rubdowns Himalaya Lushest Batman Armstrong.

― Alfie (Alfie), Friday, 6 February 2004 11:49 (twenty years ago) link

ok i like dido hehe even if u dont haha

― Emma williams (Emma williams), Friday, 6 February 2004 21:33 (twenty years ago) link

of course the best thing about dido is her brother being heir to the albanian throne...

it must be true pete told me, eh matt?

― CarsmileSteve (CarsmileSteve), Friday, 6 February 2004 21:40 (twenty years ago) link

She's okay, wouldn't buy her albums, doesn't anger me in any shape or form. I find Jamie Callum and this new jazz singer thing to be way more irksome.

― jel -- (jel), Friday, 6 February 2004 22:16 (twenty years ago) link

How about JOSS STONE????

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 6 February 2004 22:18 (twenty years ago) link

The video with blubbery Boreanz is classic because I find it hysterically funny that she's supposed to be pining over this hobo-looking schlump.

― El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Friday, 6 February 2004 22:18 (twenty years ago) link

Haha Nicole, I am now imagining Dido singing "Rosa Parks"!

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 6 February 2004 22:19 (twenty years ago) link

That Dido video with Angle is like the second best video of all time, it works on so many levels. I saw Joss Stone's video today, but the sound was turned off.

― jel -- (jel), Friday, 6 February 2004 22:22 (twenty years ago) link

The best video of all time being that Dru Hill one about a fire, it's pretty sad :(

― jel -- (jel), Friday, 6 February 2004 22:24 (twenty years ago) link

http://www.totallydavidboreanazuk.com/MiscPics/Dido/Dido-006.jpg

Hobo!

― El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Friday, 6 February 2004 22:27 (twenty years ago) link

he's so stylish!

― jel -- (jel), Friday, 6 February 2004 22:34 (twenty years ago) link

I haven't been drinking.

― jel -- (jel), Friday, 6 February 2004 22:43 (twenty years ago) link

I quite like Dido except for that song 'I Want to Be a Hunter Again' because it makes her sound sexually predatory.

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Saturday, 7 February 2004 12:21 (twenty years ago) link

She makes Everything But the Girl sound like Throbbing Gristle.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 7 February 2004 12:25 (twenty years ago) link

I remember that there was a double bill of her and Travis that packed out a local arena near here. Insomniacs were the audience, I guess.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 7 February 2004 16:17 (twenty years ago) link

I'm a sometime insomniac and there's no way in hell I'd go unless there was a chance of a stage invasion!

― Barima (Barima), Saturday, 7 February 2004 19:54 (twenty years ago) link

I kinda liked the Insomniacs but why would they be at a Travisido show?

― jel -- (jel), Saturday, 7 February 2004 20:00 (twenty years ago) link

Well, they had this one good single on Estrus.

― jel -- (jel), Saturday, 7 February 2004 20:01 (twenty years ago) link

My wife is quite keen on her singles....which thus receive a worrying amount of airplay Chez in NYC....much to my grumblingly restrained chagrin.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 7 February 2004 22:35 (twenty years ago) link

hey that pic of Angel looks kinda like Alex!

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Saturday, 7 February 2004 22:39 (twenty years ago) link

he's wearing a hat and everything!

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Saturday, 7 February 2004 22:39 (twenty years ago) link

I woudl never wear a hat like that.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 7 February 2004 22:42 (twenty years ago) link

Perhaps you should.

― El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Sunday, 8 February 2004 03:40 (twenty years ago) link

What PJ Miller said.

― N. (nickdastoor), Sunday, 8 February 2004 03:53 (twenty years ago) link

Enrique likes his music like he likes his cocks.

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Dido is great and bless her little funny way when she goes in and out of falsetto, and she sounds so dumb when she goes "the tea's gone cold i'm wondering why-aye-aye" i want to give her a hug.

― ken c (ken c), Sunday, 8 February 2004 11:27 (twenty years ago) link

who knew she was a Tyne lass?

― stevem (blueski), Sunday, 8 February 2004 11:58 (twenty years ago) link

was she ever in Byker Grove?

― jel -- (jel), Sunday, 8 February 2004 12:48 (twenty years ago) link

Enrique likes his music like he likes his cocks.

STEP OFF while you still have legs, muthafuck.

― Enrique (Enrique), Monday, 9 February 2004 09:50 (twenty years ago) link

Dido is the Phil Collins of bland pop songs, but with tits. And more hair.

― C J (C J), Monday, 9 February 2004 09:58 (twenty years ago) link

I'd say Phil Collins is bigger chested.

― MikeyG (MikeyG), Monday, 9 February 2004 10:12 (twenty years ago) link

From my 'experience' of working in a big rec shop, as many men as "chardonnay-swilling chick-lit fans" buy Dido albs.

― Andrew L (Andrew L), Monday, 9 February 2004 10:15 (twenty years ago) link

I bought 'No Angel' -- for my mum.

― Enrique (Enrique), Monday, 9 February 2004 10:17 (twenty years ago) link

but copied it before giving it her, natch

― chris (chris), Monday, 9 February 2004 10:18 (twenty years ago) link

Not that men can't be "chardonnay-swilling Chick-lit" fans, obv

― Andrew L (Andrew L), Monday, 9 February 2004 10:36 (twenty years ago) link

Alang to thread!

― Pete (Pete), Monday, 9 February 2004 11:06 (twenty years ago) link

A dido thread really fits on ile.

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Monday, 9 February 2004 11:08 (twenty years ago) link

I think music threads are starting up here since ILM has big unwieldy warning signs like on a 15-year-old boy's bedroom door at wanking hour.

― Enrique (Enrique), Monday, 9 February 2004 11:09 (twenty years ago) link

no there is always an odd music thread started here bcz some ppl are 'scared'. I'm not too surprised that barry 'hardman' lasagne started it.

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Monday, 9 February 2004 11:11 (twenty years ago) link

If you look at the thread it's not strictly a music thread, it came about from an argumenent that Internet hardman Barry lasagne had in the pub based around Dido that questioned the assumptions you can make about a person if you have limited knopwledge of them ie "they like the new Dido album"

― chris (chris), Monday, 9 February 2004 11:17 (twenty years ago) link

Julio, ppl are right to be scared, it's a fucking freak-fest out there on ILM.

― Enrique (Enrique), Monday, 9 February 2004 11:24 (twenty years ago) link

ooga booga

― stevem (blueski), Monday, 9 February 2004 11:25 (twenty years ago) link

I was thinking about this over the weekend and was wondering whether, if you mapped all the chart-friendly female singers, Dido would appear in the middle, the bland spot. I don't know what to label the axes but here's the idea:

http://ilxor.petfield.com/images/bland_graph.gif

― Alfie (Alfie), Monday, 9 February 2004 11:32 (twenty years ago) link

Interesting... where does Ms Dynamite fit on that?

― Enrique (Enrique), Monday, 9 February 2004 11:37 (twenty years ago) link

Are you including the jazz-lite laydeez on this graph, then? Where does Amy ~~Nelly Furtado~~ Winehouse sit on this bitch?

― Liz :x (Liz :x), Monday, 9 February 2004 11:41 (twenty years ago) link

Katie Melua should be on the opposite side, between Dido and Eva. I'd add Delta Goodrem just above Amy Studt and to the right. I guess POP is the top left corner, AOR the top right, jazz the low right and YOR the low left?

― stevem (blueski), Monday, 9 February 2004 11:44 (twenty years ago) link

Winehouse would probably be below Norah Jones but nearer Frou Frou?

― stevem (blueski), Monday, 9 February 2004 11:46 (twenty years ago) link

Julio, Chris is OTM, but for what it's worth I'd be very tempted to start a music thread on ILE because a) most of the people I like and respect are on here and b) I'm sure anything and everything that could possibly be said about an artist has already been said on ILM and I'd rather avoid either crushing condescension or a series of snippy "look at this thread" answers.

― Markelby (Mark C), Monday, 9 February 2004 11:47 (twenty years ago) link

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According to SFJ's artickle in the NYT, Timbo is remixing 'White Flag'.

― Phenrique (Enrique), Monday, 9 February 2004 17:01 (twenty years ago) link

"gorgeous", haha.

― Markelby (Mark C), Monday, 9 February 2004 17:02 (twenty years ago) link

END TIMES

― stevem (blueski), Monday, 9 February 2004 17:03 (twenty years ago) link

Sash gets lotsa love on ILM. I can't say that article has won me over. But I suppose NYT pays a bit better than VV, so hey...

― Enrique (Enrique), Monday, 9 February 2004 17:04 (twenty years ago) link

haha i thought at first Enribaland said "a great record can knock any DIAPHRAGMS out of shape"!!

― ken c (ken c), Monday, 9 February 2004 17:14 (twenty years ago) link

but only for 3 minutes

― ken c (ken c), Monday, 9 February 2004 17:21 (twenty years ago) link

Further to the reference to Jo Whiley's changing taste in music, doesn't most peoples? Or do DJs owe it to their fans to keep playing the same old shit (yes, Lamacq, I'm talking about you)? Anyway, I always thought Whiley's music choice was pretty mainstream, except for her attempts to be into whatever the current NME/MM trend was (this generally lasted as long as the inkies said it was OK). Which is kind of indie mainstream I guess. Her current enthusiasm for the Darkness seems no stranger than her past enthusiasm for, say, Menswear.

Mind you, I don't like Missy Elliott, so I know jack shit about real music apparently.

― ailsa (ailsa), Monday, 9 February 2004 18:39 (twenty years ago) link

I heard 'White Flag' again this morning. I think the 'bland' analysis is inadequate: while the music is bland, the lyrical content isn't exactly; ver 'do is often alluding to non-bland type behaviour (in 'White Flag' she's left hella 'mess and destruction' and advises against living by 'the rules'; she claims that her life is 'for rent'; she wants to be 'a hunter' -- do you see?). But the music is all bland, yes. It's a dichotomy thang.

― Enrique (Enrique), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 14:23 (twenty years ago) link

Is there an easy definition of bland music. Ie more harmonics, clasical chord progressions, being in tune, not too loud. I wonder if you were to play Dido really loudly (the non-bland extreme being its loudness) if it would sound better.

I think White Flag was a triffic single, and Life For Rent speaks directly (perhaps a touch too cynically) to the late tewnties renting masses in London.

― Pete (Pete), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 14:27 (twenty years ago) link

N. is v OTM above.

― Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 14:28 (twenty years ago) link

i've listened to some of the new Zero 7 album and it's likely to attract the same 'blandness' criticism as Dido's material, although i would point out that musically 'When It Falls' is somewhere between Dido and Air, leaning towards the latter in terms of sophisticated musical and melodic arrangements albeit with only sporadic flirtations with sonic psychedelia, surrealism and similar concepts but featuring a much more pedestrian approach to actual songwriting ala Dido.

― stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 14:30 (twenty years ago) link

I think Pete's right about 'White Flag'. The blandness is a relative thing: Dido's first LP is sorta trip-hoppy (it was recorded in what? 1998) but with the ruff edges taken out. On 'Stan' the ruffness was actually added, the Portishead record hiss, etc. I dunno abt this LP, it seems less 'trip hop'.

Not sure about the 'late twenties' renting etcness -- esp coming from financially secure Dido! But I feel yr pain.

― ENRQ (Enrique), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 14:33 (twenty years ago) link

Bland - definition = UB40s "Swing Low Sweet Chariot". Everything about it is designed not to cause offence - everything mid-tempo, mid-pitch, nothing standing out, vaguely in keeping with the pereception of what the people who buy records want to hear.

― Markelby (Mark C), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 16:04 (twenty years ago) link

what does 'Life For Rent' mean anyway?

― stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 17:22 (twenty years ago) link

BIG PIMPIN

― Enrique (Enrique), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 17:23 (twenty years ago) link

I hear her a lot on R2. I don't think I like her records much. But I don't hate them either; hate can be reserved for other things.

I have heard her... 'speaking voice' and been turned off.

I think Markelby's question is good.

― the bellefox, Wednesday, 11 February 2004 17:27 (twenty years ago) link

I'd be more annoyed by Coldplay, nobody treats Dido as some form of high culture/spiritual experience. I dislike the way Dido slating is so often an outlet for a sort of hatred of women, not here really but in music discussions more generally.

― Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 22:12 (twenty years ago) link

damn their high heels/standards

― stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 22:14 (twenty years ago) link

Someone upthread said Dido had covered 'Grindin''. I said: Any cop? Now i'm thinking they were trying to get a rise outta me. Is it true? Did she really? Ma, it don't get more coffee table than this.

― ENRK (Enrique), Monday, 16 February 2004 11:19 (twenty years ago) link

Dido : Fading 35 y/o women
50 Cent : 16 y/o suburban boys.

The identity, problems, struggles of fantasy false self. [/pop-psych bs]

― Hunter (Hunter), Monday, 16 February 2004 19:52 (twenty years ago) link

twelve years pass...

"thank you" is 100% CLASSIC

― flappy bird, Thursday, 25 August 2016 05:04 (seven years ago) link

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